FINALLY! A Graphene Battery That Could Change Everything | Answers With Joe
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We've been hearing about the potential of graphene for decades, and yet very few of the big promises have come to pass. But a new aluminum graphene battery design is coming out this year that could charge a phone in less than a minute, and it may be the future of energy storage.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Graphene Surface Area
1:00 - Lithium Ion Issues
3:25 - The Promise of Graphene
5:28 - Supercapacitor Basics
6:47 - The Graphene-Aluminum Hybrid
7:28 - Cell vs Pack Density
8:42 - Prototypes and Further Advantages
9:40 - Isn't Graphene Expensive?
10:40 - Graphene From Trash
11:34 - Some Hurdles Remain
13:07 - Sponsor - Curiosity Stream - VÄda a technologie
I've had a few people point out that my $1000/kg price for graphene is way overblown, since GMG (the very company I talk about in this video) have claimed to get the price down to $2 per kilogram. I kinda sorta just a little hinted at the fact that they are bringing the costs down, but I didn't put it into numbers.
That is really something I should have explored more in the video and looking back it was a missed opportunity because that's an important and interesting development.
None the less, we appreciate your time and work. đ
If you're not learning lessons in life, you're not doing it right. My New Years resolution this year
Another thing I like to know is how much graphene do they actually need for the battery? If it's holding charges so well, I imagine it would need much less graphene than lithium for the same amount of energy.
Thats incredible!
Good on you for looking into it! Itâs a very good video nonetheless
Don't forget, just like graphene Joe, you still have potential. It doesn't matter when you tap into that potential, just that you do. And I think this CZcams channel is a great platform to get out science based material and delivers it in a way that is understandable. Thanks for sharing your potential!
Thanks Coach đ
what a weird comment.
@@Mr1121628 what? The future of our nation depends on people like the Joe's and Hank Greens of the world. CZcams is a wonderful edutainment resource and those I want to do well, I want to provide support to them, even if it is hokey.
@@joshcampbell5159 People like you are important too, the ones who actually realize what an amazing gift the internet CAN be, Mr11 is probably only 11 years old, to him showing any sort of appreciation to fellow humans is considered "cringe" or whatever.
Well said sir!
Incredibly good video Joe!
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This reminds me of early Li-ion. Took 20 years before it filtered in the market when I discovered it working at a big alkaline battery manufacturer. At the time Li-ion was already 20-30 years into development. These things take time indeed.
@hen ko So true, but they are also correct. We have groundbreaking functional battery technologies in the pipe. Problem is if you invest 6 billion$ in a factory, what if someone the day after invents a 50 times better battery ? We need governments to pull together and make it happen. We have a serious problem to solve, and developers and investors are to small in the separated market today to lift the task at hand. Perhaps multiple governments creating an Umbrella organization to make it happen is the answer.
@@TrickOrRetreat Good point. Maybe if we still had a public space agency to research stuff like this then we wouldn't have gotten trapped in this lithium economy from hell.
@@TrickOrRetreat Governments donât function nearly as well as you think. Get a bunch of governments together on a project like this and they will end up entrenching the wrong technology by putting too much money in that encouraging very sub-par development. Remember, weâre talking about technology that isnât even ready yet. Thatâs a hard problem, and how do bureaucrats direct research they donât even understand?
@@abj136 totally agree.and the projection is real
Wow so there is hope on graphene ones
For that âGifted kidâ whoâs now making content for CZcams, sounds like the story for a ton of ADHDers.
You have attained a level of success that is helping the world through informing and entertaining people, and I for one thank you for it.
Hello there
no one cares about all these videos with magical battery solutions. stop making them for easy money. we want actual REAL batteries that can be held not BS
also sounds like untreated sleeping problems like sleepapnoe
@@Blox117 He's literally just explaining a theory of how these batteries would work IF they were being implemented. If you actually watched the video, which you didn't, you would know he said MULTIPLE TIMES that use of these batteries in the future was unlikely. Also you're replying to someone's comment, not the video. Get off CZcams gramps and spew your senile garbage somewhere else.
The $1,000 per kg is not accurate. GMG is producing graphene for less than the cost of graphite. Putting it closer to $2 per kg, not $1,000 per kg. They're most definitely real batteries and should be to market this year! $GMGMF $GMG.V
I work on the electrochemical properties of graphene. I've started to joke about graphene as follows:
Graphene is the material that can do absolutely anything..... except leave the lab.
That's funny ! I ride bikes and we heard so much about the new kid on the block ( graphene) and how it was going to change the way bike frames were built , but we still waiting
@@jimbo4203 oh, you are absolutely right. And that is the exact issue. The bottleneck for graphene is not processing, or even raw materials. It is all about synthesis. I can confidently say that the person who finds a way to scale graphene production in a cost-effective manner will be a billionaire.
Here is a variation: Graphene is the material of the future ... and it always will be. (Hopefully that is not true, I'm really excited about the possibilities that Joe has shown us!)
I am personally excited to see graphene used in auto sport (I assume by that time sport might be the only permitted use of internal combustion engines) first for body panels, then eventually maybe for engine parts, imagine a connecting rod or piston that weighs a few grams or so is stronger than chrome moly alloys and has the heat properties of the graphite coating currently used in some of the best engines (bmw S54) only as a thin layer on piston faces
@@scvcebc I like that. I'll start saying that too!
This video has made me more optimistic about graphene, I was starting to look at it in the same way as nuclear fusion. A wonder technology that will change everything, which is perpetually 'just around the corner'.
Here's hoping graphene is 'just around the corner'
For real this time.
The company I work for, Wholesale Graphene, already makes it at $20/kg.
0:11 The conductivity of a material doesn't have much to do with the surface area, but it's about free electrons available in the conduction band of the material.
Graphene is like fusion, we are always just a few years from getting it.
Same with a breakthrough in battery technologies, always 5 year from now.
well said đ
We have both, its just practical application that's holding things up.
As a 40-something (equally questioning my remaining life's potential) I remember having a science poster of the Bucky ball in my bedroom in the nineties, and being quite excited about what it could mean for chemistry, computer science and all sorts of scifi. It's been slow going, apparently, both graphene and me...
You should go to college!
{it been slow going, apparently, both graphene and me...}. But, you are making it. And that is all that really matters. Well, maybe not (ALL). I'm sure you would have like to complete this project many years past. So you can take the (next step). And you would have. Except for (politics). Any great paradigm changer like this, will cause all of the roadblocks the system has put in place (engineered to fail). This kind of tech will cause all of those (stops) to fall over. Of course politics will put the clamp on this awesome tech, for as long as possible. Turns out, (as long as possible), was this long. (Slow going), true. But it happened.
My first encounter with Bucky balls was a novel by no less luminary authors than Arthur C Clarke and hard-scifi maestro Stephen Baxter, "The Light of Other Days". They had Bucky balls as the key to a micro wormhole generator that could look back in time! Talk about exciting potential!
the "I Am Graphene" bit was so unexpected to me that upon beginning to laugh, my body decided to instead inhale some mouth juice. Thanks for the minute long coughing fit, Joe. I'll be expecting a full shipment in the near future plz
This is by far the channel I watch the most. I love that you cover so many topics and I love your insights. I send your videos to my friends and fam all the time and I always learn so much!
Youâre awesome Joe!!
I was still in highschool when everyone was hyped about graphene battery technology. I have a job, a wife and a kid now.. I'll probably be a grandpa before we see this technology in consumer devices
Probably a good time to invest in it. You might end up with a nice little golden egg.
Nuclear Fusion will be cracked when graphene is
@@PemboCycling why's that?
@@PemboCycling hilarious enough, we further away from Fusion than graphene.
like you can buy graphene, it exists and it is here now... is just expensive
while fusion... well we still can't make it self sustaining, much less extract energy from it
@@khhnator more of a problem with the cooling the super conducting magnets. Amongst many other things.
10:50 You should probably search "James Tour, Processor Dave" before mentioning him.
I went down into the comments to see if someone else had brought this up. Upvoting for visibility.
Yes, he has dumb takes on abiogenesis and evolution in general but we shouldn't discredit his work just because of it.
I love how far tech is coming! Very good video Joe thanks for all the time you put into it!
The fact that GMG is working with bosch makes me excited about them
At his point, for my sanity, I just assume that all graphene related technologies will not happen in my lifetime. Better to be pleasantly surprised than constantly disappointed.
There already is a battery chemistry much safer and more resilient then nickel magnesium cobalt or nickel cobalt aluminum. Lithium iron phosphate. The patent on those expired so now everyone in China makes them. You can get them in base models of their EVs as well as the Chinese made base tesla model 3.
Pack density is comparable to nmc and nca batteries due to omission of liquid cooling.
It was Ben Franklin who said, âOptimist are often disappointedâ.
Really liked that intro,
Would be cool for Joe to get outside more often!
Keep up the great work Joe!
I know... 17 years watching his casts and only today I learned that he has legs.
I thought it was a good visual and I was looking for excuses to finally use my drone. :)
Considering that I wear shorts like 90% of the time, you'd think they would be less pale.
@@joescott you need some graphene shorts :)
Thanks for this video Joe. Great job
Love your channel, it's always so interesting.
Graphene is one of those technologies that, if delivered on, will solve a good chunk of humanity's problems. If people focused on it as much as they do on marvel movies or johnny depp then we might actually be somewhere right now.
Lmao too true. Whatever we get, or donât get in this case, we wholly deserve it for being a trash society and a trash species tbh
It won't solve many problems, rather, it'd just introduce a new level of commodity for those who have the money. People like to believe these inventions are almost magical when in reality it is just one of the many technologies being researched on until one of them takes over and the rest are forgotten, it always happens. Also there is not a single advantage of the average Joe knowing or trying to "focus" on the existence of these things, as it wouldn't make a change nonetheless
@@javierflores09 Memes help spread awareness, and awareness leads to rapid development. That's the advantage of the average joe knowing about this.
Graphene, as joe said; has been talked about ad nauseam for years. I vaguely recall hearinv about it when i was in high school and i graduated almost 15 years ago.
@@javierflores09 Commodities are often some of the least valuable materials on the planet, because theyâre just that, commodities. Yes, there are many expensive commodities, but the useful ones are relatively cheap, due to the feedback loop inherent there. Thats why most businesses do all they can to avoid their produce being a mere commodity.
If graphene becomes very useful, it sill be because it has gone down in price dramatically. If it doesnât, then its not that useful.
I rarely comment however when I do, it is because I enjoyed the content. Honestly, the best part, that provided light to my morning, was the puns and dad jokes. I don't know why but this video would not be as successful without it. Thank you for all that you do!
Pretty sure his videos would do just fine without the puns and jokes, most of us are here to learn about stuff, the humor is just a nice bonus
I'm sorry Dawn but I must disagree with you. I don't care for Joe's puns or jokes I find them lame at best. I do enjoy all of his videos and never miss one and I like it when Joe goes off on one of his tangents but I don't think he is not funny.
I never comment but here is a comment
@@Stranger69in i never reply to comments, but i am today
Itâs Joeâs personality and ability to make the content interesting that makes the channel successful. His humor is part of it. Even if not everyone loves his humor, itâs part of his personality, and I doubt many people who find Joe off-putting watch many of his videos.
Joe, it is great to sometimes start video outside from studio, really refreshing, thanks for that
Joe I want to take a moment to recognize you for leaving the house to add that paperclip/tennis court production value to this video! Very nice!
Two guys from my school knew there was a kind of shutdown switch for the science classrooms, so they put paper clips into the top and bottom of the sockets and then flipped the switch, making them all explode at once. Joe's just reminded me of that đ€Ł
Is this in the days before resetting electrical safety switches ?
there's a saying in sports training that an overnight success usually takes about 10 years. While the period of preparation varies in other fields, the same principle is pretty universal. There was a time when steam engines were mere curiosities. And then they had a few niche applications. And then we all know how that turned out. Same with cars, computers, and mobile phones. Or how the fusion naysayers shamelessly update their derogatory joke from "50 years away and always will be" when I was a kid, to "30 years away" for a while, and now say "fusion is twenty years away and always will be" without any sense of irony.
@@edwardfletcher7790 15 years ago in the UK, so I have no idea?
@@edwardfletcher7790 just looked it up and it sounds electrical safety switches are the same thing as fuse boxes... in which case the school would have had them, but it wouldn't stop a spark and pop from the turning on of the outlet while the paperclip is in.
@@baggaz167
I'm not sure what he's calling safety switches. If he means just the breaker or a gfci receptacle. Either way you are correct they would not stop the receptacle from going bang. The electric would just be shut off immediately after the pop occurred.
Oh Joe you are so punny; don't ever stop! Love you for it as well as all that you bring to us!
12.5 times the cost for graphene doesn't actually sound too bad. Depending on the device, if I could spend 12.5 times more for a battery that charges extremely quickly and holds a large amount of energy, I'd go for it. Though I suspect that there would be a ton more factors to consider, each of them potentially adding to cost along the way
I feel strongly that thermoelectricity will have a materials or physics driven boom in our lifetime. Iâve seen things like flashlights already that charge from the warmth of your hand. What kind of tech would we see if the efficiency doubled or tripled?
If it gets to 50 degrees you could use them to power the air-conditioning. Could you use air-conditioners out in the open to cool the planet by using the heat of the air as energy to run the air-conditioners. The hotter the air gets the more it is cooled.
Just saw an article the other day talking about some new improvements in thermoelectrics. If memory serves they created a thermocouple with 15% efficiency which is around 3 times better than those commercially available now.
Joe, I've been using a graphine thermal pad for my CPU for a few years now, and it's awesome. I don't have to clean up any thermal compound when swapping out my CPU's or coolers.
These thermal pads are usually graphite. There's also graphene and graphyne, all with different properties, and then the modification does matter aswell i.e. sheets vs. tubes.
@ContradictoryCrow My CPU's tdp makes the Bootes void seem tropical.
Man if this works well I feel stupid not using one of these for builds lol
That is super awesome but at least I don't swap my CPU often enough to throw away my old can of thermal compound. It is like what, every third year?
Sure, if it is more effective it might be worth it but my CPU is usually steady at 37C due to the liquid cooling system so I don't really see the need for it.
I admit that my old AMD Athlon from way back would have needed all it could get though, that sucker got hot.
@@cc-dtv It performs worse than thermal paste, but is totally fine for 65W CPUs w/o overclocking.
If you want your PC to be as silent as possible or you want to increase the performance via overclocking, use paste.
In high TDP scenarios the difference between paste and graphite pad can be up to 20°C.
I mean, there's still this wonder material Germanium, which can be made in hexagonal shapes (hexagonal SiGe) to emit light - directly inside a chip, allowing for laser emitting chips for communication or do calculations with light. SiGe can also be used to create bipolar transistors ... so I guess we could make tri-state processors with them or reduce the size of the current processors.
And also Germanium is much "faster" than silicone based chips, as the electrons flow a lot faster through the material, and thus you can archive more clock cycles.
This would be a great topic for Joe to cover.
@@Megabean it's also not science fiction, silicon was just chosen in the early days because of the toxicity of Germanium (in the used GeAs form) and the more easy manufacturing. The Cray-3 has actually used them, because they were faster back then.
But they company got bankrupt while building the Cray-4 and also the 244 MHz of the silicone technology back then has seen massive improvements, because of further miniaturisation.
But as we really seem to approach the limits what's possible with silicone, we may just wanna look somewhere else. :)
There's pretty new research on this topic from 2021, which claims Germanium could be used to reduce the amount of transistors be 85%, which could basically also cut down the energy consumption by a similar factor.
Semiconductor photonics are limited in size by the wavelength of the light used to power them, making 5nm features impractical as you would need an EUV/Soft X-ray source of light, needless to say you probably don't want photons with that much energy flying around your nuts. This is a very well studied field, with a lot of applications, high density ICs will require a few breakthroughs that are not on the horizon now as far as i know though.
It's only been in use for..... As long as I can remember (and I'm "getting on")
@@RubenKelevra I've heard of research projects (but haven't heard of any results yet) of trying to use the diamond allotrope of carbon instead if silicon for ICs. Theoretically much higher temperature resistance, lowering the need for cooling electronics. I don't know about how quickly diamond based transistors can change state vs. silicon or germanium.
Hey Joe, Iâm doing a mini binge, just want to say two things:
A) thanks for the content
B) CZcams chose to put an ad about 5 seconds into your sponsorship announcement. Since the algorithm-ing of your stuff is a concern, thought Iâd let you know.
Thanks again for all you do!
Brilliant. Learnt so much from this. Thanks :)
This channel is SO MUCH BETTER than 'Answers with Schmoe'.
Your puns had my inner dadness chuckling so hard. I watch your videos every week because you make them great, thank you Joe!
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I'm glad the puns work on some people - they make me cringe ;)
Wow that intro was wild Joe. Nicely done!
I used ultra caps in my car for my stereo lol... yes, they were extremely powerful... I loved them đ won 1st place in competition. I always knew they would be the future.
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I love the opening with the onsite tennis court. You could have just used some stock footage like 99% of similar channels. We notice these nice touches and they elevated the quality of your above so many other channels.
Graphene has continued to be the next fusion powerplant. Greatest possible solution to the problem, 30 years away.
It's actually kinda worse now as in many regards we've discovered new metamaterials similar to graphene that beat it in each category.
For examples, Hafnium-tantalum-carbon alloy is now the metal with the highest melting point, aluminum-oxynitride is an incredibly strong transparent material, stanene seems to be a new super conductor capable of remaining super conducting up to 100C vs graphene which is only a superconductor at 1.5K or -279C, and Boron-Aluminum-magnesium (BAM) is the most slippery material slicker than ice and similar hardness to diamond.
Graphene is still really cool, but it's no longer the only metamaterial with actual promise in modern material research.
And in general borophene is like a graphene successor disregarding price, manufacturing, etc
Don't forget adamantium, pretty durable.
@@palleppalsson Unobtainium is superior to adamantium in almost every regard
@@Schattenhall yeah but we had to go all the way to Pandora for that stuff. The shipping cost is enormous!
@@Schattenhall oh yeah, but can it neutralize devil fruit powers by emitting sea-like energy?
In that Kairoseki > unobtainium
that side shot was so perfect
One of your funniest and best. Congrats!
I just want to take a moment to say that I appreciate the background music. It's subtle and it makes the whole video that much more enjoyable
My AdBlocker cuts out the background music! Yay!
@@RealJeep how does adblocker cut out music thats in the video?
It's really in the details. But you know this. It's exciting to know that graphene seems to hold the key to that renewable resource we desperately need to combat the negatives associated with petroleum exhaust. I'll keep my fingers crossed just like you. Another great piece. Thanks for all your research and keeping us in the know.
Agreed. Really loved to see this and the tennis court as an example of surface area was mind boggling.
It might be interesting to know the process to turn graphite into graphene cause, like cars, zero emissions does not mean zero pollution. It does not matter if it comes from an exhaust, mining, a chimney or ends up in a river. Nothing green in a Tesla.
@@haarpanoid as far as I know graphene is made from gases containing carbon (e.g. methane, as mentioned in the video) by depositing them on a surface under very specific pressure and temperature.
@Crootcovitz Graphene doesn't make energy....it stores it. Where you think that energy comes from.
@@nengyang1895 I didn't say graphene makes energy. I said it's not made from graphite. Not on an industrial scale.
AWJ is like a weekly vitamin pill for my brain! I love it and I always look forward to the next ep. I donate 1 dollar per month. Not much.. but if a bigger percentage of the subscribers does the same we can all enjoy AWJ now and in the future!
Great video
You are appreciatedâ€ïž
The fact that they are actually making batteries already is super encouraging! I feel like a lot of these promising technologies never leave the lab, and even if this never progresses beyond the 1.7v coin cell, that's still awesome! Anything we can do to reduce our dependence on slave labor is something we should absolutely do
Figured it out. Long live the SPQR.
If the cell can be made thin enough, just combine two cells into one coin cell package to have a coin battery of 3.4V. That said, there are some devices that use alkaline coin cells, that have the same 1.5V as regular AA and AAA batteries. (Obviously less watt-hours because there is less material, but those devices _do_ exist.)
I'm not one who gets optimistic often, but once a technology gets to the point it can be used in niche applications that really need it despite the extra cost, unless there's some hard limit to how much of it can be made such as if it requires a rare element, the manufacturing process often evolves quickly and the price drops. I think there's a pretty good chance we're about to have another explosion of battery technology like when lithium ion hit the scene.
Slaves make batteries?
Imagine if they had adopted the electric car instead of ICE cars. All those years of lithium mining, we might now be pondering all the oil in the ground as a more abundant source of energy.
Joe, I don't know how you do it, but you make leaening about battery types interesting. You're doing great!
And he thinks he's mid tier which is just bonkers
Was he the guy on pbs space time? I like how he talks.
Joe is the BEST!
INTERESTING and entertaining, as are all your videos. I am like you; whenever I hear the words "battery" and "breakthrough" in the same sentence, I just immediately think of something like Solid State Batteries which look good on paper, and can power a car for a thousand miles, but can't power themselves off the lab test bench and INTO a car. The battery making it to actual commercial use will thus forever be "three to five years away". I call this the breakthrough horizon because it recedes as you approach. BUT, because you are awesome, I listen, learn, and enjoy, and adopt a "wait and see" attitude. All good wishes.
SSB are more than lab tech. Though not yet mainstream, I am aware of them being used in transportation (buses). They may not be coming out with a bang, but I think they're for real.
It would be great to see a combination of the two, a fast charging "buffer" capacitor that can offload it's charge to the larger and slower chemical battery, perhaps even work as a good power source for energy spikes. That way we get some of the benefit of the cutting edge without the cost of a complete conversion. We already see a similar kind of tech in storage drives for data, which is why large data transfers often start fast and then slow down once the super fast buffer fills and the input slows to match the overall rate.
It's important to remember that it took scientists decades to develop and refine the production of silicon after its potential as a material was learned.
Incredibly important note. It was also a few decades between the engine and actually practical vehicles
Thanks again Joe! Great video! There are some interesting things going on with sulfur anode and silicon separators that are worth looking into. They may allow for fast charging and high energy density.
So happy to see folks from the great state I live in, Queensland, possibly coming up with the next game changer battery tech ...keep on keeping on!
VERY interesting! There are so many electricity storage ideas out there right now. Something HAS to click and make it!
I will be following this idea.
You know what they should do? Offer a supercharger smartphone for the rich, they don't care about paying 5k in a phone if that means they would never run out of battery, and even if they do, they can charge it within seconds. Then use the money and the experience to found research to make it cheaper to produce.
That was pretty much Tesla's strategy. Make high-end luxury electric cars and then after they got enough investment and profit, start making cheaper models.
Soooo, Early Adopter Tax... pretty much what already happens as is.
Premium products with top of the line features, what a concept...
Their business model is based on Planned obsolescence, selling junk is more their style
Hmmm. I think youâre on to something here. You have discovered Marketing. And you wonât even have to teach it to anyone as the university systems already have that covered for you.
Excellent content as always.
I serious laughed so hard at these puns. Made my day. Keep them coming! Love ya Joe
Eleven months later, Iâm still waiting for the changes. I wonât hold my breath.
Thank you for this month's "battery changing breakthrough technology". I promise to hold my breath until the first battery using this technology comes off the production line.
You can breathe easily, they've already produced some, you would know this if you would have watched the video with a semi open mind.
@@Minuz1 Unfortunately "some" ain't "production".
â@@aceroadholder2185 In October of 2021 GMG signed a deal with BOSCH to build a factory for G+AL batteries. It is currently being built in Brisbane. It's real whether you like it or not.
@@silverywingsagainIt's also not really out on the market yet.
Unless you see a product sold with a graphene battery and it actually IS a REAL graphene battery AND it works without too many weird issues, please don't hold your expectations in the sky.
@@Tyiriel Investors generally aren't interested in building factories for technology that isn't real.
Speaking of graphene, there's a 3-part series on here about a guy who faked all his research work (on superconductivity) so spectacularly that he was on his way to a Noble until he was caught. It's mind blowing đ€Ż
Then there is Elizabeth Holmes .... What will happen to her? Probably nothing. See you in September.
"...on here..." where can one locate this 3 part series ??
It's not current then?
Thanks for the coverage on one of my favorite investments! Great job and happy 4th
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I Love every video you & your team produce. Always educational, funny, & overall heavily entertaining.
I hope that You & Your Family are doing great, staying safe & healthy Joe.
Cheers,
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4:09 Graphene is like that gifted kid who graduated high school at the age of 12, was forced by his/her parents to go to an Ivy League college, earned a PhD by 18, moved away from parents and ends up working part-time saying mainly "Would you like fries with that?"
One of the best episodes in a while. Don't get me wrong all the episodes are good. But some just stand out for their excellence. And this is one of them. Good stuff sir.!!!
I shake my head every time someone says quote-unquote and then they say the sentence they want to be in quotes. You are the only person that I have seen that does it the "right way" @ 11:12. You say quote, then you say your sentence, and then you say unquote. Keep up the good work Joe!
The head down and âYeah, I know!â Made me subscribe
Borophene is apparently the next wonder material. Similar properties to graphene but easier to produce
How many thousands of battery breakthroughs have we heard about at this point that never amount to anything?
500,000
I like this guys presentation. He is so expresive and informative
When it comes to "on the horizon" materials science I'm most excited for the combination of protein folding and cas9. Mastering protein synthesis and production could lead to some pretty crazy stuff!
Are you bullish on Nautilus Biotech then? I'm holding shares...
I am super excited about this. The big question is how many charges until they reach end of life. The price tag would be so worth it if the charged fast and say quadrupled battery life while being recyclable and made of plastic, total win!
The composition is just graphene and aluminium so I don't think it has recharge cycle limitations. GMG CEO stated that the theoretical upper limit of the pack density is about four times Tesla's current batteries and 60 times faster charging. Crossing fingers that they succeed in bringing to market batteries with even half the theoretical performance, that will be game-changer
Literally just watched a video about this and assumed it was just another 'breakthrough' that everyone will forget about in a week.
If you're covering it then I have slightly more confidence, but I'll believe it when I see it. Battery tech and nuclear power are always close to breakthroughs that never seem to come.
cause the companies lobby the american government
I think I've read news about a "new revolutionary battery finally here!" for 20 years now...
Too much money involved in the competing technologies. It would be nice to have an immediate pressure to switch off of fossil fuels. Something like a global toxification of the environment... you know something that kills tons of people every year
They should just make a bigger battery for super fast charging, rich people will buy that easy if it's as good as what they claim it to be.
I love your sense of humour, never stop! đ
Cool vid. I've definitely read a lot on Graphene, & it'd be nice to finally see it implemented into a product.
But like success, the easiest hardest thing to happen, is the 1st step.
Great to hear a local Aussie company is making graphene batteries!
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Ions and Igens and Ears oh my! Illarious,H! Thanks for the vid, always enjoy them. So many use cases for graphene, always interesting to see the progress being made that isn't always available for study, patents and such, my hope is the the technology will lead to some answers in quantum application.
Nice! I have been studying about Computer mice of all things, and mouse mods and a trend with it's wireless mice is that they keep re-engineering them to be lighter and faster. One of the ways is that the voltage that runs the system is dropping. Whereas older gens used to be 3.3v they are getting down to around 1.7 volts, as well as modders convert the wireless mice to LI ION to save weight and even some coin size batteries. I wonder if these new coin batteries are in someone's mouse?
Love the puns here, nice work on the content team! I like the precipice it feels like we are upon with so many amazing technologies we are working so hard at to meet the urgency of the situations at hand. Great time to be alive! Cheers!
If all information was presented like this I would learn so much more top notch yet again
10:51 Wait... _THAT_ James Tour?!
UUHHHHHH well hopefully he's better in his own field đŹ
james tour vs professor dave
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The graphene that Graphene Manufacturing Group produces for these batteries does not cost $1000 per kilogram. It costs closer to $2 per kilogram! Amazing stuff they are doing here
Yeah, I've been called out on that one by a few people. I think I worded it inelegantly. Might pin a comment with a clarification.
@@joescott no worries! Very exciting development
Who says itâs $2, you canât get anything made for 2, just Wages in itself would make it cost more
@@vlad69 Someone's never heard of mass production have they?
A gram covers 10 tennis courts. $2 for a kg (that's 2.2lbs) should be enough for all of us to experience.. I hope
I love your content. Don't doubt yourself!
Damn, that ~40 second intro, with the little drums, great explanation, lav mic and MULTIPLE CAMERAS!?!!! Oh yeah, youâve earned yourself a subscriber in under a minute of video!
The new Tesla packs the cooling is done through one of the plates the batteries connect to, with the batteries bound in resin. A structural pack, so that current cutting edge density might be higher than you think.
Fast charging can only be done at the top speed of the network supporting it. And the network can only support a maximum amount. A super fast capacitor filling station would itself need to have graphene capacitor banks to act as the storage tanks, similar to a petrol station's tank storage.
Plastic powered rockets....UK has an interesting take on getting rid of trash :P
Charging stations wouldn't necessarily need something as fancy as graphene capacitors because weight isn't an issue and size isn't too much of an issue either, they could just dig a big vault underground.
@@danieljensen2626 I chose the material I did as it would have to be able to discharge just as quickly and lithium ion was heat up losing even more of the stored enegy to fight that.
The National and home grids would need a massive upgrade to handle it otherwise, and frpom all indications, local authorities are determined that no such upgrades will be made at all.
If a home asks permission self fund an upgrade to the power lines to thier abode, it is typically denied in full. At least in the UK, SO EVs adption could end up reversing at present... So much for the 2030 deadline.
The wonder materiel does no good if the power cannot be delivered, oir if EVs end up getting a bad repution due to a not only a lack of support but the opposite there of from 'authorities'
I think graphene batteries would be the equivalent of a "killer app" for electric-alternative adoption. EV cars, for instance, I've argued won't replace gas-automobiles in America until we have a solution for "refueling" at the same speed as someone would expect to spend time at a gas-station - and this could be it. Even for low-capacity battery storage, if recharge time can become near-negligible you would see a huge increase in demand and also a huge interest in suppliers of electricity (since they should be seeing revenue potential from that too; literally selling electrical energy hand-over-fist to repeat customers).
when I listen to you in the morning
youâre literally morning Joe
I just love Joe's self depreciating humor! đđ
Capacitors seem better than relying on chemical reactions and have come a long way. Like all the promising new battery technologies, it will take years to catch up with the manufacturing scale of Li-ion. That's okay, because we will need multiple technologies to scale to the eventual global needs.
Caps work in storage, maybe local buses.
High volume (low volumetric density)
Fast charge (30 -60 seconds at the stop)
Too large for cars
@@rogerstarkey5390 - Do graphene caps have low volumetric density? (Or capable of such with technological improvements?)
Don't be too hard-on yourself, Joe. You bring a lot of value to humankind. 1.4 million subscribers is nothing to scoff at. You're awesome.
Nice to see more positive videos. It would cool to see a video on 2D materials of which graphene is included. I think your viewers would be interested in the different âpuritiesâ (forms) of graphene (one/ two layer, flakes, magic angle, etc.). Keep up the good work joes!
Hell yeah, I'm excited by it!
cool and all but I'll not buy into any hype until the technology has proven itself in every day circumstances
For the past five years, every week on CZcams a new video is released which claims to present info on "game changing" battery tech.
I think it would be interesting if you reacted to your videos pre-pandemic. So much has changed, esp what our future what going to look like, vs what actually happened.
i"m so glad you went to a tennis court to make a visual reference for what 9 other tennis courts combined might look like!
I imagine the main reason Graphene hasn't taken hold is just because there isn't a worthwhile product - like a battery - to make it worth major mass production.
Hopefully this is the product that realises the wonder material, because then we may finally see it take hold in other industries
Lol and the trend of random Murican measurement units continues with: tennis courts đ
How many US citizens have actually seen a tennis court, in all honestly..?
I think the majority of us have SEEN a tennis court⊠the question is, how many of us have actually used one. Iâve driven past plenty of them on my way to McDonaldâs many times đ
OK, just convert it to Big Macks. And for hill folk - skunk skins.
Thanks!
What I really want to see in my lifetime is technology mimicking biology. There are a ton of interesting interactions in biology that we simply can't compete with. Imagine if we had batteries that used synthesized fatty acids and converted them to ATP as a way of storing energy (There are issues with that, especially if we're trying to limit C02 Production) but there are tons of other natural systems that do things in a significantly more efficient way then our technology.
This was something I wish I could've invented myself since I knew that graphene had the stellar potential to replace basically all batteries and as Scott's great video showed this can and will likely happen (ofc it takes a lot of money and resources to pull off-something I lack). Assuming everything pans out, then this graphene-Al battery will make Li-ion pretty much obsolete.
If they can also reach the theoretical limit of 1 kwh/kg and can charge 70 times faster than Li-ion and ofc is price competitive, then it's game over for other lesser battery technologies. It should also be a lot lighter which is great for the aerospace field. Additionally gasolines energy density is about 13 kwh/kg, but only 30% is turned into energy so it'd be 1/4 as energy dense as gasoline...if it works, it has a bright future ahead.
Thanks Joe!
This would work great on an electric bus, wouldn't need to think about trolley buses you could just have it recharge at every major stop, then maybe, along with improving rail infrastructure and portable light weight solutions like e-scooters and e-bikes, we could eliminate the need for cars almost entirely, which is by far the best solution to making our lives greener and our cities more livable, especially for those who cannot afford to invest in expensive, space wasting cars.
"battery technology is evolving so fast" - dont know about that. I remember some 10 years ago, i was reading about different battery technologies being developed and there were some real amazing promises done that within 5 years time things will change dramatically. 5 years later, in 2017, I've read other articles about battery technologies which were amazing as well and they were supposed to change the world in about 5 years time. Now, another 5 years later, we are where? Yet another 5 years before some major breakthrough will happen? and then what? Another 5 years?
Yes, my newsfeed has a "revolutionary battery" every week. I believe it once itÂŽs available at scale.
Well to be fair, my wireless headset from ten years ago was charged for 3 hours and it was heavy as hell in comparison to my wireless headset today which holds literally 30 hours, charges in half an hour and is light as a feather and only costs a couple of hundred euros. I think there is definately some progress there. I think with other electronics the issue is just that just as we perfect the battery the electronic itself starts using even more power as its more powerful so in the end it feels like there was no progress.
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Yes, batteries did definitely improved from what they were 10-15 years ago, its just the main device what we all have and where we all need more capacity than it has is a mobile phone and 15 years ago mobile phones lasted for a week without problems, so it feels that there is no improvement in batteries since now we need to charge our phones every single day.