The 10 Worst MMA Takes From Mainstream Sports Commentators
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“Quitting is built in to MMA,” he said moments after Wilder’s corner threw in the towel
Its so lame its sad
quit - to stop or discontinue and action or activity...so technically it is built in given the tap, it just doesn't mean anything like the disrespectful way these idiots try and use it. Good analogy to make him look stupid, because that's "quitting" just as much as tapping, it just doesn't mean giving up like this stephen a is making it out. So disrespectful to the athletes, I don't care if it's a sound bite or not!
@M Ralte it's Wilder who quits before the fighting starts not Cerrone lolx
Thought the same
@@truecrimejungle The same thing can be said about boxing, you can verbally quit aka "verbal tap" and your corner can throw in the towel. There is basically no difference so the dude didnt know what he was talking about. Totally agree with ya.
Making stephen a the thumb nail was a conscious decision
Smith was right.
and yet it turned out stephen a was 100% right
Cade Cosmo no he was not, cowboy said he didnt want to be there, doesnt change the fact that mcgregor fucked him up like 90% of his fights
@@recipoldinasty And Cowboy still quit and folded.
Woooow you people literally know nothing 😂 Smith knows fuck all. McGregor came in the murder gear, anyone would have folded literally anyone. Busted nose and a direct head kick....fuck me.
1:50 Fun fact: The guy on the left is Magnus Carlsen, the best chess player in the world. That day he had a brutal diarrhea, so he agreed to a draw with the other guy and left the place ASAP.
wow fun
so he kinda gave up.... lol
@@kieancoba7661 accepted a draw noone won
@@kieancoba7661 No, just no. You're just as bad as Skip lol
That's a complete bullshit story btw
hearing you guys talk about tony vs khabib 7 months ago breaks my heart right now
Considering the skid Tony has been on. Khabib would have had his number. Not saying Tony couldn't get it done but if they fight 10 times. Tony wins 3 of them.. Maybe
@@aleksanderkeca3110 tony probably wins 0, khabib would have to be way off his game
@@aleksanderkeca3110 we all knew tony would lose, we just wanted to see it
Rest in peace to the game son
Was literally just thinking this khabib would've beat Tony, was obviously a reason it fell through so many times
I know my mans a sumo wrestler but he ain’t no west cost sumo wrestler:Nate Diaz
🤣😂
Lmao
Whoever corrects the spelling is a homosexual
Fuck sonnen
Lucius Pl fuck you sonnen is the greatest p4p fighter ever never lost a round
"He used sumo style wrestling.he dragged him to the ground and he pinned him..he pinned him."
- man who should never be allowed to discuss MMA again
Skip is a troll
Or Sumo for that matter.
That's not even sumo style wrestling lmao
Skip doesn't lie he over exaggerates everything he says.
you missed the first part. he describes him as 40 pounds more. best part
Stephen A was the perfect thumbnail 😂 that dude flips his opinion like he’s making pancakes
Thats his job lol
Ironically he was actually right about cowboy
@@Micisme86 Exactly, lmao😂
stephen a thinks that jiu jitsu is an anime
but is his job... max kellerman job too
Tapping out is part of the sport
In boxing you’re literally allowed to hug your opponent if you want a rest
there’s clinching in mma too kid
@@_zachmcall but the clinching is done to afford better opportunities for grappling. In boxing, clinching is just a dead-end mean to protect yourself. One has a purpose of continuing the fight the other is just a break in between rounds
@@sweetneko1257 nah you can work in the Clinch in boxing if you do it right. It's just that it depends on the referee for how long they let you work in there. Watch julio cesar Chavez and Roberto Duran for example. You can also press a dude up against the cage for the whole round and stomp his feet and even win by that. You can't win a boxing fight by clinching
@@_zachmcall yes and then you eat knees and elbows or get taken down.
@@_zachmcall i don’t think you understand clinching in mma and boxing😂
Steven Seagal: "So i told nate diaz, use that sumo wrestling technique i invented."
Speaking of Steven Seagal, nothing beats that moment where he shouted "combination" to Cormier in his first fight with Jones lmao
🤣🤣🤣
Floris I dunno, that time he said he taught Silva the head kick gets me every time
F M Steven seagal cant get his leg above his knee
The champ champ thing Is a very real thing he can’t even get his third chin above his fourth 😂
"Skip Bayless Gets Everything Wrong" could be the accurate summation of his entire career.
I hate him
Besides one NBA take about gsw
He's a senile moron who should be unemployed
Skip was right on Tony vs Khabib
should be the name of his talk show
Ngl Stephen A's video of hitting mitts was really impressive. I've actually never seen someone throw so many hooks without getting his hands anywhere NEAR his face to put up a guard.
I don’t think that’s anywhere near as bad as the fact that his lead left was being thrown at knee level💀
@@bigpapi6688 Gotta go for the legs though. Can't check a leg jab 🤣
@@Bowfella For real, if someone started the fight steady jabbing my thighs and knees, I'm pretty sure I'd be confused enough that they'd have an advantage.
I grew up a boxing fan and one thing I hate about boxing these days is how fighters protect the 0 on their records. We get boxers fighting tomato cans just to pad their record. It didn't used to be like that and it's really hurt boxing. I watch more and more MMA these days.
Chael Sonnen said it best if you know what I’m referring to
This is why I respect Errol Spence and Terrance Crawford. They both had the balls to say "fuck the record, I want to be the best by beating the best."
Next fight for Dana to book: Skip Bayless vs Steven A Smith. Unfortunately I think Smith outweighs him by like 40 pounds and has like 5 inches of reach on him.
And his nasty dick punches.
smith has the technique of an infant though
@@korpurkorpur9655 or knee cap punches. Or even leprechauns head punches
Jonathan Eads skip is actually in shape
Skip is low key in great shape
The reason Stephen A talk crap to Cowboy is because....... his nick name is a Cowboy, Stephen A hates all Cowboys.
I don’t get it, fill me in
@@wesdryden2086 stephen a started his career in Philly and trolls the Dallas Cowboys all the time, it's a big rivalry.
Smiths take wasn’t off though
@@NPFfumbi cowboy was washed at the time and was somewhat of an easy win for Connor.
Smith was exactly right about cowboy. Cowboy admitted to not wanting to be in the cage in an espn interview
Dana always gives me "everyone is now stupider for hearing that" vibes when he gets mad.
“Quitting is built into MMA” lol.. I guess if you consider tapping out before you sustain a potentially career ending injury ‘quitting’ that’s cool bro...
Jesus is the truth
I think he meant that in MMA there are so many ways to win like by sumbission (making your opponent quit) and in boxing you don't have that. Of course you can quite in boxing, and there has been many and great boxers that have quit, like Duran's no mas, quitting on your stool, etc but it's very looked down upon, in comparison to MMA where it's understandable. Max is a very good boxing analyst but i think he just phrased it wrong.
Most of these dudes are provocateurs so saying junk like this is both stupid and calculated to get notice
that makes no sense.. a provocateur doesnt want to be known as uninformed or unintelligent. it's a classic case of opening your mouth and having nothing to say. everything on this list has had a negative effect on anyone who said it.
A provocateur by definition just wants to provoke a response. they don't particularly care what they are thought of afterwards they just want a response. fact is we are still talking about these things no matter how stupid they are which means the goal was achieved. It provoked a response. It makes perfect sense if you actually have a dictionary. Here I'll help you. A provocateur is one who provokes.
pro·voke
/prəˈvōk/
verb
stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Kevin Lashlee they want to be right. The only thing they provoked was laughter and facepalming. We are talking about them for being rly bad mma journalists, that isn’t their goal at all. They want to have unique provocative takes that have merit. The lack of logic removes their comments from the provocateur title and moves it into the clueless category.
No they don't they want to be listened to and people to pay them attention. Hence provocateurs. If you think that then you don't watch these mainstream guys on their own channels. Stephen A Smith basically bragged about the fact that it is his product to say things like and how he makes his money. The really good ones can say dumb things and then twist it or spin it and people still watch them and the fact that we are actually debating the things they said with any merit tells you that they are succeeding. if the goal was to be correct all the time then a lot of them would be unemployed, especially Bayless. But they make big bucks doing this bit. the fact that you assume every commentator wants to be seen as correct all the time rather than just marketable as a commentator is incredibly naive. And again you don't actually understand what a provocateur does and what it actually means. Nothing about that word indicates they have to be factual or logical. By definition they just have to get a response out of people listening and watching and keep people engaged.
Kevin Lashlee read the first sentence in your paragraph again, that is literally what I just said. None of these takes made people listen to them more, if anything it had the opposite effect. I broke it down well for you my last post. The end goal is views, calling nate Diaz a sumo wrestler or saying cowboy quit does nothing but make people ignore you.
I hope you have skip bayless talking about nates SUMO wrestling
BornTroublesome yep, he’s the best skinny kid in America doing sumo with choke holds 😝
Everyone knows everything Skip Bayless says is stupid
Skip is amazing! Said no-one ever
Lol it’s not a terrible way to describe it to casuals lol
Bmiller9219 yes it is lol
"Skip Bayless just gets everything wrong"
In other news, water is wet and fire is hot
Water is not wet.
When the Bucks won the Finals, he said Milwaukee was a small town, even though it is larger than Miami, Orlando and Portland which he earlier called big cities.
Small market is the word he was looking for
He’s playing a character like all of them. He’s paid to have bad takes
Wow a lot of ESPN “experts” on this list. Color me surprised
@Aaron B Agreed. I would love to have a beer with Shaq. Such as awesome dude
ESPN is completely lost when it's not football/basketball/baseball
That's the mothership for you...
@Aaron B and Shaq is an actual fight fan.
Aaron B shaq is a spoiled man child. He’s definitely entertaining, and I’d love to sit there and talk bout life with him, but on inside the nba he’s so ridiculously stubborn sometimes for no reason whatsoever
When I see a weigh in photo of Nate Diaz I immediately think "Sumo". Nate eats, drinks and breathes the ancient art of SUMO. Nate is a Sumo wrestler through and through. Rice and Beer is Nates secret diet. He's got to be pushing 400 -425lbs at this stage of his Sumo career.
''Oh! So you're a yokozuna now?''
Also Nates pins are second to none. How many times have we all seen Nates HL reel pins over his helpless opponents?
The refs drops down... slaps the ground ... 1, 2, 3 !!!!
And just like that another stoppage via pinfall.
SinkHollyWood ahhhh the legendary diaz brothers... known for their renowned sumo techniques and nothing else. These “professionals” seem to really know their stuff eh ? 🤦🏽♂️
He actually goes on an all raw vegan diet when it's near fights which means he only eats raw produce.
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You should be a writer with those adjectives
Aye champ. You really should do more writing. Like the other gentleman in the comments stated. You got a knack for it bro. Human grammerly personified.
Max acting like he's never heard of the phrase 'quitting on their stool'
I'm not a big fan of Nate Diaz but, the "Oh, you're a wrestler now?" quote is great.
Yeah and the I got wrestling on accident
How can you not be a fan of Nate hes a cool guy
@@karloslowry9043 define cool? Not everyone got your point of view
@@voronaofhamelin3306 why dont you tell us why he isnt mo go
I think when he said to McGreggor "and you're playin TOUCH-BUTT in the park WITH THAT DORK"
Thanks to DC, "MMA bubble" now means the one on Joanna head.
Zhang also helped with that a lot.
8:20 now khabib retired and tony on a 3 L streak
And they never fought
@@kentonlittle145 Yeah but I'm pretty all of us know what would have been the outcome
@@butterxo3094 poor Tony
@@kentonlittle145 Sad but its true
@@butterxo3094 tony by twister round 1 (8 seconds)
It’s so annoying arguing with people who don’t follow mma. One of my friends thinks that any boxer could beat the top ranked ufc fighters 😭🤦♂️
Mines says the same thing
@White Face Maybe you dont understand boxing , idk . I follow both the sports and Mayweather is the Boxing version of Jon jones . Just so technical and smart in the ring .
Also , Mayweather is retired . The face of boxing currently is Canelo or Fury/AJ
They probably could beat them.... in boxing
At the same weight in a boxing match the boxer will win.In a fight though they will lose.What is so hard to understand about that?There will always be exceptions to the rule lile silva vs chavez jr but you get my drift.
@@cono5794 Exactly. Some boxer fans are so intimidated by competition that they curl in a foetal position sucking on a thumb. The "sweet science of boxing"; talk about auto-fellation!!!
I always loved martial arts, but boxing was the only thing available on TV for such a long time.
I missed UFC #1and #2 when they came out but I watched UFC #3 on PPV back in the days; jaw dropping moment and I've been hooked since.
McGregor had the courage and money incentive to fight Mayweather in a boxing ring.
Did Mayweather have the balls to meet McGregor in the octagon?
joe rogan -" ronda isnt once in a life time, shes once EVER! "
to be fair joe rogan should be on this list for his love affair with ronda and all the crazy shit he said about her...he was one of the main reasons her hype got as crazy as it did..
@Aaron B That's why Joe and Brendan are friends. Joe would invite Brendan to hang out and bring his gf along so Joe could put in the work.
He's as much to blame for her downfall as Edmund. I don't think he has ever apologised either.
@@Stevo_CZcams That makes no sense at all. You think without Joe hyping her that her career would have somehow played out differently? Considering she was already the champion, she would have still had to fight Holly Holm... so unless you are implying that the hype is the reason she lost to Holly, your comment doesn't make sense to me.
He is a human he can be wrong sometimes, what is really concerning is all the idiots who believed him lol.
He did build her up but at the same time he builds a lot of people up and Ronda was the first of the females to be mainstream so I get it. She was just really really really exposed two fights in a row against some of the best strikers in female mma history. She's still a legend
“You cant tappout in K-1” .... “well theres no 10 count in MMA” - the commentators after Badr Hari beat Overeem in the Rematch
Lmao
The worst thing is mainstream media only takes note of MMA (UFC tbh) when something controversial happens and when they finally do talk about it they show they know absolutely nothing about MMA
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The Casual List lol
Joey Greensacks you’re not wrong.
I really stand by my idea of 10 deepest subs survived
Artie Riesterer really good one
Yes! i love this
Silva vs Sonnen is number 1, Anderson was very lucky to survive that triangle choke, also the fact that rules weren't properly explained to Chael helped him win
Great idea.
Artie Riesterer Jon Jones, Vitor belfort
watching this back and hearing the words "upcoming UFC 249" broke my heart
11:57 Punch the kid, uppercut the grandpa move. Nice.
Max kellerman forgot to put the Durand and Leonard “No Mas” Fight in the mix 😂😂😂
Blake Ranew but the fighters themselves don’t throw in the towels
I think you don't understand the point he is trying to make, he means that you can win through submission (making the other person quit), which is part of MMA and it's understandable. In comparison to boxing where the only ways one loses is thru Decision, KO, TKO, not coming out of your stool, or stoping mid way thru the fight like Duran. And if one loses like the last two scenarios you're looked down badly.
Cowboy didn’t have a broken orbital bone. Cowboy confirmed that himself
Yeah joe was talking out of his ass as normal. I like that stephen A called out that trash performance by cowboy. No need to pretend he fought well at all because he didnt.
@@colinbreland1696 Actually the UFC was saying he had a broken orbital. There was official posts directly after the fight. It came out later from Cowboy that it wasn't true.
Cowboys a slow starter and he got caught, pretty simple. Could happen to anyone. You can also say he didn't fight at his best without shitting all over a fan favorite and all around badass and legend.
Anyone who practices martial arts will understand that respect is paramount but i wouldn't expect casuals to understand this.
Huge respect to anyone who puts there health on the line and fights for a living regardless of there performance. Takes huge balls, especially on T.V in front of millions.
@@theshineyone1111 ya ya ya im a "casual" because he had a shit fight that i wasnt impressed by. Sure hes a legend but that doesnt mean he didnt have a shit fight where he fought like shit and why should we be kind about it because hes a fan favorite ? Fuck it. He made me sit through a holly holm stinkfest for 15 minutes to see him lose in 40 seconds. Thats worthy of bashing him right there. Let alone he stood still and got rocked by 3 shoulder strikes.
Meanwhile the UFC confirmed he did... as well as X-rays
@@colinbreland1696 All those times you fought obviously worked out... Oh wait..... #worthless
"Oh, so you're a Sumo wrestler now?"
- Nick "40 pounds and 5 inches more" Diaz
Cant wait until yoy guys hit 1mil subscribers. You deserve it
it doesnt sound like top 10 houses sold by al iaquinta
I have only been watching for about 20 seconds but. I want to say thank you for this list it is long overdue and much-needed.
Amazing vid. Thanks
11:44
WOW good on Conor. That's the first I've known of that Tweet. Good stuff. Apologize sassy SAS.
Luffy Chinjah dudes a fcking joke
"Jonna quit against in her fight" - Stephen"oh so you are an analyst now" Smith.
“Will finally hopefully take place”
Hahahah yeah haha....yeah
LMAO THIS DUDE IS TOO FUNNY W THE EDITS 😂😂😂 1:39 this is the reason I’m subscribed
"I'm pretty resilient to this stuff." - Dana White, aka butt-hurt over anything even remotely critical of MMA or the UFC
Not to mention he spends an inordinate amount of time getting butthurt at Instagram nobodies
He owns the promotion. What the hell do u think he’s gonna? Support shit talking about MMA and UFC? U guys are butt hurt after dildoing each other
You have to remove Stephen A.s comment about Cowboy for saying he didn’t show up after Cowboy himself admitted that was the case
Listening to the entirety of what Stephen A. Smith actually said in that postfight interview, I agree. It wasn't a good entry to begin with. Tommy heavily misrepresented what SAS said. SAS openly admitted that his impression was that of a comparative layman, but he was unable to look past Cerrone's bad performance. And while some of his speculation is unfair (like that stuff about the pressure of the big-time), he was mostly right. This wasn't some shocker like Jose Aldo getting caught in his title defense against McGregor. Cerrone just fought very poorly. He didn't perform like the accomplished veteran he's supposed to be. Cowboy could and should have done more in the fight itself and especially his preparation going into it.
jroggs85 well he got fucked up, nothing cowboy couldve done...
@@recipoldinasty That’s the dumbest comment ever. You can clearly see Cowboy was gun shy, he could’ve done so much more.
@@nicoblac9368 lol he tried what he could and got destroyed
@@recipoldinasty He tried what he could, did you see the fight? He didn’t try anything lol he did get destroyed tho that’s the only thing you’re right about.
The video of Steven A. Doing "pad work" is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. He should NEVER rep being a tough guy
ur vids have made me interested in mma and i will now watch it
I find it funny that Joe thought it was hilarious when Stephen A. said those things about Andy Ruiz beating AJ but got offended once he said something about Cowboy
You could make a video like this dedicated to be Joe to be fair. People think he's an expert but he still jumps on hype trains straight away and gets amazed when the same story plays out again and again and the favourite gets beat.. Also, always with the "The (blank)est (blank) of All Time" shit.
The favoritism is getting out of fucking control with Rogan’s commentary. The dude can’t seem to be neutral.
If you say tapping is quitting, then I can tell you’ve never been in a submission before
You always get me with the random references. “YOU TOLD ME THIS WAS REGULAR!!!!! COFFEEEE!!!!!!”
Lmao i love the sunny in Philadelphia clips in this....funny edit
Shoutout to Monday Night Nitro.
That was actually a draw that Carlsen and Vidit agreed on after only 5 moves, not a checkmate.
Great idea for a video. Appeals to all MMA fans and was a great watch.
Good stuff. Gave a like for the Farley clip.
Stephen A. was right all along🤦🏻♂️
Cowboy has come out since and said that he "didn't want to be in there" against Conor...so it turns out that Stephen A.'s take wasn't that bad at all. In fact, it was spot on...
@@apallok54 means you quit before you started
The very reason I'm not a more accomplished grappler myself. Shit is scary as hell. As soon as you step on the mat...
@@Micisme86 the mental part of the game is huge also
Smith caught ever loving shit for his comments after that fight but he was mostly spot on.
Lol I love all the sunny clips!
Great video
Boxers never tap out? Ever hear the famous "no mas"? No? Here it is for you: czcams.com/video/HZGbERQLc_A/video.html
Hurts hearing Tony vs Khabib was still a thing
Man, watching this now, in Jun ‘21, seeing how everything shook out in the lightweight division.
I just love the pro wrestling innuendos at the end of the video :D
The past was great, we thought Tony and Khabib were going to fight 😆
8:17 this segment aged like milk...
Max Kellerman saying that there is "no tapping" in boxing hasn't really thought about "quitting on their stool" as pretty much the closest thing in Boxing
I just now realized that the profile pic for this channel is a black belt around a gi. For the longest time i thought that it looked like a clone trooper helmet from Star Wars.
“Yarborough was the last fighter to use sumo? You’re going to get crane kicked in the face for saying things like that...” -Joe “welcome to the Machida era” Rogan
After that Cowboy interview, Stephen A Smith wasn't actually that far off after all.
But the thing about it is, if you know Cowboy, we all know that there are two different Cowboys-you’re either gonna get the good one or the bad one. When he’s good, he can beat anybody. When he’s off, he looks REALLY bad. It was just the bad Cowboy that night. And that fuckin idiot Smith was talkin like he knew something the rest of us don’t.
He was terribly off
@@dakotablount251
Somewhat, Cerrone definitely threw the fight though.
@@UnordoxRevs threw it how? If it was thrown hed not have been so injured. Or at all
@@dakotablount251
He indirectly threw it by not giving it his all against McGregor, thus giving him an easy comeback fight. He didn't even want to fight him that night and went down at the first sign of adversity.
Lol AC Slater in the beginning, "STUPID". LMAO that was the funniest episode, "THERE'S NO HOPE WITH DOPE."
Great job Steve!
I still laugh at Steven A punching so low imagine him trying to do that in a fight he would get kneed or kicked
Man that skip bayless one really hits different
Love the 2 wrestling references there.. nice
Tomy voice is frickin awesome. Really gives lots of energy to the video
I got so sad watching this when the Tony/Khabib fight came up :(
5 times MMA ON POINT has been wrong and apologized ?🤔 lol that one would be interesting 😉😂
Love that y’all used a Chris Ramsay clip haha
Saying tapping out is quitting is 'like saying that accepting a checkmate in chess is quitting' - well put.
To be fair, in Max's defense of the Mayweather/McGregor take, we all know that Floyd went easy on Conor for the majority of the fight. If he wanted to go all out, he'd of probably finished him within 2-3 rounds. Anyone with eyes can see that he was coasting to give the fans their money's worth. He never broke a sweat then entire fight.
Wrong
Wrong
Overhyped sparring match, that was. Fookin boring.
yes and volk let ortega lock them submissions in for fun right ?
Stephen a DEFINITELY deserved to be the thumbnail
“He landed 111” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dead
The last sentence sums up the video perfectly- "A Staggering Reminder that Just Because Someone's on a Television Show about Sports/a sport doesn't mean they know a Damn thing about MMA."
3:58 mojahed
skip was clearly just messing around
bit of a reach on that one m8
3:42 thank you man, that comment about the ratio was all I needed, cause I fucking hate it when people on Twitter say that shit
Lol I was getting kinda worried when it took a while to hear skips name on this list
not a SAS fan, but Cowboy admitted he didnt want to be there so SAS was correct so that one should probably be redacted
and he still fought as a tiger
NeverNotHoopin who cowboy? How you give him that much credit? He got smashed and trashed.
@@makkam999have you ever been in a fight and got your ass kicked? He could´ve just pull out of the fight due to a "injury" .
Anyone gonna apologize to Stephan A Smith? He said Cowboy didn’t show... Cowboy admitted he didn’t show up. And Stephan A Smith NEVER SAID HE QUIT!!!!
Hahahahaha the Clay Travis one almost killed me
by the way the short clip you showed of magnus carlson in that chess clip referring to checkmate, neither player won it was a draw at magnus's request because he had an upset stomach
I agree with Max. His point being if you lose like to an armbar for example in MMA it's much more acceptable than losing is at all in Boxing. It's why undefeated guys usually duck top talent if their "O" goes than it can ruin a career. Also the fact boxers take way more headshots with less stringent drug testing than UFC or even ONE.
Cowboy just confirmed Stephen A Smith's take, unfortunately.
MMA is huge but the pay gap between a mid level boxer and a mid level MMA fighter is rediculous. UFC needs to start paying these boys.
3:56 so that's where Mojahed got that 😂😂
9 months later and Tony has lost twice 🥺🥺🥺saddest fights ever
Smith’s take on Cerrone has been vindicated. Cerrone himself said he “didn’t show up.”