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  • čas přidán 16. 03. 2020
  • Nebelwerfer - the German rocket artillery from World War 2 - is quite often mentioned, yet at the same time very little is known about them. This video covers the Nebeltruppe (Smoke Troops / Smoke Arm), 15-cm-Nebelwerfer 41, schwere Wurfgerät 40 and 41, Wurfrahmen 40, 28/32-cm Nebelwerfer 41, 21-cm-Nebelwerfer 42, 30-cm-Nebelwerfer 42, Panzerwerfer 42, 30 cm R-Werfer 56, 20 cm Leichter Ladungswerfer and
    38 cm schwerer Ladungswerfer. Besides the general information on the Nebelwerfer themselves.
    15-cm-Nebelwerfer 41 footage recorded during Militracks 2019 at the Overloon War Museum: www.militracks.nl - www.oorlogsmuseum.nl/en/home/
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    » SOURCES «
    BAMA: RH 1/1405: H.Dv. 210/2 (Anhang): Der Nebeldarstellungszug (mot) - Ausbildungvorschrift für die Nebeltruppe. Berlin, 1938.
    BAMA: RH 1/1402: H.Dv. 210/1b: Allgemeine Ausbildung zu Fuß - Ausbildungsvorschrift für die Nebeltruppe. Berlin, 1938.
    BAMA: RH 1/1406: H. Dv. 210/3: Ausbildungsvorschrift für die Nebeltruppe. Schießvorschrift. Vom 4. 11. 1939. „Offene Worte“: Berlin 1939.
    BAMA: RH 1/1403: H.Dv. 210/2d: Die schwere Werferbatterie (mot.) - Ausbildungsvorschrift für die Nebeltruppe. Berlin, 1942.
    BAMA: RH 1/260: OKH: H.Dv. g 92: Handbuch für den Generalstabsdienst im Kriege. Teil II. Reichsdruckerei: Berlin, 1939.
    H.Dv. 119/981: Schußtafel für den 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 mit der 15 cm Wurfgranate 41 Spreng und der 15 cm Wurfgranate 41 Nebel mit Schwarzpulvertreibsätzen. März 1942.
    Emde, Joachim: Die Nebelwerfer. Entwicklung und Einsatz der Werfertruppe im Zweiten Weltkrieg. Podzun-Pallas-Verlag: Dorheim, o.J. (1979?).
    TM-E 30-451: Handbook on German Military Forces. War Department: March 1945.
    TM-E 30-451: Handbook on German Military Forces. War Department: September 1943.
    Wiener, Fritz: Die Nebelwerfer 1939-1945. In: Schirmer, Friedrich (Hrsg.); Wiener, Fritz (Hrsg.): Feldgrau. Heft 3. / 1. Juni 1959. Burgdorf/Han. 1959.
    Catalog of Enemy Ordnance Material (German). Office Chief of Ordnance. 1945.
    Spielberger, Walter; Doyle, Hilary Lous, Jentz, Thomas L.: Halbkettenfahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres. Motorbuch Verlag: Stuttgart, 2012.
    Hahn, Fritz: Waffen und Geheimwaffen des deutschen Heeres 1933-1945. Dörfler Verlag: Eggolsheim, o.J.
    » IMAGE SOURCES FOR PHOTOS USED «
    Catalog of Enemy Ordnance Material (German). Office Chief of Ordnance: 1945.
    TM-E 30-451: Handbook on German Military Forces. War Department: March 1945.
    #Nebelwerfer #WW2 #RocketArtillery

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  • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
    @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Před 4 lety +164

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    * at around 4:00 - 40 to 50 m the unit for the values in [] 131 to 164 are feet. (thanks to Patreon Galtur)
    * 13:08 - Caption "38 cm leichter Ladungswerfer" should be "38 cm schwerer Ladungswerfer" (thanks to Patreon Galtur)

    • @f4fphantomii468
      @f4fphantomii468 Před 4 lety +1

      This comment was made 3 days ago, but apparently his video was released 10 minutes ago. Upload-Schedule again?

    • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Před 4 lety +8

      @@f4fphantomii468 Nearly all my videos are uploaded before release, since a) they have to be reviewed by CZcams for monetization, which takes a while and b) with my second channel I release 2 videos / week, this requires quite some planning and also backlog, as such, c) Patreon & Subscribestar Supporters of the Tier Feldwebel/Sergeant (and above) get early access as well (with no ads).
      Visualized videos are always released on Tuesday, every two weeks. Not Visualized videos every Friday and every Tuesday, when there is no Visualized Video.
      Link to not Visualized Channel: czcams.com/users/MilitaryHistoryVlogs

    • @isaiahwolftail867
      @isaiahwolftail867 Před 4 lety

      Man that metal is thin it surprising to see how thin all their materials actually were n how slow the bullets were

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 Před 4 lety

      Metalstorm is the 2000's version .czcams.com/video/NLNuBq0NQJE/video.html

    • @jothegreek
      @jothegreek Před 4 lety

      See plz my post

  • @JokiMBS
    @JokiMBS Před 4 lety +1782

    Hans:*Slaps the Nebelwerfer*
    Hans:"This baby can werf so much nebel"

    • @kashual
      @kashual Před 4 lety +8

      wO0sh

    • @Its_shiki_time4876
      @Its_shiki_time4876 Před 4 lety +12

      I'm not gonna like your comment because it has 69 and your comment is n i c e

    • @QemeH
      @QemeH Před 4 lety +40

      Fritz:*slaps the deck of Bismarck*
      Firtz: This baby can schlacht so many schiffe :D

    • @eagletanker
      @eagletanker Před 4 lety +12

      (Transmission somehow breaks)

    • @loliprotectionservices9953
      @loliprotectionservices9953 Před 4 lety +1

      loli protection agency oh its you again

  • @scambroselauntrellus3681
    @scambroselauntrellus3681 Před 4 lety +1615

    It werfs nebels. simple.

    • @chaospilot2142
      @chaospilot2142 Před 4 lety +129

      And a flammenwerfer werfs flammen.

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro Před 4 lety +99

      @@chaospilot2142 And yet the Panzerwerfer does NOT werf panzers.

    • @MazterHuntR
      @MazterHuntR Před 4 lety +56

      And the Panzerschrek schreks panzers, Granatwerfer werfs granat, the StuG III gerschutz sturm and the Hetzer, gotta Hetz.

    • @I_like_big_bombs
      @I_like_big_bombs Před 4 lety +6

      @@Arthurzeiro Sehr falsch. It can NOW

    • @TheSuspectOnFoot
      @TheSuspectOnFoot Před 4 lety +6

      I only came here to see how close Badjur's pronunciation was

  • @ErokLobotomist
    @ErokLobotomist Před 2 lety +113

    Nebeltruppe sounds like the name of a German Stoner Metal band lol

  • @matthewlee8667
    @matthewlee8667 Před 4 lety +968

    “Engineer!”
    “Yes commandant?”
    “You remember those Russian rocket trucks we encountered?”
    “Yes commandant...”
    “Make them *round*”

    • @l.h.9747
      @l.h.9747 Před 4 lety +17

      Im sorry, i dont get it.

    • @matthewlee8667
      @matthewlee8667 Před 4 lety +18

      Luca Hadwiger Katyusha rocket launcher

    • @l.h.9747
      @l.h.9747 Před 4 lety +2

      @@matthewlee8667 yes but why round ?

    • @matthewlee8667
      @matthewlee8667 Před 4 lety +54

      Luca Hadwiger nebelwerfer is a round circle of rocket tubes as opposed to the flatbed shape of the katyusha rocket launchers

    • @davidgrover5996
      @davidgrover5996 Před 4 lety +28

      Jawohl.

  • @YTLSF
    @YTLSF Před 4 lety +106

    Ah yes, the 420th Smoke Troops Bataillon and their infamous blitz on White Castle

  • @esbendit
    @esbendit Před 4 lety +474

    When Denmark was liberated at the end of the war, some resistance members found a Nebelwerfer, and managed to shut down the harbour in the city of Århus with the smoke cloud.

    • @esbendit
      @esbendit Před 4 lety +27

      @@mcpuff2318 I dont know, sadly. I herad the story while at the occupation museum in Aarhus.

    • @chocoman45
      @chocoman45 Před 4 lety +54

      "Sven! What the hell did you do? "
      "I wanted to werf some nebel Olaf."

    • @eternaleuropraetorian332
      @eternaleuropraetorian332 Před 4 lety +15

      "liberation" .. someone call the cringe department .

    • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
      @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 Před 4 lety +33

      Christian National Socialism I’m confused. You feel that Denmark should still be part of Nazi Germany?
      Why?

    • @eternaleuropraetorian332
      @eternaleuropraetorian332 Před 4 lety +15

      @@thecanadiankiwibirb4512 no , Denmark was not part of Germany , it was under supervision temporarily , the point is , it wasn't liberated , because it wasn't oppressed at all . Axis should have won . period .

  • @QemeH
    @QemeH Před 4 lety +6

    My grandfather was a civil land surveyor by trade and got pressed into service by the Wehrmacht because he was the perfect FO for artillery. He wasn't in a Nebel squad, but he did direct fire missions during the german retreat in Hungary and Austria in the last months of the war. He rarely ever talked about the war and what he did as he was not in the slightest proud of what he did. But sometimes he would get a bit drunk and tell his grandchildren the stories. And concerning the movement of artillery after fire, he said (and I'm quoting from memory here): It was doctrine to watch for the muzzle flash of enemy artillery, walk on your guys as fast as possible and as soon as you hit, your artillery ditches while you continue to observe. That way you can easily determine if you hit (fire stops), they move (artillery can't be moved stealthily) or if they stay (fire continues on the position your guys were at). In theory that sounded really good, but as soon as they were out in the field they realised that moving an artillery battery wasn't as easy as on the training field. Wheels popped, special forces disrupted the lines, communication broke down, etc. (everything that games like HoI 4 call "organisation"). So if you could fire three or four rapid fire missions from the same ditch, while the enemy was still trying to walk their fire onto your guys, you had a considerable advantage. That only compounded when the enemy caught on to this and also stayed in their positions - it became a game of chicken: the battery to move first would have their supply train or infantery hit way harder than the battery who moved second.

  • @RandomGuy17768
    @RandomGuy17768 Před 2 lety +13

    The American G.I had a nickname for the nebelwerfer, " Screaming Mimi" my great grandfather's platoon was pinned down and almost wiped out from a nebelwerfer 42. He said it was a sound that he never forgot. He didn't like Hitler's buzzsaw either. He was a 1st I.D infantryman, and as a little kid growing up I tried to listen to all his war stories.

  • @Hagmire
    @Hagmire Před 4 lety +406

    "Something you probably know from Company of Heroes"
    Men Of War Assault Sqaud 2: Am I joke to you?

    • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Před 4 lety +106

      There are Nebelwerfer in Men of War Assault Squad? Well, considering the large amount of units, not so surprising, but I think in COH2 it is a bit more prominent, especially since I think it features far less units then Assault Squad.

    • @Pantsugrenadiere
      @Pantsugrenadiere Před 4 lety +31

      @@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
      well there is the Panzerwerfer and the Stuka Zu Füss in COH2 but no Nebelwerfer
      The Nebel is in COH1
      And i dont generally use arty in mowas2 but when i do Its the Nebelwerfer

    • @Hagmire
      @Hagmire Před 4 lety +5

      @@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Yeah it's usually an expensive late game call in on MOWAS2 but it has the ability to destroy a large portion of your enemy, great video BTW very informative.

    • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Před 4 lety +23

      I meant the "Stuka zu Fuß", since it is with the Wurfrahmen, which is a Nebelwerfer for me.
      There was a regular Nebelwerfer in COH1? Without a mod?

    • @Pantsugrenadiere
      @Pantsugrenadiere Před 4 lety +16

      @@MilitaryHistoryVisualized yup you had acces to it when playing the wehrmacht faction and it's not a mod.
      Also if i remember corrrectly the panzer élite ( the second german faction) had the French Hotchkiss H35 which the same device as the Wurfrahmen on the flanks.
      But yeah the Stuka Zu Füss is used a lot in COH2

  • @kmech3rd
    @kmech3rd Před 3 lety +58

    Much more effective than the "Nederlanderwerfer" for chucking Dutch soldiers at the enemy.

    • @PlutoTheSynth
      @PlutoTheSynth Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t think that’s a real thing lol

    • @Juanthar
      @Juanthar Před 2 lety +2

      Don't forget the Nebelwerker which made the smoke by hand by crushing air

    • @dwaynethemineraljohnson412
      @dwaynethemineraljohnson412 Před 2 lety

      Lol we dutch were no nazi's but you can maybe ask some NSB'ers the betrayours of our country

  • @BayaRae
    @BayaRae Před 4 lety +188

    The Nebelwerfer: It just werfs.

    • @BayaRae
      @BayaRae Před 3 lety

      @@ErrantChordier Yes.

    • @750suzuki7
      @750suzuki7 Před 3 lety +1

      Compared with our modern NebelTwerker, which, as a close range weapon, twerks. Remember, Werfing for long distance, Twerking for up close and personal. When those twerking cheeks start clapping, you know it's personal. Thus ends the lesson.

    • @PXCharon
      @PXCharon Před 2 lety

      Bethesda Softwerfs (tm)

    • @holish.t
      @holish.t Před 2 lety +1

      A granatwerfer werfs Granaten
      A Nebelwerfer werfs nebel
      A Flammenwerfer werfs flammen
      A Panzerfaust fausts panzer
      and a Fallschirmjäger jagst Fallschirme
      Yea german is easy

  • @SomeOne-pd6vm
    @SomeOne-pd6vm Před 4 lety +139

    Hey, if you ever find yourself in Ottawa, Canada, the military history museum has one of the only intact nerbelwerfers left in the world. You should check it out some time !

    • @justarandomguy37
      @justarandomguy37 Před 4 lety +10

      @Loli4lyf men if you re-create a me 109 is not a real me 109

    • @alltat
      @alltat Před 4 lety +11

      @Loli4lyf The barrels aren't the interesting part. You'd have to know how the stabilizing, aiming, and firing systems worked to recreate one.

    • @Valkyrie_Yukikaze
      @Valkyrie_Yukikaze Před 4 lety +9

      Loli4lyf To making rocket artillery is not that simple. Both my grandfather and father were work in a Chinese rocket artillery factory and they told me it is not a easy job to make rocket artillery if a person is inexperience. A skilled worker however can doing better but still hard.

    • @Valkyrie_Yukikaze
      @Valkyrie_Yukikaze Před 4 lety +3

      @Loli4lyf Depend on how historical accuate and functional you want it to be.

    • @Valkyrie_Yukikaze
      @Valkyrie_Yukikaze Před 4 lety +6

      @Loli4lyf Actually no. They are in Chinese military factory in 60s and 70s. Most of their products are used by PLA and also sell to countries like Iran, Iraq, and Yugoslavia countries at that time. You can search for Type-63 Rocket Artillery. The new rocket artillery with those precission aiming maybe come into production in late 80s, 90s or 2000.

  • @mensch1066
    @mensch1066 Před 4 lety +46

    The heart for organization at 13:57 is just perfect!

  • @kevman2296
    @kevman2296 Před 3 lety +40

    "Something you probably know from company of heroes"
    You know your target group :D

  • @g.zoltan
    @g.zoltan Před 4 lety +242

    So this is what the Baguettewefer 40 derived from.

  • @roryokane5907
    @roryokane5907 Před 4 lety +167

    Nebelwerfer: *werfs incendiary projectile*
    Flammenwerfer: Am I a joke to you?

    • @MrOiram46
      @MrOiram46 Před 3 lety +6

      It werfs Flammenwerfer tanks

    • @guardduck987
      @guardduck987 Před rokem

      In case you didnt know: the Flammenwerfer was a flamethrower.

  • @andrewklang809
    @andrewklang809 Před 4 lety +19

    1:45 The numbers on the Construction battalions is enormous, especially since it apparently doesn't include engineer or logistical corps. I think it'd be really interesting to see a video on them, and just how militarized they were over the course of the war.

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 Před 4 lety

      @Persona non grata Perhaps later in the war, but the table was from 1939.

  • @lmyrski8385
    @lmyrski8385 Před 4 lety +178

    Would have liked to have learned something of the weapon's effectiveness and successes. Still, it was very interesting! Thanks!

    • @csec95
      @csec95 Před 4 lety +45

      According to a German memoir I read (otto carius's) him and his unit got hit by friendly fire from a nebelwerfer battery. He described the way that from inside the tank (a tiger 1) the shockwave from the explosions blew all the hatches and sucked the air out. The effect he felt of suddenly not being able to breath seems to have impressed him, as he comments how it made the Russian artillery seem like amateurs (and trust me he gets shelled by the Russians a lot in his memoir). The effect on the infantry (or engineer? I can't remember at the moment) platoon around his tanks is less well described, but casualties were heavy to the point that the entire platoon was render combat ineffective on the spot.

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 Před 3 lety +9

      @@csec95 this kinda reinforces my assumption that the doctrinal change to remaining in place after firing may have been motivated by allied counterbattery prioritizing and getting skilled in rapidly shelling nebelwefer batteries immediately after firing.

    • @RobinTheBot
      @RobinTheBot Před 3 lety

      @Magni56 I'll disagree and say it was both. Anyone who has described being hit by them has described hating them to their core, and the gunners tended to targets they hated.
      The fact they were easy targets just made it all an even easier choice.

    • @RobinTheBot
      @RobinTheBot Před 3 lety

      @Magni56 absolutely true, but remember these are boots. You piss one off there's good odds you pissed them all off. The gunner whose buddy was in the infantry will hate them almost as much as his buddy, and with such an easy target why not make them a priority?

    • @ohlordy2042
      @ohlordy2042 Před 3 lety

      @@csec95
      The British and Americans weren't too impressed with Nebelwerfer capability.
      I've read numerous British reports from front line troops who regarded the 15cm version as being "a lot of smoke and noise, but having little effect ".
      They were certainly very inaccurate (there are firing tables online that can be viewed) with CEP values orders of magnitude larger than artillery.
      And they had a pretty narrow effective range. At ranges below 3km the range error of the 15cm rockets was several hundred meters.
      I've also read British technical reports discussing the urgency of developing their own mass launch rocket system (which they eventually did near the end of the war). The conclusion was that it was a low priority because the weapon was considered to be of very "niche" use.

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. Před 4 lety +108

    Another German rocket system was the 8 cm Raketen-Vielfachwerfer a copy of The Soviet BM-8 Katyusha. Which was developed by SS and mounted on the armored SOMUA MCG and Sd.Kfz. 4 half-track.
    Another interesting topic is signal rockets and dummy cities.

    • @daveybernard1056
      @daveybernard1056 Před 4 lety +32

      I'm in California-- I know plenty about dummy cities.

    • @frederikbeck6464
      @frederikbeck6464 Před 4 lety +2

      I live in a city which was used as a dummy city for Berlin.

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 Před 3 lety +3

      @@daveybernard1056 my condolences

    • @rwps3677
      @rwps3677 Před 3 lety +1

      @@daveybernard1056 F

    • @V0YAG3R
      @V0YAG3R Před 3 lety +1

      Sofus Lol, no

  • @MilesStratton
    @MilesStratton Před 4 lety +22

    "WHAT DID YOU SAY?!"
    -Nebelwerfer crew ca. 1944

    • @4T3hM4kr0n
      @4T3hM4kr0n Před 3 lety +2

      "THE GUNS! AREN'T! HERE! THE KRAUTS MUST HAVE MOVED THEM SOMEPLACE ELSE!

    • @JakvsMetalheads999
      @JakvsMetalheads999 Před 3 lety +1

      4T3hM4kr0n! Well hell, keep moving, we're sitting ducks out here! Head for Rally Point Baker and set up that roadblock, Taylor and I will look for the guns from there!

  • @ZaffBox
    @ZaffBox Před 4 lety +51

    Finally something covering the need to werf my nebels!

  • @I_am_Diogenes
    @I_am_Diogenes Před 4 lety +1

    Another good one . I love the amount of information you include in your videos . Plenty of material to fuel discussions .

  • @1stMemberEver
    @1stMemberEver Před 3 lety +2

    Another great video loaded with information. One of the best channels in CZcams and I'm not a military history freak.

  • @rutabagasteu
    @rutabagasteu Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you. I have read number of books on WW2, but this is the first time I learned other than the minimum on these weapons.

  • @Mati_Panzer
    @Mati_Panzer Před 4 lety +39

    last time I was this early, the panzer 38(t) was still called LT vz. 38

  • @tf2664
    @tf2664 Před 4 lety +99

    The Nebelwerfer actually sounds terrifying

    • @FedorFox
      @FedorFox Před 4 lety +16

      If you speak German it just sounds confusing, considering that it didn't only fire smoke shells.

    • @ZeFluffyKnight
      @ZeFluffyKnight Před 4 lety +12

      @@FedorFox Pretty sure he is referring to the actual firing sound.

    • @logoseven3365
      @logoseven3365 Před 4 lety +23

      TF2
      Grandpa said it was, but they didn’t fear them as much as standard artillery. They were easy to locate, slow reloads, shorter range(?), and inaccurate. That’s hardcore when you have a preference of what weapon you prefer to have firing at you.

    • @EpicRenegade777
      @EpicRenegade777 Před 4 lety +10

      @@logoseven3365 i guess it would be the same as being happy you are fighting italians over german soldiers.

    • @0Turbox
      @0Turbox Před 4 lety +2

      @@FedorFox Why? It's named after Rudolf Nebel, who invented it.

  • @thomasescher9661
    @thomasescher9661 Před 4 lety

    I was looking for these precious informations since a lot of years.... Thanks for this video !

  • @user-ke2us6gk3u
    @user-ke2us6gk3u Před 4 lety

    Another great video. Never fail to impress, really enjoy all the sources as well!!!

  • @DoubleD_83
    @DoubleD_83 Před 2 lety +1

    Just started to follow
    your account.
    Good work for the extended research. Keeping it simple and easy to listen. And staying on the metric system, not going back and forth with converting
    every measurement to inches.
    Of course do to mainly keeping
    focused on German tactics and
    weaponry. Thanks for all the information. Greetings from
    the Netherlands (Holland) 🇳🇱

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 Před 4 lety +20

    Standoff detonations. Reminds me of the detonator probe on some HEAT rounds. Same general intent: maximize the weapon's effectiveness.

    • @WildBillCox13
      @WildBillCox13 Před 4 lety

      The 10.5cm Mortar was a complex weapon, as I recall from my reading. Rate of fire was painfully slow, despite the greater range and accuracy, vis a vis standard GrW.

  • @Krjstofur
    @Krjstofur Před 4 lety

    I love your channel so f’ing much. Danke mein Freund. 🤙🏻🍺

  • @LordAnestis
    @LordAnestis Před 4 lety +22

    Company of Heroes made me appreciate the German weaponry of WW2.

    • @Mr-Ad-196
      @Mr-Ad-196 Před 4 lety

      Lol I like how it said anti infantry...
      But I used it as a anti tank.....spam like 8 or more and rain death from above...

  • @juanfervalencia
    @juanfervalencia Před 4 lety

    thank you very much, I really appreciate what you do, I always learn something new.

  • @gtu660
    @gtu660 Před 4 lety +31

    6:57 did i hear company of heroes 1 walking stuka halftrack?

    • @prome3439
      @prome3439 Před 4 lety +2

      Yes u did, Stuka zu Fuß^^

  • @Duececoupe
    @Duececoupe Před 3 lety

    Found this very interesting, very much appreciated! 👍🏻

  • @machinegunpreacher2469
    @machinegunpreacher2469 Před 4 lety +6

    I say this in regards to the final quote you mentioned. (This is a *positive* comment by the way, in case anybody misunderstands.)
    A thing we have to remember about memoirs (I get told all the time by professors that memoirs can be inaccurate, etc. which is true sometimes [not thinking about Guderian or anything]) is that memoirs of frontline troops are accounts of isolated incidents.
    One isolated man or group record the circumstances that they have to overcome; these often include trying times requiring outside-the-box thinking.
    Which relates to another thing I hear about memoirs: "oh, but that - insert weapon, vehicle, etc. here - was not how they were deployed/used." Fair enough.
    However, improvisation, particularly life-saving improvisation, up to and including flat out misuse of a weapons system or vehicle takes place in every conflict. The Bofors 40mm is a prime example. The Canadians "misused" this anti-aircraft gun to clear dozens upon dozens of German MG nests in France. In Korea, Shermans were rolled up onto mounds and used as howitzers; and we all know the 1001 ("other") uses troops have for condoms.
    Just because "you didn't use them that way" in standard procedure, doesn't mean it didn't happen. So (not saying Herr Kast did this, he did not) we can't always dismiss memoirs, etc. that note non-standard or, again, even misuse of equipment in conflicts.
    Anyway, thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. The 'Werfer has always fascinated me and there is just not enough material dedicated to it at the moment. Thank you for working on changing that.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito Před 4 lety +14

    Just a friendly correction I know you appreciate in your feedback.
    When reciting numbers in English, it is correct to name each number individually after the decimal point.

    • @AR-GuidesAndMore
      @AR-GuidesAndMore Před 4 lety +3

      Its like that in german as well, BUT very few people care.
      I dont want to be antagonistic, i just wanted to say something.

    • @pilotwhaleproductions5880
      @pilotwhaleproductions5880 Před 2 lety

      As a native English speaker I disagree, it is common when dealing with two decimal places to treat the hanging numbers as normal, ie 1.12 is “one point twelve”; ‘.45’ is “point forty five” etc

  • @grahamrider9026
    @grahamrider9026 Před 3 lety

    Much thanks for this research!

  • @BattalionCommanderMK
    @BattalionCommanderMK Před 2 lety +1

    Nice explanation please make more!

  • @mchrome3366
    @mchrome3366 Před 2 lety

    Another great video. Thanks.

  • @billd.iniowa2263
    @billd.iniowa2263 Před 4 lety +11

    Thanx so much! Not a commonly used weapon, but when they were deployed in the right place at the right time, they were devastating. I'm a bit surprised you didnt mention their terror factor. It wasnt just the blast radius, but the "Screaming Mimis" had a powerful demoralizing effect too. From what I heard in an interview, U.S. infantry soldiers feared them terribly.

    • @benlewis4241
      @benlewis4241 Před 2 lety

      Huh, I always heard Moaning Minnie over here in the UK, I wonder which one came first.

  • @antonirosol3085
    @antonirosol3085 Před 2 lety +1

    nebelwerfer in Poland was called "krowa" (cow) or "szafa" (wardrobe) because it makes a specific sound when fired

  • @peterbehnis3605
    @peterbehnis3605 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow!!!!!!!
    Sehr detailreich!!!!!👍👍👍👍
    Sehr gut übersetzt!!!!!👍👍👍
    Einfach klasse gemacht und mit sehr viel Liebe gestaltet!👍👍👍👍
    Sau gutes video!!!! Cool

  • @ModellingforAdvantage
    @ModellingforAdvantage Před 4 lety

    Useful review of the equipment.

  • @pricelesshistory
    @pricelesshistory Před 4 lety +72

    4:25 Is firing order seen from behind the launcher?

    • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Před 4 lety +29

      Yes

    • @phil6715
      @phil6715 Před 4 lety +10

      That's why you clear backblast when firing rpgs and such. To avoid toasting the guy behind you

    • @piotrgrzelak2613
      @piotrgrzelak2613 Před 4 lety +9

      @@phil6715 It's more about giving a concussion with the propellant charge of rpg-7. This rocket however would probably throw you like a ragdoll and burn if you stood there.

    • @phil6715
      @phil6715 Před 4 lety

      @@piotrgrzelak2613 really? Interesting. But with that force how did they avoid it from leaping into the air, dosent seem like they have anything locked in the ground

    • @piotrgrzelak2613
      @piotrgrzelak2613 Před 4 lety +5

      @@phil6715 I'm not sure which weapon are you asking about, but both work on a no-recoil principle. The werfers rocket apparently didn't move the launcher too much, if alternating rails was enough to make it accurate on the rather short ranges it reached. For the purpose of smoke laying that wasn't even that important

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn Před 4 lety +2

    Growing up reading accounts from Allied infantrymen who experienced the screaming moans of Nebelwerfers incoming, is that they feared it with dread. 280mm and 320mm HE and Flame projectiles aint no joke. Very good information on these vicious Nebelwerfers, thanks a lot.

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb7521 Před 4 lety +1

    According to both US and British stats they caused less casualties than thier number of regular artillery or mortar shells but troops where way more scared shitless and less likely to advance against it because of the psychological effect of the noise and smoke

  • @jrd33
    @jrd33 Před 4 lety +2

    Very informative video, thank you. Regarding A/T guns - I have a source which says the Schwere Fallschirm Werfer Abteilung 21 in Holland in September 1944 included an A/T platoon equipped with 7.5cm A/T guns. I always thought this seemed strange but it matches what you said.

  • @Kevin_Kennelly
    @Kevin_Kennelly Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you. I now have Nebel knowledge.

  • @toonotsleep8
    @toonotsleep8 Před 3 lety +1

    As a primary English speaker it is doubly chilling to read at 1.22 'vergiften' yikes - Amazing video as always

  • @Heroltz998
    @Heroltz998 Před 4 lety

    I did learn something new about Nebelwerfers. Quite a lot, actually.

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 Před 2 lety +1

    So many observers would comment on the sound of all of these rockets saying how scary the sound is . I don’t think that a normal microphone captures the sound , I does sound different when we hear it here but I think you actually have to be PRESENT to hear the moaning etc that differentiates these weapons !

  • @Temeluchas
    @Temeluchas Před 4 lety +4

    Soviet sources seem to somewhat agree with your conjecture on 5:30 - "Полевая реактивная артиллерия в Великой Отечественной войне. М., Воениздат, 1955" (Field rocket arillery in the Great Patriotic war) which at the time (in 1955) was limited to military academies, stated that 15-sm nebelwerfer rocket warhead's thin walls produced only a small amount of fragments, which somewhat negated advantages of warhead detonating above ground. But at the same time above ground detonation and rather small blasting limited destructive potential against fortifications. At the same time, the opinion given on 21-sm rockets was really praising.

  • @jamesstaggs4160
    @jamesstaggs4160 Před 4 lety +2

    Even though they were totally ineffective, I used to love using these things back in the original Steel Panther for PC.

  • @maxwell120L55
    @maxwell120L55 Před 4 lety +1

    The Nebelwerfer is such a good weapon to use in MoW:AS2 as long as it doesn't crash my game from the sheer ammount of buildings I destroy with it

  • @mcsmash4905
    @mcsmash4905 Před 4 lety +5

    the first time when i saw these things was a long time ago during the very first mission of call of duty 2

  • @danielgreen3715
    @danielgreen3715 Před 3 lety

    Excellent thankyou really want to know about these as there dont seem to be many models left working order unlike many other weapons from the time great video

  • @Theorist1984
    @Theorist1984 Před 4 lety

    Congratulations on a very interesting channel.

  • @sapperjaeger
    @sapperjaeger Před 2 lety

    Surprisingly interesting content....toll!

  • @terrydelorme
    @terrydelorme Před 2 lety

    Thank you. 감사합니다.

  • @kaiserschnitzel89
    @kaiserschnitzel89 Před 4 lety +5

    I, for one, love werfing nebels in my spare time as a wehraboo.

  • @damniel__
    @damniel__ Před 4 lety +31

    the title is 9/10 clickbaity. A fullstop would make it perfect^^
    (I love it tho)

  • @jhonnythejeccer6022
    @jhonnythejeccer6022 Před 3 lety

    Guten tag. Schönes video

  • @captin-crane3324
    @captin-crane3324 Před 4 lety

    This thing had more drop than a mortar, meaning it can be fired at a ranged arc. Making them capable of firing in an enclosed space or spaces not visible from the sky. And the low velocity let them fire behind cover making them hard to destroy by plains or tanks. But they were very easy to track.

  • @raddirector99
    @raddirector99 Před 3 lety +6

    I’m trying to find a Nebelwerfer ringtone for my wife. Any suggestions?

  • @harlech2
    @harlech2 Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @jeremymorrall6750
    @jeremymorrall6750 Před rokem

    My late father encountered these things in Italy. They were known as 'Moaning Minis' or 'Sobbing Sisters'. He said that, when under fire from them, if the first explosion was loud, (which meant it landed near you), you were generally o.k. as the others 'walked' away from you. On the other hand, if the first rocket that landed was quiet, it usually meant the rocket landed away from you, which meant 'get down and stay down!', because the remaining rockets 'walked' up to you.

  • @barthoving2053
    @barthoving2053 Před 4 lety +1

    Only the 15cm Wurfgranate 41 had the complex lay out of the charge behind the rocket engine. Unlike the later German rockets, this rocket was still designed to dispense chemical gas or smoke. Having your gas smashed into the ground or explode a meter above it probably makes a much bigger impact then with a high explosive. And compared to the 10cm mortar the rocket also developed a much higher top speed and reach it further down it's trajectory.
    Having the engine in the back allowed for the explosive compartment to bulge out and thus carrying a heavier payload in the same length. A concept both the Germans as the Western allies applied in many of their later WW2 rockets which mainly meant to deploy high explosive.

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Před 2 lety +1

    German High Command: Can you make rocket launcher that also werfs nebel(fog)?
    Engineers: Jawohl

  • @skapunker1986
    @skapunker1986 Před 2 lety

    such an awesome experience it was, facing these in early 2002 in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault !!!

  • @thomasbernecky2078
    @thomasbernecky2078 Před 4 lety +3

    Fog Thrower; a rare example of German being less, rather than more descriptive.

  • @attananightshadow
    @attananightshadow Před 4 lety

    I didn’t know I could know this much about the nebelwerfer

  • @kennethbruhn4535
    @kennethbruhn4535 Před 4 lety

    Dear bud I am planning on making a lego mock for this using legos so thanks for making this video its gonna help me

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 Před 3 lety +4

    While the system worked, there was one massive disadvantage: you could clearly see the smoke coming out from the _Nebelwefer_ rocket. As such, _Neberwefer_ positions were could subject to severe counter-battery fire from enemy artillery.

    • @lordanonimmo7699
      @lordanonimmo7699 Před 3 lety

      The same for the katyusha,but the soviets instantly changed their position.

    • @paullakowski2509
      @paullakowski2509 Před 2 lety

      that's why god invented Panzerwerfer

  • @kiowhatta1
    @kiowhatta1 Před 4 lety

    Good video on a sentimental favourite.
    I would have like to know more about the mobile variants, the makeup of a mobile Nebeltruppe company or battery - and perhaps some figures for the success or lack of success.
    Also, how did the Nebelwerfer compare to the Katyusha, and the U.S T-34 Calliope?
    So many questions so little time.

  • @kiwivogel
    @kiwivogel Před 4 lety

    The payload at the back likely had a negative impact on stability (and as such accuracy). Rockets typically want their center of mass as far forward (or up) as possible. Compare balancing a upright broom on your finger. This works with the brush end up but not the other way around.

  • @RangaTurk
    @RangaTurk Před 4 lety

    It would be interesting to know if any of this equipment was captured within the perimeters of the Stalingrad Pocket. Would have been kind of useful during the thunderclap operation when fired from the direction of the pocket. Great video, I have learned much about the history of these units and the equipment in question.

  • @Jinseual
    @Jinseual Před 3 lety

    Nice to know he's also a fan of company of heroes.

  • @lewcrowley3710
    @lewcrowley3710 Před 4 lety

    The tube launched rockets attained spin from both the nozzle arrangement (splayed out), and also there are rails inside the tubes. They are visible in the video. More accurate than Soviet katyushas, but they were blast weapons, not fragmentation weapons like the Soviets. When fired into cities/towns, they created enough secondary missiles that they were effective. The fuel warheads were used against the british airborne troops if I recall.

  • @bmedlin00
    @bmedlin00 Před 2 lety

    always been fascinated with the nebelwerfer... it looks so much like a revolver cylinder to me

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Před 4 lety +1

    You had me at flame oil. 🔥

  • @steveweidig5373
    @steveweidig5373 Před 3 lety

    I think the inclusion of a 5cm PaK 38 was due to it's rangefinder, since the firing range of a 5cm PaK 38 and the 28/32 Nebelwerfer 40/41 had similar firing ranges and the range could be more precisely measured on flat terrain with a it's rangefinder.
    Also, due to sitting pretty close to the frontline as a result of it's short range, having some capabilities to defend itself against scout vehicles was certainly not useless either. By that time the 3.7cm Pak 36 had been mostly phased out and the 7.5cm Pak 40 would have been too cumbersome for that role, so the 5cm would be the best fit.

  • @Mr.Pallanza
    @Mr.Pallanza Před 3 lety

    Ahh. The Infamous Nebelwerfer. I remember the countless multiplayer skirmishes I had in Company of Heroes. Squeezing the Allies in a tight corridor in Red Ball Express and Werfing some Nebels. Good times.

  • @DividistanMilitia
    @DividistanMilitia Před 4 lety +1

    Mein favourite

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Před 2 lety +1

    It throws nebel(fog) to its operators and people nearby, but werfs or throws rocket at its targets

  • @ingowalkerling5141
    @ingowalkerling5141 Před 8 měsíci

    Die Wurfkörper waren durch die Schwerpunktlage bereits pfeilstabil. Die Rotation sollte die Schubasymetrien an den einzelnen Austrittsdüsen ausgleichen und so zu einer gleichmässigeren Bahn führen. Das gleiche Prinzip wird heute auch bei modernen flügelstabilisierten Lenkwaffen noch angewandt, wenn die Düse aus mehreren Austritten besteht.
    Die erreichte Rotation hätte nicht für eine Drallstabilisierung ausgereicht. Darüber hinaus haben Molitz/Strobel in den 1960ern nachgewiesen, dass eine gleichzeitige Drall- und Flügelstabilisierung eher kontraproduktiv ist (Molitz'sches Stabilitätsdreieck).
    Bei gezogenen Waffen wird die Rotation nach der Formel
    Drehzahl = Mündungsgeschwindigkeit durch Drallänge berechnet. Damit ergeben sich mehrere tausend Umdrehungen pro Sekunde bei echter Drallstabilisierung.

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna Před 4 lety +113

    *Young German. Time for National Service approaching? Don´t know how to serve the Vaterland? Join new and exciting arm of service: Smoketroops!*
    - Non-smokers need not apply -

    • @emilsinclair4190
      @emilsinclair4190 Před 4 lety +4

      It is literally more like fog

    • @TheLtVoss
      @TheLtVoss Před 4 lety +6

      As a german guy Smoke =Rauch, Nebel = Fog but nice try dude

    • @WarblesOnALot
      @WarblesOnALot Před 4 lety +1

      @@emilsinclair4190
      Ach, So !
      Zey vere clearly, All VAPERS !!!
      eCigarettes neffer effer did outrage Herr Fuhrer, durr beloved "Grofaz" (Grosster Feldherr Aller Zeiten).
      He vas alvays farr too busy pattink himself on durrr Back as to neffer effer encounter General AA Gunfire from out & about about..
      Such is Life,
      ;-D

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 Před 4 lety +1

      Considering all the incendiaries they used, smoking was probably frown uppon

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 Před 4 lety

      @James Harding my comment was a joke too

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps Před 4 lety

    Nebelwerfers on Pioneer halftracks make sense considering building a bridge needs protection or fog to get the work done.

  • @Thirdbase9
    @Thirdbase9 Před 4 lety

    I love your videos and have a question. Can you suggest a book or books that covers the TO&E of the various WWII armies. I have one for the US Army. I am looking for something that would list weapons, personnel, vehicles, and animals. Thanks.

  • @visi8760
    @visi8760 Před 4 lety

    Nice One! Cheers

  • @eugeneoliveros5814
    @eugeneoliveros5814 Před 4 lety

    In that weird game Battlefield 5, in both the campaign, and some of the combined arms missions, you can find enemy halftracks with the rocket launchers

  • @steveholmes5207
    @steveholmes5207 Před 4 lety +3

    The Americans called it the screaming memie wicked piece of kit a very distinctive sound

    • @FeedMeMister
      @FeedMeMister Před 4 lety

      @Mialisus This is the content I hit history channel comment sections for.

    • @Xoruam
      @Xoruam Před 4 lety

      We used to call it "szafa", i.e. "wardrobe" in Poland because of that sound.

    • @mattislindehag3065
      @mattislindehag3065 Před 4 lety

      If your wardrobe makes nebelwerfer noises you need to oil the hinges.

  • @KPearce57
    @KPearce57 Před 4 lety +1

    Klar als Nebel, Danke

  • @Joaosantos22114
    @Joaosantos22114 Před 4 lety +1

    Its iconic sound while firing at the distance still is one of the biggest memories I have from the COD and Company of Heroes. Really neat.

  • @luvr381
    @luvr381 Před 4 lety +4

    I've always found it surprising that with the intensity of conflict, that use wasn't made of poison gas in WW2.

    • @violentscorl697
      @violentscorl697 Před 4 lety

      Ender I have wondered that too. Have you found out anything?

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 4 lety

      @@violentscorl697 My best guess is they found out that using chemical weaponry isn't really necessary or as effective as artillery would (after all, more soldiers in tGW died from artie instead of gas)

    • @nomobobby
      @nomobobby Před 4 lety

      I always heard that Germans were always scared to deploy gas after tGW and refused to use it. The allies refused to be the first to use it. But idk if that’s true...

    • @NC7491
      @NC7491 Před 3 lety

      @Britannic Richard Evans talks about it in his trilogy. Some advocated for it towards the end of the war, but probably for the reason mentioned above, they did not prevail.

    • @ayoutubecommenter1827
      @ayoutubecommenter1827 Před rokem

      Hitler was very opposed to chemical warfare, considering he himself was a victim he knew how evil it was, and that it's a game not worth playing

  • @ancientfungi7818
    @ancientfungi7818 Před 4 lety +2

    huzzah! A video about artillery! and a great one at that! Though this was already rather expansive I think it would have been great to highlight the influences the soviet rocket artillery had on the Germans and the other way around.

    • @austriad9574
      @austriad9574 Před 4 lety +1

      Nebelwerfers were manufactured, produced and became operational over a year before Barbarossa was even launched. So yeah, it's "the other way around".

  • @Rynewulf
    @Rynewulf Před 4 lety

    These remind me a lot of medieval ribaults and east asian hwatchas. Mainly the frame being used to house and guide projectiles, it seems like quite an old idea

  • @dermotrooney9584
    @dermotrooney9584 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks. For a while I've been in an argument about NBW firing at very short range and you've helped settle it in my favour. Petty VICTORY!

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 Před 3 lety +1

      Never underestimate pettiness. It's been the motivation for some of the greatest discoveries in human history.

    • @dermotrooney9584
      @dermotrooney9584 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you@@clothar23 I am the king of petty point scoring. 😁

  • @Sapeidra
    @Sapeidra Před 3 lety +1

    this champ travelled to germany only to look up the instruction manual for this video!