Inside the Most Controversial New NFL Stadium
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Background
Buffalo, New York, despite its small size and harsh winters, boasts one of the most passionate NFL fanbases. The existing Highmark Stadium, constructed in 1973, has shown significant wear and tear, largely due to exposure to extreme weather conditions. Owners Terry and Kim Pegula recognized the need for either extensive renovations or a complete replacement. An engineering study estimated that renovating the old stadium would cost nearly $1 billion, with $500 million required just for the upper deck, extending the stadium’s life by only 15 years.
In August 2021, the Pegulas proposed a new $1.1 billion stadium funded by taxpayers, threatening to relocate the team to Austin, Texas, if demands were not met. The proposal was approved, and by August 2023, costs had escalated to $1.7 billion, partly due to financial mismanagement.
Design
The design of the new Highmark Stadium draws heavily from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, designed by the architecture firm Populous. The new stadium will feature approximately 62,000 seats and a canopy covering about 65% of them to protect against wind and snow. The enclosed concourses will shield fans from the elements, and heaters under the overhangs will enhance comfort. The seating arrangement, with a steep 34-degree angle, will bring fans closer to the action compared to the old stadium.
A significant design feature is the 360-degree walking access on both levels, enabled by moving restrooms and concession areas outward. Plans also include a 5,000-person standing-room-only area, dubbed the “Party Deck,” though its inclusion in the final design remains uncertain. The stadium will have multiple ingress and egress points for the field, unlike the current stadium's single tunnel.
The stadium’s exterior will feature a colonnade with iron-spot brick panels and lighter perforated metal panels, creating a dynamic visual appeal. Outside, the "Family Circle" will include a sculpture of a family of American Bison. A Stadium Experience Center allows fans to preview the new stadium through scaled models and virtual reality, aiding season ticket holders in seat selection.
Construction
Located adjacent to the existing stadium, the new site was originally a parking lot. The groundbreaking ceremony took place on June 5, 2023, and excavation work began shortly after. By March 2024, excavation was completed, and foundation and steel work were underway. As of mid-April 2024, the construction progress was visible, with the structure taking shape.
A quirky incident during construction involved a fan jumping into a deep excavation hole, sparking a superstition that "Feeding the Pit" would ensure Bills victories. This became a trend as the team went on a six-game winning streak.
Controversy
The financial arrangements for the new stadium have sparked significant controversy. The Pegulas, with a net worth of $6.8 billion, will contribute around $850 million, while $250 million will come from Erie County and $600 million from New York State, funded by taxpayers. This deal, deemed one of the worst for taxpayers by a sports economist, has drawn criticism, especially since the Pegulas will own the stadium outright while paying for only half of it. The state's contribution included $418 million from overdue Seneca Nation Casino funds.
Another contentious issue is the absence of a roof, making the stadium ineligible to host the Super Bowl. While some fans appreciate maintaining the cold-weather advantage and iconic snowy games, others argue that a roof was necessary and was omitted only to reduce costs. Additionally, the new stadium's 62,000 seats mark a decrease of about 10,000 from its predecessor, potentially driving up ticket prices.
In summary, the new Highmark Stadium promises to be an impressive venue that enhances the fan experience and accommodates Buffalo’s challenging weather. However, the significant public funding and controversial design choices have sparked debate and criticism. - Zábava
Love how this is being compared to the Tottenham Hotspurs stadium, which was completely funded by the club through a combination of their own money and financing. No taxpayers money.
I think it's being compared with its design not how it was financed.
Where’s the financing coming from? Computers?
You do realize that when municipalities make loans to build stadiums they get paid back, WITH interest right simpleton? They’re called municipal bonds! Do yourself a favor and research things vs just quoting Rachel Madcow!
@@poluticonpoint being all NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA teams should fund the majority if not all their stadium cost. Most MLS teams pay more than half of their stadium costs.
I've been going to Bills games since 1967, I was 6. Going to the Rock pile and Rich Stadiums. I'm going to 1 more game in my life, the new Highmark Stadium. Truthfully I could have cared less if they stayed. Our area has more needs than a stadium. But you know, if our disfunctional county and state politicians want to waste money sure give us a stadium
No Roof
Only 62k seats
No Superbowl
Taxpayers (Statewide) are on the hook for 50% of the cost.
Wow, just wow
Is that worth a billion?
So much revenue will be generated from the community around the stadium. Long term it’s a great move but not everyone can see long term
Taxpayers are on the hook for lots of things like student debt forgiveness and illegal migrant health care thanks to Democrat crooks, that run New York state.
Serves New York City right. That overpopulated island makes my sales tax high and takes away from this vast state. The least they can do is help pay for the stadium.
Buffalo doesn't have enough hotel rooms to host a Super Bowl
That snow sure has guaranteed Super Bowl wins..
Stupidity that knows no bounds, total and ridiculous waste. Don't worry Buffalo, Cleveland's new stadium deal will make your deal look much better.
As a former resident of Buffalo, this story makes me very happy to say
that I’m a former resident of Buffalo 😊
Seems to me that the cost of putting a roof on the stadium would have been offset by all the other events they could have hosted during the winter. No roof in Buffalo is pretty shocking.
It snows too much in Buffalo. The roof would be a risk with all the weight from the snow.
@slumped378 That's a false narrative. The Carrier Dome in Syracuse receives more than twice the amount of snow than Buffalo, and it's been standing since 1980. The reason they're not building a dome is strictly due to the added cost.
I just prefer games that have to deal with the elements sometimes. Plus we know how some teams try to really use it as an advantage or even a theme like a buffalo, or the old vikings, or even how the chiefs did miami this year. I ain't trynna see shit looking all cozy all the time especially late season... it's football. Something always nice about a snowy christmas game too
@@nicholasdunn7258 but that means the stadium cannot be used for concerts or other events during winter ...
@@slumped378 the snow would be a risk.....because the roofs of all other buildings in Buffalo that have the same snow are all collapsing?
Can magically come up with 600 million for a football stadium but can’t pay police or give kids a school lunch.
That’s the state of affairs in this country nowadays 😒 SAD and the owners will own it outright…. They could have PAID 100 percent of it and STILL been worth 4 BILLION dollars not including ALL the PROCEEDS they will make
Welcome to America. No one cares about social capital anymore, rich people just send their kids to private school and live in small suburbs with their own cops.
What community in NY can't pay police or give kids a school lunch...also all 600k came from Seneca Indian casino payment that they were withholding hoping to get out of
Yes, let’s keep paying overweight and out of shape cops to stand around, swipes through their phones, take naps in their police cruisers, and gossip to each other all day long. Where do I sign the checks? 😅
They don't pay police because the police officer themselves move to place were no State taxes so police officer defund themselves
We went through this in Atlanta with the new stadium. The best thing they did was lower the price of the refreshments. I used to pay over $100 to buy snacks for my kids at the old stadium. Last time we went, I bought a drink and snack for everyone and it was less than $40. They were tired of the fans eating at all the other places in the area and not spending at the stadium.
Delaware North is out (good riddance), so hopefully that helps! The new contract for concessions (Legends Hospitality) hopefully is better. Honestly it won't take much to be better. Go Bills
Wait till the fans find out how much tickets will be and there’s less capacity. They’ll have to take out a second mortgage.
And they will because the BILLS MAFIA are stupid enough to do it.
Kind of fun that the couple worth nearly 8 Billion dollars, demanded tax payers pay for the 1 billion dollar stadium or they'd move. Thats how you increase fan loyalty!
When the Bills finally win the Super Bowl you’ll probably name your kid Terry
Yea I mean thats just how it works. The precedent has been set many times over now. Not the owners' fault that state & local governments all over the country started shelling out huge money to build new stadiums. If Buffalo didn't do it some other city would have
The new stadium will generate so much revenue to the community and many locals will get to enjoy an amazing stadium
If the owners pay for the full stadium then they shouldn’t have to pay any taxes on revenue generated from it
@@Cg41633they can set the ticket prices to whatever they want so that shouldn’t matter
A night, snow football game is one of the most valuable and unique tv products in the world. Us NFL fans rather enjoy bad weather football games. They're more fun.
When taxpayers pay for a stadium it should be a loan and not a gift. A large percentage of the profits should return to aid New Yorks pathetic excuse for an education system and infrastructure
New York spends more to educate a child than any state in the country ($30,300) and the US spends the second most per capita on education of any country in the world. If New York State’s education is in shambles, it’s not due to funding.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjlots of wasted spending
The no roof still boggles my mind. No super bowls, no college bowls, can’t be used for any other events in the winter. Concerts, monster truck / motor cross, conventions etc. I know the cost would have ballooned even more but knowing that over $400 million is coming from casino money how bad of a deal is this to taxpayers? Just goes to show you how much revenue 9 home games brings to the region in taxes and money to local businesses.
$800 million is still coming from tax payers. No way they make that back.
I wonder how a roof would support the weight. They annual get over 150 inches of snow a year in a 4 month span. And most of that amount comes from about 5 major snowfalls.
@@wendull811 they have roofs in Minnesota, Detroit and Toronto (not for football but still have a domed stadium for years. With technology now, they can put a roof on anywhere.
@seen48 I still wonder how that roof would support that weight. I'm sure than can but the real question is would it be worth it?
Edit: I thought the roof collapsed in Minnesota due to the weight of the snow.
My guy
A Super Bowl wasn’t coming to Buffalo no matter what
Glad San Diego told the Chargers to pound sand.
Yeah not many San Diegans feel that way. I know tons of Charger fans they would have loved chargers to stay
No offense, but as a resident of Austin, we would rather have an expansion team of our own. Transplant teams usually only bring half the fan base. Austin is too laid back for rabid fans. We still haven't paid off our billion dollar toll way that very few use. The Bills are steeped in tradition and hopefully will return to the Super Bowl. Good luck with hochul.
Austin is the new L.A. East. Transplant city, laid back.
they weren't coming that was just a leverage tactic
A tradition of missing and losing super bowls time after time 😂
San Antonio will get one before Austin, y'all a soccer city
@@Barbariandisks that and cfb. San Antonio is the most sensible place for any sort of relocation or expansion, but Jerry will never allow it.
The owners of Buffalo should pay the full costs and not taxpayers. This team needs a dome!
Minnesota had a dome collapse from SNOW. Syracuse Universities Dome is 50 years old and has had close to collapse issues and will need to be replaced with something better.
10,000 less seats an insane. Guess whos gonna eat that cost? Yep your upper level nose bleeds are now gonna require you to take a second mortgage on your house.
We went through this in Minnesota a few years ago. Nothing like old fashioned extortion. We should always help the rich. It's the american way.
The risk of collapse from snow is to great to try putting a roof over the stadium in a snow belt city like Buffalo NY . They get record snow fall off the great lakes ,and if the lakes don't freeze over it snows even more.
Then why does Syracuse have a dome in an area that receives much more snow, 3 hours away? It was a billion more to build a dome. The only reason.
Snow isn’t going to cave in a dome - come on
"I'm a billionaire and I feel that the taxpayer should give me all that tax money simply because I don't want taxpayers to have it. I'm a Capitalist, you see ... "
Another taxpayer funded project for the tax exempt NFL
That should make tons of money off our funding
The NFL is tax-exempt because the 32 individual teams owned by the 32 billionaire owners are the taxed entities.
Hey, multi-billionaires. Stop holding your teams hostage, threatening relocation if taxpayers don't fund your new toybox. You're a multi-BILLIONAIRE. YOU pay for the stadium and/or get your billionaire buds to help pay in exchange for whatever.
The state of NY did not agree to it. Hochul did because her family will make millions on the deal. Stop watching the NFL!!!!!!
Well made video, lots of potential for this channel…
Even with a roof, it would be a high risk to schedule a Super Bowl with the severity of the conditions up here in the winter. Possibility of a two foot snow fall a few days before the game would cause major logistic problems for all vested interest.
2 Super Bowls in Minneapolis, 2 in Detroit area, 1 in Indianapolis, 1 in New York City area. No, it would be fine.
That’s why you build the transit system coming into the stadium.
@@steveralston8837lol😂
@steveralston8837 none of those cities mentioned get lake effect blizzards like Buffalo does. It's a whole different level there.
The region literally doesn’t have enough hotel rooms to host the Super Bowl or Final Four. Would be a nonstarter.
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Curious as to how the Bills Mafia is feeling about the personal seat license costs.
They are all stupid and could care less.
B.s. they are pissed
The party deck is shown in the WKBW video you showed from 6/4.
As a NYS resident this stadium pisses me off so much, just watching this video was hard!! GD billionaire owner makes the "WHOLE" state pay for his Buffalo stadium. Unreal we are on the hook for something only used 8 times a football season!!! I hate this WELFARE for billionaires while the rest of us struggle with simple medical bills. Than k you Kathy Hocul for your idiotic decision and making non football fans pay for this!!!!
THE PIT MUST BE FED
After all this, they still will have to rent out Ford Field during real bad winter months.
no they won't ...
That happened 2x. Both with 5 or more feet of snow.
@@ismaelmaneiro222 the seating area is now covered ... only the field will be cleaned off, and quickly ...
Uhh yea but you know you have to get to the stadium right?
@@jonahan82 yeah they have plows over there …
I probably dont understand how all of this stuff in USA works, but youre telling me he can pay half of the money for the stadium with tax money and at the end he owns all of it?????
Americans have this weird knack of subjugating themselves to prop up the rich. Bailouts, tax breaks, all this socialism talk is to benefit the rich not the people.
People don’t understand lake effect snow and how much a full roof that wouldn’t collapse under its weight would cost to construct.
They could’ve made it work so that’s BS.
And? Billionaires should always have to fund the construction of their own stadium. Just another case of socialism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else. Exactly how most of these billionaires amassed such wealth on the backs of others. Taxpayers will never profit from it's use so why should anyone else fund it?
@@vans1788 Yes yes yes! This right here.
Syracuse has had a dome for the last 44 years with no issues, and they receive way more snow than Buffalo. It was another billion they didn't want to pay.
@@dante6563 billionaires are just the true freeloaders of society but use their influence to spread trickle down propaganda.
I don’t understand how they could build a stadium that has 10,000 less capacity than the older stadium ?
You’ve gotta be kidding me ! I mean, if you’re going to do something, you might as well do it right.
Did they put on the ballot for the citizens to vote on paying for this?
No. wouldn't even consider it.
When this stadium built . I hope they would host an outdoor game for the Buffalo Sabres .
Of all the gripes I have with this, the biggest one is the lowered capacity by TEN THOUSAND seats. I'm trying to go to as many games as possible these next two seasons because I assume I will never be able to afford a ticket, let alone find an available one, in the new stadium
Downstate taxpayers can shake loose of some coin for WNY. Considering all the money upstate taxpayers have sent to NYC.
The bigger controversy (not mentioned) is the stadium being located in Orchard Park instead of in the city.
Where in the city would you put it? Somewhere like War Memorial at Jefferson and Best?
@@dnasty312they had several options, #1 being the old Perry projects area next to the casino downtown. It would've cost an extra billion to build it outside of the current stadium area supposedly.
It’s like Walmart asking tax payers to pay for a new and bigger store🤬get a loan from the bank like everyone else!
I love how we always use the “renovations will cost 2/3 or 75% of a brand new stadium and only be good for 10-15 more years so we might as well build new.” See you in that same 10-15 years when the owners say this new stadium needs renovations. It never stops. Enough is enough you can own a NFL you can pay for your own damn stadium owners. Kroenke paid nearly $7B for SoFi, relocation and the lawsuit. Clearly every other owner can for their own workplaces for 1/3 or even half that.
I always thought that NFL teams should look at the design of soccer stadiums. Fans are closer to field, seats covered with overhang and they look amazing.
stadium should be a dome on the outer harbor or downtown - like Detroit or Indianapolis - no hotels in OP
What?? That is *crazy,* that they are building a $1.7B stadium with 10,000 *fewer* seats? Can't wait to see the cost to attend games there, once it opens..
Great video. Would love to see one on the new Nissan Stadium.
Buffalo cannot support a Super Bowl primarily due to a lack of hotels to house the impact a SB would bring on the local area.
Well even then they’re still missing out on concert revenue and other indoor events, no roof is a bad idea
@@rapid9534😀 Let's give Lambeau a roof too, eh? 😒
Like Jacksonville that one year 🛥
DOME STADIUM A MUST IN BUFFALO !!!!!!!!!
IMHO, just think how deafening a retractable roof would have been for the opposition? No swirling winds for the kicker and Josh Allen could have been a 5000 yard QB. Opportunity lost and that is management's fault for not convincing the fans.
I don’t think the pegulas threatened to move. Where did that come from? Never heard until now
Funny they have money for this but not subway expansions
NFL is king man. Subways have to suffer.
@@Shrooms84 without subways no money no nfl
@@zo62 im in the bay area and our Bart bay area rapid transit is suffering financially. Theyre going to run out of the covid funding they got back in 2021. Now theyre looking for more funding from the city and losing ridership pre covid. Bart is dying and i dont know where theyll get their money from.
@@Shrooms84 all transit systems don’t make money on their own. Even if you privatize them they will lose money there meant for the betterment of the city not financially independent
@@zo62 it’s a public service. It doesn’t have to make money.
I tried to talk to several state lawmakers in my area, Elmira NY about the Property tax to fund the stadium owned by a Billionaire who lives in Boca Raton Florida. No one wanted to talk about it before the vote. It was voted on quietly in March 2023. I lived in Philly when Governor Ed Rendell used School Debt Bonds to fund 4 stadiums, one baseball and one football each in Philly and Pittsburgh. I could not understand how school debts could be used to fund private sports stadiums for teams with wealthy individual owners. But the Bills Stadium will cost almost 3x the cost of those pennsylvania stadiums. Here we are June 2025 and honeowners in New York will just start getting tax bills to biy a stadium for a Billionaire from Boca.
Having a stadium like that and being able to host new sports and events will be a money making machine it will pay itself in 5 years max
Sounds about right for looser government in NY
Ppl from Toronto come to Buffalo games too
Kinda seems like a recipe for financial disaster at that price in that small of a market with that seating capacity and no covering for the winter.
Not sure why they aren't installing a retractable roof. Pretty short sighted.
In 1965 San Diego passed a bond Issue for San Diego Stadium for $27 million. It was a multi-purpose stadium for both football and baseball, even though at the time the Padres were only a minor league team. ONE POINT SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS?! My how times have changed.
Don't forget, San Diego State also played there. So it was definitely worth the price for 3 teams
I miss the Murph. Good times.
@@Cicero75BC I was there for the inaugural football game in August of 1967. The Chargers were hosting the Lions and my Boy Scout troop was invited to be part of the half time celebration. I thought we would be marching down the center of the field in full dress uniforms. Instead they dressed us up as clowns. The Lions feasted on the Chargers, but at least I got to take home a helium balloon and sounded like a munchkin all the way home.
Still trying to understand the wind confusion selling point.
We need to pass laws that zero tax dollars or tax breaks can be used on sports teams stadiums.
Nice job on the video...and I call BS on the roof being too expensive. Mega Billionaires know their stuff is even more valuable when someone else pays. They should have put a retractable roof on the thing. This way, if they wanted to freeze out the other team, they could. It does look nice. Good for Buffalo...that city takes a lot of crap....at least they will get a newer stadium with heat lamps.
Everyone is complaining about no roof (which is a fair point), but I think the bigger issue is how it looks. Why did they have to make it so ugly?
She probably wanted the congestion toll money to fund the stadium.😂
There's a reason why sports makes 10s of Billions of dollars in entertainment, clothing, shoes, restaurants and Hotels!!
The league makes billions and tax payers should not pay a dime!
Not arguing the point but do realize how much is spent on other industries either by tax breaks or by-outs? This is nothing new and has been happening for hundreds of years.
@@davidcostantino1838 I do but the owners of the Bills are billionaires. Once the stadium is built they to will own it outright it will be their asset even though 850 million in public resources are being spent on it. Yes, sales tax and other money will be generated by the Bills but how long will it take for the money to be regenerated by the state. Furthermore, the owners basically threatened to moved the team! That's terrible to even suggest that considering the Bills are treasured by the fans in Buffalo! The league is generating huge money off TV and they should be financing these huge stadiums with owners. I know that since the Rams left St Louis local bars and business haven't recovered but most of the stadiums that are sold to be great for local residents but need public funding never really meet the lofty projections the owners sell the people. Oh, and then there's only a truly small segment of the public can actually afford to go to an NFL games in the big fancy Stadiums. 850 million could have given a lot of teachers as raises among other things. I am glad the Bills and their fans are getting a new Stadium but the owners threatening to move the team if they don't get public money is shameless and every NFL billionaire owner does it and it's wrong after fans have been loyal for years! I think tax payers had to pay way to much on this stadium. Again, good for the fans and I am glad the Bills are staying in Buffalo, but it's a high cost to the state and Erie County.
@@davidcostantino1838 football games are not industries which provide thousand good paying ,iddle class jobs!
And goodell makes 63 mil a year, money well spent
I don't feel bad if that includes New York City. That overpopulated island takes from the rest of the state so serves them right.
Now if they could just go back to the old helmet logo that they had in the 70's of the Bison. I love the look of that old helmet.
The biggest failure with this is not adding a roof. You play in the coldest NFL city and you chose to not have a roof?
I realize the roof is probably a sour topic for the fans at the game as well as the city as a whole. But as a viewer not from the area, I very much prefer to watch a game that incorporates the local weather, especially football with winter conditions..in fact it’s one of the reasons I love watching college football which is predominantly in stadiums. Maybe I’m in the minority, but if have to choose between watching players slugging it out in cold snowy buffalo vs perfect comfort in the indoors of say Minneapolis, I’m definitely watching the game in buffalo.
You gotta make the owners happy I think it’s pretty fair the owners are paying for half when really they don’t have to pay anything. The citizens pay the other half which will go towards bringing more jobs and a better entertainment experience to the city. You can’t have your cake and eat it to. Some may look at this as the owners are being greedy but that’s business why would the owners just pay for everything they want to make money to. Just because they are rich dosnt mean they have to fund everything.
Still pisses me off that they couldn’t make the stadium look like a bison coming out of the ground.
To me, if you design something that doesn’t have high symmetry, you need to look at your design again. Symmetry can be “boring’ but it has a natural elegance to it and it solves many problems. I suppose if I lived a past life I probably lived in Athens.
Buffalo, NY was once the 4 largest City in the United States...and it shows if you drive around #MASSIVE_by_area City though not as large as Toronto Canada.
Yes at the turn of the century
Didn’t matter if this had a roof Buffalo wasn’t getting a Super Bowl for one simple reason…….there aren’t enough hotels for everyone coming in for it. Where are they gonna stay? Rochester? Southern Canada? Erie?
I never understood why people bitched about this deal. If the Bills left, Buffalo will probably never have another football team. From income tax, tourism, and the sale of folding tables and alcohol... They'll make their money back and more
So tired of tax payers paying for these stadiums.
Should worry about bringing a Stanley cup home
Hope it comes with lots of AEDs.
Should have let them move to TX.
STUPID to not have a roof. WTF were they thinking. Buffalo is FRACKING COLD!
The pegulas won’t own the stadium. The state owns and operates the stadium, and the team leases from it.
Awhile ago, I heard that Erie county pays $1 million a year for maintenance
@@Sam-pu6kj currently? Because the county does own the current stadium.
Almost $2B and no roof?!?
Imagine dumping money into the literal dump that upstate New York is. Just build a stadium in Toronto already
Why are public funds available? Our politicians are awarded free box to entertain and fund raise, feed the pigs…the stadiums always run way over estimated cost…the league earns billions, using public funds is disgusting
What is wrong with building a stadium with a retractable roof ? I guess they enjoy playing their snowed out games in Detroit.
It’s ridiculous that taxpayers are involved in the construction or maintenance for buildings where sportsball takes place.
Serves New York City right
Not a bills fan but a fan of the bills fans forsure 😂
And the league and team owners just keep getting richer.
FEED THE PIT
I absolutely hate how this new stadium looks. Massive waste of time and money.
Still no roof? Should not be allowed to host games Dec. Through Feb.
They should not have put in $ 250 million to modernized the present stadium. That $ could have went towards this one
34% seating/stairs? What could go wrong? Lawsuits baby... falling drunk fans and lawsuits. Good times. And is there no future revenue share model for the public as it relates to games or other events?
As a native Buffalonian who lives 5 minutes from the stadium Id rather my taxes go to a new stadium than to Ukraine
I don't feel if NYCs taxes are part of it. Serves them right
1.7 BILLION and STILL NO RETRACTING ROOF 😒
Fans and the team didn't want a roof on the stadium. Part of the Bills culture is playing in the snow, so many legendary snow games over the years. It's like a 1/3rd roof. Most of the snow will go down onto the field instead of the stands, which is what you want, because the field is a lot easier to clear off than all the seats are. We saw that this year with the Bills vs Steelers playoff game that had to get postponed 24 hours due to a lake effect blizzard that dumped like 4-5ft of snow down onto the stadium. So they get to keep the outdoor stadium experience, but it'll be way easier to deal with inclimate weather. They'll still get snow games, fans will be more comfortable without having to sit in a foot of snow on their seats, pretty much a win-win.
Idk me personally I just think a covered stadium would've been antithetical to the Buffalo Bills. It's pretty much part of their identity given it's Buffalo NY and them getting 1 foot of snow is like anywhere else getting a light rain. They're just used to it up there. The only downside I can see is if they aren't eligible to host a super bowl because of it. They have hosted a super bowl at Metlife down in Jersey/NYC before, as recently as like 10 years ago. Though even if it was a domed stadium, I don't think the NFL would choose it anyway because they'd much rather host a super bowl in a large market, with a big city and preferably warmer weather.
At least we have the sacrifice pit
Ya idiot a roof would be an extra 25 million. The only teams that have roofs or domes are those that host other events like concerts. Bills can’t cuz they don’t have the infrastructure or hotels 🏨
A retractable roof will double the cost, so 3.4 billion.
@@retrocny5625could still have that with retractable roof and be able to host other world class events.
It’s not a bad deal tho. The chiefs are having this issue now. I believe Erie county owns the majority of the old stadium which means that 1 billion dollar renovation cost is due by tax payers. And I don’t believe the owners own the new stadium I believe New York State does. If the owners did actually own the new stadium then that would be the best deal. Like the rams owner actually owns the stadium bills have a lease agreement which is why even if they did move it wouldn’t have been right away or the owner would have to refund money that he clearly doesn’t want to pay.
That is correct. Erie County will not own the new stadium. That will be New York State. After 15 years, the Pegulas will have the right to buy the state out of owning the new stadium. My prediction is that will likely happen.
So not only is the stadium funded largely by the tax payers but less capacity = higher ticket prices.
No retractable roof, don’t even bother building it!
Sad to see this continue and how much more needs to be shown before you realize this country doesn't care about it's people only the money.🤷♂️
Taxpayers should not pay for a place the don't want to go and can't afford to go to.And no roof?
A lot of us didn't want the new stadium and wouldn't mind if they moved.
@@kidthump you're definitely in the minority, there.
@@jeremygiglia4824 Lets put it to a vote and find out. KC did and the voters rejected!
Where do you live? NYC?
@@dnasty312 tampa
By the buffalo being such a small market the owners were able to play hard ball and it worked talk about taking a step back not only is this stadium ineligible to host the superbowl but the smaller and it still has no roof 😂