Spa 1970 is Automoblista 2's Best Yet!
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Reiza have brought history back to life with their wonderful rendition of Spa as it was in 1970. This edition, complete with the rare Malmedy chicane (normal layout available as well) has some of the best scenery I've ever seen in a sim track and really transports you to the Belgian countryside in its heyday. With its growing list of classic cars and circuits, Automobilista 2 continues to build its case as the best or atleast the most accessible vintage racing sim on the market!
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0:00 Intro
1:24 Sim History
3:06 Spa70 History
4:20 AMS2 Spa
4:59 Race
26:51 Setup Tips
28:25 Final Thoughts - Hry
And to think, historic Nurburgring is allegedly coming out before the end of the year. What a time to be alive.
Is it going to be gp historic layout or the whole nordschleife?
@@s3nTer Whole Nordschleife, and maybe possibly even Südschleife, but that's unconfirmed
@@s3nTer It's going to be the whole 1971 Nordschleife, so it'll be one hell of a track.
@@s3nTer 1971 GP track, so the northern loop with a few placebo safety barriers.
@@DicraeoF1 omg that would be amazing 🤞🏼
You had me at cows. Cows are giant dogs you can eat without fear of reprimand from fellow man.
So refreshing to see someone with knowledge appreciating the work that went into this track. Great job Jake.
Remember, AMS2 Spa is NOT the PC2 model spruced up. It is a ground up rebuild using film footage and attention to every bump and dip it was possible to discern from multiple years of available data, photographs, local records, and the memories of those who actually raced it. Reiza missed many self-imposed deadlines for its release, but the final result was well worth the wait.
As a general point for AMS2 I would like to see the driver preempting the sustained g-forces in various turns. At the moment they bounce around in reaction to the g-forces and bumps but do not appear to preempt g-forces any driver knows are coming. This would massively add to realism.
That may be true, but I played the hell out of this many years in PC2...
@@andrewestra1808 Me, too :)
You really do put together the most enjoyable sim racing videos out there. Your love for racing really comes through and your historical knowledge is amazing Thanks!!
Nobody does the historical aspect of racing like he does
I believe that Chris Amon drove the Masta Kink at 200mph, the only person ever to achieve that.
One of the best drivers ever.
Yeah, but very unlucky. Some people don't give him the respect he deserve. Some people think motorport is ALL about numbers
Love blasting the C9 round the chicane free layout, 220+ mph, awesome.
If I recall correctly Reiza did send their team to laser scan the remaining public roads while they were doing modern Spa. Unfortunately the 70s GTs and tourers don't yet have gearing high enough to race properly :(
I wonder how they determined the landscape of the 1970 layout, same with Spa 1993, the landscape too has changed a lot. Maybe watching hours and hours of footage and looking at pictures
The book FASTER by Jackie Stewart & Peter Manso. tells the tale of the 1970 season.
I was hoping someone would release the AC version ported as a mod or something, but they just made it themselves and it’s awesome!
I love driving on the spa circuit in sim racing games this looks great
This track is literally all I've been driving the last few days. It's so good. And this video is amazing as always.
Animated cows!
Sheep too if I remember correctly.
What I love the most about Spa (the track itself is awesome too - especially in classic guise) is the relation to WWII based on location - you say Malmedy/Stavelot, I hear "Band of Brothers" & Company of Heroes 2. I have driven past it many a time on my way to the Nür and all the signs at the side of the highway are also like riding through the Ardennes Assault DLC missions in CoH2.
Yes, animated cows are incredible 😅. Even without it circuit looks nice and interesting to see version with chicane.
The actual 1970 set would be cool
Thank you for another great video, btw Reiza anounced releasing 1970 version of Nurburgring until end of the year and 3 other historic tracks in 2023, looking forward fo it.
I still remember how it felt through Malmedy in GPL . The 3dfx Voodoo made it playable from a FPS perspective, but the steering wheel was the only way to actually enjoy it. No FF, and about 270 degrees of rotation.
This video is an absolute gem. Thank you. I cannot believe some people who have complained about the accuracy of this version of the track in AMS2. I have no time for them because I am too busy enjoying it in and out of VR. is Both this and Monza 10k without their chicanes racing 60's/70's cars are reason enough for any GPL player to play AMS2 as well as GPL!
To be honest, I was more hyped for your video than for the track itself.
Got to love 1970s safety chat
"OK guys, for safety we added a chicane"
"Oh good, so we won't be arriving at Masta at full speed then?"
"Nah, don't worry, we put it far enough back so you can reach top speed again by then"
As always, a lovely video and really impressive improvements by Reiza on their 70s content - this is next level immersion stuff. With the 70s Nordschleife up next, what a time to be into vintage simming! Just need some slower period cars than F1s to be added now, to expand on the very slim 70s touring and GT categories... come on BMW CSL!
What I love about Spa is how it is connected to the WWII by proxy (corner names) & thus to "Band of Brothers" and CoH2.
Driven past it many a time (on my way to the Nür) and all the signs at the side of the highway are all CoH2: Ardennes Assault DLC mission names.
Cool content; subscribed👍 Spa is just incredible; I go to races here twice a year, as I live just an hour away, in Germany. I’m lucky, in that the Nurburgring is also close to me, so I’m kinda spoilt for choice. I’ve been racing the 74 Porsche 911 RSR 3.0, around Spa 70; just awesome🔥But let’s face it, it was so damn dangerous, back in the day; 300 km/h meters away from trees, houses & telegraph poles, is a no go. Thank god, those days are over.
Great view of my time. Was in Europe the summer of 1970 but did not go here. I wasn't in control of where we went. Sad considering how close it is to the Nurburgring which I was lucky enough to talk my parents into visiting.
Monza was the third track in Jackie Stewart's safety quest. He and Jochen Rindt were best friends and Rindt died there.
The BRM P153 was unique looking as were all the cars but nothing was more unique looking in 1970 than the Lotus 72 imo.
very accurate circuit width and layout. this was just a standard country 2 lane road until the very early 2000's. there was very nearly a F1 GP at spa in 72 & 73.
when they released this I was more excited for Jake's video on it than I was to drive it myself
I had to rewatch Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix" again after watching this. You are doing such a splendid job of immersing the viewer into your racing events.
The group C cars on the 1000km layout are absolutely terrifying, especially if you add GT Classics class and Group A cars to get a sort of 'almost correct' GT field, but the 22 grid spots do really let it down
Though it might be for the best, the closing rates are bananas and any mistake while lapping is totally an airplane crash
There is a mod/edit you can do now to increase the grid spots to up to 60!
@@Puhdull Yeah but it is so, so jank and requires you to do hacky stuff to get it working every session
I'd rather Reiza just up the limit on appropriate tracks officially then have to have a faff with cheatengine every time I want to have a proper grid size
I thank you for absolutely convincing me to disregard my responsibilities and do some vintage sim racing. Priorities.
seems like the right priority to me
@@GPLaps Just finished. It was worth every crash.
Great vid.
Recently moved my sim rig to a new PC, and have been picking away at getting everything set up "right" again.
This gives me some motivation to get going.
Juat remember this is precious history! The wonderful software programmers behind this are true historians for our age. Like we study gladiators in roman ampitheatres, students in generations to come, will ask why did they do this - race and risk their lives? Maybe I am too old but I get far more excited over this than the latest Electronic Arts F1 game. Who cares about Verstappen or Le Clerc. Cars then were beautiful, dangerously unpredictable and exceptionally loud and thunderous beasts. And the brave men who drove them were real men of courage and life, not today's diamond studded man-boys. Please we need more of this.
I remember when you did the 1965 Belgium GP years ago & I commented back then that was one of the scariest rides I've seen in a video game. Now looking at the 1970 version of Spa it's even more breathtaking & terrifying because of the speed. One mistake on this track it's curtains. But I enjoyed every second of this video because the track & the cars are awesome. I got Automobilista 2 & play some on the Grand Prix tracks in this game. Like the Osterriechring, Silverstone Circuit without the chicane, & Kyalami. Great tracks to race with old & new cars. I hope the game add the old Zandvoort circuit because that be a great track to race.
I love this track, I've been driving some of the older cars here since it came out. Fantastic.
Absolutely love this track, watching you race i realise I’m still terrible at it😂, great vid
It's wild that only 5 out of 18 cars crossed the finish line without mechanical issues in 1970. I guess that much flat out running really did a number on those vintage engines.
Just wanted to show my appreciation for your channel here. The atmosphere, the knowledge, the soothing voice... it all adds up to a great channel with videos that I look forward to watching as soon as the notification pops up. Thanks for the great content!
This is great. They kinda hinted we might get LeMans when they said we’re getting low downforce versions of the Group C cars.
Your videos are so great! The editing, the music, the footage, the information in the voice overs is so high quality that each "race" video you put out is like a big budget production Documentary. It's great to watch you race, and even better to learn new pieces of history each lap.
You had me at "animated cows"!
Great Racing! The guy can steer!
Holy crap I haven’t been early to one of these before. I will say GP Laps you are a true connoisseur of sim racing. You have helped point my interest back into trying to get good at sim. Thank You!
Great history of the track in sim racers. Watching the race now. Another banger of a video.
Really looking forward to driving this track. It's a beautiful rendition! Would be amazing if someone who actually drove this circuit did a video playing the sim with some commentary.
I really hope more of the newer sims start to include "classic" tracks, like the full Monza course with oval, Circuit de la Sarthe circa '69 with no chicanes. The full Hockenheim ring.
Jeeezus! Absolutely mental! So fast!
Really love your videos, your enthusiasm pours out . I do not have the GPL version, I do have AMS2 and not RF2 . I do have the AC version and love it . The constant mods , and AI adjustments make AC my favourite. Added to that I think the physics and FFB , feel far more detailed in AC . Could you do more videos using AC , there is massive amount of vintage cars and tracks . Especially with SOL and all the PPF filters . Just a request. Keep up the great work Jake , cheers . 👍🏼
Your videos are so entertaining. I wish I had more equipment & time to get involved in simracing. I guess your videos will have to do for me now.
Reiza have excelled once again, as have you sir with yet another amazing video that is compelling to watch. What a time to be a sim racer, we really are spoilt, thank you for another lovely video, stay safe.
AMS2 deserves better. Great video as usual.
As you said....I have been away from AMS2 because it is good, buit did not outpace all my vintage favourites in AC. But I definetely will have a closer look again now. Thank you for another great video.
Love the video and just wanted to ask you one thing: Could you please share your AMS2 head movement settings? You seem to be using Legacy Head Movement with a bit of Head Movement on top. Curious what your exact settings are, as I have been in a couple of discussions on this subject myself. Thanks in advance for sharing!
I believe that Henri Pescarolo left the lap record at Old Spa at 163 mph in a Porsche 917 in 1973. That really must have been a lap to see.
Matra 670B...So a slightly lighter car than the 917 with quite a bit less power. Which in my book makes it a bit more impressive, because it means he had to drive with the throttle buried in the front bulkhead to keep the average speed up.
He was driving a Matra 670C 3 litre V12. No chicane. The chicane was always used after a crash there in the 24hr later that year. Two drivers died.
@@markbresnahan2440 Oh it was a C, I've always thought it was a 670B, interesting.
I love the track surface undulation, i guess in the absence of laser scanning. it would be possible to replicate some of the track undulation characteristics by referencing original on-board camera film footage, frame by frame :) ( Bathurst Australia)
Animated cows easily carried the video 😤😤😤
love it I've been waiting for you to do this looks so good great work!
Another great Video, Jake. Love your content through the years.
Excellent video as always!
Lovely content as usual. Top shelf.
The editing is always on point. 💯👍🏾
Was waiting for this vid and boy it didn't disappoint
Damn you Jake 😃 I need to practice 'Le Grand Circuit' for HRRC, and you're tempting me with 70s Spa goodness! 😃
AMS2 is getting so good ! Great video and commentary as always ! Tanks 👌
The best sim/historic racing channel out there. Thank you for all the effort you put in these.
Just what I was doing last night 👍 Did find the AI (100%) prone to crashing unfortunately. But when they made the first lap clean some of the slip streaming duels you got into were crazy. When they wanted to make it two wide through the masta kink I backed off 😯
Yeah the ai is pretty crazy on this track. It Crashes a Lot and Zero chill. A little annoying sometimes
Every thing is so accurately told and perfectly edited! Story telling as never realized before on sims. I started enjoying AMS2 just few weeks ago and got Spa Dlc...amazing! Just one question: how can I move the cam around the track? I tried to do that without getting it.
Yes there was a chicane at burnenvile pre WWII. I'm not sure when or how long it lasted. You're probably aware that the original layout went further left after eau rouge into a hairpin and rejoined where the top of raidillon is now. It also went into the village of Stavelot where it turned hairpin right.
Cant wait for the next part of your 1966 series!
I've heard some people skips the intros for your videos...and that's a shame, this is art =D
nice video as always! keep it up !
rf2 hay bales were brutal. A rogue one in the road at Burneville took me out in a league race. Ended my night early lol. Fond times.
Wow, I remember the GPL Spa67 impressions video and that was already 7 years ago!
Looks beautiful!
This video makes me want to upgrade to pc from console, amazing videos bud ,appreciate your work.
Like Christmas! Now if we could get the Mosport track. Great driving BTW!
Do this race (without the chicane ) and the gen 1 cars under the 1966 conditions 😊
If I had my way classic spa would be too.
Amazing
I'm of course referring to the animated cows.
the animated cows 😮
Cool !
I need the long Zeltweg. 👍👍
Saw button win there. Almost had an orgasm when I realised I was in a traffic jam - on the old track!
Ηey Jake awesome Spa video. Can we expect one for classic Nurb as well? Cheers!
i like the Intro Music
Classic Spa 24H
I wonder if they intend on giving us a pre-war verison of spa because I noticed you can drive around the area of the old Customs house at the bottom of eau rouge.
I your short race we can clearly see what plagues the AI right now: Too much side by side racing and trying to overtake everywhere.
But Reiza fixed so much in the last year that Im very optimistic that they will get rid of this AI behaviour.
Secret Tip If you want agood race against the AI at Spa.
There is an great AI line/fix for an Assetto corsa version of Spa 1966 on Racedepartment by a user called parilla that is optimized for vintage sports cars.
Driving the GT 40 there is scary as hell.
I would post a link but CZcams deletes the comment if I do that.
I do enjoy some AMS2 but I spend all of my time driving in practice sessions just hotlapping with a full grid of cars. The actual racing is just not very good.
Wow ❤️❤️
I've been asking for more AI slots at any track that doesn't allow for at least 31 opponents for over a year now. Historic Spielberg is another one that only allows 19 opponents and it really limits the potential of that track and really any custom championship you want to create because it will limit the championship opponents to the lowest allowed at any track. 22 slots for historic Spa feels just as much of a let down.
I really hope Reiza look at expanding even beyond 31 opponents as tracks like the Nurburgring, Spa, Daytona, and others would feel so much more alive if we could get 40, 50, 60+ opponents on it.
Enthralling as always.
Awesome, thanks for the upload.
Who crashed in the first turn on the first lap? An AI or a player?
You can get a version of the track with the original Au Rouge turn to the left and the detour into Stavalo village for Assetto Corsa. It's called "Spa Faux Pre War". Not sure where to find it though?
Can you do a lap of classic spa with a CART IndyCar and see what happens?
I'd like to see you drive an Aston Martin DBR9 in a video
Spa 1967 Dan Gurney no aero 196 mph rest in peace Dan.
I wanted to try GTL. I have TS-XW Racer, TLC-M and generic aliexpress h-shifter, 3 devices, GTL recognizes them but captures input only from 3 of them. What can I do? I can't find any help online
Yep. spent many hours on GPL
I really really want a AAA action story driven racing game based on historical GP racing. From the very start up to the 90s! I want it to be really visceral and atmospheric, with engines throwing oil all over you! Crowds or fans everywhere and with really engine soumds!! I really dont want much... Do i?
Or a game based entirely on the Le man racing in the 60s. Story driven again. God I can only hope.
I suspect the small grid count might be an AI limitation for now, sadly. It's already quite rare for a full 22 car grid to make it through Eau Rouge without incident. Cant imagine 32.
Otherwise, this track is awesome though. Already planning to do a full Vintage Gen2 F1 season.
@RGM: that’s my feeling too. During the RC, this class & the classic Porsche/Corvette was a wreck fest through Eau Rouge. That seems to have improved though, with general release; although the AI are still dodgy. But a grid of 26 cars would be a big improvement, if Reiza continues to work on the AI
This Spa description sounds like a spa description 😅
You sound like Zac Brown @Mclaren :)