This has happened to me and its actually not as bad as it looks. Just let it rest. It actually shows the immense power of the grazing herd as a tool and demostrates how a subtle change in management can leave a dramatic impact. Youre still doing a great job. Dont sweat it, there is so much seed on that grass and you have your recovery long enough to where it will be fine.
We just had a similar situation with not so good forage. I'm reclaiming old pasture that was brush hogged clear of willow brush last summer. The first few cells of that land this year they did awesome eating back the new willow growth, but the last cell, not so much. They were mad at me before they went in and pretty much refused to eat it, so we moved them to the best area we have to get the gut working again. I'm very new to this and learning every day also.
Soooo…mad respect for you and your regenerative farmer cohorts…..conventional ag has had generations of land grant university research (us here it’s MSU and they do doo great work actually) and certainly the USDuh interference and the farm lobby bull crap too…but you pioneers soldier on and without a lot of good research but wisdom and intuition from others and your own brave hard work in that regard too….so I like to see vids like this…it shows you care about your operation….you do have a lot of success and this situation-it did rain a lot here 125 miles NW of you-will surely give you a lot of wisdom….good fortune to ya ….ya legend
Awesome video brother,mistakes makes us better ,we all make them ,that’s what I appreciate about yours and Josh’s channels,the good the bad and the ugly ,if you only tell the good it’s doesn’t help others avoid the bad I for one appreciate that
@drumhillerfarms6858 it would be better for the cattle to skip all the rank lignified forage, and go after the newly recovered lush green forage, then use high density with multiple moves per day to trample the carbon to the ground. Converting solar energy into a marketable product is what grazing is, finding the most efficient way to do that will lead to success.
Hey bud. Love your videos. We holistically graze over her in nz. We’ve done just what you’ve done on really wet days. It takes longer to come back but don’t beat yourself up. We now give the cattle more area when heavy rain is coming. Most importantly though apart from this we graze in the end of the blaze of growth stage when the grass is converting the most solar energy into growth. Leave it too long and solar conversion / growth slows. Graze too early and you don’t convert the optimum amount of the suns energy. You have to really monitor grass more closely to achieve this. Looks like where the cattle are going your pastures are left too long. On that paddock you said you overgrazed last time, it looks like you could graze that now before the blaze of growth flattens off. Same deal as you’re doing but looking at grass recovery and basing your rounds on that. Grass recovery and minimising over recovery is really important to convert the maximum amount of the suns energy into grass. How much the cattle eat isn’t so important as you’ve seen on your first muck up
I am with everyone else, it will come back, and may surprise you with how good it is. On another topic, where did you find the Murry Gray genetics? Heard good things about their carcass quality.
Another great video. I don't think it's the quality of the forage that's the problem as much as certain animals need more nutrition. Those South polls are awesome and do really well! Anything else not doing as well on your system should be culled. Eventually you'll have an entire herd that thrives on your system. I can't recall if you use minerals in addition to your forage. I'd try using free-choice minerals if you aren't already.
I learned this the other day with only 5 head of cows. No rain in Forcast but got 4" pop up over night. It was a ugly mess, but we where on bottom side of a hill also. In regards to your stacking up.... I get your none selective, but give them another 10 paces wide from what your normally doing to allow for a little more selective. I would do this with the sheep when I had them to hopefully allow them to get more of what they need. If I pushed em to hard their condition would show an they would graze way more then I wanted. Last thing... do you got more hair on your chin then your head 😂😂 seems that where most of mine grows also lol
Mimicking nature is the philosophy, not any particular brand of grazing. Sure, we all make adjustments and fine tune things, but nature is chaos. Enough unintended consequences will always come up, there is going to be chaos.
shew! Man....that's a mess....get some seed on that ...make lemonade...seed it, run the cows on it for a few hours to "hoof" it in....nail it with seed! You might have an opportunity here
@@drumhillerfarms6858 Seeds were also my first thought, buckwheat, turnip, radish, more grasses or clovers. Lots of options, that pugging is probably the biggest concern but it all is just another data point.
@drumhillerfarms6858 also didn't look bad at all! If anything the regrowth looked better than the next paddock. The pugged up spot may have some interesting plants grow back but it's all good just non selectively graze those plants also. My cows seem to rarely get majority green grass or really grass at all so you'll be surprised what a cow will eat that isn't the normal grasses
The reason your failing is because you have pastures instead of grassland ecosystems. You don't have enough plant diversity, not enough structural diversification and your not deeply rooted enough.
Please, in 35 days, show the mistake plot from today's video. Bet it will come back beautifully.
@@user-kv2pt4lu9y I think you’re gonna be right!
This has happened to me and its actually not as bad as it looks. Just let it rest. It actually shows the immense power of the grazing herd as a tool and demostrates how a subtle change in management can leave a dramatic impact. Youre still doing a great job. Dont sweat it, there is so much seed on that grass and you have your recovery long enough to where it will be fine.
@@petereldracher5660 thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for sharing the ups and downs. Always appreciate the content.
@@moonvalleypermaculture1281 thansk
Don’t sweat it brotha! The Lord knows we aren’t gonna be perfect and he made Mother Nature very resilient to bounce back from our learning episodes!
@@brandondunn2978 amen! To that bro
We just had a similar situation with not so good forage. I'm reclaiming old pasture that was brush hogged clear of willow brush last summer. The first few cells of that land this year they did awesome eating back the new willow growth, but the last cell, not so much. They were mad at me before they went in and pretty much refused to eat it, so we moved them to the best area we have to get the gut working again. I'm very new to this and learning every day also.
@@TimBinns68 always learning !
I had a similar situation last year, all back to normal and maybe better. Not a mistake! Give it rest it’ll be fine.
@@jameskoebke5776 definitely!
Great job! That spot will recover! Not ideal of course but it’s not a perfect world 😂 Keep calm and graze on!👍👍
@@runningtfarmsnc thanks buddy!
Soooo…mad respect for you and your regenerative farmer cohorts…..conventional ag has had generations of land grant university research (us here it’s MSU and they do doo great work actually) and certainly the USDuh interference and the farm lobby bull crap too…but you pioneers soldier on and without a lot of good research but wisdom and intuition from others and your own brave hard work in that regard too….so I like to see vids like this…it shows you care about your operation….you do have a lot of success and this situation-it did rain a lot here 125 miles NW of you-will surely give you a lot of wisdom….good fortune to ya ….ya legend
@@chrisstengren8995 thank you very much for those words
Awesome video brother,mistakes makes us better ,we all make them ,that’s what I appreciate about yours and Josh’s channels,the good the bad and the ugly ,if you only tell the good it’s doesn’t help others avoid the bad I for one appreciate that
@@freddieconner-ey2xs thanks!
Grazing more high energy plants will improve animal performance, and take care of the stacking of the manure.
@@georgeheller2281 that’s what I’m working on, trying to get through all this stuff first!! lol.
@drumhillerfarms6858 it would be better for the cattle to skip all the rank lignified forage, and go after the newly recovered lush green forage, then use high density with multiple moves per day to trample the carbon to the ground. Converting solar energy into a marketable product is what grazing is, finding the most efficient way to do that will lead to success.
@@georgeheller2281 right on
Hey bud. Love your videos. We holistically graze over her in nz. We’ve done just what you’ve done on really wet days. It takes longer to come back but don’t beat yourself up. We now give the cattle more area when heavy rain is coming. Most importantly though apart from this we graze in the end of the blaze of growth stage when the grass is converting the most solar energy into growth. Leave it too long and solar conversion / growth slows. Graze too early and you don’t convert the optimum amount of the suns energy. You have to really monitor grass more closely to achieve this. Looks like where the cattle are going your pastures are left too long. On that paddock you said you overgrazed last time, it looks like you could graze that now before the blaze of growth flattens off. Same deal as you’re doing but looking at grass recovery and basing your rounds on that. Grass recovery and minimising over recovery is really important to convert the maximum amount of the suns energy into grass. How much the cattle eat isn’t so important as you’ve seen on your first muck up
@@WildMeadowsFarm right on, thanks!
Don't stress much it will come back much more denser
@@phenyomagaga5423 thanks! Hopefully!
I am with everyone else, it will come back, and may surprise you with how good it is.
On another topic, where did you find the Murry Gray genetics? Heard good things about their carcass quality.
@@springtimeplumbing6240 they are a hard find but I been collecting them wherever I can for years. The farm I took over was raising mirrays
Thanks for showing this appreciate it. So now will ya role some old hay out on that paddock to get that ground covered up?
@@justinskeans3342 I’m gonna let it go and see what happens
Another great video. I don't think it's the quality of the forage that's the problem as much as certain animals need more nutrition. Those South polls are awesome and do really well! Anything else not doing as well on your system should be culled. Eventually you'll have an entire herd that thrives on your system. I can't recall if you use minerals in addition to your forage. I'd try using free-choice minerals if you aren't already.
@@robinsonjohn4975 I do use minerals I tried the free choice and didn’t have very good success on my farm. Long story short
I learned this the other day with only 5 head of cows. No rain in Forcast but got 4" pop up over night. It was a ugly mess, but we where on bottom side of a hill also.
In regards to your stacking up.... I get your none selective, but give them another 10 paces wide from what your normally doing to allow for a little more selective. I would do this with the sheep when I had them to hopefully allow them to get more of what they need. If I pushed em to hard their condition would show an they would graze way more then I wanted. Last thing... do you got more hair on your chin then your head 😂😂 seems that where most of mine grows also lol
@@brettpayton6286 lol thanks, right on!
I really like murray grey cattle, great walkers, great doers, can live happily on dry sticks.
@@adammac4381 lol. We love them too
Hey not sure the temperature there right now. I would made the same move especially if it was hot out the tall grass helps keep them cool
@@GREENCOLLARHOMESTEAD-xl3up it’s pretty hot
Have you reached out to the carnivore community in your area? We need to get grassfed beef from our farmers❤
@@audreysuter4315 we sell a lot of meat every year off our website
Just be sure to rest it til it is completely recovered.
@@user-kv2pt4lu9y always!!
Mimicking nature is the philosophy, not any particular brand of grazing. Sure, we all make adjustments and fine tune things, but nature is chaos. Enough unintended consequences will always come up, there is going to be chaos.
@@LtColDaddy71 that’s right
shew! Man....that's a mess....get some seed on that ...make lemonade...seed it, run the cows on it for a few hours to "hoof" it in....nail it with seed! You might have an opportunity here
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer it’s already bouncing back!
@@drumhillerfarms6858 Seeds were also my first thought, buckwheat, turnip, radish, more grasses or clovers. Lots of options, that pugging is probably the biggest concern but it all is just another data point.
Seeds are already there and those roots will hold up too.
@@petereldracher5660 🙏
In two months is the best plot on your farm. You will start thinking on some disturb like this from time to time, in your lees productive patches.
@@pabloloza3190 awesome!
Im assuming you meant grazed it down too far or too severely? Not overgrazed because you didnt stay on it to graze any regrowth.
@@masonbaylorbears true!
@drumhillerfarms6858 also didn't look bad at all! If anything the regrowth looked better than the next paddock. The pugged up spot may have some interesting plants grow back but it's all good just non selectively graze those plants also. My cows seem to rarely get majority green grass or really grass at all so you'll be surprised what a cow will eat that isn't the normal grasses
Give it 30-45 days and you will be re-grazing that same spot.
@@brentingvardsen1946 hopefully!
Nah. It'll bounce back. Dont sqeat the small stuff. Just get them off of it entirely. This is the most forgiving type of grazing ive tried.
@@bradharris2503 it’s already starting to come back a little
Unroll some hay on the open soil
You’re cattle look hungry
@@JamesColeman1 they are full
The reason your failing is because you have pastures instead of grassland ecosystems. You don't have enough plant diversity, not enough structural diversification and your not deeply rooted enough.