Dash Cam Saves Citizen From Lying Officer
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Longtime fan of this channel, but this video stands out as very unusual for you. Where in the video does an officer lie? Can you point to a timestamp? Why do you claim that Mr. Ortiz "maintained a calm and collected demeanor" when he responded to an officer who calmly (and, according to you, correctly) states "I'm just letting you know what the vehicle and traffic law is" with "No no no no no no...." Mr. Ortiz maintains a needlessly argumentative tone throughout the encounter, denying things that, as far as I can tell, are never alleged by anybody, while the officers not only politely assist with his request to file a complaint but also take the extraordinarily courteous step of speaking with his *mother over the phone*! Where's the "lying officer" and how did Mr. Ortiz get "saved" by his dash cam? As far as I can tell, the video's title is false and defamatory.
Yelling at him for "abusing his horn" while they were guilty of "Obstruction of Traffic" is the epitome of cop arrogance.
Let's not forget NYPD have been known to stop traffic to catch motorcycles lane splitting... Also known as lane-sharing. These cops were well across the line and sharing a lane.
He was talking pretty strongly, but I don't know if that was yelling. Officers talk in stern tones, and they can be mistaken for yelling. Both of the guys were kinda loud, and that may have been because they were in the middle of traffic talking between two cars.
I don't think people recognize that some people just have strong voices.
@@jarrettharper8313 Stop with the pedantics, the word "yelling" has multiple meanings. I was not referring to "raised voices" . . .
He wasn’t yelling
@@yungheat84 SMH . . . Just stop trying to lecture English 101, "yelling" has MULTIPLE connotations, figure it out.
I believe everyone here knows the reason he pulled him over is because he "dared" to talk back to a police officer.
Yeah, but the whole stop could be avoided if the driver had just said "Ok" when the cop told him the law.
I'm not saying the cops weren't in the wrong, I just like to avoid making talks with the cops *ANY LONGER* than they have to be.
It's New York... Of course the cop has a massive ego he needs to flex. Pathetic cop. I support police but not the ones using their ego to harass citizens...
@@NathanTeaches whole stop could’ve been avoided if the officers weren’t blocking traffic...or didn’t pull over to accost the driver...or if he just ended the conversation by driving away...or a million other things. The cops have all the discretion here. We need not point at the one mistake the driver made and use it as justification.
Yeah and it sucks, the advice AtA has is that people should resist the urge to be honest because cops are such dishonest and petty people...
And to get his name as a way to intimidate him. Like saying, look I know your name, and where you and your family sleep at. Cop should lose his badge IMO. He not only continually escalated the situation with the respectful citizen, but lied about his actions and also did the classic pull over in retaliation move. Bet he's the type to pocket money and plant drugs on people too. I mean, who's to say where he draws the line. Clearly doing all this even after being told he was being recorded didn't even phase him. So he must be hella currupt.
"He's got it recorded, so I got no reason to lie to him." Oh, but if the civvie wasn't recording, you'd have a reason to lie about it. Thanks, NYPD.
muricaaaa^^
Yet, they did lie.
Except he DID lie, and he didn't it on the recording. The officer said the driver didn't stop honking, when he did.
Who else feels if the man had not called his mother who is an officer that this would have escalated a lot more?
Hella!
Oh yes!
And his mother gave him good advice - to shut up.
Without a doubt
Oh yes definitely 💯
You can't honk your horn just because you're annoyed, but as a cop, you can apparently initiate a traffic stop just because you're annoyed. Yeah?
Gotta uphold that law 😂
That cop was upholding the law so hard 😂
Cops also get to cruise 10+ over the speed limit just because, run red lights just because, and forgo turn signals... just because!
Cops on some kind of undercover operation too. Guy: *honks horn*. Cops: *blow their own cover, abandon their undercover operation so they can throw their weight around against some guy who annoyed them*. Thank god for cops saving us citizens from scary car horns 🫡
muricaa^^
@@realBorisLegasov Right? Imagine if they were following some guy leading them back to a human trafficking front. It’s sad that that’s not even too crazy of an idea, there’s so many videos of American cops letting someone who’s actually breaking the law go just to defend their egos to random driver and blamed them for why the guy got away lol
I'm sorry if an officer lies they automatically get an F in my book just saying
Where in this video does an officer lie? I might have missed it. Can you point to a particular timestamp?
@ When he claims the driver did not stop honking as soon as he turned on his lights.
@ 12:40 sums it up pretty well
This is also a RULE that I follow for ANYONE that lies. 👍
Yup
How is it that 2 drivers talking to each through their car windows WHILE driving is NOT unsafe? If 2 citizens were doing this, they would certainly be ticketed. Honking your horn is legally justified in this situation.
Could argue they were distracted driving and as such a danger on the road.
It was not. Him honking in this situations was unnecessary. Sure I do not agree what cops did after they scolded him but I would side with the cops on what they said about using the signal.
In EU and the reason i side with this statement is that tons of new drivers get mentally pushed on the road because they are thinking before they act while more veteran drivers find it annoying that the newbie taking their time on the road. So what happens the inpatient driver honks at the newbie, the newbie thinking he/she doing something wrong accelerates and hits another car or what not. In this case if its recorded the honking car will be liable for the damages done and arguing in the court that the car behind honked and the newbie got stressed is more than enough to get out Scot-Free.
Again going slow is NOT an argument to honk. You never know what is happening in the car in front of you. A light tap MAYBE.
@@chiter200They weren't "going slow" they were STOPPED and blocking traffic. That statute may be on the books but do you think it's really enforced? Have you been to New York, every drive lays on the horn.
@@albertmata342 watch the video again. nerd. they were rolling the whole time he was on the horn. how you define things is irrelevant. you are not correct.
@@chiter200 there is a danger of a crash there. If these officers stop traffic, he may be rear ended.
/shrug
A NY cop telling a New Yorker not to use the horn. That's like telling a fish not to breathe water.🤣🤣🤣
"You're free to write a complaint", because they'll never face repercussions.
Your free to come down to the station and say your complaint to an officer who I promise will 100% dictate what you say into a formal form when you leave. Pinky promise.
The officers at the station will deem it unnecessary and arrest the guy for disturbing the police. Watch all the videos of people trying to file complaints and getting arrested/written tickets.
Thats why you get a copy when you file it.
*It depends. Something like this, no, the CCRB could care less. On the other hand, when I was still a NYC resident in the early80's, a friend of mine was a cop there, and when he got off duty he walked up on a little shit late teen holding his mother at knifepoint. He took it away by going hans on (which is fully authorized under NYPD rules), and the little shit filed a complaint of excessive force - the CCRB upheld it! Like with Democrats everywhere, if you are a criminal, you're good to go, otherwise, don't bother and **_know your place_** when dealing with their police!*
*The NYPD earns their hate, every single day.*
@@measl Like Democrats everywhere? Oh lordy. Ah yes, the POLICE, well known for their support of the Democratic party. Utter bullshit.
Officer immediately acted like an asshole. He absolutely unnecessarily escalated this situation well beyond what was appropriate. This is text book power tripping.
It's NYC. They fancy themselves as a gang and aren't afraid to tell you.
Yeah, I kinda wish Audit was my teacher, because if he gave those cops a C-, then I could've gotten an A from just showing up to class
He could have acted like a rational human being and said to himself "you know what, we're blocking both car lanes, lets just pull over".
Welcome to NYC.
@@useddentalfloss2484 I feel like BOTH of them were on power trips. The Spanish guy just had the benefit of being right lmao.
I love the fact the guy called his mom to tell on the other officers.
if it works it works!
My Mommy is a cop and I'm telling on you.
Absolutely LOVE it! The power a mother possesses ❤
And she immediately told him to stop talking bc she knows better than anyone how they’re ALL POS, even her.
I love how he's "clearly doing an investigation" but had enough time to stop and harras this guy.
Notice how the cops tone toward citizens is condescending, and he speaks to other cops with respect? That’s the problem.
He’s being disrespectful to the guy’s mother!
@@allenthomas182 many people from New York, jersey and eastern pa just sound like that. We’re not being disrespectful.
@@colesisler582 to be fair the existence of people from jersey is less respectful than spiting in a man's face.
@@colesisler582 I mean this in not a mean way (wisconsonite) you guys all sound like dicks. Just like straight up lmao. And I know you're not but damn. Sometimes that accent just sound so blunt and condescending.
Yeah its a big problem. Cops develope a us verses them mentally.
When the cop had his hissy fit and first drove off, he was in a right turn only lane, then went straight ahead, without emergency lights on. So there's a moving violation...
How dare you hold the police to the laws they’re sworn to enforce !!
They're also only supposed to use the lights or siren when responding to an emergency or to detain someone who has broken the law. Not for annoyance.
You already know he would’ve yanked the dude out of the car if that was him doing it
They don’t have to use lights and actually are pretty much exempt from traffic laws. For example If they’re responding to a robbery they arent always going to use their sirens and allow the perp to know they’re coming.
It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.
This is why everyone should have a dash cam.
Geeze, law or not, they took that honk personally just based on their reactions. How fragile is their ego that a beep completely throws them over the edge lol.
He honked his horn legally due to that officer swerving out of his lane to talk to the other unmarked officer. That is a danger.
and blocking traffic
@@handson4580 I agree with you both , police officers get upset if they are ever told anything, they are the only ones able to give orders or make statements of authority
@Uncomfortable Truth the law does not say imminent danger.
@Uncomfortable Truth I don't know. Blocking traffic at night is quite likely creating an imminent danger. Car is coming up on that road won't be expecting vehicles to effectively be parked in the middle of the road
@Uncomfortable Truth It is imminent danger, if the cars behind him aren't alert that this is going on then they can cause an accident.
The most hardcore "I'm gonna tell my mom on you" ever.
@Hh Hh he know who his mother is, weird, but when he said his my mom is in 1pp they slow down pretty quick
@@merengueardiente she’s probably above them that’s probably why they instantly calmed down
Lol if you work in 1pp you're higher then 90% of the officers in the city. She works in police headquarters for NYC. They realized real quick he wasn't gonna just stand down because they got mouthy and ballsy like all cops who's ego got bruised
😂😂😂😂😂💀
The final act is, my dad can beat up your dad
I love the way the whole tone of the conversation changed as soon as he said his mother worked at 1 PP
The mothers only request to her son: “I want you to be quiet.” That advice could save a lot of people a lot of heartache.
Paraphrasing the officer: "The horn is for imminent danger NOT annoyance."
Apparently, this NYPD officer has never been to or lived in New York City.
The horn is not for annoyance but pulling people over is?
😆 right, the whole city sometimes acts like they never been to NY before
Same could be same about him.
I was laughing because I'm like shit boston would need horn police army to keep up here or in NY 🤣🤣
@James Mclean I'm with you. It is fucking dangerous to be way below the speed limit. Nevermind the fact that the car(s) don't even be in their own lane(s). Fire the cops.
Right Ny driver's use their horns more than the blinker.
Cop: You don't honk the horn cause you're annoyed.
Every single NEW YORKER: Since f**kin' when?!?!?!?!
Exactly. It’s similar to a third world country when driving. Everyone on NY honks THIER horn. You’re not a NYker if you don’t.
For real. The sound of horns being honked in NYC is as consistant as the mating call of the brood x cicadas.
Actually you can tickets for unnecessary honking
@@artnos but being that you normally don’t. I doubt this same officer was pulling over other people for their horns, it’s clear he initiated the stop because it was HE who got honked at, not that the driver was honking.
@@artnos You can get a ticket in Arizona ... for having a donkey sleep in a bathtub.
My biggest issue with this episode is learning that it's illegal to even tap your horn to notify the driver in front of you that they should take a short break from TikTok because the light has turned green.
Im not a lawyer or anything, but I think there’s a pretty good argument that any time someone is focusing on stuff other than driving and the other cars around them represents imminent danger.
@@samsprague3158 Car at the head of a line that isn't moving is "imminent danger?" Your claim of not being a lawyer checks out.
@@broheme8922 yes it is. it's a natural reaction to move when a light changes and if a car does not do so it presents danger. it can cause an accident 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@GuidoLuzzi So reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
P.S. Love your signature.
@@broheme8922 I actually am a lawyer. That could easily cause an accident. If a car is coming to an intersection and sees a green which has been holding for a few seconds he could easily become distracted and rear-end the car at the end of the line, which may well have already taken his foot of the brake and started crawling forward. Such a thing happening is unlikely in any one scenario, but given the millions of miles driven daily in this country you get huge aggregate numbers from such low-percentage happenings. Now, would that qualify as "imminent" in a New York court? I've no idea--I'm not licensed there. But it is far from a frivolous argument.
While having your own dashcam may be used against you, the mere fact that you know you have one will probably alter your own behavior, even before an encounter.
Wait.... Cop said to not use a horn in NYC? Isn't that the natural sound of the city?
That is why they try to stop people doing it. It becomes meaningless.
You find me one person in New York City that doesn't use their horn, I'll eat my own hair
@@murraymadness4674 there's a lot of value in using the horn for more than just a collision is about to happen
Imagine how crazy it would be otherwise.
I think the correct interpretation of that statement is "You can't use your horn at them." (the easily bruised ego types with badges)
I mean, the officers blocking him while his smack dab in the middle of an intersection is a perfect example of danger
right. If anyone else was driving like that they would be pulled over and ticketed ASAP
Exactly stopping abruptly in the middle of traffic 🙄 is dangerous and they didn't have any probable cause which the narrator completely skipped over.
It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.
This is what I was thinking
Literally obstructing traffic, that's a safety violation you can be cited for.
Every encounter I had with NYPD cops was always aggressive in the way they talk to you, they don't let you talk or they talk over you, even one told me I should address him as SIR. I said to him, I only address older men as SIR and I could be your father.
Their attitude changed when talking to Mom cause they don't know how high on rank can she be. And that basically save him from a ticket or several.
Regardless of whose right or wrong I save headaches like this one by biting my tongue and just waiting the extra couple of seconds then moving on
So the officers were driving at 20mph and talking between cars. That in itself is unsafe operation of a motor vehicle.
Nothing to see here. You honked your horn, clearly a more serious offense. 🤦🏻♂️
It was from a red light so it’s not that unsafe, it would be hard to legally argue that they were accelerating too slow especially in streets like those. They were in the wrong for doing that, but not as legally sure-fire law breaking as what Ortiz did, even if what he did was less unsafe
The driver could have said that he honked the horn to get the attention of the slow cars and ensure the safety of the cars in front of him.
@@Christophero I see what you’re saying but at the same time the one car kinda swerved at the other so maybe he beeped to try and prevent a minor accident. Also it’s the 21st century, why couldn’t they have just called the other officer to relay the information they claimed they were talking about instead of going slow and swerving down the road?
@@Christophero one of them was also driving in TWO lanes which IS illegal...
Cop logic: You cannot honk at us when you're annoyed with us, but we can perform a retaliatory traffic stop when we're annoyed with you.
Some of these cops let their emotions get in the way a lot and its very upsetting
Even the NYPD straighten up when Mom is on the line.
Officer: “Your horn is only used for when there is immediate danger, not out of annoyance!”
*Continues to pull over him out of annoyance*
Ditto
In his defence, he couldn’t used the horn. Left him no other option.
That's so subjective! Who needs to be in danger? What's the threshold of annoyance? Possible situation: pregnant wife in back about to give birth becomes the one in imminent danger rendering a honk for recklessly impeding traffic.
Thought this was america you can't honk your horn just for the sake of honking it? You gotta be in danger now?? What about every driver ever who's been sticking in rush hour traffic? What if he's just testing his horn? The average citizen isn't dumb we know some of the things that cops say are lies because of these mind games they play with you but since their the police we just have to believe them
@@alphinmesa9945 Yep a million drivers in NYC must use their horns every day with abandon and these two thin skinned jack holes wanna play herr Brown Shirt. Unbelievable.
I'd definitely argue that blocking the traffic IS IN FACT creating an imminent danger and circumstances for a traffic accident.
I agree especially since their reason for doing so was they were talking out the window to each other about this "investigation" I'm pretty sure that's why they have radios and cell phones. They don't get to block multiple lanes talking to each other through the window.
Right they legit admitted they were blocking the road to chat
it absolutely is
Good point. Why does ATA never brought this up?
Yeah but it'll help your case if you remain silent and argue in court if it escalates. Let the video do the talking.
When you're heated anything comes out of your mouth. One might even blurt, "I honked because you're dumb".
I've been to NYC exactly once. While I was there, we were the second car stopped at a red light. There was no room for the car in front of us to go even if the light was green. None of that stopped the guy in the car behind us from leaning on his horn. In my life, I've never seen that level of impatience anywhere else.
I had a cop honk at me and swerve his car towards mine like was going to wreck because I was going 57 in a 55, and I was keeping up with the traffic I was traveling in. Now these freeways have been increased to 65, in town, and everyone goes at least 80. I've had people drive up my tailpipe! I don't feel comfortable going 95 with everyone getting on and off every mile there's the major streets.
"danger". Doesn't two cars moving basically 0 miles per hour blocking the road *without any sort of safety lighting* seem to be a reasonable definition of "danger"?
Yes. How does ATA not go with this angle? It makes much more sense. Cars sitting in traffic not moving is a danger. A car sitting at a great light is a danger. You're allowed to fucking honk.
Under VTL Section 1181 (a), “No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.”
Not only that, but they are moving driving in between the lanes like they own the road. The guy on the right is halfway into his partner's lane and the guy on the left is driving on the yellow line
They looked like they were getting ready to race lol
even more so imagine someone not paying and enough attention and slamming in his car cause he assume the cars are moving cause you know, its green.
My dude is extremely level headed, the officers ego is out of control.
UC's most likely divorced and can't get laid.
@@27613James honestly yeah that sounds like it’s 100 percent accurate
Yea but how old is the guy and why is he calling his mommy?
@@Ron898 you might wanna open ur eyes, unclog those ears of yours, pay attention to the video. It is clear why he calls his “mommy” stop being a prick
@@NorthernLightsGaming I know shes a cop but I cant figure out why he called, I think it was to try to get out of a ticket but that'd be dumb because I doubt that works for extended family
The 2 unmarked cars we’re driving over the ghost line which could cause an accident. A honk would be necessary at that point.
I can think of a million ways all this altercation could’ve been resolved with less than a minute polite conversation.
If he's willing to lie for something as petty as this, imagine what that cop does when he's writing a report with conflict.
This video would make great evidence in a courtroom to discredit this cop’s testimony involved in any future cases.
Now imagine how many cops sit in private together and plan how they can manufacture a situation that could justify killing another human.
@@johnhiggs5932 ya your movie like dreams ain't never coming true .... the court will do absolutely no such thing.
@@harrypot3381
If a cop lies and gives you a ticket, and you don’t tell them that you have it on video. If you go to court and the cop shows up to perjury himself, and only then show the video, then he can get into some real trouble.
@@roems6396 I thought I any recording is taken without informing the person such things are not admissible in court
It’s kinda disgusting that even having a relative gives you a different edge to police, they clearly show their gang colours more than actual gangs
You think if his mom wasn't a cop they would of acted differently?
@@nyce6113 100% lmao
Yeah they started acting less aggressive after he named his mom as a cop,
@@nyce6113 yes
@@alang4190 that's just sad, true but sad
Great video that explains why the right to remain silent is important
That tone switch when the mom comes on the phone!!
And the mom's (a senior cop) first line of advice is to stop talking, be silent!
This is one of the very educational videos on this channel.
"I'm in the middle of a big important investigation so I'm drpping that to waste 30 minutes over a citizen honking us"
Also, they are unmarked vehicles apparently working a case and they lit up the whole street and let everyone know they were there because of a honk...🤔
Super important until their ego is on the line.
@@jeffdredd1172 haaaaa I didn't even think of that. Just crap 'policing' across tbe board
We should either build a wall around California and New York City, or chisel them off from the mainland and send them off to sea. Merge them into an island.
Dikheads.
This man really asked “How am I being discourteous?” in a discourteous tone
That's "cop-logic"..."We dish it out shit, but Fck no, we don't take any shhit, here's my gun and badge that says so"
Cops see themselves as superior beings so they think treating people like shit isn't being discourteous
im not racist. I have a black friend
@@maxlee6676 lmaooooo
@john juice haaaa so funny because I was just about to write this comment and I saw yours. Similar to what you said while he was screaming in a horrible tone and being very aggressive asking that question. I don't know what it is but when they become a cop they just become so angry.
Cops are blocking traffic, talking out their windows to each other, and one is over the lane divider. Looks extremely unsafe to me
So glad to see you blew up. One of my favorite channels
Two cars blocking an active roadway seems like imminent danger in my book.
Those same cops would give anyone else a ticket for blocking traffic like that
yea they're so busy looking out for the perp they claim to be searching for while sitting next to each other slowing down all traffic and then act all petty pulling him over for honking at them
Joker - I would be afraid to get hit from behind on a dark street.
I’d say that two cars completely blocking all lanes of traffic is a danger to the other drivers on the road
I'd say those two individuals are a danger to others just in general.
Precisely.
Don't forget it's also at night
That's an excellent argument to bring up if this goes to court. It's generally useless to point this out to the police officer who is berating you for honking though, hence the point about staying silent. ANYTHING you say to a cop on the street is more likely to be used against you than accepted as justification for your actions. If you think a stop is unjust and you have evidence to prove it, just accept the ticket and bring your evidence to court. Or if there isn't any ticket, make a complaint, but be aware that your complaint is likely to be dismissed no matter how justified it is and how good the evidence you provide to support it.
@@rodh1404 the court room was made for a reason
Honking and blinkers are the only 2 ways to communicate in traffic (I'm not counting gestures because you have to be talking distance to use them).
“Keep your hands on the wheel”. “License and registration”.
The two officer’s tone tell a lot about their attitudes, egos, cockiness, shrewdness, etc... They are the reason the public mistrusts them. These officers have integrated a policing style with total disregard of the oath they took. They should not be wearing badges. They are more like lawless crooks.
Well they are New Yorkers. I immediately thought tone as well, but this is a pretty standard tone out in that area.
Exactly my thoughts.
The criminals became smarter. If you cant beat the cops, become the cops!
Indeed but when they get punch In the face, Stab, shot or get call out outside their house or gym they walk away and are a different person. Especially when it comes to a lawsuit and they pretend to be innocent and were doing their jobs.
When police officers routinely "investigate ourselves and find nothing wrong", and police unions defend police officer actions regardless of the right or wrong of those actions, it's inevitable you'll get situations like this. And Qualified Immunity only makes that bad situation even worse. Police Officers should be held up as an example of how to obey the laws and behave in public, but if everyone got out of their car and berated anyone who honks at them for creating an obstruction, there would hardly be a reason to drive a car in NYC.
How much "investigating" were these clowns doing if they both had time to pull this guy over and argue about the horn??🤥
None. They were lying.
Exactly what I was thinking.
@@mrbmp09 - It's like when officers claim that someone is interfering with an investigation, while they're filming 25 plus feet away. One or more officers leave the suspect to order the person recording to move back, stop recording, or leave the area completely.
Stop resisting!
Dude gets an F in the first place for honking his horn bruh
This videos is at least a year old. Love this channel and I'm subscribed, but would love to see updates added to these after the incidents are completed.
It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.
Exactly, their whole tone changed after talking to her
Honking at a slow moving vehicle is a warning, as it could result in imminent collision
Especially with vehicles behind you.
Cops can give tickets to drivers not driving fast enough because they are a danger. That it the EXACT reason for the law. Yet honking at someone causing dangerous condition with too low a speed it an offence. SMH. There is a ticket for EVERYTHING.
@@matthewgiangarra3535 all BS laws so they can make "fake" but legit reasons to search minorities,
@@shekharmoona544 which is every minute of every day.
Imagine prosecutors making a whole case in court over someone using a car horn
@AuditTheAudit Could it not be argued that the blocking of traffic the cops were doing was a hazard and as such the use of the horn was legal?
Looool “you can’t use the horn unless there’s about to be a crash”... said by a NEW YORK police officer?? Did he just move there?!
just because you dont know the laws doesnt mean they dont effect you.
@@lordvika2526 umm people in New York honk all the damn times and cops don’t do pull everyone over for honking that’s what he means you obviously have never been to New York
I feel like a very New York phrase is apt: the officer was obviously mad up in his feelings
@Dan Bruv I grew up in NYC and lived their for over 30 years. I know exactly how NYC works.
And i know in NYC cops over look the minor things that goes on because they dont have the man power to cover it all.
But that doesnt change the fact that in NYC you can't honk your horn unless it is an emergency. Just because the police dont always enforce it doesnt mean that it isnt against the law.
@@OJdidit93905 I know what it meant....but thats just people who dont know the laws.
I grew up in NYC and lived their for close to 40 years, I know that NYC police dont enforce the minor laws because they dont have the man power to do that.
It still doesnt change the fact that its against the law and the police can enforce it if they want to. Just like jay walking ( crossing the street outside of a cross walk ) 99% of the times police dont enforce it but they can if they want to
I am generally a pretty "back the blue" kind of guy. But this channel has me rethinking that position more and more.
You should check out james freeman great auditer
You should never blindly support anyone
@@pfclex6737 this
It’s annoying tho it’s either completely fuck the police or the police are angels and can’t do anything wrong. There’s nothing in the middle
@@pfclex6737 fractal statement.. good job
It’s probably different where I live but in my driving lessons my instructor said if you don’t honk atleast once a day you are driving unsafe. He honks when backing out of parking spaces to alert pedestrians and drivers
Yeah, it's common practice where I live to honk when exiting an alley or parking garage especially when it's a very blind corner. If someone is distracted and not going on a green light, I think that warrants a honk. Like, I've never looked up the honking laws, but it's the only way to really communicate with other drivers so... if someone honks unnecessarily, just ignore it like everyone else. It's not hurting anyone
If you're not in a legitimate police car, I'm not stopping. How do I not know you're an impersonator?
When he honked his horn he was in an intersection, prevented from going forward. That could be a potentially dangerous situation.
Them: Block the flow of traffic to talk to each other.
Citizen: Honk because of their unlawful behaviour.
Them: Surprised pikachu face
Absolutely. The absence of the term "imminence" in the actual law is important as well. Even in a case NOT in an intersection, but on a regular roadway, blocking traffic presents a danger to the vehicle obstructing traffic as well as other motorists. Any cop would certainly say as much if they happened upon a random motorist doing this.
Dude could've gotten creamed by a semi.
@@JaneDoe12573 , 😂. Semi in downtown NYC. Most are not allowed in the inner city like that. I didn’t say all, I said most.
@@southeastflnn5839 , most...so there’s some, right? Idiot.
I counted the cop being sarcastic 5 times, interupting him 9 times, lying atleast 3 times, and yelling at him 4 times. There is no reason for a police officer to act that toxic twoards another person for just honking their horn. This dude has no right to wear the badge. He should be put on probation and forced to take anger management classes.
Big head, big mouth, garbed in civvies. Readiness to blow cover at the drop of percieved query to their buffoonery.
Sounds like a "C-" huh? 🙄
they are new yawkers. they cant be anything other than toxic
Cops have such a disgusting sense of pride and it’s gotta be fixed
LOL I drive on Ocean Ave. almost every day and there’s always someone honking, usually because there’s a car cutting into the left lane to avoid a double Parker.
this was def an F. he was stopped as retribution for the horn
COP, “I can interrupt you, but you can’t interrupt me!”
Just let the cop interrupt and never give him another chance to interrupt by remaining silent. If the cop likes to hear himself that much let him.
Driver to his mom: "Once they showed their lights I stopped honking the horn."
Cop (interrupting): "No you didn't."
Driver shrugs, turns camera...
Cop (dismissively): "I'm not arguing with you."
These ego filled cops had to stop their "investigation " and let this citizen know who's boss.
It's NOT them, assuredly.
Camera busted their sorry butts.
Where's the disconnect with the public 🤔? Oh here it is!
I think they were investigating traffic stops. Honestly it seemed like they were phising for people to react to their illegal traffic behavior.
@@PinkBunnyCorporation
No. They were speaking off radio. Probably plotting something illegal like divvying up the extortion bag.
OMG , the ego of those 2 cops is just ridiculous . Thank gd for video.
And they always wonder why there is a major disconnect
The cops driving slowly basically forced Mr. Ortiz to block the intersection, which I think creates an imminent danger of collision.
There's always an imminent danger with vehicles
@@blackalgorithmist000 that's funny, and true. But thats actually a REALLY good defense if they would have given him a ticket or charged him for this. It would have been instantly dropped most likely. Especially with this dashcam video
it's definitely a continuous hazard, but sadly that isn't what "imminent" means. Imminent is more like "I'm about to be hit or about to hit you if no action is taken.
@@krugerstan Then it becomes subjective on how much time needs to be allowed for action to be taken. I feel like if I'm waiting to be "imminently" hit before I blow the horn, then there's not going to be enough time for the cars to move before I am hit.
@@jessodum3103 I don't think it's very subjective. Most of us can look at a given situation and will agree on whether or not a danger is imminent, and most of us would agree that there was no imminent danger in this clip. That said, I'm not really disagreeing with you re: the way it ought to be - I think the law as stated is a bit silly/restrictive, and honking at a hazardous douchebag is highly appropriate in my opinion
However, our personal opinions on when it is appropriate to honk won't really change the way courts will interpret the word "imminent," right? The police will win that one every time.
They were blocking traffic which might have resulted in Mr. Ortiz's car getting rear-ended. There's your 'danger' for you.
Exactly
This is one of the clearest examples of a cop trying to intimidate someone. If it wasn't for the camera and his mom being a cop I guarantee they would have made up a reason to arrest him. Even with the camera and knowing his mom was a cop the cops lied. If they are willing to lie on camera to a cop, after blocking traffic in unmarked cars that easily can be mistaken for gang vehicles used in drive by shootings, they surely do far worse off camera.
Always seek legal action
I love how being related to an NYPD officer gets you a different level of "service" from other NYPD officers. If that isn't corruption, I don't know what is.
exactly! Just reinforces staying away from NYC.
Don't spend your hard earned dollars where the taxes go towards supporting these tyrants.
@@mikesmith1181 Absolutely. I live in CT and used to love going to the city 15-25 years ago. Now? I only pass through if I have too these days. It's become the nations biggest sh*thole again!
Well be in the club if not then don't get mad cause your not. I'm not I get pulled over I'm respectful but I'm also not going to let someone put hands on me either which I always let them know I am highly trained and ready for engagement should things get out of hand. I haven't had any issues so far 🤷 but I suppose the everyone should be treated equal makes sense to. Although everyone's opinion and service to community isn't so I do think some people should matter more than others.
@@santoscarrillo2996 holy s*** your comment is pure cringe
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Isn't impeding traffic considered imminent danger? Horn was valid to warn other drivers of the pork blocking the road.
Ya especially heading through a intersection...
I don't think this assumption is correct given the video recording and the drivers statement he was not using the horn to avoid danger
@@raymonko Regardless it is correct use of a horn. Impeding traffic is dangerous.
@@raymonko think he means when justifying the use of the horn in court
Yes it is, that's what makes this entire thing funny af
“Hey, my mommy is in the club, can I get her immunity?”
Cop: “Sure! Laws and harassment are for the peasants. Not for us Gods!”
😂
SERIOUSLY. Years ago a friend of mine was in a car accident with a drunk driver. The driver was CLEARLY drunk but was sent home because he was related to a cop. NYPD (especially those on Staten Island) are a legally protected gang.
Or maybe your friend was the one who caused it haha, I don't support corruption but that sounds not legitamite, wheres the fight against the officer? @@granpappy77
When you stop in the middle of the road, that CREATES imminent danger of collision.
They took time to pull him over apparently they weren’t busy on a case.
Great point
bruh yeah what lmao
Seriously. They pulled him over out of pure ego. Just had to reprimand and berate him because god forbid anyone not bow to them. They just had to show their power over him.
He honked his horn because of the dangers involved in blocking traffic on a busy road.
Patience is a virtue.
If only i could explain every difficult situation i was involved in, in the way you give your little summary and judgement on the end of your videos, life would be awesome
I'm pretty sure blocking traffic constitutes an imminent threat to people's safety and improper operation of the vehicle. Also, ladies and gentlemen of NY: your taxpayer money hard at work lol.
Yup! Driving slowly can easily cause a crash
@@awrebyawe This is a serious issue, especially in heavy traffic or on highways (ie higher traffic speeds generally).
The officers should have received an "F". They were likely breaking the law when they were blocking the roadway. Then they tried to cite a civilian when they were the ones who broke the law.
Yes a F the stop was due to upset egos and retaliation. They wanted to write a ticket but realized the camera recording and didn’t. There was no need for the stop the 1st brief talk with the cops was all that was needed.
They were both impeding traffic. They were both sharing a lane. The car on the right went straight in a right turn only lane. They again impeded traffic to discuss the traffic law, prior to pulling him over.
Yeah, they collectively had a minimum of 6 traffic violations before pulling him over for his 1 violation - if it was a violation.
He's gotta reserve that for when they pull someone out and beat them claiming they "resisted." The bar is super low, so the grade curve is messed up.
I want to agree but there are some officers so terrible that I think we need to reserve the F for those cases, just so it doesn't lose meaning
@@ufffd nah. If you do that then you're losing track of just how many cops actually earned the F
6:32 as soon as he realizes they're cops and says "oh my god", the man on the radio finishes the sentence saying "I'm on the wrong side of CZcams"
No buddy, you were on the wrong side of the blue line
I’ve spent a lot of time in NY. Everybody blows their horns
"Just let it be"
Proceeds to pull him over to argue about a horn further
ikr
Lolol
😂🤣😂
I love how when the cop tried to explain to the Mom how the honking of the horn was a violation, Mom said, "Oh, okay -- we'll go ahead with the CCRB complaint." Within 30 seconds she had had enough of the cop's b.s.
She knew it was true, and that's why she told her son to calm down, because if the cop wanted to he could have put the guy in court and won the case. After she heard that, she realized there was no point in arguing. It was just a matter of calming her son down so he didn't get in further trouble.
@@jarrettharper8313 No, the honk was justified
this is wild, i live in nyc and everyone honks all the time all day and night for any reason.
A year later, it's infuriating to watch, which tells you that it was a terrible way to act while calling yourself a decent human being!
That stop was all about ego and intimidation tactics. This is the kind of stuff that makes people distrust police
“Keep your hands there, license and registration.” -Just follow instructions and yOu’LL bE FiNe
that scared me a bit, thought this would turn into a killer cop vid
That always makes me cringe
Ikr?
He was reaching for a gun!
Too scary cause your never fine.......
3:26 I would have said “oh I thought you were in danger maybe eh?” Lol.
This was a GREAT video. One! The cop TRIED to be a DHICK until he found out it was a video AND his moms a detective. Then homie talked HELLA nice to his moms. I really enjoyed this. Bc that cop was EXTRA.
If that is the NY ordinance, why aren't there hundreds (if not thousands) of tickets issued to NY City residents every single day then?
its really an underutilized police funding tool
I'm so confused by this "law". Am I committing a violation when I honk the horn to let someone know I'm out front waiting for them?
@@snerdterguson Actually? Yes. Not that it's ever really enforced.
Maybe because they don't know that it caries a $350.00 fine?
Mom always Mom!....
If 2 cops wanna discuss details of an investigation while driving in 2 separate cars pulling TF OVER is common sense
Or, you know, use the radios that are in the cars to talk to each other.
Anyone else doing that would get pulled over and given a ticket.
bro can you do an update compilation?! I would watch every second!