The Path No One Chooses For CHINA - UNIFY Peacefully 😩
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- China! But democratic* Master the 10w hoi4 combat width division and take over all of china and defeat the Japanease. Its like hoi4 cheats but lots of fun with hoi4 no step back. Democracy is here!
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Hearts of Iron IV is a grand strategy wargame developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Released on June 6, 2016, it is the sequel to Hearts of Iron III and part of the Hearts of Iron series of grand strategy games focusing on World War II. The player may take control of any nation in the world in either 1936 or 1939 and lead them to victory or defeat against other countries.
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#hoi4 #nostepback #china - Hry
Taiwan?
Taiwan B)
West Taiwan.
-9999 social credit score
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Taiwan = Real China
Seethe commies
Украина.
A bit of history in China: In the few years after the Qing Dynasty falls, Republic of China adopted universal suffrage, but apprarently didn't work well. The industry base was still very weak, plus an unstable central government and a divided country. The election didn't manage to sustain for long. Local warlords only built their own railway systems, which is basically what you see in the game.
"didn't work well" aka the elected temporary president forced a rigged election, then proceeded to crown himself emperor.
@@maxchioa7822 right. and at that time most Chinese people had no idea about election, the hereditary monarchy has lasted thousand years after all. This is a background reason why our first president thought being an emperor might be a good idea.
There were books and newspapers introducing these western ideas, but majority of the population cannot read.
@@CeruleanxD 太认真了点，何必在意，改变的机会千千万，铁打的饭碗世世传
@@CeruleanxD I completely disagree, Mao was a psychopath in comparison. Mao 100% did not shy away from mass death. Chiang Kai Shek was also brutal but simply calling him power hungry for the sake of wealth makes no sense, the man was clearly a nationalist and this is shown through his desire to reunify China at great risk for pretty much his entire life. The Chinese people are indebted to Chiang for the next 10,000 years for his contribution towards the War of Resistance and Republican period like the great generals of old.
@@CeruleanxD I do not subscribe to Chiang slander :P
This is my kind of thing, I want to see more Democratic challenges like this.
Yeah, like maybe forming the EU?
@@keisari9151 Taureor did a video where he formed the eu as democratic germany
@@koppi9278 yea, I know but it would be interesting to watch feedback do it.
Okay Soyboy
Bad taste
I love how everyone bitches of Chinas railroads in this game, when those rivers work as tier 1 railroad in the beginning.
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15:27 You shouldn't garrison the coast line, but you _can_ garrison *only* the ports!
That way, the Japanese _do_ land, but they cannot get supply, and become pretty easy to take out.
(you *do* need to keep an eye on it, and have enough defenses to not-lose any of the ports tho)
Since no step back they tend to land land with a half army and they land next to the port as well (also somehow seem to not suffer from fucking supply mechanics) so if you guard only the ports you lose
An issue with using garrison orders in any capacity is if there are any enemy units in the states you give defense orders for, a good chunk of the units on the order will move away from their ports to fight those enemies. Meaning every time a naval invasion happens, divisions will get pulled off the ports that aren't getting attacked to fight off the enemy invasions, which could leave openings. The defense AI does do a *decent* job of pushing invasions back to the sea, but it's always better to micro and not rely on garrison orders. It's best to let them pull off multiple naval invasions and hold some land (not too much, though, you don't want to give them a solid foothold) because they'll stretch themselves incredibly thin that way and their armies will be even easier to crush than if you didn't let them take ports.
This is how I managed to get the Allies down 3mil. I love getting rid of their best troops and equipment before doing any naval invading myself. Personally I just set specific orders with C instead of V cheesing the coast line as my A.I tends to show more A then I when I have defend orders on.
@@ertrick3693 just use fallback lines bruh
@@anomaly0039 Yeah, that's what people were comparing garrison orders to, lmao
fun fact: I don't know if anyone cares, but he actually speaks xibei san ma wrong. You say c be not c bai. Xi in chinese means west and bei means north. San means three and Ma is a last name in Chinese. So Xibei San Ma literally means three dudes have last name of Ma living in north west of China. Btw shan means mountain so Shanxi means the west of the mountain. Sin means new and kiang means territory so sinkiang means the new territory.
Pretty Cool. Found it interesting
Isn't Xi pronounced Shi?
@@pubcollize no. Chinese pronunciation is different than English. You kind of pronounce xi like “she”.
@@matthewwong944 well OP said the "xi" in "xibei" is pronounced "see"
at this point it's a meme...of 3 years now.
Hey, this is my kind of thing. Seeing the lesser-used focus trees and strategies is interesting and how new metas are found. Keep doing things.
:)
@@DaveFeedBackGaming I agree. Please keep doing stuff.
I was just chilling on my phone when youtube screamed at me Democratic China from Feedbackgaming and of course I clicked instantly
Me too
Love it. Never have the time to go down the niche focus trees. But love watching a video about it to see if I miss out on anything
Do NOT garrison the coastline, only the harbours with 2 divisions each. Let them land, contain them and roflstomp them when they run out of supplies.
That’s a really good strategy
I advise the opposite: Garrison the coastline and micro so that only the ports hold, that they take the empty land.
It's better than not garrisoning because if you are focusing on the north, they won't interrupt you as easily and have you to divert forces needlessly.
Also they don't do damage to your buildings and disrupt your industry.
Also, you can cheese the supply system as china even more. There are a lot of rivers and they count as railroads. strategically placing supply hubs at riverbanks can save you a lot of railway building. AND rivers can not be logistic-bombed themselves.
Though granted, unless you do some bad moves this will not be necessary. Still, using rivers as railways is an overlooked feature.
I did not know this. As what level railroad do they function tho?
@@RK-cj4oc as the level 1
If you want even more core attack you can stack the 100 regiments offensive along with the other 5 and 20% the focuses give you
If you play in china again I believe I have found a way to exploit the AI. The Japanese AI seems to be hard coded to do two things: launch a massive naval invasion at the beginning of the war, and redirect troops to that naval invasion if it seems to be going well. However, Japan doesn't have that many divisions early game. That means that if you give up northern china at the Marco polo bridge incident, Japan will not have enough troops to both man the boarder and launch a naval invasion, but they do it anyway. At this point you can have more than enough army's to cover the front and I have been able to push Japan out insanely fast bc there is like one troop per tile. Sometimes they even pull troops out of the north to reinforce a naval invasion which makes it even easier. Just give them the land. They don't have the divisions to defend it. I've done this twice as normal china and it works really well but idk if it works as other China's
i gotta give this a try next time i play as china
@@disappointedmess209 possible important note is I did use the extra time to take out commie china and a few warloards which gave me a long boarder. Idk if that will effect your game but just so you know
I remembered that one Sun Tzu's quote that says something like "You should give up territory and save men, because if you lose men the territory will soon be lost anyway, and if you save men, you can take the land back"
@@dapygor9339 think Mao said it in the in game quotes but perhaps he was quoting Sun Tzu himself.
14:04 hahahaha naughty naughty
mufti malm
I liked the idea of this path but I find its execution lacking. You cannot form the People's Republic of China, and you don't turn yellow and just become "China", you just became an inflated Communist China, stuck. It's a minor dumb aesthetic change, I know, but it gives some feeling of accomplishment, at least to me. Like you've done something other than become a bigger blob on the map.
True. Only mao can form PRC
@@DaveFeedBackGaming Well, Mao and the pro Soviet path
Which is stupid as hell. If not PRC, then you should be able to form some other named goverment. Democratic Republic of China for example - as you play as "social-democracy" or something that gives you some boosts.
@@azk9218 I mean, the kind of countries that have "Democratic" and that kind of things on their names aren't usually democracies, so it kind of makes sense why they wouldn't use that or PRC xD
Well, since I'm making a HOI4 Game with a Left KMT I guess I should take note.
Amazing video, was looking for a No Step Back Guide for Communist China for a long time
11:37 they are connected through a river, no? There is that blue line, which I think is equal to level 1 railroad
China is super fun this patch with the new supply system!
hell*
Dave your social credit would be -99999999 now ......
I'm playing golf
I guess YT flag the title , now it shows Unify China instead .....
Hey Feedback! Chinese guy here.
Anyway, here's some unneeded translations + pronunciations for your perusal:
At 2:40, Xibei San Ma (西北三马, lit. "Three Mas in the Northwest") is pronounced "see-bay san ma".
The "Beard Man" at 1:56 is Zhang Lan (张澜), a member of the Chinese Democratic League.
Chiang Kai-Shek (蒋介石, Jiang Jieshi in Mandarin) is mostly correct. "Chiang" is either Cantonese or Taiwanese Standard, I forgot. For Mandarin, it's "[jee keep it short]ang jee[eh] sh[ir, more emphasis on i]". Gaah, Chinese pronunciation is so hard to explain!
At roughly 10:50, Yunnan (云南, lit: "south of the clouds"), is mostly correct.
At 13:18 - Sinkiang (新疆, lit: "new boundary", aka "East Turkestan" or "Uyghurstan") is pronounced "seen jiang" in Mandarin. Let the world know I tried.
I _will_ be salty about the "Permit Opium Trade" focus. _Reeeee opium doomed the Chinese people_.jpeg
Also Based TNO Long Yun NPA path???//? Good work mate!
What's a Ma?
@@flameoguy3804“Ma” refers to the warlord family in charge. It’s their surnames. Sorry for not clarifying!
You're from Taiwan or real china???
@@gladys2563 China is west Taiwan
12:40 well it makes sense
Spies tend to go to big cities where decisions are made instead of of rural areas/villages.
Geographic intel isnt hard to get and often not the most important.
I choose this option ALL the time. If you play it right, you can effecively annex China with 0 fighting, get their whole army and subjugate the warlords and have time to spare for preparation before Japan attacks. Plus, my guy has the best beard!
Honestly that is one magnificent beard. Also my Nordic heart just soars with the idea of a social democratic China against Imperial Japan.
Remind of that very old thing where you could give up all your land to other country and then play as them. Unified chjna is January 1936.
You still can
This is my kind of thing, I really want to see you do the awesome paths that don't lead to achievements so I don't have to play 6 hours playing them and getting annoyed by the AI and bugs without even an achievement as a light at the end of the tunnel👌
16:45 "opium is god" -fbg
2:19 might be one of the best references you've done so far
Love ur videos
I prefer to do the democratic stuff, not cause it's always rewarding, but because I like to think the (admittedly not existent) people down there live better lives
well liberals love to be delusional
@@americancommunist6076 Says the American tankie...
@@kapitanbach7411 I know, I can't believe I became smart when I was born a fucking american lol
Larp
@@americancommunist6076 :(
Certified BING CHILLING moment
One thing about naval invasions. The air will attempt them regardless of what you have on your coast. So when they attack retreat the attacked units not on ports and immediately destroy them
Hey Dave, really enjoyed the background music. It’s groovy.
I actually do that path, because the only bad thing about it is the PP, otherwise you're really strong
and you cant declare peoples republic
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Nq
This is my kind of video! I love seeing the less beaten paths
Man I love this game, it’s got so much alternative content, so much to do and it’s so rewarding when you do something right. It’s one of my favorites even though I’m probably the worst player out there.
I love this type of videos! Huge fan!
I think you are the best hoi 4 youtuber I have found in years of playing this game, keep up the great work 💕
Really liked your new approach to play those rare focus trees.
great video
I dig stuff like this
keep it up :)
Man ,I do love you ❤️🙌,keep making us happy 💙
I just did this the other day and it shocked me how easy it was.
I had alot of success defend lining the port + 2 adjacent coast tiles, exhausting landings next to and onto the ports enough to crush them. Also it's good to have separate defending templates if you can afford them and a little special force to get back the port if a landing happened.
Because of the rivers you have pretty decent supply when not in the north.
That ending what a jumpscare
Can you give us tips on how to use Mages in the Youjo Senki Redux Mod? Because that mod is based around them but they give negative organization so it's hard to figure out how to use these glass canons.
Pssst, love the thumbnails ;)
0:37 - Tsk, . . Man, hey!
They where testing it out; to see whether or not they could build it . .
I can’t tell if I want to, or if I’m even capable of learning this game this well
Awesome video, great game
Could you do a video about the best offensive defensive unit. I had success with an artillery unit supported with infantry but last time I tried it failed to break Germany, it not very good with all the stats but with everything changing I don’t really know what is a good standard unit anymore
whu wouldnt u use area defense to defend all coastal tiles or port and get entrenchment there? also 75-% naval invade
The legend has appeared
This is the path I always chose. I don't see why one wouldn't do this one.
IIRC ISP did go down the same path as Communist Shanxi.
Hey! This is my kind of thing.
9:05 ogs remember cheating the monroe doctrine when playing in america
this is my kind if jam. hopefully a chance to learn and not only cheese
Hey this is my kind of thing, I want to see more of this.
Please Dave do the Qin China with this last dlc, I did that challenge with you last year and was so fun to play
As an Asian social democrat. This is my exact kind of thing.
One of those I didn't watch but am finishing up later.
Can you do a anarchist Spain walkthrough?
Sure
I cant hold the line y Beijing even if I spam last stands and micro constantly they just constantly attack so I cant move units
hey, this is my kinda thing! i want to see more playthroughs of focus trees no one takes!
is it a bad idea to remove all of ur ports so that when u get naval invaded they are on low supply?
A humble suggestion. If you're doing these path showcases, could you give us some time to read the event popups?
I went down the focus that he said no one ever goes down the day before he posted this video
Based
please when you read a letter "I" written for any Asian language read it as "Short I sound like 'i'f or 'i'mport also letter "G" like 'G'reece or 'g'as never read the letter G like 'g'eography or 'G'eor'g'ia
PLEEEEEEAEAAEAEAASE
Alphabet is not made for English only
I didn't got it, what's the problem now?
@@neso_003 the way he pronounce 2:41 Xibei San Ma
Cool so it's "Xi" the "i" like "important"
Which country are you from?
@@neso_003 yes exactly
00:23 Loved the SW meme
“How dare you” xD
Fantastic idea here
this is my kind of thing
Hey! This is my kind of thing! Some other nice underrated focus branches you might want to do are Democratic Germany and Orleanist France.
Eyy… this is my kind of thing!
I like cool focus tree demos! MORE
Play as the soviet union, relese and play as Ukraine and annex Russia
Can’t release nations as Soviet Union unless u go for Trotsky
Stop monetizing current tragedies.
@@Harrisooon You can if you dismantle Russia through the game rules before starting.
@@Harrisooon You can if you dismantle Russia through the game rules before starting.
@@CunnyRape moment
Hayyyyy this is my kind of thing
I actually mostly do this Path while playing PRC
Love this content
Yes not garrisoning your coastline can be beneficial to destroy Japanese units. However you get the same effect by allowing them to solely land on provinces without a port and guarding your ports. The AI doesn’t just naval invade ports, it invaded around them as well. In my play through I garrisoned each port and had two reserve armies to crush the Japanese when they landed around the port.
Allowing them to take a port is simply asking them to bring more troops in. By the time I invaded Japan they had less than 18 divisions. So to anyone who thinks letting them take a port is ok, it’s not. You risk more by doing that, you risk a hell of a lot less by letting them land on other provinces. You gain the same advantage both ways.
Not worth the risk
It’s a lot easier in in Crusader Kings 3. Just have a bigger and better army than everyone else and make them an offer they can’t refuse.
Watching this is better than a tutorial!
Love it
Hey, this is my kind of thing!
Is this HOI4 with feedbackfaming? We like it. Personally you could do Germany for the 100x and we’d still chime in and watch you. It’s always good shit.
"hey, this is my kind of thing!"
General Secretariat… their leader is the General Secretary so you are giving more power to that role.
Let's goo Dave
Gone reduced to atoms
This actually is my kind of thing :D
Star Wars meme = instant like
An Abu Layth meme 😂 "YOU NOTY NAUGHTY U TEASING ME"
I didn’t even know voting in states existed in hoi4
You change your supply capital by clicking the little star in supply menu
Did title of the video changed, or I just finally went insane? I could swear video was called something along the lines of "Democratic China"
I do wonder how many of these would still be viable against either a smarter A.I. or during a multiplayer game? Because some of these seem very good, but only work against the A.I. being flawed, and would be terrible against human players, especially if they’re playing meta
That is a good thing. I would hate it if i hadd to play my best every time for the few hours i can play after work at night.
None of them
@@DaveFeedBackGaming Idk, I’ve seen some of the nation strats you’ve done in some online sessions…Just gotta bank on player incompetence somehow being worse than the A.I.s
This is definitely my kind of thing
Lol, the railroads are connected by a river. Hey, this is my kinda thing.
When I play China, I just build WW1 era guns and spam a shit ton of shitty divisions and for some reason it always works
Man said lyrics from 3 songs in 10 minutes
But why don't you garison the port ? Keeping them out of suplies once they have landed
Because it's likely then that the Japanese units will just encircle the port and destroy the division there which in turn means that you ultimately lose a division or more in the long run
@@TheToby121 You forget, the Japanese navy exists and they will go ham if they get the chance. Especially pre pacific war.