Should You Tune or Remap An Older TDi Engine [Tuning Advice]
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- The modern TDi engine offers great returns when tuned or remapped and also gives better fuel economy.
Is it still worth getting an older TDi remapped? Will a remap affect reliability of the engine? How can you remap a higher mileage or older TDi engine and avoid reliability issues and problems?
Is diesel tuning, ecu flashing and remapping a good upgrade? Should you map an older or high mileage diesel engine? Are TDI tunes and TDI ECU flash tunes worth carrying out on your car? Find out everything you need to know in this video.
This applies to all older Tdi CRdi CDTi and any turbo diesel engine with a higher mileage. 1.3 TDI 1.4 TDi 1.5 TDi 1.6 TDi 1.7 TDI 1.8 TDi 1.9 TDi 2.0 Tdi 2.5 Tdi 2.9 Tdi 3.0 Tdi etc..
A few common sense upgrades will make the tuning go smoothly and help you get the most from your ECU tune on your diesel engine.
Find out the common problems we see all the time on older diesel engines after a tune and how to avoid these completely.
IS it safe to tune, upgrade, modify or do do tuning on a diesel engine?
A viewer on this channel asked us about remapping their TDi engine but they were concerned about the clutch and if it would affect the reliability of the engine.
We look at the pros and cons of remaps and suggest ways to get a remap done without unduly affecting your cars reliability in the long term.
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Legal Notice: Unless we have inspected your car we can only provide generic theory. All information is provided without warranty, please check any recommendations made with a mechanic locally to verify it would be legal in your area or region and that it would be suitable for your car and your needs.
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I had a older audi 2.0tdi 170bhp had dpf and egr and remapped it was definitely a massive increase in power well worth it on a long drive was great on fuel
I’ve been considering getting my beetle done, I had the cambelt, WP, aux and tensioner done last October so I know it’s a healthy engine. It’s only done 113k too. I get 40-45 urban dependent on weather, as we know dervs suffer in winter. Lower calorific value “winter fuel” plus ambient engine temp from cold.
I commented on you egr vid yesterday. Subbed now 👍🏼
Edit… Years ago I had a 306 dturbo S
Bosch fuel pump, a few turns of the screw and I shortened the actuator rod to turbo. It flew compared to standard but lost power once the top mount IC warmed up 😂😂
Been watching lots of your vids, truly great content, thx for all the work! I kept my first new car (2004 a3 8p 1.9 tdi bkc engine) and intend to keep it as long as possible, always knew about the great potential of remapping but shied away from any kind of tune coz of the possible impact of more wear and the difficulty to find a garage doing such things that you can really trust. Only got two gripes with this engine, it lacks a 6th gear coz the revs on the Autobahn are simply too high for my liking (my cruising speed commonly is between 160-180 km/h and then it revs at 3200-3400rpm, the other thing is the fairly big turbo lag when driving off (car is heavy and feels even heavier then). Loved the power delivery of the 2.0 tdi 140 with PD and almost bought this one instead but given the plethora of issues this engine had, I m glad I settled for the well trusted 1.9tdi.
It's difficult to find tuners once your car is past a certain age/mileage, most of them won't want to take it on or they will suggest costly upgrades that you don't really need
That is so true unfortunately but there are still many decent garages out there happy to do the work on any car that passes their basic reliability checks. It just means you have to look harder.
Darkside Developments, they done all 3 of my cars now. Still running my A3, 183,000 miles and still going strong, no injector problems, have blown a turbo at 145,000 though but pulls like a train, MPG is thru the roof, 68 mpg at 70mph.
Also bear in mind, it takes 80,000 miles to run a diesel in, if its gonna fail it WILL fail well before then, if you got 80k or more, you got a proven head and block and they will take whatever you wanna throw on them.
Stock 138 Bhp from the factory, now running (last dyno'd at turbo failure), 186.2 Bhp and 395 Ft Lbs.
@@AnIdiotAboard_ Those lads know what they’re doing 👌🏼💨
I’ve been subbed for years. I’ve got an 03 beetle 100 ATD Pd. Only thing holding me back is coin haha.
Let me tell you something here that’s bull mate because my Skoda fabia vrs 1.9tdi is old they still remapped my car even tho it’s old thats crap right there your talking 💯💪🏻
@@JoshuaEVANS-Dez1 I’ve got a 2003 vw bora pd130….it’s done 290000 miles doesn’t smoke or burn oil….I’ve egr deleted it …k&n panel filtered it …replaced the duel mass clutch with LUK…and the car flys…it will pull hard and effortlessly to 130mph….the turbo is standard and a little worn now and there is now a boost leek…if I upgrade the turbo to a 1749 and darkside upgrade smic would you get it stage 1 remapped
I own a 1Z TDI 90hp, did a evry mod and maf mod on it, upgraded injectors to 0.205, stock turbo, no chip tune. Beating some Audi A4 with AGN and Golf Mk4s, and still running great after many years.
I've got a 1z tdi conversion in my t4. How do you do the maf and evry mod?
I too have a Seat Ibiza 1z in my T4 ! Totally standard apart from de-cat and EGR delete. Is the MAF mod the same as the fuel temp resistor mod ?
Great content. Thank you 🙏
I have a 2010 Jetta 2.0 TDI
Stock 110 bhp / 250 Nm
Currently running a STAGE 2 remap by ICD Tuning at 187000 kms.
Stage 2 out: 170 bhp / 380 Nm
Current Mileage: 193,000 kms
Always serviced on time and used highest quality products.
Engine still feels butter smooth.
With 193k kms on ODO, is it safe to do a STAGE 3 remap, i.e.
1. Turbo upgrade - CR 170 or CR 190 / hybrid
2. Intercooler upgrade
3. The Stage 3 map ofcourse
4. Performance airfilter
Do I have to change the internals for increased reliability?
Much thanks for your time 🙏
Great stuff man keep it up!
I'd say if your driving a VW DTI with a factory tune your driving in granny mode. A conservative remap will bring the engine to what it really should be from factory. A bit of pep and no hesitation off the mark. But then it would be more like an audi. Indeed the tune may be the only difference.
lol I like that expression, Granny mode, it fits really well. People who get a remap done wonder why they didn't do it sooner, it really is a night and day difference isn't it.
I have a 2008 a5 2.7 tdi with the multitronic I've heard the gearbox can't handle a remap from some people I don't want anything crazy just an improvement in mpg and power.
You can focus on low to mid range torque, and not push the gearbox to cope with a large peak increase which is typically where any problems lie. A good remap company who understands the car can set the output to give you a bit more power, better economy and not stress the turbo or gearbox.
@@torquecars Thanks for the reply.
Im thinkng about remaping my vw golf 6 1.6 tdi 105bhp from 2010. It has 140000km. It is completly stock, still has original EGR and DPF. Is it safe to remap it?
Did u do it and if yes did it work ok? I also have a 1.6tdi 105hp cayc and maybe i want to remap also
I remapped my 1.9tdi 105bhp to 150bhp at 240,000km it now has 350,000km with no problems 👍
I have a 2014 toyota rav4 2.2d4d 110kw. 133000km
Would remapping it give me slightly better fuel consumption while giving me a bit of a bump in power?
Any suggestions on where to go, to learn more about downloading and understanding maps. Case in point mk4 alh.
I have remapped my skoda octavia vrs tdi mk2 the 170hp stage 1 but the car is not working properly my mechanic change my manifold blocked egr change solenoid valve and still losing power when i press the paddle suddenly if i press it slow ok
I want to almost half the hp but make it more reliable and improve response and torque
Do you mean half the hp or add half the HP on top of what you've got? Both are often achievable (but not at the same time obviously!). halving power will reduce engine efficiency so there is probably a sweet spot, overall though putting a dip in mid to top end torque will improve reliability, and upping the boost slightly at the low end will help spool up response, but if done too much you'll put strain on the turbo.
So I would like to but an xman turbo and possibly bigger injectors and 11 mm fuel pump on my 2000 ALH TDI should I buy a Kerma plug in tuner or take it somewhere to get it remapped
Mate your channel is the best ..i was just now exactly struggling with this question.. i have 2007 1.9tdi Audi A3 .. and recently i had bring ti a shop since my sensor failed ,DPF clogged, and glow plug needed to replace.. bit since i had that sorted i noticed that the engine power delivery is not the same , i feel like im missing responsivnes ,and bit off boost in higher RPM in 3-5th gear ..prior this i didn't wanted to any remap since i felt my power was sufficient and i didn't wanted to compromise reliability.. but now it feels underpowered and it buggs me when i drive . What you think is best cours of action? Thanks
These engines tend to need a few hundred miles to re trim everything after major changes which is why it might seem down on power. Bear in mind the engine is quite different now with these new parts.
A remap is the most highly recommended mod, it will transform your engine and is probably one of the easiest upgrades out there.
@@torquecars re trim means the engine will recalibrate on it's own while your are driving? Did i understood that right? Thanks a lot mate
Hi , I remapped 2.0 TDI on Dyno to 187BHP 435NMT in jan , cars done 130 k today my flywheel is knocking idle, flywheel on way out . Do I have to get clutch done with flywheel would this make long term sense
Tell me, who did your remap? Will you share their contact details? Is there a way of purchasing the remap files so i can upload them myself? I'm in South Africa & remaps still cost an arm and a leg here
Yeah usually when replacing clutch on a diesel it’s recommended to get the flywheel done too
Hello i just started to watch your videos its probaly a mid life crisis for me but i always wanted to tune a car i currently drive a passat cc 2011 plate done 105000 with a dsg auto box tge car as been well loojed aftee dsg box oil changed every 40000 miles cam belt warer pump changed and serviced every 10000 miles .
My question is could this car be remapped what msp woild be the best option and how do you fine a genuine good tuner remspper etc ??
Many thanks for you help in advance
Hi ive got a 2014 Skoda superb tdi 140 and thinking about getting it mapped should i get the egr and dpf delete???
i wanna do stage 1 on my leon 1m 2004 tdi asv 110hp... is it safe to do?
Im considering having a remap done on my a4 cabrio on a 06 plate shes only done 61.000 having just recently replaced clutch and fly, brakes and shocks ect and bushes, what in your expert opinion would be a good tune? 😊😊😊😊 many thanks
Which engine does it have? Even a modest ECO map will give a nice bump up in power.
It’s a 2.0 tdi basic 140 hp
Thanks a lot have a good day
Im thinking to remap my passat 1.9 tdi 2005 But its automatic (tranmession torque converter) do you think is safe ?
You shouldn't have a problem quite a few of our members have had this done with this transmission and have been pleased with the results. Choose a mapper who knows the car and gearbox well though, and don't push everything to the max. A decent economy oriented map should put you in a decent power zone with minimal extra stress on the gearbox and drivetrain components.
I had remapped my peugeot 1.6 hdi and after a few miles one of the injectors failed so had it map removed is that coincident ? Car only done 30 k miles
only if the remap had a bad rail pressure map. I would keep the original rail pressure map in the remap in ur case
It struck me as being odd,that's why I commented I have ne restricted modes on whatsoever I am and never been derogatory,good luck with your site,but it doesn't work here in the uk
Are you talking about the TorqueCars.com web site? I'll look into this and see if I can track down the problem. I appreciate the heads up my friend, more eyes = more feedback is always good, just wish I had a large team to do the tech stuff for me.
I own an astra cdti sri 1.7 its on a 14 plate with 92,000 miles on it. I fancy a remap, will it give me extra MPG or just extra BHP ?
It depends on the mapper, and most maps can be optimized for both. Most drivers even with performance maps will see better fuel economy, if you drive the same you hit the higher power figures at lower RPM's.
A point to note is that remapping doesn't always add more fuel, often the duration and timing of the fuel injection will make the engine more efficient. The increased efficiency means more power from less fuel and less heat lost in frictional losses typical of higher RPM driving.
If you car is now making 100hp at 3000rpm rather than at 4000rpm you need less throttle and hence will use less fuel to achieve the same rate of travel and acceleration.
@@torquecars thanks for the advice I appreciate it
Cheers buddy, thanks for the support and encouragement.
This guy has made sure you cant see ANY of these reples or responses on this site,dont know whats going on.
Replies and responses are clearly visible on this site, if you cannot see them perhaps you are viewing CZcams in "restricted mode" which will hide some comments if they contain certain words. Also if a response attacks or is rude to another commenter or contains language deemed inappropriate then it is filtered and auto deleted. I do try to read all responses and reply where I can but I am only one guy with a family and limited time.
The real answer is to rip the diesel shitepiece out n shlap a 20v turbo in there