THE SHINING - KUBRICK'S GOLD STORY pt1 film analysis by Rob Ager
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This movie is like a riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma.
Son of Tiamat Or not? Kubrick made The Shining as an elaborate piece of entertainment. His most simple film though he ads ambiguity, because ambiguity is interesting. Everybody who had worked with Kubrick on the film, particularly Jan Harlan, have stated that these fan theories are fun but also hilarious. Harlan does however seem to deeply dislike "Room 237" which is inarguably so dumb it's an insult to Kubrick's legacy.
Son of Tiamat Ha ha . China 😀
Hahahhahaha
The movie? No
The Easter eggs/meta visuals? Yes
...inside a conundrum!
Goddammit, I never thought The Shining could get 10 times scarier than it already was. This is awesome as all fuck. THANK YOU.
Maybe this is coincidence, and i don't think I've heard this mentioned before, but Jack using a $20 could tie back into the native Indian genocide themes. The president that is on the twenty is Andrew Jackson, whose administration passed the Indian removal act. Which also led to "Trail of Tears".
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Double Meaning
Andrew Jackson was also known to be admittedly apposed to centralized banking Wich is exactly what the federal reserve is only with Fiat currency
I think we should be careful with saying Andrew Jackson was anti federal banking. The Anti-Masonic party in the US in the 19th century was filled with masons. Just controlled opposition doing its work.
I remember what it was now, the Anti-Masonic party actually opposed Andrew Jackson. So who were the real masons? Jackson? Or the Anti-Masonic party? Dum dum dum.
Regarding Jackson being on the 20: Also Danny was Jack's son. Jackson ... ???
@@imetmikemo182 Andrew Jackson was the ONLY PRESIDENT WHO BALANCED THE NATIONAL BUDGET !!! Payment of US national debt
On January 1, 1835, president Andrew Jackson paid off the entire national debt, the only time in U.S. history that has been accomplished. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_public_debt
The first assassination attempt on a US President was on Jackson. It is believed that a banker encourage an insane painter ( who hired the painter shortly before the attempt ) to kill Jackson. On January 30, 1835, what is believed to be the first attempt to kill a sitting president of the United States occurred just outside the United States Capitol. When Jackson was leaving through the East Portico after the funeral of South Carolina Representative Warren R. Davis, Richard Lawrence, an unemployed house painter from England, aimed a pistol at Jackson, which misfired. Lawrence then pulled out a second pistol, which also misfired. Historians believe the humid weather contributed to the double misfiring.[259] Jackson, infuriated, attacked Lawrence with his cane. Others present, including Davy Crockett, restrained and disarmed Lawrence.[260]
Lawrence offered a variety of explanations for the attempted shooting. He blamed Jackson for the loss of his job. He claimed that with the president dead, "money would be more plenty," (a reference to Jackson's struggle with the Bank of the United States) and that he "could not rise until the President fell." Finally, Lawrence told his interrogators that he was a deposed English king-specifically, Richard III, dead since 1485-and that Jackson was his clerk.[261] He was deemed insane and was institutionalized.[262]
Afterwards, the pistols were tested and retested. Each time they performed perfectly. Many believed that Jackson had been protected by the same Providence that also protected their young nation. The incident became a part of Jacksonian mythos. Jackson initially suspected that a number of his political enemies might have orchestrated the attempt on his life. His suspicions were never proven en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson#Attack_and_assassination_attempt
The meaning of the Shining is deep! Even though a spooky movie, it is a treasure trove. The meaning of this movie is like the gift that keeps giving.
Yeah all the witchcraft bs and future events .
Or alternatively, fans keep returning to 'The Shining', over-analysing it, and finding things that never in fact occurred to Stanley Kubrick or his co-writer Diane Johnson even once!
There's no question around 99% of 'Shining' theories endlessly debated online, have precisely nothing to do with the movie made in 1980. It's simply a reflection of the great piece of entertainment 'The Shining' is, that it has inspired so much passionate discussion.
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Man, this IS an old upload, CZcams hasn't had a star rating in about a decade
...and still no one comes close to disecting movies as well as Robbo does!
maybe it was superimposed
Today's directors only make a movie with one color let's say color blue, and the whole movie is blue, Kubrick made movies of many colors so you would chose what color you want to paint his movie. There are many layers and colors in Kubrick's movies that he makes you go back and watch it again and again.
Exactly; look at Doctor Sleep - blue, blue blue which is why I haven't watched it only the trailers; I'll wait to that fad ends.
Your Kubrick videos are outstanding
The photo of Jack, his hand positions, resemble that of Baphomet.
Who’s that?
@@michellemckillop8935 a pagan deity associated with the knights Templar
@@WarpCOm61 and what did they believe?
It’s not his hands. His head was superimposed onto another mans body.
as above so below as well; Freemasons
“One thing that Kubrick wasn’t worried about was the ending - or any of the film - making strictly literal sense, even though his lack of story and production continuity sometimes confused crew members (and eventually spawned a myriad of Shining conspiracy theories).” - Diane Johnson, screenwriter.
When Jack is talking to Grady in the storeroom, he is framed with a box of Golden Rey pimiento peppers directly in front of his head. I have to think that brand - Golden Rey - was deliberately chosen to take up center frame with Jack because it's a glaring allusion to the gold themes you've presented here. The spelling of the name is notable ; instead of it being spelled Golden Ray - which English speakers might identify with beams of light / the sun - it's spelled Golden Rey - "rey" being the Spanish word for king. Both of these spellings are meaningful. As you've discussed in your other Shining analyses, bright light (as in golden ray) is a symbol of the shining itself, or characters coming into conflict with their psychological traumas, just as Jack is doing by confronting Grady in the storeroom and plotting to kill his family. The spelling Golden rey, on the other hand, puts a giant label "Golden King" right next to Jack's face, identifying the two as related and tying together other symbols of Jack's association with royalty: the Colorado Lounge is Jack's throne room where only he decides who enters and who doesn't, in the Lounge he sits at a chair with a carving of the sun at the crown of it, he is care-taking an establishment that is described as having hosted "four presidents, lots of movie stars,...all the best people", he lazes about while his subjects (Danny and Wendy) do his work for him, he is associated with eagles and flags throughout the film - a symbol of state authority - and he generally behaves as if he is entitled to every action he performs throughout the film, regardless of the suffering it causes others. I'll stop this comment here, but it's curious stuff to consider. Thanks for a great video!
Where im from piemento peppers are mostly used by the descendants from african slaves.. i thought when i saw it its the "storyroom" for some of americas darker secrets they want to lock away..
When Jack is wearing the tux in the live footage, to me it says that Kubrick also filmed Jack in his tux in the ballroom, for scenes we'll never see, and probably used him with live actors to stage a photo, which he never used. Sometimes I think about the way Kubrick made films, which is impossible these days..(considering taking six weeks off to think about Barry Lyndon in the middle of filming....sending Ken Adam off on wild goose chases, having actors do dozens of takes, but never telling them what he wants, and changing his mind when sets were completed, etc) was, to use a simple metaphor, "getting away with murder." He didn't have to answer to a producer, as his contract with Warner put him in that seat also.
Interesting
This post, unlike most hypotheticals about 'The Shining', actually makes sense - Kubrick was meticulous, and the ballroom party image/reveal of Jack Torrance at the Overlook Hotel dated July 4th 1921 is the film's final, central plot-shock.
I feel there's little doubt Kubrick would have set up that critical party 'tableux' live on the ballroom set at Elstree, and filmed and photographed it with Nicholson and extras in period costume - as well as doing the 'cut and paste', photo-shopped version of Nicholson added to a genuine, vintage b&w photo that wound up in the movie.
It's now 42 years since 'The Shining' was released. With every passing year there is another theory about the 1980 movie - and fewer original cast and crew members alive to confirm/deny, or provide authentic details! Central to that is surely Stanley Kubrick's co-writer Diane Johnson, who at time of posting, July 2020, is still alive aged 88. If she is still mentally sharp, it would be fantastic to see/read a full interview with her, talking about her partnership and working practices with Kubrick.
this is real great rob!
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I’m sorry Call of Duty ruined your life.
Jack Nicolson in the pic has his hands imitating the baphomet , devil goat head picture
Good thing God and the Devil are fake
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@@e8iMm7KE999 lol
@@Krooksbane don't act like a pussy about it tho.
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My friend told me about this video and I was like ‘YES! The “your money isn’t good here” bit!’ I couldn’t believe someone else had the same gold standard theory as me.
The Gold Room is also found in the Pentagon. It is at the heart of the area where the Joint Chiefs of Staff meet and plan many clandestine ops..
How do you know they happen if they're clandestine?
the whole movie is a allegory for americas society and history, which in itself is riddled with aspects.
@Fnord Fnordington This is what George Carlin talked about in this 3:14 video clip. CLINK THIS LINKGeorge Carlin - The big club czcams.com/video/cKUaqFzZLxU/video.html
I think it can also be applied to the elite for the desire for a one world government. A plan which is still in play today !!! “History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes,” as Mark Twain is often reputed to have said.
@@e8iMm7KE999 "the elite for the desire for a one world government" What? Go outside.
all this created by a man who also created eyes wide shut. a true genius.
rob, your videos and essays are always a delight. i do hope you know how grateful we are. keep it up.
Truly captivating journalism. I'm reading the analysis. It's making me feel like I'm not very smart because of how much symbolism I would have never given a second thought.
"Apart from Nosferatu at the front.." Comedy gold!
I THINK that the Gold Room as a symbol of Jack's alcoholism (the whisky has golden color), The Torrance's life in the hotel being kind of a theatrical version of their real life. A barroom being a golden place for Jack to escape his family life responsibilities, remember the two times he goes to the Gold Room are after arguing with Wendy, each time his visions get more elaborate (more ghosts). So the bar is a place where Jack lets his unconscious run on the loose (Kubrick particularly likes bathrooms for that purpose).
It’s a reference to a small gold boat packed inside a slightly larger boat inside a slightly larger golden shiip
In the 70s. It was sold as but a small ship get 2 boats free.
This happened on Indian reservations
What's amazing is that the photo you mention, and the photos all around it, is that they are NOT there in the beginning of the film. Only later do they appear. Just like so many other things in this movie. They are there, and then they aren't. One other video here did a close in on those photographs on that wall. As Wendy wheels in Jack's breakfast shortly after they arrive at The Overlook, the video zoomed in on those photos, and it's remarkable: none of them there at the beginning are there at the end - with this famous one being the standout of what wasn't there early but reappeared late.
The bathroom in 237 is primarily green with gold trim - the dollar and its once nod to gold. The naked woman is the lure of easy money and her transformation is what comes next
I have to hand it to you Rob, this is a great analysis. Great research, and very informative. Thanks for sharing this with us. This piece is "Solid Gold" mate!
always in the mood for a Kubrick story ,well done .
I'll be damned. The guy at the one o'clock position from Jack's face looks exactly like Nikola Tesla.
+stvbrsn With such poor quality picture anyone can like anyone. There are few notable differences even in this version, the hairline is different and so are the eye brows. When you look at the full quality picture it becomes painfully apparent they are two different persons.
+stvbrsn Indeed.
Could be plausible. The mansion in the filming is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. Tesla did his energy experiments in Colorado Springs & Telluride CO
Didn't Tesla say that time travel was possible?
@George Hennen Yes. Born: July 10, 1856. Died: January 7, 1943.
Pretty good video Rob. When we take into consideration that the Stanley Kubrick had a highly genius IQ, it does two things. First it shows us how Kubrick was able to create parallel stories within the same film and second, he could make it that much harder to figure out all the different stories Kubrick was adding, or explaining to us the audience... I've noticed a couple different things, with the rest coming from folks online that share their versions of what this movie was about. Perhaps Kubrick's ability to direct a film, while adding parallel subjects, which could include it's dialog were what made him, ''The Best Film Director''
After the making of 2001, Kubrick spent pretty much the remainder of his life staying at his estate in England. Although nothing in any great detail has been said about the reason behind it, especially by his family, (that I have found), for whatever reason, Stanly Kubrick felt that it would be better, perhaps even safer for him and his family to stay on the grounds. Kubrick had people working for him that would go out and get the information he needed/wanted. Kubrick had it done for The Shining and for Eyes Wide Shut. That I have read about but it's also safe to say that Kubrick had personnel do this for Full Metal Jacket. Because I haven't found any articles yet pertaining to FMJ, I was left guessing that Kubrick had the same thing done for the movie, as he did with the other two listed....
His hands are posed like the baphomet in the photo. 'As above so below'
Deaf2Demands stop commenting on YT vids, dummy.
It's a pre-existing photo. Watch the darn video
Jack’s arm pose inside this picture symbolizes the pose for the meaning “as above, so below!”
As above, so below can mean that whatever a person does on Earth will be reflected in the spiritual plane, or that whatever happens in nature or the stars is reflected within the human body. This phrase finds its roots in Hermeticism and the Emerald Tablet.
The first scene of the movie shining shows the reflection of the small island 🏝 in the water which is another symbol for “As above, so below” and the last scene of the movie shining shows the Jack’s arm gesture that symbolizes “as above, so below”
That's not Robert Redford with Bette Davis and that's not James Mason. Why make such an obviously incorrect claim?
antonio ortiz he's an attention seeking idiot
I really liked the movie when i first watched it in college. I enjoyed every minute of the film, but when my eyes were glued to the agonizing crawl to the photo at the end was when i fell in love with it.
I love how at the 8 minute mark you take the time to call the dead guy ugly and weird looking.
The identification of the people in the photograph was hilarious. Too much projection on the film. Also the dialogue of jack and the bartender is all from Stephen King's book. ALL OF IT. Even with "two twenties and two tens" and empty wallet. So try another theory.
I currently own your full version of this analysis and I must say it’s fantastic, and completely relevant to today’s world! Great work Rob! If you’ve only watched the CZcams version, do yourself a favor and purchase Collative Learning’s full video! It’s worth the price honestly!
The final photograph reminds me of the typical masonic imagery of one hand pointing up, one pointing down.
He could also just be waving
Definitely a great video, fabulous analysis. I always enjoy your work.
It always blows me away that they built all of these massive sets, and then tore it all down, just for this movie. Its pretty crazy. The interiors were modelled after a Hotel in Yosemite National Park, called Ahwahnee Hotel, while the exterior based on Timberline Lodge near Mt. Hood. But none of the actor scenes were filmed there they instead built exact replicas in England.
Your Film Analysises are Very Informative and Insightful!!!!
I'm sure I'm not the 1st or only one to point this out , but - Nicholson is doing the "So above as below" sign with his arms pointing up and down .
I have now watched Rob's FULL analysis of this topic, via his website store. It goes very, very deep; in fact too deep for my intellect! - but it was well worth the purchase.
The name of the movie ---- "The Shining" could also be a hint. Danny Torrance shines, Dick Halloran shines and gold shines
Not a bad thought, but remember, the gold room wasn't in the novel, nor was anything to really do with gold.
Jack is doing baphomet pose in final pic (as above, so below)
Oh, Christ, we *know* already, Oh, wise and mighty one...
the neck length of the man in the original photo in place of jack is extraordinary. he also appears to have a flap of loose skin around his nose area. turn the image upside down and he looks far from human. there are many other strange and bizarre looking characters in the greater photo. we as humans, are not alone.
At 6:37 you say the man in the picture with Bette Davis might be Robert Redford. I think that's unlikely since the man looks close to her in age, whereas Davis is almost 30 years Redford's senior. Maybe it's Dan Duryea?
lf l was clueless, and l didn't know anything at all about the book or the movie, and judging by the movie poster alone, l'd be apt to think that it was a sci-fi film, because the face of the figure that appears looks very....alienesque. Or perhaps it's just me.
CrashN2Me1000 I personally believe it represents the Id
Referring to apollo 11
It looks like a fetus or an alien.
@@PanfishingJournal Yeah... to me it looks like the Starchild at the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey
WOW. An "Austrian School" economics lesson in a video about The Shining. Never would have imagined that.
What do you mean by "Austrian School"?
No mention of the Baphomet hand pose
Oh, what the-fuck ever
What do you mean? Please explain
@@zarreff Nicholson is giving a Masonic/occult hand signal with his arms pointing up and down . The satanic goat , baphomet makes the same "So above as below" gesture .
@@Krooksbane At least your open minded .
Yeah , I was waiting for someone to catch that
Jack's hands in the picture resemble the baphomet statue
I think The Shining is the most important thing of all. Having ESP and supernatural powers are the true meaning of the movie. How afraid would the powers that be if we had these abilities?
It isn't consistent, though. You might know if your kid is hurt or something, but it's often more like subconsciously putting pieces together...
And for the record, you certainly can't charge for it if you knew something vital to someone's life. Mostly, it's just total BS.
Kind of reminds me of Barry Lyndon's Epilogue (which was the previous Kubrick film): "It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now."
Rob Ager logic: It must be mentioned that Kubrick is an avid enthusiast for bricks, since the word "brick" is displayed in the name "Kubrick."
@Hulagan 808
I'm struck by the fact that Kubrick's name is just one letter different than Au brick.
The man sitting with Bette Davis looks like her husband Arthur Farnsworth who "fell down the stairs" and died two months later from a blood clot. The rumor was that BD killed him. It was odd.
Monica Murphy definitely!!
That;s so obviously not Robert Redford (he would have been a child in that era), it made me wonder about the rest of the information.
That looks like Bette Davis. But a youngish Davis, not the old witch she would have been if that was Redford sitting there. Idiot yourself.
It´s definitively not James Mason in the picture. The woman could be Jane Wyman.
"Apart from Nosferatu at the front..."
Lmao, that killed me.
I'm always sceptical of yet another viewpoint of this movie, but at the same time I love that these analyses exist on CZcams, great fun. And this guy may be bang on, who knows?
Rob missed that the Gold Standard was decided upon at the Mount Washington Hotel in New Hampshire. It's in the film for a reason but *woosh* went right over Rob's head!
bump
The man in the picture frame with Betty Davis is Franchot Tone, an American actor in the 1930s.
This video is just nuts.
More importantly her lover. And the igniting cause of her feud with Joan Crawford since she stole him from Bette.
Jack and the barman’s conversation is very interesting. The barman says Jack need not worry about who’s buying his drinks, “at least not at this point“. Kubrick is basically saying non-gold backed dollars are now worthless and the game of musical chairs will end at some point.
The first time Jack buys a drink from Lloyd he has no money in his wallet..... He has to ask for credit.
The second time he gives Lloyd a twenty, that he didn't have before.
White mans burden Lloyd, white mans burden
It is a dialogue from Stephen King's book. There was no improvisation there.
I don't get why people think there has to be ONE meaning in The Shining, and any Kubrick film for that matter. Undoubtedly, they have double, if not triple, meanings. Mk Ultra, genocide, Apollo landing involvement; they're all in The Shining.
My only question is: what is "The Shining?"
Rob isn't suggesting there is one meaning. He has made videos galore on various hidden themes in the film, all of which co exist in the movie.
You know, the whole Jack picture looks like a collage - as if all of them were cutouts and a picture assembled.
The bald man's bow tie is also different than the bow tie jack is wearing. It looks like they may have swapped entire upper torsos.
Man in the picture, third row on the right, behind Jack's shoulder. The man with the deep set eyes and moustache....NICOLA TESSLA!
Tesla made several appearances with the 'Elite' of the period of the 1920's. It was Tesla's electrical inventions that made wide scale electrical transmission possible. He was indeed and Archetype inventor/scientist of that period.
Very plausible. Tesla was a tall man, allegedly 6'6", and in that photo, I can see it passing for him.
Now, here is the tie-in with gold and the gold theme hidden by Kubrick:
For every unit of GDP, no mater what measurement units are used, for every unit of GDP produced, a commensurate unit of ENERGY must be produced and consumed.
ENERGY = GDP = Wealth
The mansion was filmed at the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. Tesla moved to Colorado Springs to do most of his energy experiments.
But the energy has already been produced, when the gold itself was forged in a super nova, wouldn't you say? @@Trapster99
@@davidlean1060 Ah no, you have totally missed the point. One could say that all the elements above hydrogen were forged within a star. However, in order to get gold bars, one must first mine the gold, refine the gold, then smelt the gold into bars. Ever see what a large scale mining operation looks like, the energy they use is immense.
7:52 Nice burn on that "nobody" in the photo that Nicholson replaced 🔥🔥🔥😂
yeah that's Robert Redford alright, a notable contemporary of Betty Davis. And here we have a photo of Humphrey Bogart and Gina Davis...
that's not a picture of James Mason either... hard to continue with this video under the premise you know what you're talking about if you can't get even those two things right
I also noticed while watching the film that the woman wearing a gold dress that passes by Jack and knocks over the waiter's tray on him when he's in his Gold Room fantasy has a red hand print on her butt. I don't remember if that was covered, Rob Ager. Any thoughts?
I saw that too. At first I thought maybe the lady's underwear was showing through her dress but after reading your comment I looked again and it IS a hand print. I'm wondering if this is a reference to the movie version of Stephen King's novel "Carrie". I've only seen the edited-for-TV version of "Carrie" but there's a scene in which Carrie, who in the school locker room/shower gets her monthly cycle for the first time and doesn't know what is happening and becomes hysterical, has blood on her hand and puts her hand on the white pant leg of Miss Desjardin the gym teacher. A scene or two later, and this I saw, Miss Desjardin is walking around in the school principal's office after the traumatic scene in the shower and the bloody hand print can be seen on the white fabric. Maybe the hand print in "The Shining" is a reference to "Carrie"?
Surely it just means “REDBUM…REDBUM”
@@videonomy 😂
Gold shines as is "Shining" as well as glitters, so does Jack Nicholson's smile. This interesting theory is a bit early Post-Modern/PaUL iS DeAd from Sgt Pepper's
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I doubt that Kubrick did this on purpose. It's more a set of uncanny and meaningful coincidences that could only happen in a work by someone like Kubrick. My point is that Kubrick's work keeps unfolding as decades are passing... Still, there's a clear direction to this unfolding: it teaches us focus, rigor and a critical, and not purely emotional, approach towards just about anything that surrounds us.
If Stanley were to have told anyone what this movie was about, it'd be the biggest case of 'the emperor has no clothes' that we've ever seen. This movie is so simple to understand: What we all see is a combo of the man's story, as it's written, and the family slowly being more and more affected by isolation, and they're doing so, in an environment where a lot of terrible acts had been committed, which are weighing on the mental aspect to those that visit the hotel, ESPECIALLY in small numbers.
-Franklin Knight Lane (President's Wilson Secretary of the Interior, he is standing directly behind William B. Wilson)
-Jack's face has been airbrushed over the face of young Second Federal Reserve Governor Edmund Platt. He was in the original photo, but they airbrushed Jack's face on his face. So in the original photo it's actually Edmund Platt we see at first.
Now we know for sure that a lot of politicians that appear on the 1921 final image are airbrushed into the picture by Stanley. This is because Franklin passed away on May 18 1921 and the photo clearly has the date the 4th of July 1921. So that is actually a mistake by Stanley. Franklin couldn't have possibly been on that picture because he passed away months before the picture was taken in the Ball Room. So it's safe to assume Stanley airbrushed some politicians of the Wilson era in the final 1921 picture. It is also worth noting that the photo is actually from 1923 but photoshopped and changed to 1921 because most of the politicians left office in 1921.
Hi Rob. Really enjoy your videos. Have you or anyone else noticed the design of the bar in the Gold Room. It looks very like the portico of the Federal Reserve HQ
James Mason appears @ 11:13 in the video dressed in his costume from the filming of another Stephen King's work; Salem's Lot
Hey Rob, I re-watched to see if I could find any other clues, and I immediately noticed the similarity between the bar and the Fed in DC. Take a look: i.imgur.com/RuHNh6S.jpg I don't think you mentioned it, but it looks like a match to me. Notice the square windows on the Fed and how the style was used on the the bars around each mirror, as well as the mirrors extending the space, making it look very similar to the 4 columns of the Fed's entrance. Great videos, thanks for making them! PS. The Board of Governors (of the Fed) is a federal agency with 7 members, and there are 6 chairs at the bar, with Jack standing in place of the oddly missing 7th chair.
Spencer S That's interesting
I don't see it
Interesting idea but I think ur missin the point also of the gold room. Gold is reflective and gold leaf paint/tiling creates mirrored effect besides the bar is one giant room of mirrors. Jack also had his lil anger tantrum outbursts with every mirror He walked passed going into the gold room. Mirrors here are the true reflection of oneself and innate nature, no masks, no hiding
The guy in the old crowd photo looks like Joel Grey ("Cabaret").
It really does! I was just about to point that out.
I agree they look alike but it could not be him for he was born after or around the time the photo would have been taken.
Amazing job! You nailed it
10:10 why is jack in that Baphomet pose?
You are awesome... And you deserve a lot more likes and views than this :)
Federal reserve was finalized at Jekyll island. I was there and made a video. Nice place.
People completely ignore the fact that Kubrick was a New York Jew. As such was privy to information that is unavailable to many. Rob Ager's makes some valid points. Kubrick and Oliver Stone - another NY Jew- have made some amazingly multi-layered films that hit at a deeper darker reality than people are capable of accepting.
when was redum actually written on the door? it's out of place in a "timeline".
Why does nobody every bring up the fact that Jack's depiction in that black and white photograph perfectly matches the hand gestures of the Baphomet???
I love the fake moon landing theory and this also makes a lot of sense too.. there is so much to The Shining I feel we have barely scratched the surface... There is also the the theory of the Titanic NOT being an accident too, which is super interesting as this ties in with the Fed Reserve and bankers.
You have done the best coverage of that last photo. They sound like the people that took out the Titanic so they can start their federal reserve and other nefarious ways.
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The corporation called the US was created in 1871 and the private Federal Reserve bank (a direct copy of the Bank of England) in 1913; following their representatives (e.g. Jp Morgan, Warburg etc) secret meeting on Jeckyl island, Georgia, in 1910. Several US presidents like Andrew Jackson tried to stop the fed being created as at this time the US was..... debt free .....!!!
There had been several attempts to get the private centralised banks in place. The President, Directors and Company, of the Bank of the United States, commonly known as the First Bank of the United States, Philadelphia: was a national bank, chartered for a term of twenty years, by the United States Congress on February 25, 1791. Some say the American revolution was to be free of the banks (1812). This was started by the “British”, at Rotchilds instruction of course, after the US govt under James Madison refused to renew the banking charter for the First Bank of the United States.
As stated JP Morgan did have a hand in the creation of the Federal Reserve, and his organisation also owned the International Mercantile Marine, which owned the White Star Line, which owned the Titanic...
Ps It is well known that Benjamin Guggenheim, Isa Strauss (actual name Isidor Straus), and David Astor were three wealthy anti federal reserve men who died on the Titanic. Coincidences ?
When the Titanic sank on April 15, 1912, several well-known millionaires were counted among the 1,503 dead. “Noted Men on the Lost Titanic,” announced a New York Times headline: “Col. Jacob Astor, with His Wife; Isidor Straus and Wife, and Benj. Guggenheim Abroad.” Obituaries followed for Astor, the New York builder of hotels and skyscrapers; Straus, a banker and owner of Macy’s department store; and Guggenheim, a builder of mining machinery.
But one of the world’s richest men had avoided his fate.
J. Pierpont Morgan “had thought earlier in the year to return to America on the ill-fated Titanic,” The Washington Post reported on April 19. “Then Mr. Morgan decided to lengthen his stay abroad.”
I have been looking for this specific analysis. I believe it was this video that got me into filmmaking!
Also seems like he's making the as above so below sign.
It’s A New Years Eve ball photograph. Where Jack Nicholson’ is doing the as above so below body pose.
And here I thought credit meant his soul😏
It does.
I've heard, read and watched so many theories about Kubrick's movies that, some times, I think he would be amazed by those.
I'm sorry, I mean "by them"
If anything, considering how hard he tried to make his films leave a lasting legacy, he'd probably be very flattered.
Or laugh
amazed that someone had worked his themes out. No disrespect to you personally, but it baffles me why non artistic people have trouble accepting artists hide themes in their otherwise entertaining works. That is what artists do!!!
Also, Jacks arms in the picture are positioned exactly as the Baphomet which is a symbol used repeatedly right up to this day in media , especially the music industry.
I saw that too.
As above, so below. I noticed that too.
The exact thing I thought, just needs the two finger peace sign.
Saw that too. According to the narrator only his head was superimposed on the body so it was the original person in the pose. Good eye.
nonsense
Jacks pose in the picture reminds me of the baphomet demons pose. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
The sequel to this film was The Shinning directed by Benny Hill. It tells the story of the Shin Kickers of Mississippi who wondered the streets kicking peoples shins until they bled to death or had a stroke or massive fit. Eventually they were all arrested and had their legs amputated by the government that then displayed the amputated limbs in Didsbury Town Hall. Any citizen can visit this display and kick the shins of the shin kickers, this is called Shinning, hence the name of the film, The Shinning.
I have heard so many theories behind the Shining and it's hidden messages. Some people claim it has hidden messages about the moon landings, some people say it's a metaphor for the massacre of the native Americans and/or the European Jews, and now you're claiming it might be symbolic of the national reserve. I think Kubrick would be proud of all the confusion and debate. It's pretty much why he made so much effort to make his movies slightly disturbing, incoherent and ambiguous, he knew full well that it would allow his movies to be studied and talked over long after they were made and long after his own death, thus giving his movies and himself an air of immortality. Although I am starting to think what I originally thought when I first saw the Shining, that it's just creepy movie made by an eccentric man with no real meaning beyond trying to freak it's audience out. Like a fun house at a fair, it has no consistency or meaning, it's just a bizarre show which is used to confuse, creep out and fascinate people for entertainment purposes and nothing else.
slimithy12 There is a lot of very strong evidence for the Native American genocide theme - I've talked about that before in other videos. And there's also a lot of evidence for the monetary history / Fed theme too. A film can be multilayered in its meaning instead of having a single theme that rules out all others. At the end of the day it's about evidence. The many different interpretations have to be compared in terms of available evidence. Some are more evident than others.
Rob Ager I'm a little late to the party, but just wanted to give my two cents. You said, "At the end of the day it's about evidence.". Evidence is interpretation of data, which cannot interpret itself. Evidence is interpreted by what you already believe, your pre-beliefs...your presuppositions. It seems as though, you presuppose the existence of these themes in the movie and then seek "evidence". The only way to justify your interpretation of the movie is to know what Kubrick thought, which of course, we cannot, but it's fun to imagine I guess. It's human nature to want to know the unknown.
slimithy12 he had an IQ of 200 or somewhere about there. His movies are kind of like.... how do I put it? Like a huge ball of tangled string. The string symbolizing the human experience and our ego. Super ego. And ID. ( the holy trinity ). It's kind of like a bible or a cannon of ancient myth. The cause and effect of the dark side of OUR ( human ) story..... there are all sorts of kind of parables in his movies. The HORROR of incest. Rape. Blood lust. Denying another human or many. The right to be human. Stealing hurting. All in the name of ego.
But that's just a few layers.
People are really F*CKING UGLY.... we do really warped things. In the name of what ever we deem correct. Even tho it might not be.....
Muffin Man
...which is a fairly standard criticism
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3rd guy from Jack's left looks like he's puffin the biggest reefer of the 1920s
Not that this has anything to do with the movie, but reefer wouldn't of been illegal in the 1920's. It was, in fact, used by the Navy, for example. The ropes attached to navy ships used hemp rope. I'm sure you know the story behind it's banning, it was centred around the production of paper.
@@davidlean1060 It was very popular with the public, in fact.
@@windowsmizu416 We forget that now that it still, by and large, outlawed. It shows the power of a good propaganda campaign!
VERY interesting.
That certainly isn't Robert Redford with Bette Davis. He's an actor ftom the 40's and 50's. And that is not James Mason, either, in the other photo.
thanks for the new info Rob! Your videos are consistently engaging and well researched. I would love to see a Blue Velvet analysis from you.
Robert Redford is almost 30 years younger than Bette Davis; it aint him...
That's an older Betty Davies, but you're probably right.
Rob Ager Funny, I see a younger Bette Davis....Anyway, I think it might be her 2nd husband Arthur Farnsworth - a couple of pictures of the two of them in this link www.cowhampshireblog.com/2007/02/14/a-valentines-day-story-new-hampshires-bette-davis-connection/
Rob Ager I think the man is Lyle Talbot.
Looking at the watermarked photo of Davis and Farnsworth, second from the top in the link I posted, I'm absolutely convinced it's him in the Kubrick photo.
WernieBinters O.K. It does look like Farnsworth.
I don't know, it all seems like a stretch. There are so many theories on what Kubrick did with The Shining... they cannot all be right. At the end of the day, he was still just a man, he had to get the movie done, and I just cannot imagine that on top of the complexities of making a movie in the first place, that he went to these extraordinary measures to hide these obscure messages into the movie. I do believe that he did mix some things into it, but perhaps not anywhere near the elaborate messages that some believe. Someone should do an experiment, where they pick a conspiracy theory, then a famous movie, both at random, and then try to find hidden messages in the movie to back up the theory. I would guess you would find enough to make it seem eerie, yet to also know its coincidence.