Commercial Graphene Production // Allotropes and Applications
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- We're entering the graphene age. This video will include a primer on graphene, methods of commercial and industrial graphene production, allotropes of graphene, applications for graphene, and when we'll see it in products.
I explain bottom up and top down graphene production methods, the different types of graphene, and when we can expect to see the different types of graphene in products.
The types of graphene discussed are: Graphene Oxide (GO), Reduced Graphene Oxide (RGO), and Pristine Graphine. I also discuss Graphene films, Graphene Flakes (one layer graphene, two layer graphene, few layer graphene) and Nanoplatelets.
Talga Resources and Beeasy Graphene Company are discussed to provide examples.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - Carbon Chemistry
03:47 - Bottom Up Graphene
05:27 - MIT CVD Method (Parylene)
06:38 - Top Down Graphene
07:50 - Hummer's Method
09:44 - Talga & Electrochemical Exfoliation
12:27 - Beeasy & ISO Standards
13:54 - Graphene Flake
15:22 - Recap
16:11 - 2024 Forecast
17:34 - The Graphene Age
19:02 - Graphene Adoption Curve
20:09 - Graphene Batteries
21:34 - Wrap Up
#Graphene #Talga #Beeasy #Battchat #Batterytwitter
Intro Music by Dyalla: Homer Said - Věda a technologie
Again you managed to explain a complex issue pretty easily. What people need to remember that, as Neil deGrasseTyson said many times, carbon has more ways to combine with itself and other elements than all other elements combined. And carbon is one of the most common elements in the universe after H, He and O.
What may be missing from this video, and what you address in one of the next videos, is how a relatively small amount of, some form of graphene, enable other materials to be stronger and have a better conductivity then itself on its own.
That's a great quote by NDGT! Great question how so little can stretch so far:
1) Usually these things are done by weight. If you fill a 1 liter jar with graphene, it only holds 70g or so. So, even a few weight percent of graphene in a volume of a material has a massive impact throughout the volume.
2) It's so extreme in it's conductivity and strength.
Combine 1 & 2 and that's pretty much the answer. 😃
The Limiting Factor Neal Stephenson wrote an SF book called The Diamond Age in 1995 where he explores a world where carbon based nanotechnology is ubiquitous. In this respect Diamond Age is comparable with the Graphene Age. The term Diamond Age was coined by Ralph Merkle who together with Eric Drexler popularized nanotechnology.
Nico Veenkamp I love that book. FYI The young lady’s illustrated primer was actually inspiration for the kindle.
@@NicoVeenkamp There was a "Diamond Age" episode of Naked Science where they explored diamond applications and diamond semiconductors. I however spoke with a diamond material scientist who said that effort had flopped. It would be interesting to see what graphene could bring back, and more information on the 1.1-degree magic angle would be very interesting to cover too.
@The Limiting Factor
You forgot to mention that with large machines, we can now scale up Flash Graphene fast and cheap enough. That wasn't mentioned in your video.
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You will see the term "Diamond Age" in one of the videos from the "Graphene playlist", please start at the top, watch all videos from top to bottom in that order, and no cherry - picking through my other channel.
The graphene age, thats the first I've heard that term and I don't think it will be the last.
The "Graphene Age" isn't new, I've been mentioning it in comments under other videos for a year and there are other videos on this.
The video doesn't mention Flash Graphene, especially large machines that can now be used to make it, we can now scale up Flash Graphene fast and cheap enough. That wasn't mentioned in this video.
czcams.com/video/hKIqgD-Aeds/video.html
Graphene playlist. Watch all videos from top to bottom in that order. And then check the articles in the playlist description.
czcams.com/play/PLAUtk-Q2DF7wXgENPNkvc5JXH5ocia_Fo.html
All the playlists on the channel.
czcams.com/channels/B9ezXYprgvhMaPWLhyoJ7A.htmlplaylists?view=1&sort=dd&shelf_id=0
Videos with important info for getting around my other channel. Don't forget to check each playlist description for links and info, please check that "after".. watching all videos from each playlist. And please watch all videos from top to bottom in that order in each playlist.
czcams.com/video/yrOcrSeC3LA/video.html
Don't forget to check for updates, as I do update my other channel a lot.
You will see the term "Diamond Age" in one of the videos from the "Graphene playlist", please start at the top, watch all videos from top to bottom in that order, and no cherry - picking through my other channel.
Excellent work. Very comprehensive and applied information on grapheme. Thanks alot.
The best informative video on graphene that I've found 🙏
Thanks man! You're the first person who's said that!
I'll be keen to watch what comes next! Nice adding Neuralink footage there!
Now thats what you call a deep dive.
Would love to see a comparison between the covalent bonding of carbon to silicon as they each have 4 valence electrons.
Silicon has been on my mind... 😃
Agreed and agreed.
I am spoiled for choice here :)
Thanks!
Tesla Model 3 uses Silicon Carbide for its main inverter
www.worldsafetytrust.com is producing graphene medical face masks. They are also getting ready to launch water filtration.
@@Arcticwhir Pardon my intrusion but are you saying the car motors are AC? What Hertz do they operate at, if so? Are they multi phase?
Thanks for increaseing my knowledge about graphene very informative video.
Outstanding review.
Excited to watch this! :)
WOW! this is "Beautiful Mind" kinda stuff! This is like the brain smoking pot but without smoke or pot. Keep it coming!
Thanks you for the excellent work.
This is so exciting. Your content is great.
Thanks for the support Dennis!
Meanwhile ... new subscriber. Very impressive. Well presented. Excellent, objective content.
after watching half of the video, I had a thought whether you are planning to look into what Novonix is doing - and a while after you confirmed that you will.. what a nice conversation :D
Two scripts finished for Novonix. I'm waiting for Chris Burns to review them :)
@@thelimitingfactor can you provide links to these follow up videos please or create a video group on your channel for Novonix please?
I'd also be interested to see your take on Boraphene in comparison to graphene and graphite in terms of battery manufacturing.
I don't know how I overlooked this video last summer, but better late than never. You're in great form here, with those analogies to cookie sheets and bookmarks.
¡Gracias! Es el mejor y mas claro video sobre grafeno. Motiva a trabajar en este campo.
De nada 🤠
Great upload!! thx for all you do!
Amazing job, I like how in depth you go, while still making it pheasable for someone who is not an expert to understand
Excellent talk
Outstanding lecture many thanks
Another premium quality episode.
Thanks man!
Real great explanation! Thanks!
Much appreciated! Great work.
My pleasure!
The name of your channel reminds me how, though we are confined by physical and spiritual principles, the fulfillment of our desires is unlimited because of the design of love. Something that is primary to happiness and family love which certainly is worth mentioning and more. Thanks for all your work. Truly brilliant and remarkable what your mind can handle !!!!!! Inspiring !!!!!!!!
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What about using one-layer graphene as a conductor instead of copper in batteries and motors? Maybe rolled up to form a wire with some kind of separator between layers. Maybe the substrate used for bottom-up formation could be the separator.
Woven carbon nanotubes are possibly a better candidate as they form fibers by innate structure and have the same properties as graphene.
Excellent video Jordan loved it
Thanks Ron! Much appreciated 🙏
Love your content!
I appreciate that! Thanks for the support.
That was so interesting, thank you!
You're most welcome!
A good production and a through explination.
Another excellent video. Thanks
You're most welcome Eamon! Thanks for watching.
You're so smart, please cover all the materials needed for the transition to this new age!
Thanks man! I"m thinking I'll do a materials video at some point. :) People like to learn about products.
You are the best. Thank you so much
Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Phew! My head hurts :) Thank you though, very important new knowledge indeed!
There is huge benefit in space and aerospace, look it up 👍
😮 wow I will need to replay at least 5 times
Par for the course, but you'll gain knowledge every time.
Interesting stuff
As the people before me already mentioned, you have skills! Your voice is incredibly soothing and the video is very well explained so that even those with limited experience can understand :)
So thanks!
Great video
HOly Shit! I've been waiting for this! This channel is so damn underrated!!!
Thanks man!
phantastic. thank you
Cool you make the future sound awesome I always thought maybe we could squash graphene into place between two rollers
You might also want to include some video getting into the implications of isotopically pure carbon.
Good shit man
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Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. 🙂
You're very welcome Trish!
@@thelimitingfactor I have a feeling the problems are going to be solved much quicker than what's currently expected. God Bless!
Battery tech is a really exciting topic to keep track of. Will be seeing massive progress there sooner than we think
You mentioned that carbon could be made with less-structurally-sound larger rings. Makes me wonder about whether such rings could be formed "bespoke" into "far harder than diamond" repeating structures, that are closer to a "woven textile" in design, or high-carbon steel at a micro-scale. (I.e. With interlocking rings of carbons that, if weaker than c6 tiling by themselves, would be strong if they were linked together like chain-mail armor.) A larger version of this would be weaving together ultra-long SWNTs with each SWNT forming "a single thread, to be woven." This stuff is fun to think about.
Of course, it was nearly all predicted by Drexler's "Engines of Creation."
Edit: Sure enough, my memory was correct. All kinds of geometries are possible. Here's a white paper discussing them, with a graphic. It's interesting to imagine A long wire of SWNT running down the middle of a long stack of the hexagonal toroids. Would it be ultra-strong and ultra-tough? Would it carry current without breaking? Once ultra-long kilns exist, reality is going to get weird. Ideally, we all live long enough to put our brains on a mostly-carbon neuron substrate.
Superb!
Thanks man
Is it possible to obtain the source you used for the 2024 forecast of Graphene use? Would be very helpful, thank you.
Well done.
Cheers man!
I am curious about the possibility of using graphene in ultra-capacitors. Can this improve energy density enough be used as a battery.
I’ve been teaching my 6 year old grandson on the conduction of electricity starting at the atomic level. We’ve experimented with different conductors and played with photovoltaics and how photons excite the atoms to release their electrons. He gets it totally and very often comes back the next day with questions that I have to dig into in order to explain because the answers are beyond my current knowledge. Your video is exactly what I’ve needed to explain the basics of carbon to him. He will completely understand this now .
Having only a high school background in these subjects I’ve had to spend my life learning this independently and content like yours is a bonanza for my 70+ year old mind to keep up with. What a wonderful gift to have found your page and you are helping to explain a complex subject to a young and very curious mind. You are opening a lot of hidden doors in his life. Thank you for your efforts
Thanks for the kind words man! I appreciate it! I'm glad the content is useful.
appreciated this vid...did you do more vids on graphenes? ( didn't see them on your channel)
Hello! Just this one. Had to cover other things.
Will there ever be voidless carbon-carbon structures?
This is a fantastically clear introduction. I've only had inorganic chemistry in University.
I haven't studied carbon-carbon yet. Carbon is such an interesting atom. So many different materials that can be made from it! Thanks man!
It's in the shot too
Now that it is mid-April 2022, how does the timeline at 19:10 look? On track? Any additional phases?
Lovely
The potential around this as a water filter (desalination and micro-plastics) is interesting.
best video on entire internet related to graphene
Dude, Really enjoyed this. Thanks for the work youve put in. I feel I owe you a beer.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Shane! The comments make it all worth while 🤜🤛
Exceptional content - thank you 😊
is there any possible way for you to put the bottom up and top down graphene production methods in PDF or wordoc. I'm currently trying to doing a project on graphene and it would be much appreciated and most helpful
How much graphene would need to go into copper to make copper wire a lot more conductive and if it been used many years already will it be a marked improvement needed?
thank you so much for your work.
This is real research and education
You're most welcome!
I believe that graphene is the material of the future.
However, few people seem to talk about the possible environment impact. Carbon is pretty much eternal. Carbon fiber doesnt degrade and stays in landfills for very long time periods.
Are we looking at similar issues with graphene? Or are there people working on finding ways to recycle graphene materials after the initial product has expired?
Thank you! You are able to find the goldilocks zone of teaching. Not to simple, not too complex... Just right.
Browse Log9 materials who have already developed various graphene models for different applications and have already launched a couple of Applications based on it. Currently working on the energy applications of Graphene
Wonderful. When will Talga make money?
It would be real nice if the carbon source for mass scale graphene production can be the mountains of discarded plastics in landfills.
@ The Limiting Factor - Do you have the option to set Google Translate (speech to text) so that your speech is automatically translated from English to Danish text?
Thanks for your informative posts! I will be Patreon's supporter from August 1st.
Google translated from Danish to English
Hey man, I'm not aware of any ability to change the text-to-speech. Except for possible changing the subtitles to english so that it translates into Dutch? I don't know how to access text to speech and wasn't aware that it was available in CZcams.
would appreciate understanding how the mining of graphite is going to affect the industry - ie Gratomic Limited
What about a life-straw type method of starting with graphite at the top, slowly descending into a lesser volume 'tube' while tethered on the other end by graphine.
Once it's tethered, a simple gravity drop should/could pull it out like taffy.
And by tube I mean literal in a sense, but whatever can step down the layers. If it can be tethered in this model as abstract as it is the strength alone should hold through the pull.
Just have to figure out what the 'tube' could be. Some sort of bond separator and imposer....
gracias por la data
Say welcome to Carbonext Inc. This company successfully produces graphene inexpensive and in commercial scales
Thanks for this. for the first time i have seen through the graphene and its role in the future. Great Master Class!
@The Limiting Factor I am watching your videos at 2X speed ;-)
Lol, you beast! Thanks for watching.
@@thelimitingfactor You are beast! Thanks for your content.
I could see future with #graphage trending but for now I want to know your thoughts on flash graphene
Awesome video, you nailed it, can the graphine nano flakes be added to a clear coat to make it more scratch resistant vs al203 or si02, bust still retain the clarity
Well, graphene is transparent, so I think that part would work. However, I don't think it would change the hardness, which I think is what dictates scratch resistance. I think where it works best is for resistance to rust. Massive sea trials going on at the moment with it. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@thelimitingfactor Graphene is not transparent. Sheets reflect the light, but in mass it appears black.
Interesting
Jordan, speaking as a avid follower and investor in the Graphene story since 2016, I have to say that this video is simply the best explanation of Graphene and its potential I have yet seen. Brilliant, Especially on standardisation which is so important yet rarely covered. But when it comes to the commercialisation there is so much more to say than just Talga. Please do a piece expanding on this aspect, focussing on the work of The Graphene Council in the US and Manchester University’s GEIC (Graphene Engineering and Innovation Centre) in the U.K. And get to know Versarien, the real leader in FLG, the only one globally whose process has been yet been validated by The Graphene Council as scalable few-layer Graphene, as well as by the NGI in U.K. and also in China. Now collaborating with the likes of AECOM, Airbus and Rolls-Royce at the highest end of tech for Aerospace, Construction, 3D printing, textiles etc. With a very approachable CEO in Neill Ricketts, who has also just launched the first fully approved K95 Graphene enhanced anti-COVID face mask. As you say, it’s all beginning to happen with Graphene!
Great masterclass. It really gave me a good understanding of Graphene. What is the expected upload date of your Talga video? Thx
Thanks! Tomorrow DPMG drops, 2 weeks from that date is Novonix business model, then 2 weeks from that is Talga...one month. The script is with Mark Thompson right now for review. The talga video will just be on the anode. I may do a video on the future on their graphene products.
@@thelimitingfactor thanks, sounds very good. I also did some research and found the company Aixtron. They manufacture the machine that was used by MIT for the CVD process, if I understood correctly:
www.aixtron.com/en/innovation/technologies/pe-showerhead-principle
BM Pro: www.aixtron.com/en/products/BM%20300T_p96
Could their tech be a chance to have more widespread use of the bottom up approach sooner?
@@thelimitingfactor Any update on your Talga thesis? Do you see any catalysts short term?
You stumbled on to the second top lost case research blunder after fusion energy:
GRAPHENE!
What a Bummer !
Still you get the like and respect :)
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Excellent, informative video as always. Also, I love how the Hype Cycle for Emerging Technologies looks just like the Dunning-Kruger curve.
LOL, never notice that. Genius.
This is an incredible explanation, the first time I heard about graphene was 9 yrs ago from Michio Kaku. Do you have an email address?
Michio Kaku is a crackpot. Lol. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.
Jordan, thanks for all your great work. For some reason, all your videos make my Apple TV3 reboot. Apart from the occasional hiccup, I've never had this consistent failure. Maybe worth investigating
Huh! Weird. I would have no clue where to start on that one. I don't have any tools at my disposal - all the technical guts are on google's end. My only suggestion would be to send a complaint to YT/give feedback. I don't get any special treatment as a content creator. My only guess is that it's to do with the 60fps framerate. If it doesn't happen with my earlier videos that might be the case.
@@thelimitingfactor thank you! Will see what I can do from my end indeed. Hope to see loads more of your videos!
Has anyone explored mixing ultra fine graphite into a component of high density structural foam? Would the rapid expansion of the foam create graphene? If it does, the foam could be the next generation building material and dozens of other uses and if you want just the graphene, dissolve the foam.
Extremely informative video, especially the comparison between graphene and graphene oxide, thank you!
great video, thanks.
You're most welcome!
Are you talking about flash graphene or more graphene "chunks" ?
I avoided it because it doesn't appear anywhere near viable. All these things are presented by the media as a done deal and the universities sometimes somewhat encourage that so they can get publicity.
Great content quality as always! Really enjoy your videos Jordan!
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So graphene can be grown on copper but cannot easily be removed. Does graphene retain it's super conductivity and strength while attached to copper? Would an ultra thin copper sheet coated with a layer of graphene be useful?
I haven't looked into this yet, but my understanding is that the electrons move at the surface of the metal - so I'm assuming yes 😃
What companies apart from Tesla will benefit the most from graphene technology? Brilliant as usual by the way
The companies producing it and doing the research to get it into products. That's why I liked Talga. They have a research team of 20 phds.
@@richardvivian3665 there are positives and negatives to both synthetic and natural. This will be covered in the next few videos.
Did you mention the idea of placing a thin copper wire into a solution that includes graphite, and then running an electrical charge through the wire? The result would be deposition of the graphene onto the wire, and a stronger graphene wire because of the copper inside the wire.
Watch the video and find out. Or, if you're lazy, you can just word search it.
what type of graphene does flash graphene produce? few layer or nanoplatelets?
I haven't looked into. But from what I saw it resulted in powder, which would be flake.
What does recycling graphine or products with graphene look like?
Highly recyclable is my understanding. I'm not sure what the process looks like.
I would like to see a comparison of hemp and graphene conductivity in nanosheets.
hmmmm...hemp...
I heard that hemp was used to build a car body in the past. Great results not sure why it did not go into production.
Awesome video, as usual. Is Tesla engaged in Graphene research?
No indications yet. I would say no. Maxwell tech has a similar effect but also reduces cost and increases energy density.
Jessie Chimni there are some companies like Skeleton Ultracapacitors that are developing and producing high quality Graphene Supercapacitors that has way more Power density than conventional Supercapacitors.
So informative. I managed to understand it more. Please keep up the good work and more videos this year. Keep us up with updates.
Its real education program i have got a lot of knowladge .very valuble production to the world
At 20:26 the chart for fast charging batteries you see LTO and Graphene for fast charging. LTO cells have -40 to 140 degree range with a 5 c charge/discharge rate and 15 miliohm internal resistance, 20000 cycle life, what will graphene do to help this battery? LTO has many great features that for my use and makes other batteries a poor choice.
A very different use case. This is for the cathode I think. This is to actually increase energy density is my guess.