Let's repair a Socket 7 mainboard: Biostar MB-8500TVX-A

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
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Komentáře • 97

  • @SaltyMeatHook
    @SaltyMeatHook Před 21 dnem +18

    "Which torture I have in mind for this board."
    Dude has methods.

  • @djdano2k
    @djdano2k Před 21 dnem +28

    Great repair & rescue! Loved the close-up operation on the broken chip, very interesting! Thanks for all the information.

  • @oscrthgrch7
    @oscrthgrch7 Před 21 dnem +19

    Your soldering skills inspire me to get better. I had one of these (though a different revision; from images online it seems to have been a Rev 2.1) and I used a 200 MHz Evergreen Winchip upgrade CPU. Later on I tried a 450 MHz K6-2 (6x66=400) and I used it for a while that way. Blissfully ignorant of the issues with linear voltage regulators, one hot summer evening I heard a loud pop, and the board was dead. I had no idea why at the time, but years later I found out about how linear regulators heat up when run outside of their design specifications and I realized why the board died.

    • @oscrthgrch7
      @oscrthgrch7 Před 21 dnem +10

      This was in early 2001 and I knew little about computers at the time. When I bought the Evergreen upgrade CPU, the board wouldn't POST with it. Though I had purchased it on Ebay, I sent Evergreen an email, and they answered me right away, recommending a BIOS update. I tried updating it to the latest BIOS Biostar offered, but it still wouldn't POST. They then sent me a BIOS as an email attachment, and that one worked. That happy moment when you hit the power switch and hear the POST beep!

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +7

      Yes, one day we all learned this in the one way or another :)

  • @WarPhotographer1974
    @WarPhotographer1974 Před 19 dny +1

    I worked on a mom and pop computer shop in the late 90’s, and I built so many computers using that motherboard. Good memories 😊

  • @the1990kman
    @the1990kman Před 20 dny +2

    I never thought it was possible to repair broken ic chips like that. Great work!

  • @Stratotank3r
    @Stratotank3r Před 21 dnem +10

    Bester Mann um Boards zu retten! Good job as always.

  • @MrVipeg
    @MrVipeg Před 21 dnem +4

    Great repair video! Exactly as we all like. Thank you.

  • @tennickjestzajety69
    @tennickjestzajety69 Před 21 dnem +6

    One of my favorite repairs channel uploaded a video again!

  • @smartperson1
    @smartperson1 Před 20 dny +1

    I've never seen anyone cut into a package like that wow! You're a real necromancer!

  • @badrolix
    @badrolix Před 21 dnem +11

    You are one of the best!

  • @LeeMc007
    @LeeMc007 Před 20 dny +1

    Excellent repair again, love your channel, your knowledge and skills are just brilliant.

  • @danielpetrov9179
    @danielpetrov9179 Před 21 dnem +4

    Another great restoration video. I have the same board with some missing components, can you please tell me the values of CT28, CT29, CT20, CT13 and what RAM TAG do you use?

  • @marceloaug
    @marceloaug Před 21 dnem +3

    I am really impressed with your skills in reparing the controller chip. Awesome work. Greetings from Brazil.

  • @JosepsGSX
    @JosepsGSX Před 21 dnem +1

    I will be waiting for the next one, as you indeed have my curiosity about the test. Thanks for sharing!

  • @pavelfara9333
    @pavelfara9333 Před 17 dny

    There is one interesting thing about this board. It has 2x PS/2 port which is quite nice feature for a retro build!

  • @bundesautobahn7
    @bundesautobahn7 Před 21 dnem +2

    Ein weiterer Tag, eine weitere Hauptplatine auf dem OP-Tisch.

  • @edmil1616
    @edmil1616 Před 21 dnem +1

    Excellent board repair! A masterful work! Congratulations from Brazil.

  • @curtisator42
    @curtisator42 Před 21 dnem +2

    Theres a newer version of Phil's benchmarking suite that includes a Doom bench that's been modified to give you FPS results so you dont have to do the conversion yourself. :)

  • @glitchwrks
    @glitchwrks Před 21 dnem +1

    Nice save! I had to dig out four pins in a Voodoo2 FBI that had broken off flush with the package a few months ago. I usually seal those repairs with some two-part epoxy.

  • @Raul_Gajadhar
    @Raul_Gajadhar Před 21 dnem +1

    ❤Fantastic job! You should use some epoxy on that repair though, moisture/corrosion may work its way up the legs of exposed pins all the way into the chip.

  • @teknologyguy5638
    @teknologyguy5638 Před 21 dnem

    Hope to see what is in store for part 2

  • @Luke-rr9po
    @Luke-rr9po Před 20 dny

    Excellent video! I also have this board revision 2.1, needs a new clock chip like all the others. Thanks for another excellent video! 😊

  • @AJComputerServicesUK
    @AJComputerServicesUK Před 21 dnem +1

    Good Video as always: “Mr Necroware!”, I had a pleasant surprise a few days ago, I popped round my Brother’s as I had left some Old Computer Stuff at his about 25 years ago, I’d completely forgot that I’d left a box of Motherboards round there including 286, 386, 486 & Pentium 2, They were all destined for the Car Boot Sale back then and they had been priced at £2 & £3 each except the 486 which had a Price-Tag on of £8 and the P2 was up for £20, I was chuffed to bit discovering my lost Treasure after all those years, 2 of the 386 Motherboards have suffered from leaky Batteries but I think I’ve caught the 1 just in time and the other one doesn’t look too bad, I’ve been on the hunt for a good 486 Motherboard to replace my Poorly 486 that I’ve got here & I can’t believe it actually has a CR2032 Socket installed on the Motherboard, No signs of any Damage so just hope it will drop into my 486 Chassis without any problems, The only negative is that it doesn’t have any VESA Slots, Oh well, It could be worse I suppose! Anthony - Birmingham/UK 🙂🇬🇧

    • @AJComputerServicesUK
      @AJComputerServicesUK Před 21 dnem

      I’ll definitely be uploading Videos of them on here as soon as I get chance! 🙂

  • @FeArhsma21
    @FeArhsma21 Před 21 dnem

    Love this channel thank you for the things that you do. God Bless my friend!

  • @scrap_computing
    @scrap_computing Před 20 dny

    Nice! Great job dremeling the chip :D

  • @CallumRepairs
    @CallumRepairs Před 21 dnem

    Nice repair!

  • @janbeck8269
    @janbeck8269 Před 20 dny

    Thank you for another great video

  • @gherosh
    @gherosh Před 21 dnem

    Great revival video!

  • @bassbustingman
    @bassbustingman Před 20 dny

    nice socket 7 on board hdd /fdd support isa and pci plus ps/2 for mouse and keybord on the board nice

  • @tellyjoossens4186
    @tellyjoossens4186 Před 20 dny +1

    Although you mention it as not very special, these boards were one of the most reliant and quite versatile (and fast) boards at the time and at a very small form factor. At the time, there was a lot of crap on the market. Mostly the big brands computers were less interesting. You were better off owning a clone pc with decent components.

  • @pavelmusiyenko
    @pavelmusiyenko Před 21 dnem +3

    Nice!

  • @Soup_it
    @Soup_it Před 21 dnem

    Thank you!

  • @pwissink1
    @pwissink1 Před 21 dnem

    Good video as always. But I really like the music around 4-5min. Which song is it?

  • @clintcolombin
    @clintcolombin Před 20 dny +1

    Socket a 12885 & add a CR2032 battery holder next to it where it's currently unpopulated? I've seen others do the same with mixed results.

  • @TheChimeraMan
    @TheChimeraMan Před 21 dnem +2

    Fantastic video as usual. I have the same board but is dead. 😢

  • @GameBacardi
    @GameBacardi Před 21 dnem +2

    Coming look this later

  • @pc-sound-legacy
    @pc-sound-legacy Před 21 dnem +1

    Großartig✌️

  • @Hessi
    @Hessi Před 17 dny

    03:30 Eier aus Kruppstahl. Respekt.

  • @dapperwounded
    @dapperwounded Před 21 dnem

    I love your work. I need to find out if any e waste facilities by me sell "functional" bits. I've been trying to find anything i can at rummage sales but nothing good pops up lately.

  • @dirkruppol3850
    @dirkruppol3850 Před 18 dny

    @necroware what type of eeprom reader do you use for reading/writing eeprom modules?

  • @peachgrush
    @peachgrush Před 20 dny

    The working BIOS images seem to have "-F" at the end of their BIOS string (the leftmost column in the table). Wondering if it corresponds to the UMC I/O chip's designation ending with "F" :)

  • @ajax700
    @ajax700 Před 19 dny +1

    9:00 What is that VIA-II chip on the left?
    Best wishes.

  • @dedicatedmusiclistener2301

    you are a repair wizard

  • @LauncherMax
    @LauncherMax Před 21 dnem +2

    Hi Necroware! Great repair as usual!
    I made my own bios for motherboards based on sis 85c496/497 chipset. It can run msdos just on L2 cache without ram at all. Sounds crazy but it works. Ping me if you want to try it

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +1

      Wow, that sounds cool! I'll keep your offer in mind.

  • @glenncaughey5044
    @glenncaughey5044 Před 21 dnem +2

    At 3:42 anyone else instinctively blow on the screen to clear the dust? 😅

  • @nogokam
    @nogokam Před 21 dnem

    In one of your videos you are using hand to find overheated element. Why don't you use a thermal camera? It would be so much easier and much more fun to watch😊

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory Před 18 dny

    To the Iron Maiden with that board!!! LOL

  • @MarkusQu
    @MarkusQu Před 20 dny

    Nice repair! Sadly, no Ami Winbios :)

  • @FOIL_FRESH
    @FOIL_FRESH Před 19 dny

    whats your tool to grind the plastic away near the legs? i have a cheap dremel. i need to repair a voodoo 2 in a similar fashion. 3 chips all with fatal pin leg breaks.

  • @brotherdg1
    @brotherdg1 Před 21 dnem

    Hi! CF may not work in LBA mode. You could try normal CHS

  • @g4z-kb7ct
    @g4z-kb7ct Před 16 dny

    What's the part number on the 28 pin cache tag chip? Thanks.

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 16 dny

      Any 32K SRAM chip would fit, it just has to be fast enough. I tried 15ns, but less would be better.

  • @whalesurfs
    @whalesurfs Před 21 dnem

    The Biostar MB-8500TUC-A is virtually the same board, just with the better i430HX chipset and an extra PCI slot. The only downside compared to your MB-8500TVX-A is that it doesn't support dual-voltage as required by MMX, and as far as I know, no room for a VRM. Ever consider making a VRM like on the one on the PODPMT66X200 ???

  • @AncapDude
    @AncapDude Před 21 dnem

    Which osci do you use?

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +1

      I get this question almost every video :) It's Fnirsi-5012H

    • @AncapDude
      @AncapDude Před 21 dnem

      @@necro_ware I thought so ^^ Make a standard description block with these infos and paste it under every video xD

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 Před 20 dny

    LOL torture for this board.. that is too funny.

  • @FROGGS01
    @FROGGS01 Před 21 dnem +1

    I bet he's attaching an analog clock power by a lemon or two.

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +2

      Everybody knows, that it needs at least three lemons.... and a potato ;)

    • @FROGGS01
      @FROGGS01 Před 18 dny

      ​@@necro_warewould be fun if the next thumbnail picture would actually show lemons. :op

  • @ljrretropcs
    @ljrretropcs Před 21 dnem

    Likely those other bios images would have worked if the tag chip was present

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +2

      Unfortunately no. I didn't mention it in the video, but that was my first assumption as well.

    • @ljrretropcs
      @ljrretropcs Před 20 dny

      @@necro_ware Ahhh thats a shame!

  • @Santia558
    @Santia558 Před 21 dnem

    Your next video will be to install a battery socket, rtc chip, crystal, and capacitor in the existing, but empty pads on the motherboard.

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem

      Almost, let me surprise you ;)

    • @beastworm
      @beastworm Před 20 dny +1

      @@necro_ware @TheParallelPort did this in his last video (second channel of the serial port) Funny enough, he shows your clock in the video

  • @SireSquish
    @SireSquish Před 19 dny

    Cliffhanger?! NOOO

  • @nerdmeister2
    @nerdmeister2 Před 21 dnem

    This mainboard was used in my first PC, a 1996 „network“ branded (Mediamarkt) Pentium 150, 32MB RAM, a slow & noisy 1.6GB Seagate HDD, a 4MB VGA with a weird Cirrus Logic chipset, totally useless for the upcoming 3D games. Spent 1999 DM for this spec sheet blender 😢

  • @rallyscoot
    @rallyscoot Před 21 dnem +1

    You said MSI MB... mainboard on 0:34 seconds? Its a biostar.

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +5

      Yeah, sorry, fixed it later at 6:29. I was fixing two mainboards simultaneously, one was MSI, the other Biostar, so I confused myself.

  • @D4rk4ng3l83
    @D4rk4ng3l83 Před 21 dnem +2

    Der Kanal hat eindeutig zu wenig Abonnenten.
    The channel clearly has too few subscribers.

  • @OscarSommerbo
    @OscarSommerbo Před 21 dnem

    Drillling into an IC was nervewracking to watch.

  • @5mf1nc
    @5mf1nc Před 20 dny

    how that 16000KB memory comes to be? it should be 16384KB (technically KiB but that is so stupid) as that is 16x1024KB (or if they use the "HDD-type KB" then it would be 16777KB) -- oh, later with the 32Megs it counts to 32384KB so where is the missing 384K?

    • @villesyrjala3354
      @villesyrjala3354 Před 20 dny

      I'd assume it's not counting any of the memory in the 640KB-1MB range as that's where the ROMs get mapped.

  • @blackwidowrsa
    @blackwidowrsa Před 21 dnem

    watching you solder makes me disheartened, i can't even desolder a capacitor

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +4

      Don't be disheartened, it's all a question of practice. Keep in mind, that I'm actually a software developer and couldn't solder at all at one point back in time.

  • @scottrich976
    @scottrich976 Před 21 dnem

    Why put so much effort into a mediocre board ? Top of the range maybe, but these boards were bad at the time they came out.

    • @necro_ware
      @necro_ware  Před 21 dnem +6

      Nothing you see on this channel make a lot of sense :) This is just a hobby, however this board gives a good opportunity to experiment with something, what I would like to talk about in the next video.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 Před 21 dnem +5

      Looking at all these old boards, it's all mediocre if we compare it to even slightly newer stuff. If something can be repaired and brought back to life for a new use then it's worthwhile in my opinion.