Harley-Davidson Price Drop: Get More Bang for your Buck with Harley-Davidson's Lowered Prices!
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- Harley-Davidson price has dropped on the Street Glide and Road Glide - Now is the time to invest in a new Harley-Davidson motorcycle, you're getting more power with the Milwaukee 8 117 at a lower price than the 2023 models. Harley-Davidson price drop also applies to the color options as well, you can choose a color and add black finishes on a 2024 Harely-Davidson with a Milwaukee 8 117 for less than a 2023 Harley-Davidson with the Milwaukee 8 114.
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How do you feel about Harley-Davidson's lower prices, is it time to buy a new one or do you think the prices will rise again?
did they drop the price on the sportster sport?? 2024 BMW k1600b $33 400.00 CND ,,,,,$24 300.00 USD ....GTL $36 000.00 CND hey did you fart again??
I will wait until i can buy a used LRS 2022 model with under 1k on it for 15K...That deal will come....Already had deal like that on a 2021 LRS with the 114...but i will wait for 117 2022 model in a year or 2....Thats why i like the New revamp HD's...because it will lower the used market Bike prices...
I,m assuming those are US dollars?
@@kevinroberts172 Of course$....
@@bradlozano2571 Thanks. I,m in Alberta and the prices are close to Canadian until you get in to the CVO,s.
$30k 😂😂😂 ohhhh me, I will stick with my '95 RK. All hail the Evo!
I'd take your 95 RK all day long, that bike has some soul!!
Preach!! 🙌
me too!i'm staying w/ my 95 roadking>>>>>>n.w. Ga. here
I say the best Harleys are the older ones. Late 1980's evos up to the last Twin Cam 103. Just tastefully customize, and you will have to do some mods to the motor if you want some good power. The look is classic, more timeless. Harley I think their hey day is over, their glory days. When the Evo came out those were some of the best years because the motor company was trying to build a good reputation after the dark days of the shovelhead. I know the newer M8 motors have the potential for alot more power. But the bikes don't look or sound as good IMO. You can only go so fast anyway so. I mean I believe if you realy want to go fast have two different bikes, one for like the dragstrip, and another alot more mild for cruising, going on trips.
AGREE 100%! 👌
I could not have said this any better. The older Harleys are going to become more prized possessions as the years roll by not only for their looks and performance but for the way they sound.
Off the charts HP ratings are great for bragging rights and maybe brief euphoric spurts of speed but in the end impractical and overrated. I've been there done that with other bikes in my past that I've owned.
I am now more than content with holding onto my 2003 Road King Classic for the way it handles and performs after the Screaming Eagle upgrade and the sublime engine sound is pure nostalgia.
I think the new touring models are ugly. I wouldn't buy one and I am having my 2003 Road King Classic rebuilt. I like my black 114 Fat Boy too.
You'll still save a lot of money redoing the 03 over buying a new one and you'll have honestly a more reliable motor!
I second your thoughts...
I still not a fan of the new batwing fairing...
I love, and still get many comments on my 2015 Ultra Classic...
+3 with me I will take my 2011 Roadglde FLTRX all day , I hate that iPad looking screen , love my gauges guess I am old school.
Took my 30K miles 2001 Road King in to the shop to have the tensioners changed. While in there they found worn camlobe tips and lightly scored oil pump (!). Still a huge difference between replacing those parts at dealer service dept prices than go buy a new HD! And crank runout was only 0.001in. on the Timken bottom end.
2003 Road King is one exceptional Harley! Well worth rebuilding and holding onto for another 20+ years. 👍
In my area the shops have 2023 baggers up the wall. They are going to discount the hell out of them.
Now if you can get one with a heavy discount in the color options you want that 114 don't look so bad at all now!
Actually just bought the last 2023 streetglide special my dealer had with Bkack on black and in Canada it was 35, with a slight reduction because it's a year old. But I like the analog Guage package rather then the electroluminescent one so and coming from a twin cam 96 Fatboy it's a big jump to a 114 M8. I am a happy guy!
Ever since I rode from nj to Daytona bike week in 03’ I vowed to never buy another bike with a radio… let alone some f’n screen on it. That god smack tape got ripped out of the radio so fast and smashed on the ground as soon as I got down there.
Evos all the way!
I do feel like the electronics are quite over rated myself and they just keep getting more and more of them.
@@GixxerFoolast thing we need to be is distracted on our bike! Need to be extra vigilant now a days with everybody snap chatting and driving.
Love having tunes for my long hauls. Rode for ions without. I'm sold on the infotainment system. GOD SMACK F'N RULZ
My bike has a stereo and I never turn it on. It’s ok for a short distance but is mostly a distraction. The stereo ain’t bad when you are polishing and waxing.
I couldnt agree with you more...Riding with music and fiddling with a infotainment screen is so districting for me....I rode From Cali to Houston Tx and back right before Covid hit and the only thing i was listening to was the roar of my TC 103 and the V@H 2 into 1 Propipe...
man that black roadglide st is THE BIKE, i will pick one up in 10 years used for under 10k
I submit that Black was the most popular color because there was no up-charge for it. A lot of people were willing to pay extra for the popular Billiard Gray. This year they switched to Billiard Gray as the standard color with no up-charge, now people are angry about that. What can Harley Davidson do to please everyone?
I paid $4,500.00 for a 2008 Buell Ulyesses with 15,000 miles on .. I pass HD's and scare them in the Twisties because I have stock exhaust and they can't hear me sneak up on them ..
That's awesome! Buell made some amazing bikes back then, they were way ahead of their time and such a beautiful mash up of a reimagined Evo Sporty motor in a space age designed chassis.
I for one like the new style and the newer M8 engine. The new prices have me quite intrigued and now the itch has started bouncing around in my thoughts. My old TC88 is still a good running machine and the best part is it’s paid for. 🤜🏼 😉
It's hard to beat paid for but we all know the price is gonna go up next year with or without any changes.
Thing is they’re adding more hp to the same pressed together cranks with .010 run out , no Torrington bearings and no timkens in the bottom end. How do you think that’s gonna work out ?!?!?
Not to mention cheap ass lifters made in Mexico.
Yeah... we don't talk about that, hey look new colors 😄
It will work till it doesn't and that seems to have been the mentality since they started that in 2003.
Harleys have been slow garbage since I was born. But people are marks for them
Haaaa EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!!
Even with more power you will still have the crank shaft issues maybe even sooner because of the power ! Good luck with that !
The sloppy crank issue is for sure going to continue being a serious factor.
Put the inverted forks on all models....better ride !!!
I am willing to bet it's coming, but they will ride the pony till it dies, add the fork and recalculate the price to fall in the middle again.
And better brakes on all
Models.
I love my 23 Roadglide-ST and it’s paid for. I’m not a big fan of liquid cooled heads. This new all touchscreen goes out or screws up your out a bike.
Nice ride! That's what I would love to have myself! This is the new design of the twin cooled heads so we will see how it goes!
Way too expensive and typical Harley you have to pay extra for the upgrades. They figured out black is their most popular color so they raised the price on it. Thanks for the info and take care
Not gonna lie that kinda pissed me off they are charging for black now, I wasn't real happy about the upcharge for black finishes already. But the twin cooled 117 is a nice bonus plus the suspension upgrades this year. The touring frame is still basically the same as it was in 2009 though.
worst part is all the extra $$ you have to spend to fix up all the problems they have from the factory !!!! big turnoff
plus color schemes are awful ,and black rims ! yuck makes them look like Army surplus
My personal bike is silver a 2016 model i loved the gunship gray bikes black ones have grown on me but the "free" color this year is awful if i ever bought a new bike id just get the free color black but now its almost mandatory in my opinion to get something other than the silver offered this year
I have both, and 03 Dyna and a 20 Roadglide. Hands down I prefer the twin cam carburetored. Being kicking around the idea of going back to a TC dresser.
Took my 30K miles 2001 Road King in to the shop to have the tensioners changed. While in there they found worn camlobe tips and lightly scored oil pump (!). Still a huge difference between replacing those parts at dealer service dept prices than go buy a new HD! And crank runout was only 0.001in. on the Timken bottom end.
Bravo!! That is is absolutely magnificent! Very low run out and you caught a problem early, I love this! How did your tensioners look at 30K on your 88?
@@GixxerFoo They were just at the point of small chunks starting to come out of the chain-contact portion of the pads. I caught it just in time. More concerning was the cam lobe wear. This bike has been religiously maintained with only HD branded oil from the very beginning.
@@25chief39typical garbage Harley product
@@El_Peto The Factory's response at the time was shameful, they shoulda done a recall on those TC88 tensioners. Now though, the issues are well understood. Recently I was able to get a pristine and relatively low miles (30,000) 2001 Road King for USD 9000. After having a HD dealer's Service Dept fit the SE hydraulic tensioner kit with oil pump upgrade included, and changing the "prematurely worn" cams for an as-new stock cams set that a mate had immediately changed out from his Dyna way back in 2003 and still had tucked away in a drawer at home, I've now got a total of USD 12,000 in it. Only 0.001 of crank runout, coz it has the Timken bottom end. This bike will now well outlast me, as a durable and reliable tourer and fun weekend bike. Why buy a new Harley?
@@GixxerFoo At 30,000 miles both tensioners were just starting to have chunks of yellow tensioner material coming out of the chain rubbing faces. About a dozen chunks, each about half the size of a match head. The rear tensioner was worse affected than the front one. Total breakup was beginning. I headed off this problem just in the nick of time. My HD dealer Service Dept did a total timing chest rebuild with Screamin Eagle hydraulic kit (includes new oil pump), new cams, new lifters, and changed all bearings, for USD 3,000 including new rear tire. Purchase price of bike 2nd hand in 2017 was USD 8,400. So I now have USD 11,400 in it (this is in New Zealand - was I ripped off, compared to USA?), and can expect it to last until 60,000 miles or more with no further issues now that I've fixed the Factory's main f%@&-up with the TC88s that they should have done a recall on.
Im happy with my 2021 Street Glide with the 107 and stage 2, more than enough power and its paid for
No need to go on and get a 2024 just for an increased engine size and new fairing.
That 107 cammed is super strong!!! Plenty of torque and pull, to be honest you hit a point where you're just splitting hairs on a dyno for bragging numbers that don't mean a lot in the wild.
This morning, I changed the fuel filter on my black 2013 Road Glide, which is much cheaper than the 2024 model and I see very little difference in the style.
Ain't nothing wrong with paid for and just doing the maintenance!!
Love the 2013 just like my 2011 in my opinion it was the best looking Roadglde they made.
Not a fan of the new style, it was fine for the CVO because I was never gonna spend the money for one in the first place but now I'm a little sour about it replacing the classic road and street glides.
That new style really made the older ones look even better honestly!
They’re charging for black? WTF!!
Yeah just black paint, I did hear a rumor it's due to the cost of pigment to make black going up.
@@GixxerFooI think they could just burn stuff and get black pigment. 😂
. Red was popular for barns,just because......
Henry Ford would roll over in his grave.
Interesting.....but. Always the big but with the MOCO. The outstanding question is 'what did they delete'? Harley has a pretty good track record of deleting content over time from their bikes. Bigger motor, twin-cooled, and just for the heck of it they decided to take a haircut on the price? Well , I think there is a lack of trust on my part.
Not interested in anything with the Milwaukee 8 or Revolution engine in it at any price! They have no soul! 👌
Exactly!!!
I’m still evo, and don’t want the latest / greatest!!!
I feel that way too, but once you get a big cam in an M8 they start to thump and lope like a Harley used to.
How can u say an M8 has no soul? Just because u don't like it? Or can't afford it? What about the hundreds of thousands who find a ton of soul in them?
@@johnliotta2583 cause soul isn’t about being the fastest. The most powerful.
You are ignorant to a carbed old school v twin, Harley.
Feeling is soul, not what’s easy.
@@GixxerFoo they start to,
But don’t exactly.
That’s the soul.
Kinda doesn’t count!!!!
I think analog gauges are a little bit more accurate. All the
digital gauges are nice to look at. The only problem being seems like you have to keep updating your operating system. The cost of a computer program is cheaper to manufacture than actual analog gauges. One program can be installed in thousands of units. Ride safe wind brothers.
My personal experience owning an HD
My 2019 Ultra 114?
50K miles, meticulously maintained.
Modifications- HD Stage 1 , TAB slip ons, everything else is stock.
At the dealership for over 3 months for the transmission oil transferring into the primary, third fix attempt .
Also major internal engine damage due to the oil pump partially failing. Symptom was almost 2quarts of oil being consumed every 5K miles, dealership was advised several times of oil consumption when it was at a quart every 5K miles and stated “that’s within spec”. It didn’t smoke, and it wasn’t noticeably down on power, but failed the compression leak down test at 72% on the front cylinder. Great motorcycles if you ride under 5K miles per year, and you better have the ESP warranty!!! Damn I wish Victory was still in business!!!
I bought a PanAm the other day and got it below MSRP (leftover '23). While there got to talking to the salesman and he revealed that HD had lowered their prices for '24, finally responding in some way to the fact that the market has changed. Economy, interest rates, toys that are priced just too damn high - ask RV salesman, boat salesman, etc. Tide is turning the consumers' way, folks!
Good luck with that piece of shlt
My 2003 54 K Road King Police is paid for and I just had new cam chain tensioner and new throttle cables installed. Hoping to avoid all grenades in forseeable future.. Now thinking about shocks.
Suspension is the absolute best investment you can make in a Harley hands down!
Was in my H D dealer today to pick up some stuff I got a tell you those new bagers to me are ugly looks like a Gold Wing 😅
You know I wonder if they are kinda looking at the Honda cause they sell a lot of them.
I bought a leftover 2023 ST for a pretty good deal.
Now there is nothing wrong with buying a left over especially an ST!
@@GixxerFoo Thinking of doing a nice stage 2 with around 120/135, any thoughts on a clutch?
How about price transparency? Dealers frequently don't list an MSRP on inventory, and haven't for years. Itemized 'window stickers don't exist. Dealers add mark-ups beyond MSRP. At the end of the day, out-the-door prices continue to rise at a rate that will prevent me from buying new.
I’m just building the crap out of my 107ci 2021 FLTRX. She’s not going anywhere. I do feel that Harley went a little to Indian cyclops, on the new Road glide front end lighting. Great video GixxerFoo!
My question is how expensive will replacing the new infotainment system be? The GTS radio costs $2K for a new one and Harleys warranty is only 2 years on new bikes.
When the factory goes back to Timkin bottom end and non pressed cranks with under .002 run out and gear drive cams, I'll consider one. Tell me how adding big power to these roller cranks with their ridiculously sloppy tolerances is a good thing
The junk internals……I hear them every time I cold start my 2021 Road Glide Special (even with stellar maintenance).
@@trex860 I had to replace my TC 88 cam chest, oil pump and cam chain tensioners with gear drive along with inner cam bearings just to make it as reliable as the evolution. Fortunately it's an 01 so it came with Timkin bearings and bolted crankshaft
Thank god I dont chase hp and Im perfectly fine running my 1990 FLHS evo power
I like the new Harleys, but I'm gonna stick to my Stage 2 Switchback.
Dropped prices? Couldn't tell that by looking at my local dealer. Glad I bought a 2022, it's probably the last new bike I buy.
The M-8 with the crankshaft runout issues along with all the other problems,I'll pass.
Honestly I feel that's just gonna be a thing going forward we are gonna have to deal with.
I know the twin cam had crankshaft run out issues but I didn't know that the M8 does😮. Harley is still doing this??
The runout is way better on the M8 than the twin cam. They worked the bugs out years ago. It’s a solid motor now. I owned 3 twin cams and one new m8. They have all been solid bikes. That’s going back to 2011.
Yea but the runout is a lot better with the m8. It was pretty bad on the twin cam.
@@Prometheus1979 From what I hear it is acceptable up to 12,000 thou. Way too much for a gear drive. The fact that the valve train will have the crankshaft fighting each other. I am so glad 😊 l have my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on her on the original engine. Lots of people have had great luck with them. The EVO was not fast but it sure lasts. The Twin Cam was cheaper to build than aEVO and M-8 is even cheaper. It costs almost $5,000-9,000 to correct the built in bad , cheap parts installed at the factory 🏭. From the crankshaft up. I`` stay with my Sportster. After 25 years on the road 🛣️ l think 💬🤔 l am happy 😊😁.
The pricing is still too high, but it is a step in the right direction. The 2023 SGS/RGS started at $31,000 because it's MSRP + RDRS + Surcharge + Freight. When you add tax, title, reg, and dealer fees, that's easily $34,000+. Now it's closer to $29k if you want the same blacked out bike, so maybe around $31,500 for the newer ones. While you get far more bang for your buck, that's still a huge chunk of change. It's a pity that they don't have a touring model like the EGS, without all the fancy electronics. Just a touring chassis and a big engine with bags. Solid vids, keep up the great content.
You're absolutley correct, that's exaclty what the world needs right now. We had it in the Electra Glide Standard with the 107 and it was about 18K at the time. That was the perfect setup right there!
02 Road King for me.
In my area the local shop is tagging everything with a 1K price drop. However, that's what you got before all this if he told them you needed a better deal.
Dealers can really do whatever they please for the most part with the products so long as it is within reason for the most part.
I'll stick with my twin cam 88
Same here I love mine
@@MAC-co4cr it does everything I want it to do 🤷🏼♂️
I'm sticking with my 01 RK, but wish I'd got an Evo after finding out how many special tools need to be bought to do anything properly on the Twin Cam motors.
I’ll hang on to my twin cam 96 black softail standard. Even though I’m currently in the process of rebuilding the engine thanks to the crank having 0.015” runout!
I believe Harley's allowable run out measured in the bike is up to .014 now, which is absolutely ridiculous.
@@GixxerFoo the oil pump is scored real bad.
HD corporate was offering $4000 off a new touring model before I made the deal how could I say no.
When I got home I applied for a refund of the tax I paid and got that. It was a huge deal how could I say no.
You got a steal on that with that deal! That's how you jump in and buy new one right there!
Stopped by my local stealership to see what the new bikes look like in person and the cost. Saw the 23 Fat Boy for $23,500. I just purchased a pristine 2000 Fat Boy for $4k and I can honestly say I like the looks of my 2000 better. I'd prefer if it was an EVO, but cautiously optimistic that I will learn to love the twin cam. Harley can keep these newer bikes and I have no plans on picking up one of these maintenance nightmares used either.
I do like the older bikes a lot more myself, 23,500 would put a hot motor and anything else you wanted in your 2000 model with money left for a road trip.
It's a start. Now they only need to drop their prices another $15,000 and then you will be getting your money's worth.
Still too expensive
I agree, I would like to see them more on par with the Kawasaki at about 20K. I can't believe I am saying a Kawasaki is 20K now...
I'm perfectly happy with my '23 Heritage 114. Reasonable price for a traditionally styled H-D that's very comfortable. I have no desire for big TFT screen electronics as a major working component of a motorcycle or the twin-cooling. I get tunes and and navigation and whatnot with a bluetooth helmet and cell phone.
The Heritage is really a hidden gem in the line up, it on that new Softail frame with a first class suspension and it's light! Being lighter is the key but carries enough weight to be stable on the highway, one of the absolute most under appreciated bikes in the lineup if you ask me.
Still overpriced with the discounts.
Harley can still drip feed tech and displacement to the sheep but the rest of us want a classic displacement bike with emphasis on build quality and RELIABILITY at a fair price. Bikes built with premium parts IN THE FACTORY and not forcing us to replace inferior parts later.
That will never happen. That’s how the stealerships make their money, parts and labor.
I agree, quality internals should be highest priority.
I’ll just stay with my 1997 Evo Roadking
Prices will always go up and compared to other brands, they are priced similar. It depends on what you like but you will never find a premium touring model in ANY brand going below 25K.
That's exactly my thought on high price of a Harley, it is truly premium in motorcycle terms.
You are comparing the street/road glide special to the 2024 standard models.
Standard wheels, fairings,bags.
The price went up!
They did away with the $22,000 standard model with a 107 and split the difference at 25K for a standard model but with revamped suspension, new looks, twin cooling and a 117 eninge.
Thank you Polaris for making Harley have to try harder.
Amen my friend!! There's so much truth to that!!!
@@GixxerFoo The most I ever paid for a new Car was $7,190.00 for a 1979 Z-28 Camaro. The Most I ever paid for a new Motorycle was $7,400.00 for a 2016 Yamaha FZ-07 ..
I paid $4,500.00 for a 2008 Buell Ulysess with side cases and a top case and 15,000.00 miles on it. I mess with Harleys all the time. I fly past them on the curves and with 103 HP and 520# I beat most HD's in a drag race too.
I ran 12.77 at 107 MPH .. I had one pass with a Trap speed of 110 MPH still can't figure that one out. Redline is 7,000 RPM's but I ran my best times shifting at 6,000 RPM's I still have the Camaro too ..and it's a lot faster than stock .
I'm keeping what I got. 2008 FLHRC and 2005 FXSTI. No way am I paying that much for a bike.
If you wanted to split 30K in both your bikes you could do the suspension and build a monster motor... have something way more special than anything new. You already got that though with the soul your bikes have, the new bikes can't replicate that.
Yes the base price on a new SG or RG is $25,999 but, by the time you add a color ($650-$850), A blacked out trim option at $1,350, the Cardo headset module ($495) so you can ACTUALLY use Car Play, an additional $350 for 3 years of Nav and $200 for the Hill hold module for the included RDRS plus setup and ship fees your back to close to $30k!!
You're gonna be in the 30's but typical Harley fashion they raised the price from last year but at least they gave a lot more bike for the money. Still not a deal if you're bargain shopping though.
LUV your videos, sir. Not really liking the Milwaukee 8 engines, they just do not have that traditional HD sound. Maybe I'm just too old school. Plus, I can still get 2016 around 10-12k and older with a lot of the upgrades done already.
Thank you! The 4 valve heads were needed but they really changed the sound. They do sound good with a nice cam but the older 2 valve heads still sound better to me too!
I have a 2022 road glide limited. My last Harley…. I’m 52 years old so if I were to buy another I would choose a lighter, smaller bike since I figure I’ll just get old, tired and weak in the years ahead.
If you get out of that Road Glide those trikes are pretty sweet, it's a different ride but they defintely provide a way to keep us riding longer.
@@GixxerFoo I might think differently as I get older? Even a voyager kit can extend a riders years. My best friend is 68 and still rolling on a two wheeled bagger. Not everyone ages the same. I just don’t see myself spending another 30-40-50k on another bike. These prices are becoming too stupid for this dumb ass!🤣
I saw the new bikes at a show this weekend. The Roadglide CVO ST is gimmicky with the cheap looking carbon fibre pieces IMHO. Now carbon fibre wheels would have been something for weight reduction as well as a 2into1 short exhaust if HD was serious about making a factory track bike.
That new Roadglide ST CVO looks good in the pictures but as you mentioned getting into it up close reveals some things the pictures don't show.
Why is a black trim more expensive than chrome? The chrome process costs more to produce
It's not real chrome like we remember from back in the day, I remember what a real chrome shop was and it was a real process. Black finish is cheaper and easier to produce and it's what everyone wants now so they are cashing in on it.
Yeah thanks. I'll stick to a 10 to 15 year old bike I can work on and not spend 30k.
I would not buy a new Harley with a M8 engine if I could get it for 1,000.00 dollars
I would and then sell it to buy 5 Evos 😂
That's kinda my thought on the price of the new bikes, you could buy an Evo and build a monster on aftermarket cases for less.
@@GixxerFoo Oh there's no doubt about it! Almost 30k for a stock bike that's pretty wild if ya ask me. I'd rather have a mint twin cam and a good ole EVO which is exactly what I have. I don't need a touchscreen on my bike.
I understand what you’re saying. I’m going to keep my 107” m8 and I’m doing a fueling 129” big bore kit. I’ll let you know how it turns out
That's gonna be a monster kit! You'll be way north of the 100 horse and torque mark there!
Lower than last year but it has $5000 less accessories on it
How are they supposed to sell the superseded 2023 models? There's usually a good deal there.
Between the bigger engine and the new dash, I'm interested. But at 40k,i can't do it. I'll have to wait about 10 years and hope to get it for 15k
I would love to have that new CVO Road Glide ST... that's right up my alley with comfort and crazy power right out of the box but funding says otherwise. Let's wait and see why the big SkyNet dashes do in the coming years. I love the tech but I also know what happens to it as it ages 😬
I think the gray looks good. I heard the black got more expensive due to the increasing cost of the pigment.
Really?! I had not heard that, that's quite interesting! I am gonna have to dive a little deaper into that!
Last time the Mo-Co made these bikes cheaper they replaced premium style bearings with INA ones that would fail and wipe out the entire motor. I wonder how many load carrying bearings are now completely plastic? 😅
For sure! I pity the foo that buys one of those CVO'S. I suspect they'll sit in the garage with less than 3000 miles a year put on them. Hard to sort out issues in that scenario. HD isn't going to sort it before production!
I like them!! I wanted to purchase one this year.. but I’m going to wait see if they bring the CVO front suspension over to the the non CVO lineup
Sigh..... having to more for paint. If I want primer I'll get a rat rod.
I like the new street glide at least it's growing on me. Also the twin cooled 117 is awesome.
Whatever happened to HD Racing? Lower prices is good but still above my pay grade...the misses said no more Harleys till I win the lottery. I'm up $2 already...
I think the power is weak. My Friggen 1275 sportster has 118hp 112tq. It’s also only 500lbs. They should be putting out way more power for a 117 or 114. I mean I spent a total of 12k on my bike and all the upgrades.
Don't tell anyone, but I am a Sportster guy myself and I have a lot in mine too!! Frickin love it!! Sportster with the 1275 and some suspension in my opinion is the chef's kiss!!
@@GixxerFoo oh I know you are I’ve been subbed to you for almost 4 years. I just never comment.
But if you get a 2024 Glide, you can only get a “Wet Head”. Air/Oil cooling are not available on the Road Glide or Street Glide. 😞😞
I’m glad I have my Road Glide Standard with a 107 with a Stage 1 to start. After my ESP expires, time to Cam up! 🏍💨🏍💨
You did say the M8 was the last air cooled engine. Good insight!!
I am really sure of that, I hope I am wrong but twin cooling is making its way down the line now!
Ya the bikes are cheaper, but you’re still going to have to pay a couple thousand or so just to uncrappify the stock setup by getting a better intake, external breather system, exhaust, and a tune. I’d be impressed if they rolled things out with a Timken on the crank and gear drive cams. I’d pay last year’s prices for that.
Alot to mention, but i just don't appreciate the brand enough to pay the new price.........I've never owned a Harley, but to me it makes more sense to buy a clean, used 88ci, or 96ci and hop it up? Or even getting an Evo model and doing something with it? Going water cooled on the Soft tail on up is a bad decision in my opinion.
That's been my thought and the basis of the channel is buying a used bike and putting some money in it and having something way more than anything on the showroom floor.
Prices will soar shortly. The 23s are going to go way up and there’s a surplus of them and, or a surcharge is going to go on the new models.
Oh yeah this little split in the difference of price isn't gonna last.
There are plenty of good low mileage used Harley’s out there to buy that you can get with a lot of the core upgrades already done. Why pay 25-35Kbfor a bike that probably won’t see 5000 miles a year. Not to mention the current interest rates. The trick is finding one that doesn’t ugly changes that some think are upgrades like these hideous handlebars and stretched saddle bags. And then there are the ones with a list of engine modifications that may or may not have been correctly and are thousands overpriced. Upon trade in or resale those chrome do-dads, don’t add any value.
Harley’s never made a better Honda. I’ll keep my TC, and my Evo thanks.
You got the best of both worlds right there!
I really like the new bikes. digistal gaueges not so much as i really like analog. other than that great.
The old school crowd has misgivings about the new bikes, especially in the engine department. Many like the simplicity of a Shovelhead or Evo, but the new bikes combine a modernized classic look with the latest engineering; I personally like VVT and the twin cooled heads -heat is always the enemy of HD engines. Some will like and some will dislike, but the world marches onward. Personally, my M8 has plenty of life and will probably outlive me, but if the chance came to get a new one, a new Ultra Limited would find a place in my garage!
More like a fashion show than a motorcycle. 😂
Please explain, the relationship of torque, horse power and miles per hour , when putting a kit in a bike
The short answer is horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how hard you hit the wall. In MPH terms torque is what pulls you up the dyno chart and when torque falls off the horsepower takes over and keeps your speed climbing.
Thx much Sir , hopefully you can do a program on this topic
Sorry but, if your bike stops pulling at 100 mph ( track speed) what kit increase " top end "mph . Note I can wait until you can do a show about this.
Thx again TEX ( ATL)
Not so crazy about the new Street Glide faring but the Road Glide looks AWESOME I want one soooo bad! But at the same time this should drop the price of used 114 models. 🤞
I am Road Glide fan so I can't say too much, but you caught my thought on that 114. I might just be able to swing one if it drops that price enough.
What's the point of more power if computer is regulated to 100 mph?
Right ! the the 114 will cruise right by the 117 at 100mph . I’ll stick with the 114
Nope I'll stay with my 02 WG3 ✌️
They do have variable valve timing on 117
The new bikes with the 117 have the same cam cover but they don't have the VVT system, that's only on the 121 engine right now. I am predicting it will come in the next few years cause it does increase the horsepower and torque, not to mention economy so expect a price increase on the RG and SG going forward soon in the return of the Special.
StreetGlide whiskey fire , black trim....
I’d for sure get one of the new baggers. But my local dealership has like 40 of the 2023s in stock, so I’m going to see what those prices are when they can’t give them away in 6 months. I don’t mind the 114 or standard 107. Both are faster than my 80evo in my FXRS. Plus, I kind of prefer the analog gauges of the current glides.
Call me old....cuz I am!! But how much is enough? The lower price doesn't lure me. I'm not a fan of all the electronic stuff, the screen, ride modes, and such. A cheap Garmin, a phone mount, a Sena w/ quality helmet speakers,....and I'm good. I ride a '21 RK Standard. Black and chrome!.. Glad I bought one that still looks traditional. The twin cooled might be something necessary for the bigger displacement, but I found investing in the fan that fits behind the oil cooler keeps my 107" well below worrisome temps, even on hot days in traffic. I was stoked about the new ones for years, always exciting. Not so much anymore. But having said that, I hope they sell a gob of 'em!!
I feel the same too, we just get to point where it's how much power are we really gonna use. Instead of an insane motor you can spend just as much on suspension and honestly you'll get more enjoyment out of that. Suspension is so overlooked and under appreciated.
What brand is that supplemental oil cooler fan? Would like to see one.
You can only go so fast and be practical on the road and twisties. Chasing torque and HP is fine if that’s what one chooses. HD should concentrate on details and improving the product. ie Newer Heritage bags are too small and leak. And what focus group said buyers today want those silly stud type markings on the seat and bags. Most don’t. And the brakes aren’t Brembo or that good to stop 728 lbs.
The dumb thing is the twin cooled bikes ran hotter. (At least the old models) and now the oil cooler is gone on the way of a radiator.
The original twin cooled twin cam did run hot, it wasn't much difference other than what you felt as the rider heat wise. They are slowly easing the buyers into full water cooling in the coming years.
@GixxerFoo not surprised but I'll take water cooled over electric any day.
I do not care about power I just want the same sound as my 110 I love the sound but I don’t have it any more I’m looking into buying another one but don’t like the way the M8 sounds so that being said 🤔🤔🤔🤔I just might get a used 110
The m8 doesn't sound like a harley. Unfortunately you have to change the cam to get that old harley sound.
@@fq7879 oh ?? So changing the cam will bring that old sound back ???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I need to hear one already done so I’ll be more interested in an M8 !! Thank you for that information!!!
Harley is expensive, but so is everyone else!
Too bad you can't get one in raw steel with only a clear coat (no paint)
Still WAY too expensive. Come on 30K…really.
They might be cheaper with a little more power but your friends will see you on one. Haha.
I traded my high mileage 2005 Twin Cam in for a first year M8 in late 2016. I usually don't buy a first year anything but I took a chance and have been very lucky. They haven't worked all the bugs out of that Skyline OS yet and I snuck by paying for the dealer mark-up nonsense last time, so I'm good for a few more years. Maybe this body style will grow on me by then.
Skyline OS, my first thought was SkyNet 😄
@GixxerFoo Yikes! Maybe I'll hold off to upgrade til 2030 LoL 😆
Price drop = they are not selling many