New Scandal Could BLOW UP Dangerous SCOTUS Case
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- A new report from the New Republic reveals that the basis of the case in 303 Creative LLC vs Elenis may be entirely made up. Harry explains the complicated revelations and what they may mean for a decision that has already damaged the reach of anti-discrimination law in the United States.
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Her religious views prevent working with homosexuals, but not defrauding the Supreme Court.
There is a lot of 'ends justify the means' thinking among conservatives.
Definitely.
The basic case is a FRAUD.
They are not conservatives. They are hypricrits
To misquote Sen. Barry Goldwater; "Fraud in the name of righteousness, is no vice."
SPOILER ALERT: She has no religious beliefs
She lied about having a business and the man she allegedly spoke to and lied about in her complaint never spoke to her and he is married for 15 years to a woman. She committed fraud when she filed the complaint. She is stating that this event occurred when it did not. So she lied to get this case filed.
She needs to go to jail!
Perjury.
Her ass should go to jail for false information
A n d ….. nobody all along the multiple legal instances checked the facts. It took an intrepid reporter to run down the facts of the case.
And will she be held in contempt or have to be disciplined for her falsified info to SCOTUS‽
If ruling on a bogus case doesn't scream legislating from the bench, absolutely nothing will.
This court is so corrupt it’s disgusting !! 🤬🤮🤮🤮
Don't you break the law when you file a fake case with a federal court? Isn't lying to the court a crime? Filing an affidavit required? If so the DOJ needs to prosecute.
I agree lock her ass up
You would think. What the hell is going on. Is everyone going to break the rules and laws now and get no punishment?
@@kathymartin6528No. Only white Christian Repubs that don't pay taxes.
@@kathymartin6528 That's how America works.
@@kathymartin6528we're starting to see more and more punishment. It's just very slow. Everyone from Jan 6 rioters and Proud Boys to Trump attorneys and fake elections and co-conspirators to Trump himself are all in huge trouble right now
I'm planning on taking up a case allowing me to refuse providing emergency healthcare services to Christians due to my Muslim faith. I believe that I have standing based on this ruling and the fact that I am not a doctor nor provide any healthcare nor am I Muslim.
As a Muslim, feel free to name me as the Christian you refused service to, that got you fired.
Perfect.
I'm a nurse, and I feel like this is if I went to work and said I refuse to take care of any evangelicals.😑
Can I do that now??
I wouldn't, by the way
I believe you hit the mail on the head.
Except that this court is full of bullshitters who would rule against you anyway.
That is exactly what happened.
If the facts are correct about this being a sham case, ALL of the plaintiff's attorneys need to be sanctioned, including disbarment.
There are no "facts are correct about this being a sham case" If it was a sham case surly the court is intelligent enough to figure it out! The ruling didn't go your way, get over it.
@@dis7817 Did you watch the video? The person who allegedly contacted the website designer did not seek her help and was not gay. She lied and her attorneys lied.
@@jhwatchlist6927 She didn't even have the website up and running - WE KNOW THIS! Think of her lawsuit more as a preemptive lawsuit because what would happen if she did (maybe she has by now) have the website and somebody did ask her to design something that was against her core beliefs? She would be beholden to CO idiotic law that one cannot discriminate based on anothers race, sex, etc. That other person who feels discriminated against is actually discriminating against people who have firm moral, personal, religious beliefs. The "request" was not the basis for the lawsuit, they don't even know it it was real or from a troll
The "conservative" justices of our current Supreme Court are NOT unimpeachable.
True, although I am more of a fan of ending their tenure with finality. I have always been rather direct on my, "break an oath, and your done." solution to dealing with corruption.
Something needs to be done legally about these fascists judges. I do not want to hear they are untouchable. That is bs.
I agree! I think it is possible that the finality you want has already been accomplished by them.
THROUGH THEIR OWN ABROGATION OF THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES as Justices of that Court, they quit their positions when they chose egregious, shameful disregard of responsibility and duty. A Supreme Court ruling in exchange for pecuniary gain or lavish living is A MOCKERY OF EVERYTHING THAT COURT STANDS FOR ... picture Lady Justice blindfolded or the Scales of Justice .... said the Drama Queen who is mad.
They knowingly elected a long term pattern of corruption in performance of their duties after the 20 year old letter Thomas wrote seeking more compensation. It did not come via approved avenues, but it came, unlawfully and unethically when they knowingly elected a pattern of secret "quid pro quo" exchanges of rulings for financial, political, religious and other benefit to themselves as the receivers of favorable rulings purchased those rulings and all associated benefits.
The "Quittin Date" should be like an annulment void "ab initio."
Possessing the highest knowledge in the nation of the corruption of their own activity, they repeatedly chose to form these "quid pro quo" relationships for exchanges of favorable rulings (some giving later financial benefit to the Beneficiary of a ruling that is enormous).
These were done over a long period of time in a pattern of violations of federal statutory laws on Disclosures and of the U.S. Tax Code. It continued until revealed now and the worst offenders react like kids with Oppositional Defiance Disorder. Thomas has a facial expression that infuriates me-at once, it shows disdain and, as a girl in 11th Grade said of a boy, his expression is also very SNEAVIOUS.
The illegal gains to them may be incalculable.
So, if they get by after they receive some BS, Trumpesque protection, like Absolute Justicial Immunity for Too Many Fishing Trips, there is possibly another way.
Their basic licenses to practice law will likely be attached to more formidable Professional Responsibility Standards of Ethics than they have ever seen. I recently read Bar Association disbarment or license suspension cases in my licensing state, some were suspended for years, others entirely disbarred.
They were done for these very types of pervasive, repeated patterns of unlawful or unethical conduct ... which they continued to do until caught. Bar Disciplinary Boards can be very harsh on these things.
Grrrrrr. I get so mad! I really am going outside to howl at the moon now. Wooh, wooh, woooo!
Meanwhile, the Supreme Court doesn't mind going on a crime spree of its own. Only in a world where George Santos gets to vote to censure Adam Schiff.
Right! The federalist society has been working for decades to turn America into an oligarchy. American had better wake up and stop this before it’s too late.
I know, right?
Exactly
Only in a world where Schiff can spread Lies about Russia and not even mention Hillary and her illegal server that the Russians and Chinese accessed
Well, from some videos' thumbnails, it looks like Santos is in deep doodoo right now anyway, so I would not be too surprised that as things develop, many replicans may be in deep shit.
A fake case moves the Judicial branch into the realm of legislating rather than judging and deciding.
Overturning RvW got that ball rolling; this is merely a continuance of as much...
Yeah, they seem to be legislating all over the place.
Actually it moves them into the realm of pure fiction
@@d33j4ybf Stepping in on Gore V.Bush got the ball rolling
Why do you think they are there?
We're going to have to undo everything that's been done to the law in Washington since 2016, aren't we?
More like 1780. You are trying to deflect to President Trump as if he made the laws.
This is beyond belief. It perfectly demonstrates what radical right wing groups will do to get what they want.
And they are the ones bringing down this country to be run like shit show! I was going to say like a third world country, but then I didn't want to insult them.
Oh you lefties should stop whining when you don't get your way. That behavior is expected in children, not adults.
@@dis7817 We'll stand up when the criminality, the unconscionable, the fraudulent is so palpable against our Constitutional standards. I guess complicit people don't have a moral campus.
@@eibutube1 Nor do they have to follow their own laws. If you can't taste the deceit and fraud going on right now then it's probably good that you don't become a food critic.
@@dis7817Your willful ignorance and blatant stupidity are childish. Being willing to lie, cheat, and steal to get your way isn't admirable and shouldn't be considered Christian.
Thomas/Alito: "We're appalled that our integrity is being questioned."
America: 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
We all know they have zero of either. And both have no humanity either.
who does Alito think he is, a former President?
Thomas/Alito have to do anything their billionaires pals wants.
Can’t imagine why🤔!
Wait!! So her religion says it's bad to "promote" gay marriage, but her religion says it's perfectly fine to lie, commit fraud, and slander. Am I reading this right? 🤨🤨🤨
Pretty much!
Yep.
One of the ten commandments states: "You shall not bear false witness, unless you are a Republican." That's what we get for not reading the fine print.
I think that is ok with modern "Christians" who would not be recognized by Jesus. They have this alternative reality about what is written in the New Testament
Do you honestly think that they read the New Testament?
So, she’s not a website designer, she has no real case (only hypothetical), she falsified the “gay” couple, and the Court heard the case and ruled. We are in dangerous times I see a Congressional hearing coming.😢😢😢
Why even have any rights in this country ! The Supreme Court disgusts me! Never ever thought the dishonesty would seem so ok in this country !
Time to IMPEACH Supreme Court judges for not doing their oath.
Way past time!
Hmm. We had two impotent impeachment hearings toward Trump. And the results …..
Here we don’t even have actual impeachment underway. And the results …..
Nice try jr.
term limits, full FBI checks, and a few ethics rules would be a good start.
Careful, you start to impeach the Supreme Court Judges for not honoring their oath of office, we might have to do the same for most of the members of the House, and Senate. They probably didn't expect anyone to hold them accountable for their actions either, they probably don't remember what they say were saying. If they did we would not have so many traitors, and crooks standing up Trump.
So the Supreme Court, the highest court in the country, doesn't even double check whether or not a case is real? That's embarrassing.
NO. That's blatant bias and incompetence based on power.
They didn't, it could happen is their excuse.
It's really a Russian style court where US oligarchs are crafting legislation to enslave all of us.
I'm sure they did know...I'm sure they knew we didn't.
The majority of the SCOTUS are wholly, or partially, owned by Leonard Leo (billionaire POS Christofascist) or others just like him. This Court would make the Court that decided Dred Scott blush. It is a wholly illegitimate court, thanks to both Republican Mitch McConnell refusing to let the Senate vote on President Obama’s SC pick, but also delegitimized by the astonishingly bald-faced graft the Conservative members are engaging in with their millionaire and billionaire “friends.”
Whoever filed this fraudulent case should be serving some time in jail, and the SC decision rescinded.
You can’t tell me her attorney didn’t know the truth about this deceit. The court of appeals needs to be held accountable, the attorney needs to be held accountable, and the Supreme Court is a shame and needs to be held accountable!
The biggest question is, who put her up to this? This litigation was expensive. Who paid for it? This stinks!
It was some religious group that paid for this bullshit. Alliance Defending Freedom is the "Christian" group that put up the money for this bullshit case.
conspiracy ? follow the money ! is always first step .
I was wondering that myself. That should seriously be looked into. Also they should investigate every nook and cranny of her life to see what other activities that would go against her religion that she partakes in on a regular basis. Call her out on her bs.
Research shows Senator Josh Hawley's wife!
Bullseye! 🎯 I hope this is investigated and uncovered. And hopefully charges for fraud, bringing a baseless and frivolous lawsuit, and conspiracy charges are levied.
I would hope this man who had his name used fraudulently does seek legal action against this woman and the team of attorneys who assisted her in theft of his identity and falsely reporting the facts she claimed to be truth.
Please I'm asking this man to take legal action against that woman.
Maybe everyone should beg him to do it. I wonder if he has a FB account. LoL
The layers in this case should be disbarred, and the plaintiff and the lawyers should be sued for libel and all of them should be charged with capital fraud.
The organisation backing this suit and the plaintiff in this matter should be charged with Fraud. They have also suborned and committed purjury
Let’s be Honest, the Judgement was
made even before these Conservative
Judges got their Nominations. Rest
of it is Nothing but a Charade. 😂
And?
Cuck, maybe?
I believe so..GOP fought hard for especially Kavanugh and Barrett for a reason..
Yes I agree
The Federalist Society is designed to prevent another David Souter, who showed independent judgment and didn't always vote the most conservative position like Thomas. All appointments have been carefully screened and in some cases groomed since law school. Most decisions the scumbags led by Leonard Leo get their way. I am surprised that Kavanaugh and Barrett joined the Chief Justice and liberals to destroy the independent state legislature theory.
CPAC, Clarence and Ginni Thomas, Harlan Crow, Leonard Leo, ***Citizens United***, The Federalist Society, Mother's Of Liberty and all wanting/creating Authoritarian Rule have been implementing this for years. They fund the GOP and Magat Extremists.
can the woman and her attorneys be charged with fraud? Could the attorneys be disbarred? This is mind boggling and depressing.
Look up Alliance for Defending Freedom who were her lawyers.
Funded by the Federalist Society...
who in turn picked Gorsuch, Coney Barrett, and Kavanaugh for Trump to nominate. 😑
100% should be. Lying in court filings is, at a minimum, perjury.
If fraud is charged, the case will be appealed - all the way to SCOTUS and the 6 justices who voted to uphold her original complaint.The fix is in and Mitch McConnell is the fixer
They can and will be charged with fraud.
1 of attorneys is GOP SEDITIONIST Josh Hawley's wife. She also brought the Mifepristone case to the anti-choice judge in TX. Both cases are unethical.
This court is sick and broken. Lawyers need to get together and figure a way out of this.
Something is seriously wrong when a case with a contrived client, a shady complaint, and a "what if" issuue is jumped on and pushed through the courts,. This is a disgrace and I am appalled that something so flimsy can be overturn laws protecting a population that certain people feel don't deserve to have the same rights against discrimination as they have. This is outrageous, and shouldn't be able to stand 😢
These lawyers should be disbarred for this nonsense. She and her church group should be sanction and arrested for fraud.
Using a persons identity without their knowledge and consent is identity theft, and is a felony. Filing a grievance in the courts under false pretense is also a felony. The Supreme Court has embarrassed it's self by not doing do diligence before taking the case.
AMEN! Well said!
That should have been done by the first court to hear the case. I'm curious as to why it is that nobody asked about that until after the ruling was made.
The worst part is that there will be NO accountability & nothing will be done about.
RT-tn3pu,of COURSE not, with the Conservative majority on the Court. Gays and w
The Conservative majority on the Court ASSURES that nothing will be done to reverse the HORRIBLE rulings forced on average citizens affected by them, particularly women of childbearing age, and the LGBTQ couples seeking, and being refused,wedding services from hateful people like Laurie Smith.
This is exactly what is WRONG with our judicial system. These judges should be DISBARRED and the Supreme Court must have rules enacted that they MUST follow.
Isn’t bearing false witness a sin?
Amongst other things
EXACTLY 💯
Yeah, the 10 commandments is more of a to-do list for the right these days....
it seems like it should be illegal, too
I’m sure Jesus would give them a pass as long as the end result was cruelty.
SCOTUS is such an embarrassment !
Why are any of there rulings legit!
What’s to stop them from continuing to make up new fraudulent cases? This must be overturned or it will continue to happen.
That's the whole IDEA ! They WANT to take down any pro- gay law.
I agree it should be overturned, but who can overturn the SC?
I'm not a president of USA, but I plan to be one in the future... a Republican president. If I don't want to follow the constitution, can I ignore it?
Supreme Court: Yes. We will change the law today so it will apply to you in the future.
You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what they are doing.
@@NoToBigBro Yes you can ignore the SCOTUS just like fjb does! Just like fjb can ignore the constitution on a daily basis. SCOTUS does not make or change law---they decide constitutionality of laws brought before them. Civics 101, please take a refresher course.
This court is an embarrassment to our country. This is what happens when Senate shenanigans are allowed to favor one political side over another
This woman that started this should be held accountable for fraud and perjury. I hope somehow the legal system takes her down. And SCOTUS is an absolute joke anymore. Might as well dis-ban it
Lori Smith is just the “face” for this case. The real master minds behind it- and quite likely the fraudulent request for her (nonexistent) services is the Alliance Defending Freedom. They should be investigated, and if found liable for this fraud, face the full legal consequences, along with Ms. Smith as an accessory.
To dis-ban something is to remove an existing ban.
Disband is the word that you wanted.
Defrauding the court is a crime, which should put the lawyers and the litigants in very hot water. The corrupt court will try to keep their fraudulent ruling, but those who orchestrated it should be punished to the full extent of the law.
Not for the Supreme Court.
The lawyers will be eating more Crow than Justice Thomas 😂
This case will be set aside. The Chief Justice is a stickler for rules of the court.
@@jollyjohnthepirate3168 I'm not sure the official Chief Justice has any power on this court.
Absolutely! What's next? Another hypothetical case that is based on lies? Doesn't the so-called SCOTUS have enough to do with the real cases with standing that come before them every year? Why would they chose to waste their time with this phony case? Something is very, very wrong here.
WHY can she not be nailed for Perjury in this FRAUD she perpetrated on the courts ????
This Supreme Court is outrageous! This Supreme Court is BROKEN! How the hell do we fix this?
Wait for them to retire
Crazy you can commit fraud to get a case before the supreme court and not go to jail.
Sounds about yt.
Supreme Court is corrupt. It's time to end the life time appointments. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
This needs to be reversed and she needs to be prosecuted! The majority needs to be censured for being blind to the hypocrisy of this MADE UP CASE!🤬🤬😊
Better than censure they need impeachment and arrest for perjury about their future Roe v. Wade decision, the Thomas' bribery by a Nazi billionaire friend, involvement in Jan. 6, sexual harassment charges, and the "frat rat" Justice's youthful rape charges.
The SCOTUS should be sanctioned for accepting such a trumped up case. I know...there are no real sanctions for SCOTUS, but there should be. They have become corrupt because they have no rules and can operate with impunity.
@@janetritchie7499 We desperately need to make them subject to the same rules that all the other judges are held to. It largely worked for the history of our country to have SCOTUS on the honor system, but the court has become so packed with the incompetent and corrupt that it can't function. Enough judges are at the point where they flat out don't care about being caught being corrupt that I'm not sure what can fix it. The only real possibilities are to stop enforcing their corrupt rulings, pack the court or for vigaloantes to take up the matter. And, I really don't think that people executing judges is a path that we want to go down. It might end up being the only path available if the politicians refuse to clean it up and it only takes a couple zealots out of a country of hundreds of millions to make that happen.
WAAAAAAAIIIIITTTT! Hear me out first.... before we do anything reasonable, responsible, civil, or just.... lets entertain a different choice for a lil bit.
Hetero Folks should go to the LGB Peeps and make a deal. "Hey, you take this L for a little while, and we will mess this whole game up they are playing. Deal?"
"I trust you, do us a Pride. Get it? Pride. You get it right?"
AND THEN! (pro-discrimination laws) + (Dobbs) + (Anti-T Laws/anti-indoctrination) = Banning Religion.
Dobbs made it clear, the Government can indeed violate your Rights if it has an interest in doing so, that interest is SPECIFICALLY in its role as the Parent. A mothers right to make medical decision for her kids, even ones that terminate life, are perfectly legal... as the Constitution is also clear... not all killings are murder. Constitution is fine with killing anyone.
How we use the Anti-Indoctrination. It is a persons Right to believe what they want. Sure. So? Have all the personal relationship with Republican Jesus all you want. BUT! Just like you can not teach kids what the T is, or sex in general.... you shall no longer indoctrinate them into Organized Religion. That way, they can make those choices when they are adults, and can decide for themselves. Why yes I can indeed violate your Rights, because as the Government, if the decision is important enough to us, we can take that Right from you and choose for us all. You teach your kid about the church, you bring the kid to a gathering, any association with anything remotely or tangentially or inadvertently Religious and your in trouble! I, The Government am the Parent now.... Just Like You Wanted Me To Be.
and done! The Government is the Parent, as such it is free to violate your most basic and intrinsic Rights.... even bodily autonomy. As the Parent, Religion is a tool for reinforce ignorance and hate, so in order to ensure kids can make the choice if they want to do this to themselves, they need to be raised without it.
and once Religion has died.... we all throw a party for LGBT for doing Society a solid... by letting us kill Republican Jesus once and for all.
Exactly that’s why when Joe Biden said that the Supreme Court case on student loan forgiveness was wrong it’s because the the the cases that were brought to the Supreme Court decision with all by conservative people who wanted to take over the right from the American citizen
Shame on the Supreme Court.
It's a "terrible precedent from a phony case" and by a phony Court.
I don't know why being hateful towards homosexuals is a religious doctrine. I never heard that in my childhood church.
It isn't a religious doctrine to be hateful. I'm Catholic.
Well it's a cult of hate
The bible is a "make-your-own-adventure-book" really, you can use it to justify everything from mere discrimination, sexual assault, incest, slavery, to outright genocide.
It only depends on what one WANTS to read out of it.
Same goes for most other religious scriptures, of course.
Me neither.
The Bible permits slavery (Exodus 21) and advocates murdering witches, and it calls atheists fools. It is against my religion to "suffer witches to live" and to serve atheists who want a wedding cake with an idol of The Flying Spaghetti Monster on top. I am not to serve fools. It is my religious right to own slaves. My store must be forced not to sell food to witches because they must not live. It violates my religion to allow witches to live.
(Note, I'm being facetious. Murder and slavery, etc. is disgusting.)
Shouldn't this lawyer be disbarred? Lied to the supreme court and she has been everywhere that would have her telling this false story.
This lawyer is Josh Hawley's wife: Erin Hawley!!!!!! Not a surprise. Corrupt to their core. Granny Eleanor in DC.
The plaintiff, and all of the justices who voted in her favor should be charged with contempt of court, and the justices should all resign.
How does a "fake" case make it all the way to the Supreme Court? Shouldn't this have been sussed out in the numerous years and various courts leading up to the Supreme Court taking it?
Reprehensible. No one I know has any faith left in our current, highly corrupt Scotus. Including some of my Republican friends. If NO ONE is truly above the law, why are they dismantling Democracy before all our eyes? One right at a time. Scotus needs term limits & some form of oversight. The law gatekeepers have become lawless & cruel.
Term limits is not the issue. SCOTUS members who lied to get onto the court IS the issue. DOJ can investigate and charge with perjury instead. YES, DOJ CAN.
the court is bought and paid for by the billionaires Thomas, Alito, Kavenaugh, Robert's probably Gorshe, and also Barrett.
Repube politicians and the six far right SCOTUS justices want fascism. In fact, they want to make The Republic of Gilead a reality.
Faith? You obviously don't know anything about faith with those comments. LOL cruel? Don't waggle it in our faces and we won't have to kick it down your throats.
Expand the court; seats were stolen.
Lawyers who file false statements to any court require professional accountability up to and including disbarment.
require? wouldn't,"must be held to professional accountability up to, and including disbarment, and liability, civil or criminal"
The state investigative counsel recommend five of "my" "defense"(actually complicit with farcical prosecutors) attorneys for discipline. A recommendations were rejected by one unknown attorney. Only one suspended for three and a half years. Six months later he was "practicing' again, filling in as substitute Gen. Ses. judge. He and three others should have been disbarred, while other officers of the court should be still serving fed pen time.
How often does any state seriously hold bad BAR members, including those in black robes, accountable?
I wonder which states have impeached and removed more judges than others.
Disbar the attourneys for bringing a made-up case. Take the woman back to court for all of the court costs of state in having to defend a fake case all the way to the supreme court.
And then impeach the judges who obviously don't believe in due diligence when they decide on matters that violate the constitution.
Thank you for providing all the legal details in this unbelievable situation. Really appreciate it!
I’m embarrassed at these justices who are not even committed to the constitution. This ruling now is like what the Onion would write.
If the highest court in the land can't be trusted to be impartial and doesn't follow any of the rules then why should the rest of us? It's basically the end when you can't even expect justice because you know that the judges won't follow the rules and can be bought off.
The Onion's version would be funnier!🤭
They would rather keep receiving luxury vacation trips from Harlan Crow than up hold the constitution!!!
I wonder how much longer until we collectively agree to just ignore the SCOTUS decisions.
What do you expect a liar and con nominated three and corrupt politicians appointed them. You expect honest judges from that...if we don't get rid of the religious fools from government the United States is doomed. They'll hand everything to the crooks who say woke indoctrination CRT gender identity groomers killing babies. That's all it takes to win the religious vote.
The group that funded and supported her is just as guilty, if not more so, because they knew exactly what they were doing.
The very definition of Judicial Activism is making up a fake case or fake issue and then deciding it. Fundamental rule of jurisprudence is "actual case or controversy."
Enough of these life long appointments!! Term limits for Supreme Court Judges and Senators.
Since it’s a fraud, the Colorado prosecutor should go after the woman and also after the lawyers. The DOJ should intervene and push back against the “Supreme Joke”.
The. DOJ will do nothing..Garland will make sure of that. Garland is a life-long Republican and a supporter of The Federalist Society.
Isn't one of the lawyers Josh Hawley's wife?
There is unfortunately a limit to what the DOJ can do - there really is no method I know of to push back.
@@mainenative5928I wouldn’t doubt it , Hawley I’d part of the Maga group so if she’d married to him then most likely she is too!!
@radagast25a No House of Lords, Sovereign Parliament, neutral judiciary just a Supreme Court chosen by a man who would be King to do his bidding. Civil War has resulted in from far less!
Execution of Charles 1st !
Let's keep this front and center as proof of how corrupted this court has become. Please..😢
I certainly will keep this case front and center as an example of a corrupt and useless SCOTUS.
Thank you! This has baffled me completely! I'm no lawyer, but I know that standing is usually required for these cases to move forward. Then when news came out that the "same sex marriage request" was a fraud, I wondered why no one bothered looking into this before now? I hope this makes a difference but with the current Supreme Court I have no faith in them having the integrity to address this (honestly, how was this not figured out when or before it got to SCOTUS?).
That this case was allowed to be brought up to the SCOTUS is criminal and should be struck. There is absolutely nothing in this case that can stand up to scrutiny, how did it make it all the way to the highest court in the land? Who paid for all the attorneys in this case, who is behind all these lies? All these questions must be answered, or are we going to start putting forth hypothetical cases whenever we want?
Was she paid to bring a fraudulent case? How'd she get to SCOTUS?
That's likely given it's the ADF
Yes likely handsomely
Yes, the Koch network (Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation/Cato Institute etc.) Are behind most of these right-wing cases. They shop for plaintiffs to push their agenda from the student loan forgiveness to taking away power from the EPA. All bought and paid for.
These attorneys should be investigated for professional rules of conduct violations, and if substantiated, sanctioned.
DISBARRED.
So you can’t lie under oath and purger yourself, but you can lie and file a fake legal case!? WTF!
Is she and her lawyer being charged with fraud . They should be ,state and federal courts .
SCROTUS needs to be completely dismantled, the paid for justices prosecuted, and the entire premise rebuilt
from the ground up. There needs to be many changes...
Term limits (10 years) age limits (70) and income limits (total transparency)
Revolution
Read the case. Seriously, it's posted all over.
"We don't serve Trump supporters." Business window signs
And have a 'Christian' sign company make them.
Colorado should require businesses who discriminate to post notice on their website and premises stating the type of discrimination practiced by that business.
I hope the Colorado AG goes after her for fraud.
I've been a graphic designer for over 30 years, and I can guarantee you that NO ONE hires a designer out of the blue. Either they've been referred, seen your advertising, seen something that you've designed and have somehow gotten the contact information (designers and front end developers don't typically sign their work), or otherwise know you. A freelance graphic designer has to scrabble, hustle, fight, claw, and otherwise bust their back for every single client, regardless of your experience and quality of your portfolio. If a design position is advertised, firms receive upwards of 100 applications... PER DAY. Yet somehow, this client just falls out of the clear blue sky wanting to hire THIS TOTAL UNKNOWN? Someone who just happens to believe that gay people don't have a right to exist? And not just design any old thing, but a site commemorating the most important day of their lives?
The entire scenario not only stretches credulity past reason, but the contrivance in service to this hateful political agenda couldn't have been more obvious had it been spelled out in 30-foot tall flaming letters.
Shame on the courts in CO ever hearing this case, and shame on the Supreme Court.
EDIT: Not to mention the fact that I have turned down plenty of clients. Whether its because I've been too busy, lazy, or just didn't feel like the client was a good fit. No one can force a designer to work for them. Period. It's not like being a public defender. It isn't retail. Now if you work at an agency and you don't feel comfortable about a particular project, then you do have rights whether you do it or not. I don't recall ever refusing to work on anything, though. That said, advertising might not be the right industry for you if you're squeamish or if you have particularly high and inflexible moral standards. It would be like a vegan animal activist freely choosing to work at a slaughterhouse. But hey, known plenty of designers that worked for World Vision. There are always options.
Quite simply, the court has ruled that religion has authority over civil law, thus destroying public accomodation of all kinds. It means that Justice Thomas and Justice Jackson can now be barred from eating at the local lunch counter if the white owner's religion demands whites only. Have the six reactionary justices ever wondered why this country ever came into existence? Claims of religious authority are delusions, remnants of the Dark Ages, which is where the Republican Party is leading us.
Well said..and thank you for pointing this out. People need to know just how phony this entire case is.
Agreed. You pick a designer for their esthetic. It's like hiring a wedding caterer, without looking at the menu.
I've turned down churches, right wing groups and Republican candidates for website projects. Not really for any 'message' it might send, but because they always want the 'Patriot' rate. At least now they can't force me to take them on.
SHE WASN'T DESIGNING WEBSITES WHEN SHE SUPPOSIDLY GOT THE REQUEST. Boggles me!
@@DecimatorPrime And she wouldn't even be writing the content. She was just going to create the software, not any of the content. So, even the claim that she was going to be forced to create stuff that violated her beliefs was a lie. She just didn't want to provide services for gays and lesbians and still wanted to be in the market.
This "court" is unscrupulous. The abortion case had zero standing to be brought to the court. Now this case. ZERO CREDIBILITY!
We need to reform the Supreme Court; they have gone rogue.
How did this case even get in any court and how can a case like this that's not based on real events get to the Supreme Court
She has a sincerely held belief that she should be able to discriminate in her profession, but she doesn’t have a sincerely held profession.
The lawyers who brought this bogus case should be STRIPPED of their licences !
Infringing on someone elses right because you don't like it is BS.
@@dis7817 You mean like everything the right is trying to do these days?
And the fraudster who brought the case should be in chains.
@@ksb2112 Wrong, the left cult are doing this, they just like to point fingers at others, lefties never take responsibility for their actions. Example twitter censoring conservative voices, you know this is true! Funny how when Musk bought twitter and said he supports free speech for everybody, the left got, still is, really scared THEIR voices will not be heard, and they don't like that idea!. Tell me one right of yours that is more important than my rights...
It was the wife of Josh Hawley…. From Congress!!!!
Her attorneys should be disbarred for filing a frivolous suit.
We are circling the drain with these clowns.
Harry-my question is can the Stewart guy falsely brought into this case bring a suit against this? They supplied his name, address, and phone number--i would be furious!!!!!
This is my question as well. Surely there are some grounds for a lawsuit here. I am sure there are some pro-LBBGTQ attorneys chomping at the bit for a shot at this case.
Maybe this woman’s church will dig into it’s coffers to help her out with her attorney fees and suit settlement. (And if you believe that, I have a prime piece of swamp land complete with a bridge I can make you a deal on.)
@@katiedotson704
They only do cases that have no grounds & for which they have a fascist agenda.
Melissa Gira Grant is the reporter who contacted Stewart and she says he is a very private man so I can't see him wanting the line light..🤷
Who footed the bill for Smith's legal costs? Who paid for her to start this action? Follow the money. How did this action get this far?
Alliance Defending Freedom brought the case for her..A Christian Nationalist outfit..
It got this far through appeals splitting the lower court thus it went to the SC and they agreed to hear the case..
The Koch network is behind almost all these cases. They are the Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation/Cato Institute etc
Some radical Christian group with lawyers that go around the country doing this kind of crap. Non issue should be a non case.
Alliance Defending Freedom- a Republican pressure group
Check her bank account $$$$$ is that not a option ? She had to get paid
THIS IS WRONG
and the courts need to reverse the decision.
HOWW COULD THEY WITHOUT RESEARCHING.
Why the heck didn’t the prosecuting pick up on this at the beginning ? Completely negligent of them
This mess is gonna leave a mark. Thanks Harry for breaking it down for us.😍😍
The "conservatives" on the Supreme Court have completely tarnished the name of the court and it will take decades for them to get any semblance of integrity back. Thomas, Roberts, Alito, and the rest are nothing more than a group of corrupt people who are legislating from the bench. They are doing the very thing they have claimed liberals have done for decades.
When the courts become fascist our last defense for democracy is gone. That the Supreme Court has gone fascist is our death knell. Thanks, Harry!
The Supreme Court has gone republican !
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maga.
@@ag-om6nr Yeah, fascist.
*Federalist christian 'conservative' repugniCon$ and magat Extremists hijacking Democracy for authoritarian power.
And we are in a Death spiral.
The Supreme Court looks like a bunch of fools.
So if she had never been a web designer anywhere let alone Colorado where she lived - in other words she had no business or online presence as a web designer - how and why would anyone let alone a guy from San Fransisco contact her - via email - to request her professional web site design services in the first place? The original court was right - she had no standing to bring the suit and it seems like SCOTUS was yet again applying their affirmative action policy for advancing straight white christians to the disadvantage of everyone else who doesn’t fit that description. It’s known as their “let them eat cake” doctrine.
Exactly.
This was a false case built on a false and anti-Constitutional premise to promote intolerance, division and hate. In other words, a Republican wet dream.
The legal system in the U.S. is rotten from top to bottom.
no, it’s not, but some bad apples here and there
@@rossr6616 She's a ruSSian bot, probably.
I emphasize: TO THE BUTTOM😂😂😂
A flaky Supreme Court that has no logic behind their reasoning.
Good grief, did everybody forget about the EEOC? The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. It means nobody can be discriminated against just because they are different from you. Is the Supreme Court trying to shut down another government agency that protects We The People? 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I obtained my ordained minister status just so I COULD marry same sex couples. I'm not LGBTQ but I also don't believe it is my place to dictate what rights are reserved for whom.
Read your Bible it will tell you everything you need to know about the abominations that God does not approve of.
@@thirdgearband which bible? Yours?
Good on you. Behaving in a compassionate and loving manner is what Jesus preached. These Christian
'haters' need to read their bibles, preferable cover to cover....
@@thirdgearband the fact that your "holy book" has multiple versions should tell you something.
@@thirdgearband Read YOUR bible! Eating pork is an abomination also. Had a hot dog lately? You use the bible for hate, as Christ criticized. You don't know anything and a hater.
If no one is above the law, then time to do something about the Supreme Court
It's Orwellian Thought police. I think I might want to have a future business. I think the state laws will prohibit me from discriminating .I want to preemptively sue, before I have any conflicts, because of my religious freedom in the first amendment that allows me to discriminate. It hasn't happened, but I think it would happen. I think you, SCOTUS, should protect me by ruling that if I do start a business, I can discriminate by law. Thank you, justices.
@@nancygodsey8312
Spoken like a true troll
So the real question...can we put some right wing clown justices and lawyers behind bars for this?
Basically, if we allow this ruling to stand unchallenged with dire extremely, we will establish a precedent that by "trying" and ruling on suppositional cases the supreme court can effectively create new laws instead of Congress. Where are our checks and balances?!?
So she hasn't even started a web design business since 2016? This is insanity and the justices have been legislating from the bench.
I mean yes they have been re Obamacare and Roe v Wade, but thats not what this is here. This is actually common practice where people will sue preemptivly if they believe that something will happen, and Colorado has sued other business owners before for this same thing so there is a history.
Prosecute the fake plaintiffs to the fullest extent of the law! Enough is enough. Time for real accountability!
Shouldn't the lawyers who filed the case be subject to disbarrment? I would think the Colorado AG could do something along those lines.
Abuse of the courts was supposed to be illegal
Can't wait to hear of Thomas & his wife denied services because of their interracial marriage.
Deeply disturbing is right! How does someone like that inexperienced new business owner even get all the way to SCOTUS. Doesn’t there have to be a lower court hearing first? Who put her up to this? More digging is needed because it wreaks of the likes of Federalist Society or similar.
Alliance Defending Freedom
It sure does! It's got Leo Leonard's fingerprints all over it.
@@peterjermey7235 right and who are they comprised of? Probably overlapping w dark money that Sen. Whitehouse has been exposing.
I believe there was a state case & District Court case before it went to the Supreme Court. This whole case sounds like it was fabricated to get the ruling the conservatives wanted.
Yup. That's why Rethuglicans are hell bent on getting Trump back in the WH and winning back the Senate. They want nothing but McConnell to fill these courts up with these far-right, turn-the-US-to-religious-right-at-all-costs judges so they can reverse EVERY piece of legislation and law to affirm their sick and twisted ideology. VOTE BLUE FROM NOW UNTIL....!!!
Thank you! For talking about this, this is crazy!
No more lifetime appointments! Term limits are in order!
Constitutional expert Neal Katyal suggested it was a fairly easy fix to get this ruling thrown out.
The question is who has standing to challenge it?
Much less the guts.
It should be the man she listed in her complaint that sues that hag!!!
All the LGBTQ+ community whose lives are being upturned by the vicious, nasty vitriol that's being aimed at them
Oh trust me some asshole will furnish us with a perfect case probably within a couple of weeks. There's a whole bunch of shity bigots out there who are just itching to take out their personal issues on an LGBT person
I think he said it goes back to Colorado then, the state from which it originated.