What Boomers Got Wrong | Konstantin Kisin
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2024
- In this clip, John and Konstantin discuss the generational divide and the shared responsibility for our future.
Raised in the Soviet Union, Konstantin is not persuaded by leftist visions of utopia, and exhorts reasonable people to speak out against the 'woke mob'. He also argues that multiculturalism should be rebranded as multi-ethnic societies with a 'monoculture', uniting everyone from different backgrounds.
Konstantin Kisin is a writer, social commentator, comedian, and co-host of the free speech podcast Triggernometry. He is a regular on British and American TV and radio shows including Question Time, Good Morning Britain, BBC Breakfast, Daily Politics, LBC Cross Question, Tucker Carlson, the Megyn Kelly Show, and many others.
Konstantin has written for publications including the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator, Tablet Magazine, Quillette, and Standpoint as well as his first book, An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West. More recently, he spoke at the inaugural Alliance for Responsible Citizenship Conference in London, England.
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Unsurprisingly, a culture of not being accountable, not being honest and not being authentic is going sideways.
Without wasting time to watch this video, let me state this much.
All discussions on what is going on in native-English nations are downright shallow. For, no one seems to be knowing what is entering into English nations.
There is no way to convey very vital information to the native-English folks, because the Internet is controlled by the non-English folks. They will not allow information to filter in.
All discussions and debates on what in the offing for English nations are done on a platform of very little information.
"I know you don't like hearing this but it is the truth"; "I know this is going to hurt now but we cannot continue to spend our grandchildren's inheritance"; "we need better leaders" & "if politicians were willing to be honest with the public I actually think they would get a lot more support than they think they would" - we once had a leader like that here in Britain, her name was Margaret Thatcher!
Human-caused climate change is the greatest intergenerational theft.
Thatcher and Reagan seemingly thought they had won, but the usual human flaws are constant.
@@nunyabidness3075 Yes you have a very good point, the lessons were learned but only it seems for one generation.
Said no one who wasn't already privileged ever...?
@@Jonathan-Sund Why would you even say that? What’s the point? And, who in the US or UK isn’t privileged by world standards?
It's worse than you stated. We're not spending our grandchildren's inheritance, we're spending their income! They are forced to work off our recklessness.
It's the same mentality as those who won't allow children to fail. Everybody gets a participation trophy so what's the point of striving to do better.
its awful when you read on reddit - so many people are always looking for excuses for behaviour or choosing one person to blame (usually not their gender or race or class group) and then pushing away all responsibility. To them, it is virtuous, but it is damaging and every teacher can see the result of it every day
The ball started rolling downhill in the 1960's to 1990's, and that was when the silent generation was mainly in control, de-industrialization, globalism, entitlements and the nanny state were things that came about in that era. Things have only gotten worse with each new generation. To blame one generation is ludicrous, there are good and bad in each of them.
I was born in 1961 and spent my life advocating and voting for smaller government. It is a losing battle, and I do put blame on my generation for the mess that was passed down. It will be interesting to see how things go in Argentina, as Melei is trying to do what needs to be done all over the world.
But it's the boomer generation that adopted absolutely insane ideology and forces it on everyone else - Obama, Mayorkas, Gascon, and hordes of other loonie politicians, CEOs of Blackrock, AmEx and other corporations, etc. etc. - sorry, but I how can we NOT blame boomers?
Never a lender or borrower be.
That beautiful red wall is so fabulous
What fantastic insight.
Yes! Inflation has destroyed our housing, and employment market.
Parents and grandparents need to pay it forward families need to pull together help each other
That happens naturally when the older generations die. But, of course, this whole narrative is constructed to justify the government taking the wealth from the family. It's soooo obvious.
The younger generation reach our for solutions that will only make the problems worse! I agree with this statement
The get-rich-quick mentality. Delayed gratification comes with age and experience.
@@davey1602No. I spent my life working hard, scrimping and saving. Now at 69 I reap the rewards.
@@davey1602 And quick-fix, instant everything.
In America the politicians who make the policies are owned, part and parcel, by the lobbyists. Follow the money.
One key thing was the statement, "...the younger generation understanding history in a contextualized way." This is not happening today with our youth. They do not read. They do not care to think of the perspectives of previous generations, and what context was happening to affect that generation. This causes our young people to not think critically or analyze information. Most do not have a grid to understand a time frame of history. Lincoln might as well of lived 50 years ago to them.
Been saying this for years, its all starting to come out now, and im very happy to have thought this already 😊
No one is believable. Sstruth.
Most politicians only have self interest today.
well stand up yourself
According to younger geniwr got everything wrong. Just as we can blame former generations for the world wars and the economic and environmental damage these caused. We can blame anyone and everybody except ourselves and so change nothing.
John and KK - listening to the two of you speak rationally and accurately about the present challenges and conflicts convinces me that the two of you should be in politics with your analysis and ideas for sound governance
I'm constantly surprised that nobody in government seems to mention the interest paid on national debt. In 2023 it was over 100 billion...the country gets nothing for that and has to pay those kinds of numbers year after year until the debt is reduced.
We’ve been robbed lol
Yeah not sure why the lol unless it's a...
😂😂😂...😂😢...😢😢😢😢
I think everyone voted to rob their neighbors and the future so they could enjoy themselves, at least since the inception of our Federal Reserve and the direct election of Senator if not prior.
Having joined the Common Market in the early 70’s, weakness was a key pre-requisite for selection of all MP’s and leaders. The UK became ‘Treasure Island’ to what later became the EU and was neutered in all aspects of policy. The result is the economic and political bankruptcy of today.
The Boomer professors who denied Western Civilization when they were taught in in college, became professors and set to deny their students the option of turning against Western Civilization by refusing to teach it to them and proselytizing for the ideology of servitude.
Of course, it started long before the Boomers got to college.
"The passionate endeavors to eliminate the classical studies from the curriculum of the liberal education and thus virtually to destroy its very character were one of the major manifestations of the revival of the servile ideology."
--Mises, Ludwig von, The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality, 1956
It's not about when you're born, it's about an infection of an ideology that infected the West when boomers were in diapers.
01 and 08 were directional changes for the global economy and the voters have been bailing themselves out ever since, it has been predicted for at least 30 years but what happens next, is anyone's guess.
100% right that's when things started to Wylie coyote off the cliff
The West is done.
Well, the UK is at least. At least Netherlands, Poland and France seem to be shifting in the right direction, albeit slowly.
We in the UK have become a weak impotent version of our former selves.
I have little to no hope it will change, especially with Kier Starmer all but guaranteed the next election win.
There is SO MUCH knowledge and warnings about the future packed into the 284 pages of Geroge Orwell's famous novel, 1984, that explains present day politics and social environment that it should be required for high school for graduation with a repeat requirement for college graduation.
We have the PPC here in Canada with a great platform and they cannot get traction !! Forget the Party - forget the leader, you have to start with a sane paltform
PPC are the reason we have Trudeau. Last election I calculated 25 seats that were split and therefore lost.
John and I, both mid era boomers, think a lot alike, and somewhat surprisingly, like Konstantin as well, so, like today, I'm often pleased to "share" there postings and voice; shared ✔ :)
ThankQ
The simple fact is that every single millennial and zoomer would have done exactly the same thing as the boomers if they were alive at the same time in the same place. The vast, vast majority of people all do the same thing. Work to get some cash, find a place to invest it and to maximise their returns. We all play by the rules of the game dictated by the times we are playing in. But that is ok. In another generation when the next generations come, they will look at the millennials and zoomers and lay the same blame at their feet, and they will say something along the lines of "we tried our best, we were just trying to get ahead".
100%
So many initiatives are being introduced that demand elimination of any personal responsibility for individual decisions:
Two quick examples: 1) Abortions and abortion pills. And, 2) Transfer of Student Debt from individual student debtor to the taxpayer.
Those who are inconvenienced by not thinking clearly before acting, learn to make better decisions because of the cost.
Those who are not made to be responsible for their own questionable decisions can be expected to go on happily making more bad choices, and leaving the consequences for others to fix.
The flaw with Kisin's reasoning is this: Yes, most families understand that bad months require sacrifices in the following months. However, politicians frame the sacrifices as the other party taking something away from you.
"I understand we had a bad year, are in a war, etc. - but I still want my 'free' healthcare, food stamps, solar panel subsidies, etc. etc."
"See, the other party is trying to take away your rights to healthcare, food, and clean air."
This framing will be our downfall.
Leaders will never stand up and tell you what the real problem is because the person they're running against will offer simple easy solutions and he will get voted in. We got the government we deserve. And it's due 2 the nature of the Beast.
Javier Millei won as an independent in Argentina with this exact message. He then proceeded to tell the people there wasn't any money, no revolt or riots just follow the prescription given and get out of the mess.
@@eliwhitley1878 Have they got out of there mess ?
@@royboy4571inflation was 120% and it’s been a few months
@@royboy4571 they almost have to be honest. He absolutely BUTCHERED the government, cut it down to size, and their deficit has been shrinking precipitously already.
Might have to move to Argentina at this rate. The UK is f--ked.
@@eliwhitley1878
True, but how long does he have before the people will simply vote for the next politician promising free handouts? The problems in Argentina (and the West) were caused by decades of mismanagement. I doubt people will give him one term to fix it.
a) sunset negative gearing and other tax incentives for dwellings
b) limit ownership of dwellings to one per vote
c) end foriegn ownership of dwellings
d) buy back foriegn owned farms
e) limit land transactions for non residents to lease only no purchase right
f) restart local manufacturing
g) invest in applied science
e) end spending on social science, the arts and philosophy, it is the privilege of the wealthy to waste their lives on unproductivity
implement legislation that makes it easy to repel legislation or expire it
The laws of economics are like the laws if physics and gravity.
If you dont have the money, that means you can't afford it and aren't meant to have it.
I used to have this conversation regularly with me daughter when she was in her 20s. Usually a few days before payday when she wanted me to lend her money.
Weak leadership follows the crowd and internalizes its woke ideologies.
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...
I am really opposed to collectivism. Talk about individuals and I will listen.
Talk all you like.... nothing changes
Wrong: Democracy will always be both sides making endless joy ride promises -- evermore freedom, liberty, and prosperity -- and hiding the unpleasant fact that the joy ride has real costs. Tell the people they can't all be on the joy ride? Good luck.
Nihilism has taken root and growing. All ages, all groups, minus the the sociopathic global elites.
nihilism and paralysis. We have created a world where essentially you can do NOTHING because anything you implement will harm a "protected group". It looks like nihilism, but it's a form social paralysis where you can do nothing to save society.
C0V1D has made it a lot worse
The leadership is certainly not “weak” towards people. We’ve all been through the covid time. Perhaps what you refer is that politicians are weak in the face of donors. And the donor class is getting smaller and more influential.
The leadership through covid was incredibly weak and incompetent in most countries
Yes!
100% Konstantin.
Hence, like is said in the US Army
Make your people smart.
Western Boomers overall dropped the ball by refusing to accept their responsibilities of maintaining Western greatness. Although some maintained reason, far too many exist past the threshold for Western society to tolerate their mainly emotional, leisure class attitudes.
The failures all seem to intersect on the point of always taking the low road, and cutting corners, particularly as they got older, and somehow valuing this as virtuous. This set in as a culture of character weakness which is now spiraling out of control.
Rock musicians and movie stars replaced great thinkers and philosophers. Left wingers began to worship the state, and right wingers developed a collective 'messiah complex'. Far too few took the mantle of responsibility and sacrifice to maintain Western greatness earned after two costly World Wars and the Cold War, and now the world is at the brink yet again.
Leaders. Not a generation. Boomers had no more say over idiotic policies than Zoomers do now. In fact, they have voted consistently against many of the idiotic policies implemented by Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Cameron, and those before and after them.
Well said.
It's easy to prove look how things devolved in the 60s , and 70s when boomers took over 5:07
However, one thing is being ignored, something that may have no solution. It is Feminism and the feminization of the West. With the pill, the entire social structure based on family was broken.
Women intrinsically cannot compete (on average) with men in the job market. Women, therefore, pushed (out of necessity) for a big government socialist society where merit was considered a patriarchal idea. Without support directly from a husband they needed government to directly pay them and create quotas for jobs.
The is no way you can maintain Western greatness while simultaneously having Feminism and without Feminism women simply can't compete with men. Women would become ghettoized and unable to support themselves on average. This too would be a disaster for Western Civilization. Is there a solution?
The entire financial system is based on debt. If the government is debt free it matters very little in the grand scheme as the banking sector is creating it non-stop through lending. There is your currency debasement and there is your inflation in asset prices, particularly housing, and the cost of living in general. The more houses go up, the more people have to borrow, the more money is pumped into the system, the more houses go up, etc........ While asset holders have done particularly well out of this the middle class have not as wages have not increased with the rate of inflation over the decades, in fact the cost of living and wages have truly become untethered. I'm amazed that people still believe high wage demands lead to inflation. I wonder as to who these overpaid employees are in the Australian economy that led to the price of a house near me increase by a million dollars in seven years....
Strong men bring good times. Weak men bring terrible times.
Weak leadership is bringing us disasters and will continue to do so.
Bear in mind in UK higher rate tax was 80% then70% during 70s80s Lol
Mr. Kisin is always good, but leadership isn't the problem, democracy is. The People have shown they will consistently vote for those who promise government money. The result is disastrous. "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury." - Alexander Tytler or Alexis de Tocqueville
Anyone who receives welfare, subsidies, bailouts, contracts, or paychecks from any public entity should lose his right to vote in that entity's elections.
Congress, senators, are the one who don't know how to balance the check book not boomers😮
Kevin07 who blew our savings IS a boomer. Anthony Albanese
And someone elected each and every one of them.
90% of Congress and Senate are boomers.
@@user-cl4rh1sg7g Oh really.
In 2008 the Aust Government kept us out of recession.
But how about the great cash splash job keeper paid to business, instead of directly to workers.
You'll find a tonne of waste there.
Oh and a labour government sought policies in the 2019 election to reduce wealth concessions like capital gains tax, negative gearing and excessive franking credits.
The Morrisson government ran a great scare campaign, and the Australia public fell for it.
Get over you Labour bashing. They are generally the lesser of the two evils.
And what about the ones who keep voting them in?
Boomers.
Perhaps repeatedly bailing out the banks leads people to embrace marxism?
That was wrong, but it was not to blame for marxism.
Fast forward a generation and the title will be "What Gen X Got Wrong", and a generation after that "What Millennials Got Wrong"
I’m a “baby boomer”. I hope my children love me enough to forgive me after I’m gone and, when sooner or later, they come to terms with what my generation has done.
3:47 Kisin endorses Milei for emperor of the Anglosphere.
I don't think that you can blame the boomers collectively, overall they worked hard and created a lot of wealth. They also voted as best they could, given the choices that were on offer. But all the politicians betrayed them, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron etc. It came to a head with Brexit, and even then the political class were absolutely determined to do the opposite of what the people had voted for. It just became more and more transparent the total contempt political class had for the people all along.
Mid to late boomers (1955 - 1965) are called Generation Jones.
Why is that?
@@privatenoone8911 "keeping up with the Jones's"?
@@1258-Eckhart OK, thanks. I googled it.....maybe explains my younger brother (b.1958) a bit.
Not exactly, the last year for Boomer is 1964. 1965 is the first year for Gen-X. Also, it's only the Boomers born 1959/60 to 1964 "some" people want to call Generation Jones. I was born in 1964 so I get it. The childhoods of people born in the early 1960s wasn't the same as Boomers and a bit different from Gen-Xers too. But I HATE that stoopid fookin' name "Generation Jones" 🤮🤮🤮 it sounds so contrived and something about it feels smug, IDK. Couldn't they have come up with something better? Gen-X sounds so cool! 😆😆 I want to know whose idea the name was. 🤦🏼♀️ I had debates about how my mom and I are both Boomers but the generations are so different I never felt like a Boomer. But I can't stand the name Generation Jones -- so I won't use it! I'll just latch onto Gen-X because that's what I thought I was back in the day. 🤷🏼♀️
@@beckinfidelis3916 Sympathies - not easy being the 'runt' of the litter. 🫤
The destabilization process is working as planned.
I’m okay with boomers or any older generations increasing or having elevated levels of government spending. Just as long as they don’t artificially suppress rates while doing so. I am young and I am an avid saver. I want return on my hard work and not for it to be eaten away via negative real interest rates.
Honest, wise and sensible leadership does not exist because such politicians would have been voted outed long before they could implement their ideas. The state of most democracies is a reflection of the values and (unrealistic) expectations of voters.
A state budget is nothing like a household budget. What a silly comparison
Took me a bit to learn this too
Was Menzies a leader ? - he led Australia nowhere. He had everything, yet did not do anything.
Just as bad as the Australian bomb
Hey we are lucky in Oz - we have strong leaders - look at Airbus Albo... or doormat Dave Pocock...
Somebody voted these idiots into office and it wasn’t just because they were the only options we had.
It is not the boomers fault. It is generations that were handed a very easy way of life handed that ideology down to their children that over time gradually developed an entitled attitude. Subsequently they voted for politicians that were telling what they wanted to hear. There were times in the past that boomers could see what was happening but did not have the political clout to change the course. Late 90s the US had a budget surplus boomers had the political clout then. With the changing political discourse of the American voter the end of 2004 began the fall from grace. Universities were on their way to indoctrination institutions. With entitlement generations such as millennials and Gen X now gaining voter empowerment boomer influence starts to wane and is no longer a factor. You also must consider in the late 70s technology in manufacturing provided for a more semi-skilled work force. Manufacturing equipment became computerized and did not require skilled labor to produce goods.
I know many young fellows because they have an ordinary job, (not a career ) don't have a wife ,partner ,friend ,wealthy parents or parents who could sacrifice inheritance, personal lifestyle ,medical issues, whatever, who can never own their own home if this system of ignorance continues in the upper echelons of our society. So much for the lucky country while we also bring in more mouths to feed and house and please don't talk about the skills they will bring in with them! Australia the sucker!
So true. Thank god AOC and Ilhan Omar are year to fix things.
What is "intergenerational theft"?
A generation that the government over spends I.e mass debt that won't be paid back for generations
Therefore high taxing people who haven't even been born yet to pay for a generation that wants or needs the money now to maintain the lifestyle of the time.
Inheritance tax I expect.
The spurious claim that future generations will have to pay for the Government debts levels of today.
Think about though, we had some of the highest debts in Australia after WW2, but surprisingly the boomers grew up and flourished in the 50?60/70s when taxes were high, welfare and economic growth.
These two are just blaming the government spending, when its the influence on the government by the 1% to introduce Neo-Liberal policies that have actually increased inequality to some of the highest levels for 100 years.
@@BenGmanUk Taxing rich dead people, so the loafers who would have inherited, actually have to achieve on merit.
🤔 Australia does not have inheritance tax. Still not sure what they're on about?
Hey John, do you think we should change the title of our leader to "Priminister" since everyone says it says like that anyway? Ha ha ha!
"I work hard so I should be entitled to run up credit card debt and shouldn't have to pay it back after retirement..." OK Boomer
Boomers have left a bad deal for young people.
young people will get what they vote for
Boomers and wisdom might not be wrong. It sounds like a scam.
Don’t blame the boomers. They lived is a different era. The challenges and advantages were very different. Many of the current problems are caused by current governments deliberately increasing Australia’s population whirl not updating the underlying infrastructure. Real Estate is more expensive. Buildings are lower standard (eg Mascot Towers) because there are too many people in Sydney and building Inspectors have been privatised. Developers and Inspectors need to be liable for their corrupt procedures. John Howard and Tony Abbott are too blame for the problems related to privatisation of Airports and Building Inspectors. Gladys Berejiklian and Andrew Constance gave us overly expensive and useless reforms to Sydney Public Transport, and Linkt Tollways. Their shareholders did well, Sydneysiders were ripped off.
yes blame them. Have you seen the age of our politicians. They are all boomers.
At leart our new giovt in new zealand see this
I don't agree, we have the leaders that we deserves. It is up to the electorate to choose the competent leaders. Until people take responsibility of their action, nothing will change. STOP BLAMING PHONES, SOCIAL MEDIA, ETC. Use your F$%^K brain and common sense
Boomers were the luckiest generation in history, and now they are destroying everything.
No, they aren't. The leaders of the last 75 years did that. Not the generations that grew up under them, entirely powerless - just like Zoomers..
complete nonsense
@JamesClark-cg1qk Says a boomer. 😄
The most degenerate, narcissistic, greedy and evil generation I'd say. They won't be missed.
Ploppity plopstain
Talking about things boomers got wrong, what was your reason for getting us involved in Afghanistan and Iraq? I hope you deeply regret your involvement in that decision. Especially regarding Afghanistan since Australia has had a longstanding connection, historically, with the Afghanis going back before Federation (for non Australians reading the comments here John was Deputy PM from 1999 - 2005 and part of the cabinet that sent Australia to war in the Middle East during those years)
Please. Every generation now on the street has benefited from drunken government spending…and no generation has done SFA to regulate or slow the spending- quite the contrary….And it is the younger generation that have actively participated and advocated in favour of the destruction of the post-secondary education. Boomers are just like everyone else. They are not a movement- they’re just ordinary people who individually get up in the morning and make the best choices and trade offs faced with whatever situation they face.
How long do the senior home set think the young are going to tolerate being taxed to pay for foreigners to care for them?
Boo,hoo,ho😂
Not long. People in senior homes don’t have such a great life expectancy. In few years they will be all fine and then you can show the world what you can do.
COME ON REFORM UK AND TRUMP 2024👍🇬🇪🇬🇧👌!!!
No debt is not the best youth poliocy you can have if you have cut back on education for example, Quite a few other things handicap the next generation like not building enough affordable homes, This stubborn Right wing view that you can sit in a house with the roof blown off not repaired because it would mean debt be proud be proud of your achievement .. But in reality it is just about not wanting to pay the tax neaded for the seesentials so you have that new car every three years and more than one good holiday maybe four ,,,That is screwing the next generation ,
SO todays woes is my fault, a boomers fault - cheers for that.
Baby Boomers....never has a generation inherited so much yet bequeathed so little.
And yet..... they have housed their kids in style, fed them well, provided them with entertainment and given them the best education available. Terrible aye.
you must be f****** kidding every electronic device in your household for starters is by the Boomers , phones , led tv. silicon chips. space travel ,cheap air flights, jet aircraft, cars that go for 20 years, not to mention the longest healthiest richest most peaceful period in any part of human history 80 years you're welcome! By the way I have three children approaching their 40s they are all wealthier than I am now and we are all blue collar
Do you think boomers won't die and leave their wealth to their children? Maybe that's your personal predicament. But not the majority's.
actually the next generation after the "boomers" will inherit more wealth than ever
@@alfvanderhulst8489 Click your heels and come back to Kansas Dorothy.
Boomers love tax money
doesn't sound like you pay any tax champ
@@JamesClark-cg1qk Doesn't look like you write very often Slick.
Is Kisin a good comedian because he’s not much of an intellectual.
Konstantin, you look ill, mate. Vax injured?
No, he is an alien off an UFO
Two people, neither of which has any education in economics, discussing economics. Fine. They are allowed to express their opinions. It's just important to realize that their opinions are just that, opinions. Everybody has one.
John was the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia for six years, so don't disregard his understanding of economics
Indeed, education solves all problems. I wonder what field your PhD is in.
@@pawelpap9 If I was presenting myself as an expert on economics, I would try to at least have some education in that field. When you are ill, do you just go out on the street and ask passers by what you should do about it? If you're smart, and want to live a long and happy life, you ask someone who has been trained in medicine. Plenty of people have opinions about medicine as well, and I don't have a problem with them expressing their opinions. I just take them with a grain of salt, as I do the economic opinions of Kisin and Anderson. For the same reason.
yet they understand more about it than you...
@@throckmortensnivel2850"Experts" - most thinking people had a gutful of them after endless covid, climate change and identity politics.
Give me the good common sense of John Anderson and Konstantin Kisin anytime!