Fixing All Super Smash Bros Ultimate Classic Modes!

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  • Super Smash Bros Ultimate has a ton of extra modes aside from the normal VS matches such as world of light, spirit board, and so on but my personal favorite is classic mode! Classic mode gives each character their own unique route, however a lot of them have certain matches that don't make any sense. This is especially the case for the boss as most of them use master and crazy hand when Galleom, Rathalos, Dracula, Marx, Ganon, and Giga Bowser are also available. Since I speedrun classic mode 9.9 I notice a lot of these weird choices so today we are going to be fixing smash ultimate's classic mode routes! In addition while we go through every character we will also say where the dlc characters like steve or kazuya could've fit in had they been in the base smash ultimate roster.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:16 Boss Count
    3:38 Fox
    4:39 Luigi
    5:56 Ness
    6:44 Peach
    7:40 Sheik
    8:18 Dr. Mario
    9:18 Pichu
    10:42 Lucina
    11:25 Ganondorf
    12:41 Roy
    13:22 Dark Pit
    14:21 Zero Suit Samus
    15:38 Wario
    16:26 Pokemon Trainer
    18:07 Sonic
    19:50 King Dedede
    20:28 ROB
    20:59 Villager
    22:08 Little Mac
    22:55 Greninja
    23:56 Palutena
    24:24 Robin
    25:22 Shulk
    25:54 Cloud
    26:30 Richter
    27:35 Isabelle
    28:51 Incineroar
    29:18 Byleth
    30:24 Miis
    31:19 Updated Boss Count
    32:31 Outro
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  • @Odyssey_Central
    @Odyssey_Central  Před 2 lety +374

    Don’t let this video fool you all by the way, Marx is the worst boss for speedrunning and I am slightly happy he isn’t used more :D

    • @Wyatt516
      @Wyatt516 Před 2 lety +2

      ok

    • @aaphex
      @aaphex Před 2 lety +5

      why are you obese?

    • @wetown1972
      @wetown1972 Před 2 lety +8

      Did you know that Mr. Game and watch’s side b is always 6 in Homerun Contest?

    • @gamingwithsage7195
      @gamingwithsage7195 Před 2 lety

      Lol

    • @thesandkingdom
      @thesandkingdom Před 2 lety +8

      For the Isabelle changes: U cant add 7 players in a classic mode bc u could do co-op mode and then u would have to remove on

  • @thegreatjman1999
    @thegreatjman1999 Před 2 lety +569

    For Byleth a theme I'd like is "Guiding the Youngsters" a focus on them being a teacher
    Start with Ness and Lucas, then Young Link, then Inkling (in school uniform), then Pit (since he can't read), Joker (also a school uniform), and end with Robin since they're a strategist like Byleth and it's like they're trying to determine the superior scholar. And I can't think of anything else for the boss

    • @AznYunHou
      @AznYunHou Před 2 lety +37

      Beast King Ganon could represent Hegemone Husk

    • @AdamDryeAP6niniFO
      @AdamDryeAP6niniFO Před 2 lety +32

      For Byleth, I have an idea to fix his/her route & make it less like Lucina's. Sort of combining Odyssey Central's idea with what we actually got.
      Round 1: Marth - Representing the Sword Of The Creator.
      Round 2: Roy & Zero Suit Samus - Zero Suit Samus represents the whip abilities of the sword & Marth is an ally.
      Round 3: Ike, Link, Young Link, & Toon Link - The three Links represent Failnaught (a bow) & Roy is an ally.
      Round 4: Lucina, Robin, Chrom, & King Dedede - King Dedede represents Aymr (an axe even though Dedede uses a hammer) & Ike is an ally.
      Round 5: Corrin - Corrin represents Areadbhar (a spear) & Chrom is an ally.
      Round 6: Three Byleth's - This fight's pretty much the same as the official version, but Corrin is an ally.
      Final Round: All Fire Emblem Fighters Vs. Master Hand & Crazy Hand.

    • @firewolf950tfwgaming7
      @firewolf950tfwgaming7 Před 2 lety +23

      I’d personally have their route reference the multiple routes of Three Houses rather than follow their character theme of teacher or mercenary or the weapons they use just to follow the theme that the DLC have. Plus the many routes of the game was definitely the biggest selling point of three houses that should be made note of. For the 7 round I’d go-
      Round 1: Giant Simon with Ike as an ally. This references the tutorial map of the game and Ike alludes to Jeralt, the father of the player character as both are mercenaries.
      Round 2: A hoard battle of 6 dark pits before ending on a Meta Knight with the Dark Meta Knight skin. This references chapter 5 of 3 Houses where you need to fight a bunch of bandits(mostly archers) led by a characters scarred on his face. You’ll be partnered with a Dimitri skinned Byleth as the main boss is the brother of one of the blue lions and suggest you’re playing the Blue Lion route.
      Round 3: 2 Byleths with the Edelgard and Dimitri colors, a Robin, and a ganondorf with Claude skin Byleth as an ally. This references the mock battle/battle of the eagle and lion. This will be a team battle with each group trying to win over each other. This one assumes the golden deer route as well with Claude as your partner
      Round 4: A Lucina who upon defeat will lead into a giant Robin with Edelgard Byleth as an ally. This references chapter 10 where you fight the murders of an important character. Your pairing with Edelgard skin Byleth also references that you’re playing Black Eagles
      Then the final 3 rounds will reference the 3 boss maps of each respected class.
      Round 5: Beast King Ganon with Dimitri skin Byleth as an ally. This refers to the final boss the Blue Lions take on in Hegemon Edelgard who has transformed into a giant beast.
      Round 6: hoard battle of a bunch of fire emblem characters with Giant Marth as the last one with Claude skin Byleth as your ally. This references the final map for the golden deer as the Marth would allude to its final boss nemesis, a bandit turned corrupt and killed the goddess. Robin would also work but I really don’t wanna repeat final characters.
      The final round would be first against Palutena and then shift into a fight again Rathelos with Edelgard skin Byleth as an ally. This references the black eagles final boss in the form of the immaculate one who is Rhea’s alternate form and resembles Palutena if you compare.

    • @dusknoir64
      @dusknoir64 Před 2 lety +17

      I'd say the name of the route could be "Let the Lesson begin!" Since that's one of their taunts, but otherwise, yeah I think that's a great way to do the route.

    • @colorbenja6163
      @colorbenja6163 Před 2 lety +7

      @@firewolf950tfwgaming7 I really like the idea, the only change I would make is replacing Beast Ganon with giant metal Dark Pit so we don't have two bosses in the same route and also the black wings + dark arrows could represent the Hegemon Husk own wings and ranged attacks.

  • @SzandorQuinn
    @SzandorQuinn Před 2 lety +281

    i will not lie, that Puppet jumpscare at 4:50 really got me, as i was just sitting back and relaxing when he came up and i never sat up so quickly in my life.

  • @muby102
    @muby102 Před 2 lety +475

    It's always nice to hear people like you talking about how fun the offline side of smash can be. As someone who's mostly into this side of smash, it's really cool

    • @SamuelTheAdept
      @SamuelTheAdept Před 2 lety +6

      I agree completely.
      -just never do what I did and train a Hero amiibo and fight it yourself, and now I’ll make a Kazuya one when it comes out-

    • @mrbagel6715
      @mrbagel6715 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah I love the story and classic modes

    • @joystickthesentientpc7787
      @joystickthesentientpc7787 Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, same. I’m trash at online play, so it’s just rather comforting to play by myself.

    • @joystickthesentientpc7787
      @joystickthesentientpc7787 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SamuelTheAdept okay, but don’t fight that one, period.

    • @saifuusuri
      @saifuusuri Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, Smash is a weird case of an online game having more single player content than online.

  • @benedictgaming4766
    @benedictgaming4766 Před 2 lety +346

    I think Steve should fight rathilos. You know, he is fighting a dragon as in the Ender dragon

    • @dreamlanderjoel8162
      @dreamlanderjoel8162 Před 2 lety +84

      Agreed, although instead of the usual grassy and rocky field, Steve’s fight against Rathalos could take place on Marx’s stage, referencing the Ender Dragon’s home, the End.

    • @Wyrmington
      @Wyrmington Před 2 lety +29

      And defeat static tall characters before rathalos referencing the end pillars

    • @ley_windsor
      @ley_windsor Před 2 lety +1

      Yes

    • @ley_windsor
      @ley_windsor Před 2 lety +1

      Yes

    • @chamitoempire1672
      @chamitoempire1672 Před 2 lety +4

      Rathalos*

  • @dylaniguess7856
    @dylaniguess7856 Před 2 lety +242

    I was not ready for that intro to Luigi’s section

  • @thegothcatgirl
    @thegothcatgirl Před 2 lety +54

    Now, Sora also uses the Hands as bosses, but I have a simple fix: just make the boss be a basic Smash battle against Sephiroth, which would make perfect sense as Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 both have secret boss fights against the One-Winged Angel himself. In addition, since said boss fights are infamous for being insanely difficult, maybe Sephiroth could be giant and/or metal to reflect the difficulty of his fights.

    • @leohernandez8751
      @leohernandez8751 Před 8 měsíci +12

      Or maybe they could have it so the Master Hand/Crazy Hand fight could be if you reach them as Sora with an intensity less than 7.0. Any higher then that and THEN the boss fight would be the Sephiroth fight you suggested referencing his SECRET boss fights in the first two Kingdom Hearts games and their infamous legacy for their brutal difficulty.

  • @weegee7682
    @weegee7682 Před 2 lety +176

    22:09 damn that caught me off guard almost spit out my cereal

  • @bobert221
    @bobert221 Před 2 lety +194

    I like how at 15:47 the baby Ike skin actually gets gimped in 3 seconds by your Wario but right after Chad Ike is the one comboing you, asserting his superiority

    • @bobert221
      @bobert221 Před 2 lety +16

      Oh by the way, for ROB's route, since you included DLC for other characters, maybe add in Steve and Alex at some point, since they're completely emotionless outside of the occasional blink

    • @gamerits
      @gamerits Před rokem +1

      ​@@bobert221 *cinematic trailers and mini videos would like to talk with you*

    • @toymariofficial217
      @toymariofficial217 Před rokem +1

      @@gamerits yeah. just in THOSE do they show emotion. in game. they show less emotion than a fucking statue.

    • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259
      @anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@bobert221 How about the zombie?

    • @bobert221
      @bobert221 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 well I suppose they're all emotionless but Zombie especially. Just Zombie would feel weird though, so just having a Minecraft round with all 4 alts seems like the best option

  • @HCN-002
    @HCN-002 Před 2 lety +115

    I can’t wait for Master Hand’s Classic Mode. It would go Crazy Hand, Crazy Hand spawning Master Hand upon death, Master Hand, Master Hand summoning Crazy Hand upon death, and Galeem and Dharkon. Unoriginal, but still more original than a majority of the actual Classic Mode routes.

    • @masterofdoots5965
      @masterofdoots5965 Před 2 lety +3

      GENIUUUUUSSSS!!!

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover Před rokem +2

      I was told that Master Hand could be unlocked as a fighter in Brawl, but sadly I never had a chance to figure out how

  • @superyoshiverde7911
    @superyoshiverde7911 Před 2 lety +134

    22:09 Um yes, my two favorite characters, Mega Fit Trainer and Wii Man

  • @Solibrae
    @Solibrae Před 2 lety +59

    I think the reason why no Classic Mode Routes will ever be changed is so that people's old high scores don't suddenly become irrelevant, deleted or no longer obtainable.
    I do like most of these ideas. The overuse of Master Hand and/or Crazy Hand bothers me too.

    • @goldshell9992
      @goldshell9992 Před 2 lety +1

      I sure they probably work around it

    • @hurricanemk8dx
      @hurricanemk8dx Před rokem +4

      Every time I hear that the hands are overused I relish in the fact that I am a Yoshi main (i.e. I get A DRAGON)

    • @woomy7.7
      @woomy7.7 Před rokem +1

      We split it, old and new

    • @SavageJarJar
      @SavageJarJar Před rokem +1

      @@hurricanemk8dx imagine not being a Sephiroth main and fighting literally everything

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton Před 2 lety +43

    17:10 Master Hand coming before the Champion makes a lot of sense since most Pokémon games have you save the world before going to the Pokémon League. I wonder if Marx or Rathalos would fit better as world-threatening Pokémon, though.

    • @supersmashseandx1991
      @supersmashseandx1991 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Rathalos works better since he's also from a monster fighting game. Also, then during the final fight you could get his assist trophy like you caught him

    • @zacharytaylor2676
      @zacharytaylor2676 Před 10 měsíci

      Wasn't there a Raquaza fight? maybe I mistake it from Brawl, where I definitely remember that fight. They could have brought Rayquaza for that reason.

    • @supersmashseandx1991
      @supersmashseandx1991 Před 10 měsíci

      @@zacharytaylor2676 sadly Rayquaza is only in brawl

  • @glennhadiwitanto6264
    @glennhadiwitanto6264 Před 2 lety +75

    For Little Mac, personally i would give him a classic mode that references the other boxers in the punch out series like Glass Joe, Piston Hondo, King Hippo, Aran Ryan, Super Macho Man, and Mr. Sandman.

    • @PROPLAYEN
      @PROPLAYEN Před 2 lety +12

      for aran ryan, he pulls out a gun

    • @pebbletheYT
      @pebbletheYT Před rokem +1

      @@PROPLAYEN Thats not a bad idea tbh
      Just give Aran a lazer Gun

    • @rileyomadadhain2173
      @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem +3

      Or have him fight characters who use boxing gloves in their attacks (also a reference to Ken/Incineroar's reveal trailer)

    • @John-fh8vy
      @John-fh8vy Před 10 měsíci

      Glass Joe is Larry, Piston Hondo is Pikachu with the headband, King Hippo is white King K Rool, Aran Ryan is Fox, Super Macho Man is gold Captain Falcon, and Mr. Sandman is Ganondorf

  • @chaisonpeyton
    @chaisonpeyton Před 2 lety +68

    Wait no.
    Falco's classic mode should be up against fighters who can fly!
    The dark theme is used like 3 to 4 times already.

    • @sirekumasutra7022
      @sirekumasutra7022 Před 2 lety +2

      That or sidekicks/2nd bananas

    • @YellowFuryandTurquoiseTyrant
      @YellowFuryandTurquoiseTyrant Před rokem +1

      The sidekick route would go in my mind, Luigi and Daisy, Diddy Kong, Zelda or Shiek, a hoarde battle against 6 Yoshis (the ones that are not green) Meta Knight, Bowser Jr., and then for the finale, the same crazy hand fight as he’s a sidekick to master hand.

    • @Flare8295
      @Flare8295 Před rokem

      That could work too

    • @perkilatorxiii5179
      @perkilatorxiii5179 Před měsícem +1

      Characters with more than two jumps would work well, since jump height is one of Falco’s strongest points

  • @IfsoFactso
    @IfsoFactso Před 2 lety +24

    The reason little Mac is in ZSS’s fight is because in Japanese, the name is “down to the wire” and he is in his wire frame outfit

  • @nicc8451
    @nicc8451 Před 2 lety +190

    Everyone for some reason thinks Ganondorf wanted to overthrow Master Hand in Subspace. HE DIDN'T. He was loyal, he just wanted to make sure Bowser wouldn't betray him so he killed him, but he was loyal to Master Hand and even tried protecting him.

    • @mckiem0use
      @mckiem0use Před 2 lety +18

      Huh, never expected Ganondorf to be loyal to someone.

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 Před 2 lety +24

      well, there is that subtle smirk he does when taking orders from master hand

    • @QuoteIzkewl
      @QuoteIzkewl Před 2 lety +26

      Yeah, the whole time I was just thinking "Didn't he literally die trying to save Master Hand from Tabuu"

    • @victora.5821
      @victora.5821 Před rokem +23

      Late response, but Ganondorf wanting to overthrow Master Hand actually *is* canon; there’s a post on the Brawl website that explains some of the Subspace lore.

    • @Chris-gx1ei
      @Chris-gx1ei Před 11 měsíci +9

      That's actually totally not Ganondorf-Like.
      He wouldnt bow down to anyone and swearing his loyality to anyone, as the pure evil incarnate he would instead take everything under control in order for Darkness to prosper, heck he doesnt even care if he is going to die, as long as his goal gets fulfilled he'll be satisfied

  • @clutchathan1476
    @clutchathan1476 Před 2 lety +174

    I haven’t watched the video yet but I bet he is going to flex his Classic mode world records lol

  • @valeriemcardle9379
    @valeriemcardle9379 Před 2 lety +38

    The only change I’d make is to Sepiroth as the final boss for cloud

  • @gloopiu
    @gloopiu Před 2 lety +37

    29:20
    For Byleth’s Section you can have them fight against characters that use multiple weapons:
    Round 1 would be Link
    Round 2 would be Inkling
    Round 3 would be Mega Man
    Round 4 would be Pit
    Round 5 would be Steve
    Round 6 would be Bayonetta
    And maybe replace the hands with Ganon but that’s kinda of a stretch

  • @TheWaverunners
    @TheWaverunners Před 2 lety +33

    They totally should have added Corrin or Inkling next to Squirtle to represent the Water Type in Greninja's route.

    • @zagondragon9912
      @zagondragon9912 Před rokem +4

      I wouldn't say inkling as they die to water but they work well as a poison type so they could go with ivysaur because of the dual typing

    • @supersmashseandx1991
      @supersmashseandx1991 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@zagondragon9912or olimar to go with grass

  • @maxlotwomikey1.097
    @maxlotwomikey1.097 Před 2 lety +83

    It would of been cool if Sonic, the Knuckles Mii, and the Tails Mii were in doctor Mario's route since the trios colors matches the viruses' colors and it can work as a reference to the rivalry Mario and Sonic had in the 90's. Replace Tails Mii with fox and knuckles mii with incineroar if the player doesn't have either, or costume.

    • @bonedude1286
      @bonedude1286 Před 2 lety

      What if you don't have the costumes? It's a good idea, but seems to specific for it to actually work.

    • @maxlotwomikey1.097
      @maxlotwomikey1.097 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bonedude1286 Fox because they are foxes and incineroar because like knuckles, a lot of incineroar's moves are more physical and knuckles has many moves throughout the series where they have flames coming out of them.

    • @bonedude1286
      @bonedude1286 Před 2 lety

      @@maxlotwomikey1.097 You should probably specify that in the comment.

    • @maxlotwomikey1.097
      @maxlotwomikey1.097 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bonedude1286 good point.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety +1

      @@maxlotwomikey1.097 I have a better idea for the Sonic Route. Fox is fine except use Emerald hill theme.
      I agree with using Big and Froggy.
      Next is Caption Falcon except use the song Escape from the City, this is a reference to the GUN truck from SA2.
      Next is metal Sonic except use a space stage and the song is Live and Learn, this is a reference to Metal Sonic been playable in SA2's multiplayer mode.
      Next is Ridley to reference the demons from 06.
      Next is Shiek except use Skyloft with Angel island theme, this is a reference to Shade the Echidna from Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood.
      Finally Ike and Zelda, this a reference to Merlina from Sonic and the Black Knight.

  • @fortnite8846
    @fortnite8846 Před 2 lety +60

    I can’t believe you did that 4:48
    Odyssey canceled

  • @picopog5914
    @picopog5914 Před 2 lety +25

    Odyssey: the mask covers their identities
    Allister rare league card: are you sure about that

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Roy’s final boss being the hands makes perfect sense.
    After all, Master Hand and Crazy Hand are the final boss of the first game Roy was in.

  • @Hello_Cheesecake
    @Hello_Cheesecake Před 2 lety +26

    22:09
    Wii man is now my favorite smash character and you can't change my mind.

  • @stox1688
    @stox1688 Před 2 lety +16

    8:35 I know that it’s not technically a boss but one that I’ve thought of for Dr. Mario’s boss is a yellow, red, and blue Bowsers fight

  • @IanPotato
    @IanPotato Před 2 lety +37

    We really just need more bosses, it would add a lot more variety.

    • @RondoOfBloodX
      @RondoOfBloodX Před 2 lety +7

      Rayquaza SHOULD have returned as a boss as should’ve Duon. In addition to them we should’ve gotten Dr Eggman, Metal Face, Andross, Phantoon, Medusa, and Black Shadow.

    • @mrbagel6715
      @mrbagel6715 Před 2 lety +2

      @@RondoOfBloodX porky couldve worked

    • @Salem-1610
      @Salem-1610 Před rokem

      @@RondoOfBloodX Metal Gear REX or RAY would've worked too.

    • @Somerandomguy-vf8sp
      @Somerandomguy-vf8sp Před rokem

      @@RondoOfBloodX Duon would have worked well in Banjo's classic mode.

    • @leohernandez8751
      @leohernandez8751 Před 8 měsíci

      Or we could’ve had the giant baby Bowser for Yoshi, The Reaper for Joker, The Enderdragon for Steve, Captain Falcon could have Black Shadow etc.

  • @VariableZero
    @VariableZero Před 2 lety +9

    13:57 Oh that’s perfect. See, Sephiroth was born a living weapon, so he makes more sense than Cloud.

    • @leohernandez8751
      @leohernandez8751 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah Cloud technically does still fit considering later on he was experimented on to be a great SOLDIER fighter, but yeah Sephiroth honestly fits MUCH better due to him literally being created from JENOVA (aka alien as far as I know) DNA

  • @8BitGabe
    @8BitGabe Před 2 lety +24

    Imagine if they fleshed out Classic mode way more and binned the other modes except for WOL and normal Smash.

  • @emanueltheodorus1056
    @emanueltheodorus1056 Před 2 lety +24

    Idea for Peach: to replace her Bowser fight so she can fought him and Giga Bowser in the finale, she should have got Mario to replace him. Not only this provides a nice irony as her hero turns out to be a former kidnapper, it would also reference Donkey Kong Jr. where Mario is the main antagonist and kidnapped Donkey Kong.

  • @CrazyWeridoRH
    @CrazyWeridoRH Před 2 lety +15

    No you can’t cut out Bayonetta from Luigi’s route. She represents his fear of dominant women. The 4Chan pages he lurks in had warned him of what 3rd wave feminism would lead to.

    • @Zekken_The_Lodestar
      @Zekken_The_Lodestar Před 2 lety

      Wait... It was?

    • @lord_berkut2426
      @lord_berkut2426 Před 2 lety

      @@Zekken_The_Lodestar No, she summons literal demons n shit

    • @Zekken_The_Lodestar
      @Zekken_The_Lodestar Před 2 lety

      @@lord_berkut2426 I was being sarcastic to the comment above.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Zekken_The_Lodestar Because as everyone on the internet knows, sarcasm works well in text.
      ...wait it doesn't. It can be read as serious or sarcasm depending on the person.
      Use your words.

  • @masterofdoots5965
    @masterofdoots5965 Před rokem +4

    30:35 "Mii Brawler's would be characters with strong punches." Proceeds to not include Little Mac

    • @dark_bones_ultimate
      @dark_bones_ultimate Před rokem +1

      If I were replacing that route, I’d probably remove Wario as his punches aren’t the strongest

  • @pactete
    @pactete Před 2 lety +10

    Giant inceneraor to represent that one red character that I don't care to look up about
    Me: oh, Zavok? Yeah, he's a lost cause. No one cares about him

  • @AshenDust_
    @AshenDust_ Před 2 lety +23

    I think Byleth’s classic mode should be a bunch of emotionless, blank slate characters, Byleth is one, but actually has a lore reason. I would make it Hero, Mr. Game and Watch, Rob, Pokemon Trainer, Villager, and Robin + Corrin. The boss would be Master Hand. If you wanted to keep the Weapons theme you came up with, I would make the final fight Little Mac, Byleth punches with their jab, using the Brawling weapons class from 3 Houses, and the boss could be Ganon, who uses swords.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 2 lety +3

      Robin has an actual character tho.

    • @CuttlefishOnEstrogen
      @CuttlefishOnEstrogen Před 2 lety

      Isn't that just R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer's routes? R.O.B.'s route's characters don't show emotion due to not having emotable faces, and wii fit's are supposed to be emotionless.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@CuttlefishOnEstrogen Yes your right.

  • @dextra_24703
    @dextra_24703 Před 2 lety +63

    Shouldn't Roy's fight with shulk have Pyra & Mythra they are literally swords.

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 Před 2 lety +4

      Isn't that green snake thing a boss? They could've used that for some of the Pokemon. And for the fighter with the "vehicle" theme, Ridley's final fight on Samus' ship would have been epic.

    • @dreamlanderjoel8162
      @dreamlanderjoel8162 Před 2 lety +8

      @@amazingfireboy1848 Rayquaza (the green snake thing) was a boss in Super Smash Bros Brawl, but it is unfortunately not a boss in Smash Ultimate, instead it only appears as a stage hazard on Kalos Pokemon League.

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dreamlanderjoel8162 oh, thanks

    • @luigidogxd
      @luigidogxd Před 2 lety +2

      pyra and mythra are dlc tho

    • @dextra_24703
      @dextra_24703 Před 2 lety +4

      @@luigidogxd this was an idea for this video and he said that he was design them with the characters we have now.

  • @dragonex4723
    @dragonex4723 Před 2 lety +12

    When he talks about Marx used 3 times rosalina turns into the funny moon guy

    • @alabamii
      @alabamii Před 2 lety

      *cringe

    • @walkerphillips2818
      @walkerphillips2818 Před 3 měsíci

      I’m sorry, but who’s Cringe? I remember that Rosalina exists, but I can’t remember Sakuri adding a character named Cringe.

  • @punmaster227
    @punmaster227 Před 2 lety +3

    For that Luigi segment
    I’ve seen that jumpscare millions of times and it still got me

  • @dieg7749
    @dieg7749 Před 2 lety +9

    I would change the name of king dedede’s classic route to “fight for the crown” to reference his guest star tag line from star allies

  • @motherfuckingenterprises7436

    Warning: Luigi's section has a jumpscare.

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The idea for Pokémon trainer having the boss on stage 5 also fits most Pokémon games. Prior to Black and White, you’d always defeat the main story’s final enemy before proceeding to the Pokémon league.

  • @CursedMoistMan690
    @CursedMoistMan690 Před 2 lety +9

    Imagine if the Mii fighters had there own classic mode, where you can make your own fights and wich boss you will fight

  • @ohhi687itsme8
    @ohhi687itsme8 Před 9 měsíci +3

    "Lucina's classic route is titled 'A path of heroes' where she fights all 1 trillion fire emblem characters"
    I almost spit out my water
    Edit: "Mega fit trainer and wii man"

  • @gypsysprite4824
    @gypsysprite4824 Před 2 lety +5

    17:19 while in theory this would make sense, do keep in mind that in all the Kanto games, mewtwo is completly unavailable until after you become the champion. dunno why hand is here though

  • @cammoore___
    @cammoore___ Před 2 lety +12

    You're right, Sephiroth would be better fit. Cloud still works, but yes, Sephiroth would work better.

  • @mr.markstar
    @mr.markstar Před 2 lety +9

    I think that the Mii’s routes should’ve been customizable. You could change the fights to be against whoever you choose and even change the rules of it as well.
    And, maybe you could even change the boss too.
    That’d be cool.

    • @rubyrogers8879
      @rubyrogers8879 Před měsícem

      Agreed and allow us to share routes online (maybe stage builder being allowed and letting us make race to the finish layouts)

  • @alto4970
    @alto4970 Před 2 lety +5

    When I did peach, I was so confused when the boss wasn’t giga bowser

  • @DHVF28
    @DHVF28 Před 2 lety +10

    For Byleth, I’d say they could do fights based on the 4 final boss fights of Three Houses
    MAJOR 3H SPOLIERS:
    Could have a fight against giant Ridley with lava everywhere to represent the fire in the Fhirdiad fight against Rhea in Crimson Flower. Could also have a Byleth ally with the Edelgard alt. For Silver Snow it’d be the same thing except no fire and no Edelgard ally.
    For Azure Moon, it could be a giant Edelgard alt against you and an ally with the Dimitri alt.
    Verdant Wind would be the hardest one to pull off, best thing that I could think of is fighting another Byleth with a Claude alt ally, due to Byleth and Nemesis having the same sword.

    • @The-mw3hc
      @The-mw3hc Před 2 lety

      I had the same idea but I would change some things. The cf rhea should be a white charizard or against palutena while the ss rhea should be against Ridley since she got the insane dragon disease in that route
      For the azure moon boss it would make sense to change the eldegard byleth to kazuya since his demon form could be a reference to hegemon eldegard
      For the vw fight it should be byleth against the ten elites and nemesis with nemesis being ganondorf or byleth

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@The-mw3hc Sakurai refuses to use DLC characters in Classic mode other than the DLC character you play as.

  • @aleescudo4413
    @aleescudo4413 Před rokem +3

    22:09
    MegaFit trainer and wii man 💀

  • @metalapplesus
    @metalapplesus Před 2 lety +6

    For the miis, I'd feel like if they did give them a classic mode, they'd be doing something BIG tailored for them, probably something Miitopia related, like a new classic mode boss, or a new mii fighter class.

  • @toxicastigator
    @toxicastigator Před 2 lety +8

    Fox’s classic mode fight with the hands could be an unintentional reference to Andross, seeing how he’s a space fairing, floating arms and head boss.
    For the inclusion of the wire frame Little Macs, I believe it is a reference to a training sequence from Other M (however any removal of references to that piece of utter garbage is more than welcome).

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Note: Zero Suit Samus’s mode in Japanese is “Master the Wire”. The idea being that for most of the characters, the “wire” in question is a tether grab. But for Little Mac, they went for the wire frame costume as a pun.

  • @dradel2050
    @dradel2050 Před 2 lety +6

    What they say: Fixing classic mode
    What I hear: Death to master and crazy hand

  • @FlamesOfTheRuined
    @FlamesOfTheRuined Před 2 lety +4

    For Samus’s ideal new route, instead of the free-for-all with Ivysaur, Min Min, Joker, and Byleth, you can add Ivysaur with Isabelle. It gives Isabelle a companion, but also Ivysaur is a grass type…with leaves… And Isabelle was in… New Leaf?

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic Před 2 lety +3

    I think the reason Fox fights a hand is intended as a reference to Andross, who traditionally appears as a giant disembodied head and pair of hands. Why he'd default to only _one_ hand in that case is a mystery. Making the final battle take place on an omega version of a Star Fox stage with occasional appearances of the Assist Trophy version of Andross aiding Master Hand would be a lot more fitting.

  • @the_beans_man1524
    @the_beans_man1524 Před rokem +1

    This is the first time in a long time a FNAF jumpscare has gotten me. I almost threw my phone. I'm sitting on my toilet on a towel after a shower. The window is open and it's pitch black outside. I had my volume up quite a bit because you were talking quietly. And then you play a really loud, unexpected jumpscare after I turn it up even higher because of the pause.
    In other words, you got me. Really good.

  • @clowud2496
    @clowud2496 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey man, I just wanted to say... I just found your channel and now I’m contemplating why you don’t have like at least a million subscribers? Like, this video was so much fun to watch! It was very interesting how you broke down the routes and explained all these different things in the routes and how there’s a few jokes thrown in, I just think this video is amazing. New subscriber.

  • @tristarnova3454
    @tristarnova3454 Před 2 lety +5

    I would call macs new route, disadvantaged victory, since he is the one usually at the disadvantage against his opponents in his game.

  • @AdrianCosman
    @AdrianCosman Před 2 lety +4

    Me the whole time watching this video, who doesn’t play classic mode:
    *I like your funny words, magic man*

  • @lucanubis4119
    @lucanubis4119 Před 2 lety +6

    8:14 haha I've been laughing at this for so long

    • @BetterNicholas
      @BetterNicholas Před 2 lety +1

      Why Are You Laughing Kid

    • @chefjoe6588
      @chefjoe6588 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BetterNicholas dream

    • @Shy_Man111
      @Shy_Man111 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BetterNicholas why are u judging him
      KID

    • @BetterNicholas
      @BetterNicholas Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shy_Man111 You Do Realize The Original Comment Was Quoting Mask Again So I Commented Quoting More Of Mask A Joke

  • @dustymcwari4468
    @dustymcwari4468 Před 2 lety +4

    I think the Wario fight in Dr. Mario’s route taking place in Luigi’s Mansion is a reference to his manor from Mario & Wario, that also made appearance in Dr. Mario World, and Wario was very present in Dr. Mario 64

  • @themanwithaplan5425
    @themanwithaplan5425 Před 2 lety +8

    Good vid, the only to three I would change is Lucina, Shulk, and Cloud Strife. I feel like Lucina should have a new theme reveling time travel since it's a big part of her story in FE (she want back in time to save her time from the bad guy). I can't think of a full root, but I do feel like Young Link and Sonic could be part of it. Next is Shulk, who I kind of wish they did not use the Smash original Monado Arts (Jump and Smash), I am feeling like Incineroar for Monado Cyclone and King K Rule for Monado Armour. Lastly, I want Cloud's rout to end with a fight with Sephiroth on northern cave! I know it dons not fit with theme, but come on (you can see the party's ship in the background I guess).

    • @unknownusername0000
      @unknownusername0000 Před 2 lety

      i could actually make this maybe (i cant mod it would just be a sketch)

  • @spiritedchung5926
    @spiritedchung5926 Před 2 lety +2

    Well, Byleth original classic route does work. Its not just base on all fe rep join smash in order. But it was also base on the order of each of their game release. Marth is Shadow Dragon, Roy is Binding Blade, Both Ike variant from POR and RD, the Awakening rep from.... Awakening, both Corrin (white male and dark female skin) from Fate Birthrights and Conquest, and finally 3 Byleths with three houses leader skin from Three Houses. And Master and Crazy hands with all fe rep (not included echo) as your allies for fun.

  • @charlietin5262
    @charlietin5262 Před 2 lety +6

    I think the Mii's route should be something with custom avatars, like Inkling, Villager and Steve

  • @dylanbosley4139
    @dylanbosley4139 Před 2 lety +12

    Nintendo missed an opportunity in ROB's "unreadable expressions" to include some form of the killiger meme

  • @DragonKingZero
    @DragonKingZero Před 2 lety +6

    IMO, Lucina's boss should be Rathalos assisted by Robin.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 2 lety

      Grima was beaten in Smash4 missionmode and now he comes back even stronger? Nice.

  • @TheMack625
    @TheMack625 Před 2 lety +2

    After Melee, I find Super Smash Bros. Ultimate to have my second favorite iteration of Classic Mode. I play it regularly whenever I run through this game.
    I really don't dislike fighting Master Hand with the current number of characters, but I see that like Aaronitmar, you took your time to craft some amusing ideas. Respect.
    This is a nice video, Odyssey.

  • @diegoleonelreyes
    @diegoleonelreyes Před 2 lety +10

    I think rob’s route should be referencing 80s toys and 80s games

    • @larrychilders6599
      @larrychilders6599 Před 2 lety +1

      So Duck Hunt, Game and watch, Mega Man, and Hero

    • @Shy_Man111
      @Shy_Man111 Před 2 lety +2

      Someone hire this man

    • @diegoleonelreyes
      @diegoleonelreyes Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shy_Man111 thanks

    • @diegoleonelreyes
      @diegoleonelreyes Před 2 lety +1

      @@larrychilders6599 game & watch’s classic mode is good so definitely not have to be changed

    • @diegoleonelreyes
      @diegoleonelreyes Před 2 lety +1

      @@larrychilders6599 I agree with you with duck hunt and mega man and hero since they are retro

  • @Yonnitheduck
    @Yonnitheduck Před 2 lety +4

    THAT'S WHAT THE MASK IS
    THAT'S WHAT THE POINT OF THE MASK IS

    • @kornelion6014
      @kornelion6014 Před 2 lety +2

      THA TS WHA TTHE MA SKIS
      TH ATS WH ATTHE POIN TOF TH EMASK IS

  • @superyoshiverde7911
    @superyoshiverde7911 Před 2 lety +10

    Sometimes I wish Eggman was a Boss (I mean, I wish he was a Character, but a Boss would also make alot of sense)

    • @constructorthegamer5346
      @constructorthegamer5346 Před 2 lety +1

      And he would be the final boss for mega- I mean, for *W I I M A N*’s classic mode route
      Edit: the fight could be: dr Mario who spawns eggman

  • @pkcryo
    @pkcryo Před 2 lety +3

    I think it would be PERFECT for Rathalos to be Byleth’s boss. The reason being is that in 3 houses you have to fight different beasts labeled monsters and there are a lot of dragon like monsters. Plus you use your whole party to fight them so the teamates aspect works perfectly.

  • @exaltedfalcheon1793
    @exaltedfalcheon1793 Před 2 lety +5

    All Fire Emblem characters should fight Rathalos

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17

    I think a video where you make a new boss for each Smash franchise without one would be fun
    Eg: Raphael Ravel for Yoshi, Andross for Starfox, etc

  • @cursedkaito
    @cursedkaito Před 2 lety +8

    I mean add more cutscens and boom there is something to look forward to, like for brawl the story mode was a bit short but it was sick, and also it drags on for way WAY too long

    • @kira_the_sniper6376
      @kira_the_sniper6376 Před 2 lety

      I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
      From how I'm reading it, you're essentially saying that Subspace was too short and dragged on for way too long. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @monkeyjosh339
      @monkeyjosh339 Před 2 lety

      @@kira_the_sniper6376 I think they mean wol drags on

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 Před 2 lety

      @@monkeyjosh339 could have had fewer required fights, and some platforming segments and cutscenes. considering the "times completed" counter, it seems to be made with replayability in mind, but the combination of length and monotony ruins that

  • @elliotanderson324
    @elliotanderson324 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video as always! I really think a lot of these changes are obvious and should be changed, yet there are some which I would’ve never thought of that fit perfectly, you clearly put a bunch of effort into this
    And also as the resident FF expert I agree with the Sephiroth change, as *spoiler alert* Cloud is made to believe he was created, but he really wasn’t, and Sephiroth was pretty much genetically modified in the womb to become overpowered, so it fits slightly better.

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton Před 2 lety +4

    I’d add Lucina to Shiek’s route instead of the Miis. She literally uses a masquerade mask in her home game and down taunt.

  • @rep9303
    @rep9303 Před 2 lety +5

    Damn you and Aaronitmar had the same idea lol

  • @IDrewUp
    @IDrewUp Před 2 lety +5

    I was literally just watching an old video of yours!

  • @jonolivier9126
    @jonolivier9126 Před 2 lety +2

    For Pokémon Trainer it makes far more sense to just leave Mewtwo as the end. In every game he's in you can't even encounter him before beating the league, it roadblocks you into absolutely needing to beat the champion at least once in order to find him. I know that the point of Pokémon is to test yourself against the world and become the best trainer, but Mewtwo was the original ultimate test, they genuinely don't even let you see it until after the league, so putting him before the fight that is supposed to represent the champion battle doesn't make sense in terms of the Pokémon series.

  • @MantaKizaemonFTW
    @MantaKizaemonFTW Před 2 lety +2

    15:01 as a Luigi main, I concur lol

  • @connorburris4846
    @connorburris4846 Před 2 lety +3

    A quick Idea, You can change the Classic Mode you play through to other runs you've cleared, after you clear the run once.

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 Před 2 lety +3

    For Ganon, you could make the final battle against Joker but he always has Arsene

  • @supermaximglitchy1
    @supermaximglitchy1 Před 28 dny +1

    For greninja’s final boss he should be fighting against only incineroar while Dracula is sitting on his throne watching the fight and sipping his glass of blood
    His fight intro literally would fit that

  • @syrusgrove8682
    @syrusgrove8682 Před rokem +2

    Something I think would be cool is if bosses had slightly different AI depending on the character so Giga Bowser for Mario would be normal Giga Bowser while Giga Bowser for Captain Falcon could maybe have his AI prefer stuff that's close range like his punch and his shell spin. Also I think a battle of 2 Enderman with Rathalos as the boss would fit really well for Steve.

  • @lxxdccvii3740
    @lxxdccvii3740 Před 2 lety +6

    So Terry does not appear in classic mode except with himself

  • @Wyatt516
    @Wyatt516 Před 2 lety +5

    hello how are you
    i am above the water
    i am fine

  • @GB6__YT
    @GB6__YT Před 2 lety

    This is really great content, subscribed!

  • @PincessTrunks
    @PincessTrunks Před rokem +1

    I would personally change Mewtwo’s classic mode a bit.
    1. Replace Ness with a second Lucas to represent Claus.
    2. In round 3, Sephiroth also joins as an ally since this is supposed to reference Cloud being brainwashed by Sephiroth.
    3. In round 4, I would make it so only Alucard assist trophy can spawn to sort of give Richter a teammate since this is a reference to Symphony of the Night.
    4. I would swap out Pit and Palutena for Link and Zelda. And then in round 6, Mewtwo is allied with both Ganondorf and Zelda. This is a reference to Zelda being possessed by Ganondorf in Twilight Princess.

  • @TheDarkThief692
    @TheDarkThief692 Před 2 lety +3

    For Byleth classic mod the final boss should have been Rhea there is a spirit fight for her they could copy this fight in the classic mode

    • @TheOnlyTherazan
      @TheOnlyTherazan Před 2 lety +1

      Palutena would be a great fighter for this, they look so similar, I have a friend that keep confusing them! XD

    • @Zekken_The_Lodestar
      @Zekken_The_Lodestar Před 2 lety

      @@TheOnlyTherazan they'd even more confused! Lol

  • @fanboi105
    @fanboi105 Před rokem +3

    ZSS SHOULD FIGHT GIGA BOWSER OR RATHALOS, THEY HAVE CLAWS

  • @Isabeethetransprincess
    @Isabeethetransprincess Před 2 lety +1

    Peach route could have a dfferent round 6 with Ridley. Yes, he isn't really that much of a kipnapper, but one of the most important events in the Metroid series (heck, even referenced in Melee's intro) is the kidnapping of the baby metroid in Super.

  • @cybergooninja004
    @cybergooninja004 Před rokem +2

    Really wish they came out with a "Boss DLC"
    Instead of new fighters they grabbed all the series people wanted to see and made then bosses or some from already in series
    Some I'm imagining are:
    1. Dry bones but specifically his Mario party DS appearance
    2. Snatcher from a hat in time
    3. Neo cortex from crash Bandicoot
    4. Eggman from Sonic (possibly specifically the death egg robot)
    5. Either a legendary, mega evolved, or gigantamax Pokemon
    6. Either a bunch of rabbits from the rabbits series of games OR one of the bosses from Mario + Rabbits
    7. DJ Octavio from Splatoon
    There's probably more but I'm being dumb and can't remember them

  • @AlonzoTompkins
    @AlonzoTompkins Před 2 lety +3

    The best Hands fights are the ones that aren’t on Final Destination.

  • @umcorinthianoguitarrista
    @umcorinthianoguitarrista Před 2 lety +4

    4:50: WHYYYY

  • @christianthompson2768
    @christianthompson2768 Před 2 lety

    Fantastically detailed video!!

  • @KaijiKey1
    @KaijiKey1 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m just commenting on all your videos at 1:14 a.m. for some random reason. Keep up the good work; you’re a great inspiration for me; I’m hoping to upload some videos similar to the ones that you make such as 100 Bizarre Facts about the Mario Universe, Remaking the MM Example Levels from the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia, and Top 10 Characters that I want in Smash 6(.9). You can steal any of these if you want; it would make my day to know that I inspired you for a change. Thanks for the amazing content!!

  • @amphe5
    @amphe5 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Mega fit man ahh my faivorite fighter

  • @meow13678
    @meow13678 Před 2 lety +3

    Bogos binted 👽

  • @Linksond
    @Linksond Před 2 lety +2

    I’m surprised that for Masquerade (Sheik's route) you acknowledged Joker but made no mention of Min Min, the masks in ARMS are a pretty huge deal after all

  • @sonicriccardi7575
    @sonicriccardi7575 Před 7 měsíci +1

    One small change about the Sonic classic mode, I think having metal sonic be the final fight before the gallium boss would be a cool reference to Sonic 2’s Death egg zone, where you fight metal sonic & the death egg robot back to back.