Daniel Dennett | From Bacteria to Bach and Back | Talks at Google

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  • How did we come to have minds?
    For centuries, this question has intrigued psychologists, physicists, poets, and philosophers, who have wondered how the human mind developed its unrivaled ability to create, imagine, and explain. Disciples of Darwin have long aspired to explain how consciousness, language, and culture could have appeared through natural selection, blazing promising trails that tend, however, to end in confusion and controversy. Even though our understanding of the inner workings of proteins, neurons, and DNA is deeper than ever before, the matter of how our minds came to be has largely remained a mystery.
    That is now changing, says Daniel C. Dennett. In From Bacteria to Bach and Back, his most comprehensive exploration of evolutionary thinking yet, he builds on ideas from computer science and biology to show how a comprehending mind could in fact have arisen from a mindless process of natural selection. Part philosophical whodunit, part bold scientific conjecture, this landmark work enlarges themes that have sustained Dennett’s legendary career at the forefront of philosophical thought.
    More about the book: goo.gl/lHNgiP

Komentáře • 541

  • @iainsimpson6972
    @iainsimpson6972 Před 19 dny +3

    It's great that we can still listen to his talks & read his books, but I will miss hearing his takes on new ideas & events. Such a sad loss for us all.

  • @dl4403
    @dl4403 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Dan Dennett is a treasure. Clearly under-appreciated with only 360k views!

  • @zeldaoot23
    @zeldaoot23 Před 3 lety +5

    Never get tired of listening to Dennett!

  • @FeedBackLoop248
    @FeedBackLoop248 Před 7 lety +189

    Dennett delivers again. The master of cross-discipline explanation.

  • @ErikCBruce
    @ErikCBruce Před 2 lety +2

    thank you for posting this
    . . . genuinely appreciate being able to return to this (over & over)
    beyond words

  • @morn1415
    @morn1415 Před 5 lety +31

    One of these cases where I want to give more than one like.

  • @gaiusjuliuscaesar3204
    @gaiusjuliuscaesar3204 Před 7 lety +139

    Charles Darwin on talks at google

    • @geertdepuydt2683
      @geertdepuydt2683 Před 7 lety +8

      Charles Darwin XXL

    • @bgoggin88
      @bgoggin88 Před 6 lety

      Matheus Mendonça Chuck D in the hizzy

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 Před 6 lety

      Dan is the end of philosophy, pretends to understand science. Should watch how water preserves memory, information and even react to thought.

    • @Sifar_Secure
      @Sifar_Secure Před 5 lety +9

      @@naimulhaq9626 Do you think that in order to restore his reputation as a philosopher Dan Dennett should acknowledge the validity of homeopathy?

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 Před 5 lety

      Dan is incapable to avoid stunt philosophy. But if you care please read the latest TIME article on PLACEBO.

  • @racecar06
    @racecar06 Před 7 lety +13

    8:40 is totally mind blowing ! Excellent talk 👌

  • @pathologicallyfriendly
    @pathologicallyfriendly Před 7 lety +79

    The guy at 1:02:55 is Dennett's caricature at 42:40

    • @mrloop1530
      @mrloop1530 Před 7 lety +21

      I'm not like sure what you like mean. Can you like give an example?

    • @robin7020
      @robin7020 Před 5 lety +12

      It's as though they put him in the audience on purpose.

    • @ilovethesmelloffire
      @ilovethesmelloffire Před 3 lety +1

      Lmao

  • @DieMasterMonkey
    @DieMasterMonkey Před 6 lety +8

    Epic, and very inspiring if you're into GA/EC/Machine Intelligence.We're all lucky to have Dennett around.

  • @theultimatereductionist7592

    So many questions to ask Dr Dennett... I would need to sit down and hammer them out with him for hours..

  • @Sxzod
    @Sxzod Před 18 dny +2

    47:03 What a simple and accurate explanation of evolution here

  • @AngeloXification
    @AngeloXification Před 4 lety +6

    It's amazing that almost anyone can have access to the fundamental constants of the universe. We have many great mathematicians and scientists through the ages that have granted the every day person the privilege of this knowledge

  • @msueldo
    @msueldo Před 5 lety +1

    Love this, please enable CC.

  • @MaherKhaldi
    @MaherKhaldi Před 7 lety +5

    excellent talk ! thank you!

  • @windokeluanda
    @windokeluanda Před 6 lety

    Brilliant. Congratulations DD.
    I feel sad for DD did not get the point of ANC.

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams Před 3 lety +3

    How would you establish music as a physical phenomenon. Thought is based on the physical brain and it arises from the physical. Thought about music is about organized sound, that is an organized set of vibrations in the air. Hearing is something that relates to the set of physical sounds. A physical ear drum is being aroused. Perception is what...of physical things. The process of writing involves material things. Recording is translating physical to digital (and digital devices are based on electronic activity that is physical), back to physical. The mental is grounded in the physical, and perception is rooted in the physical brain.

  • @TieXiongJi
    @TieXiongJi Před 7 lety +4

    I am so glad I listened to the whole explanation of memetic evolution.

    • @frozzytango9927
      @frozzytango9927 Před 3 lety

      kinda makes you think there was already intelligent design in the first place.

    • @JimBalter
      @JimBalter Před rokem

      @@frozzytango9927 It doesn't make intelligent people think that.

  • @peterpinn5330
    @peterpinn5330 Před rokem

    I listened to some of his speeches. This one: I am amazed.

  • @Mortum_Rex
    @Mortum_Rex Před 3 lety +9

    An absolute pleasure listening to Dr Dennett. I wish this talk was 10 hours long. Not sure I felt satisfied with the last answer though, which of course dodged the question after the contradiction was revealed. Ok, we don't know how the consciousness trick is done yet. That's why it's called a hard problem of science! And yet there is an assumption that it's Newtonian and it's all just qualitative and merely a sophisticated computer. To make that assumption when we have no idea how consciousness works yet and then to talk about respect for the truth in the same breath is just intellectual dishonestly. The bit about programming a funny bone is just bollocks. He is anthropomorphising a simple algorithm. That wouldn't constitute pain or give a machine rights if it got sophisticated enough. There is clearly something more at work here when it comes to consciousness. I'm not implying it's hocus pocus and woo, but rather a quantum layer underneath that makes minds more than just a collection of atoms. The Physicist Roger Penrose is worth listening to on this. The experiments with the carbon nanotubes at the base of neurons in particular are real interesting. They could be serving to somehow contain a quantum state that can be collapsed into a superposition at some triggered time. As of this time, I don't believe this has gone through a peer review process yet, but it's getting there. The experiments are showing that it's these nanotubes that are being affected by anesthesia, which has been a mystery for a long time. If this turns out to be true, then we may finally have a small foothold when it comes to the problem of consciousness.

    • @JimBalter
      @JimBalter Před rokem +1

      "That's why it's called a hard problem of science! "
      It's not called that. The so-called "hard problem of consciousness" is specifically *not* a problem in science, but rather in (bad) philosophy of mind. Dennett has written at length on why this unfortunate formulation is a deflection and diversion from the actual hard work to be done.
      "we have no idea how consciousness works yet"
      This isn't true. Perhaps you should read Dennett's book.
      And the Hameroff/Penrose stuff is a joke.

    • @Mortum_Rex
      @Mortum_Rex Před rokem +1

      @@JimBalter He knows how it works? Sounds like he should have won several Nobels by now. He hasn't. This one's going to take time. I'm in the Penrose camp. Consciousness is NOT a computation. I understand the pitfalls of religious charlatanism here, but that's no reason to reject ideas, which many in science seem to do purely because it's too thorny and they are simply too scared to go there.

    • @thefacethatstares
      @thefacethatstares Před 10 měsíci

      @@Mortum_Rex Have you looked into Wolfram's recent work involving 'multicomputation'? My understanding from his ideas about consciousness is approximately: "Consciousness is not \*a\* computation - instead, it arises from the 'computability-space' you get when considering \*all possible\* computations on given input information"

  • @jonahansen
    @jonahansen Před 2 lety

    Effing excellent awesome presentation!

  • @arthurwieczorek4894
    @arthurwieczorek4894 Před rokem +1

    52:45. My answer to Chomsky's quote: I can't understand all of science but I trust it because I have studied it enough to feel I understand some things to some extent.

  • @dannyiskandar
    @dannyiskandar Před rokem +1

    this is such an amazing talk

  • @mahtafatemi7071
    @mahtafatemi7071 Před 3 lety +2

    Wonderful to listen to so much wisdom.. i wonder if you have considered discussing A I with Yuval Noah Harrari...

  • @mnemonicman4161
    @mnemonicman4161 Před 7 lety +1

    Rights and responsibilities should increase hand-in-hand with comprehension/consciousness. This can't be based solely on being human, or not. We need a way to make comprehending constructs (e.g. A.I.) accountable, themselves.
    As an example, based on how we (people trained in forensic psychology) treat criminals: constructs could value something, which would be taken away as punishment. Eventually, the punishment is learned as a deterrent. At the same time, an action - incompatible with the morally reprehensible action - is rewarded.

  • @MonicaAliciaColunga
    @MonicaAliciaColunga Před 7 lety +4

    Amazing !

  • @Vladasization
    @Vladasization Před 6 lety +8

    Following the comparison between a termite colony and a neural network, could it be proposed that the former should posses, although somewhat bare, but still subjective consciousness? What about humanity as a whole? Could it also be subjectively conscious beyond what we, acting as single cells in the human society, could perceive?

    • @c.guydubois8270
      @c.guydubois8270 Před rokem

      There's a sci-fi novel with sentient termite colonies...

  • @chicagolandable
    @chicagolandable Před 4 lety +4

    If only I could be as smart and witty as this man. How he has made a simpleton of me.

    • @prometeo_X
      @prometeo_X Před 4 lety

      You still have time to catch up ;)

    • @theconnoisseur2346
      @theconnoisseur2346 Před 4 lety

      The theory of Dennett is rather oldfashioned and massively oversimplifying You can as well read the catechism of the catholic church, the intellectual and scientific level is approximately the same. Dennet is a Guru for the People who like a simple view of reality. If you want some real quality stuff, look at the papers of Einstein, Heisenberg, Schrödinger...

    • @prometeo_X
      @prometeo_X Před 4 lety +3

      @@theconnoisseur2346 looks like you've never read an actual philosopher

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams Před 5 lety +2

    I was wondering when we would stop getting Dennett doing science and start getting Dennett doing meta analysis of science (philosophy according to Dennett, more or less). It's within the first four minutes (and I think that's more interesting than whether Creationists got Schooled....Religious Naturalist-Evolutionist here).

  • @cogoid
    @cogoid Před 7 lety +34

    54:00 "We should not make persons out of AI because it would blur the lines of moral responsibility."
    But we already have systems that have life of their own -- corporations and whole countries with their dysfunctional governments ! Lots of individuals try to have their way, and out of confluence of many interests, things happen which no single constituent wanted or can be meaningfully held responsible for.

    • @jamesconners8396
      @jamesconners8396 Před 6 lety +1

      If there is redemption to be had, it's at the level of the individual. The moral and mental well-being of a single person acts as a force of positive influence within their network. From this arises sound government, corporations, etc.
      An AI super entity placed in charge of say, the government, has no stake in the game and there exists such a potential for chaos within that kind of system that it's unbelievable people still espouse it.

    • @bratwizard
      @bratwizard Před 4 lety +2

      @Bat Computer They're undead animated by bad zombie juju.. shiny, happy people eating brains.
      If all of the peoples would only hold hands all around the world, a lot of them would drown.

  • @Thamer4life
    @Thamer4life Před 7 lety +31

    I learned that it takes little more than to be a con artist to be given the podium at Google, ever since they invited Anita to talk.
    Dan Dennett, however, is an excellent choice; he is someone who demonstrably knows what he is talking about and has the achievements to prove it. Thank you for this.

    • @Thamer4life
      @Thamer4life Před 7 lety +21

      Since I brought this up, I'd like to paraphrase Dan Dennett's answer regarding his stance on PC culture, which is my favorite answer on the matter by far. The following is not word for word; for the exact quote, watch his interview with Gad Saad here on YT.
      "I think political correctness is a hindrance to the free exchange of ideas and is harmful to public discourse in general, especially if given free reign over legislation. However, I also think insulting people only for the sake of insulting them is a cruel thing to do. While we must be allowed the freedom to say whatever we want, being pleasant towards others, even those we disagree with, helps us move forward much more smoothly."

    • @romant142
      @romant142 Před 7 lety +2

      Walter Sullivan for sure

    • @theultimatereductionist7592
      @theultimatereductionist7592 Před 6 lety +2

      BOOM! LOGIC! His quote is worth repeating, so I shall:
      "I think political correctness is a hindrance to the free exchange of ideas and is harmful to public discourse in general, especially if given free reign over legislation. However, I also think insulting people only for the sake of insulting them is a cruel thing to do. While we must be allowed the freedom to say whatever we want, being pleasant towards others, even those we disagree with, helps us move forward much more smoothly."

    • @robertharrison4648
      @robertharrison4648 Před 6 lety +3

      The catch is, what is everyone else's idea or definition of political correctness?

    • @symmetrie_bruch
      @symmetrie_bruch Před 6 lety +5

      i agree but you certainly don´t need sarkeesian to see that: they had deepak chopra on, twice. these are only two of the most prominent cons, bullshit artists and generelly just plain idiots. sadly there are many many many more. having somebody like dan on is one of only a few rare exceptions.

  • @daithiocinnsealach3173
    @daithiocinnsealach3173 Před 4 lety +1

    Trees have reasons. Split brains show that humans often come up with ad hoc explanations for the things they do. This is why the scientific method is so essential. It gives us a verifiable and testable way to ensure the thing are we doing are truly rational and beneficial.

    • @theconnoisseur2346
      @theconnoisseur2346 Před 4 lety +1

      The theory of Dennett is rather oldfashioned and massively oversimplifying You can as well read the catechism of the catholic church, the intellectual and scientific level is approximately the same. Dennet is a Guru for the People who like a simple view of reality. If you want some real quality stuff, look at the papers of Einstein, Heisenberg, Schrödinger...

  • @renubhalla9005
    @renubhalla9005 Před 7 měsíci

    Dear Sir,I request you to give a list of terms or new terms coined by you and their meanings in the context in the glossary at the end of each book.This will help readers both scientific and common people.Thanks.

  • @wynlewis5357
    @wynlewis5357 Před 5 lety

    great speaker.

  • @fustian
    @fustian Před 7 lety +11

    two small corrections so far:
    protists are eukaryotes, and hominids as a taxon includes the apes
    signed,
    big dan dennett fan

    • @dorkthrone
      @dorkthrone Před 3 lety +1

      He's actually almost correct in one sense. Initially the classification of protists did include some prokaryotic forms, but those forms were later reclassified as monera. That was in the 1800s though. Perhaps he read that somewhere and misremembered?

  • @JoshYates
    @JoshYates Před 7 lety +26

    "Just 86 billion semi-automounous neurons doing their thing" - Daniel Dennett

    • @electricrice
      @electricrice Před 2 lety +2

      An absurd statement that is the result of circular reasoning.

    • @majisher
      @majisher Před rokem

      @@electricrice what is circular about it?

    • @5piles
      @5piles Před rokem

      scientism

  • @sdmarlow3926
    @sdmarlow3926 Před 7 lety +2

    His TED talks were more interesting, but I'm taking this in from an traditional AI perspective (which is only at the very end of his book). Dennett is the only one speaking out against Chomsky, but I haven't heard him mention Skinner and behaviorism directly. Indirectly, he replaces the idea of language as the end all with the lower level idea of meme's we attach words too.

    • @no_more_spamplease5121
      @no_more_spamplease5121 Před 3 měsíci

      Dennett does mention behaviorism directly in some videos where he discusses evolution. And he also wrote an article titled "Skinner skinned".

    • @sdmarlow3926
      @sdmarlow3926 Před 3 měsíci

      @@no_more_spamplease5121 Interesting, but Skinner was talking about a narrow aspect of behavior; that animal behavior was driven by environement, and I think Dennett innate and learned abilities, which are like the bread of the behavior sandwich. Skinners conditioning really has nothing to do with the language aspect, and I think both Skinner and Chomsky should have just stayed in their own lanes. *lots of wrongness to go around

  • @Volound
    @Volound Před 7 lety +20

    better than having war criminals on, and nice to see the comments are enabled.

    • @DieMasterMonkey
      @DieMasterMonkey Před 6 lety +2

      Volound Don't think you know what "war criminal" means.

  • @JCW7100
    @JCW7100 Před 4 lety

    When Dennett says "hero" at 10:16, doesn't it kind of sound like how Stan Lee would say it? Also great presentation! :)

  • @williampierce7188
    @williampierce7188 Před 6 lety +15

    This man has dedicated his whole life to the epistemological effort of explaining how we came to be what we are without including the line "And then the whole thing gets sprinkled with pixie dust". Dualism seems to be our brain's default stance, but unfortunately it gives us no purchase on anything.

  • @craighoyer6543
    @craighoyer6543 Před 7 lety

    Dennett gives a charitable approach to fearing Frankenstein's monster. I predict that Asimov's 3 Laws win out and that machines endure full domestication with machines' own help, and Dennett's creativity-enhancing machines lead our way.

  • @Life_42
    @Life_42 Před 7 dny

    Great man.

  • @tekannon7803
    @tekannon7803 Před 3 lety +2

    Dear Mr Dennett, Thank you for your insights and extensive research and your knowledge in general that you have so graciously shared with the world. Dan, I have a wrench to throw in the spokes of your wheel of wisdom, however. We have got to factor in that the living cell to have happened by chance in the primordial soup of an early Earth is not on-the-charts of possibility. The outer membrane of the simplest cell, a yeast cell, has 10 to the 78 billion combinations and only one is possible for it to work. Secondly, at 35:50 in your talk you mention Picasso's quote: "I don't seek, I find." It is not an arrogant summation of his own mind power, what he means is that as a painter he doesn't stop until something in his mind tells him that he has found the best way to solve the particular problem that he was working on. Nothing more.

    • @damonhollenbeck957
      @damonhollenbeck957 Před 3 lety +1

      You forgot to think about how many times a yeast cell was almost created before it worked. A single 5 gram packet of yeast contains approximately 90 billion yeast cells.

    • @damonhollenbeck957
      @damonhollenbeck957 Před 3 lety +3

      yes, the possibility is low, but over the given the timeline of the existence of life, the probability that a something would organize is actually not unlikely.

    • @danielboyd4079
      @danielboyd4079 Před 2 lety +1

      Dennett has a response to this towards the beginning of his book Darwin’s Dangerous Idea (to the probability of the first cell emerging via natural processes)

  • @hydbhtfs7802
    @hydbhtfs7802 Před 7 lety +12

    Daniel, I wish you do not die. You make us "think" differently

  • @salogg1
    @salogg1 Před 7 lety +3

    Please, english subtitles!

  • @mahtafatemi987
    @mahtafatemi987 Před 3 lety +13

    Daniel Dennett on a discussion panel with Yuval Noah Harrari. that would be an amazing blast.

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před 2 lety

    Watched all of it again

  • @TheTroposa
    @TheTroposa Před 5 lety +3

    So funny when he talks about how Picaso's genius was selling all his paintings that weren’t perfect. Then says to the Google audience "don’t you wish you could do that?".
    IDK if he new the irony in what he said?

  • @morganthomas2242
    @morganthomas2242 Před 5 lety

    What remarkable connections get made

  • @bratwizard
    @bratwizard Před 4 lety +4

    I think it would be better to say, in some circumstances, that reason is revealed, rather than we (or whomever) didn't have a reason in our minds until retrospectively afterward. Thus reason can be considered latent and dormant, even if not obvious or apparent, until such moment that its purpose is understood, and thus the reason revealed. I've been mulling this over and wondering if it could also be something like the way sculptors talk about sculpting-- chipping away everything that *isn't* part of the artwork until what remains is the point-- the purpose-- the reason-- for the artwork.
    I had another thought in a different portion of the talk where he was talking about termites (chaotic / evolutionary design) versus man (pre-considered, specific design), and I was wondering if perhaps the termites were receiving their manufacturing orders via some different sort of channel. While they may have evolved to carry out specific "mindless" actions, was the reason for those actions not similarly "revealed" in a manner similar to the sculptor's art-- in that they were "chipped away" over successive iterations to be the embodiment of the reason.

  • @alexandersmith6140
    @alexandersmith6140 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for uploading this! Dennett's so lucid and such a wonderful connector of dots.
    His implied acceptance of plutocrats at around 1:10:00 disturbs me, though, and his assertion that "the damage done by post-modernists to the very ideal of objectivity and truth is... that's vandalism" at 1:13:25 is wholly ignorant of what philosophers discussing postmodernism are actually saying. I can't be the only one who thinks this?

  • @AndreasHLux
    @AndreasHLux Před 4 lety

    Hes getting older since former times, but he look similiar this time in the former at Tufts University.
    True individual of science.

    • @theconnoisseur2346
      @theconnoisseur2346 Před 4 lety

      The theory of Dennett is rather oldfashioned and massively oversimplifying You can as well read the catechism of the catholic church, the intellectual and scientific level is approximately the same. Dennet is a Guru for the People who like a simple view of reality. If you want some real quality stuff, look at the papers of Einstein, Heisenberg, Schrödinger...

    • @damonhollenbeck957
      @damonhollenbeck957 Před 3 lety

      @@theconnoisseur2346 Dennett, unlike the others you have mentioned is actually still alive, so who is really old-fashioned

  • @marcoribeiro3053
    @marcoribeiro3053 Před rokem

    And some of Gaudi's critics (and there are many) would say that HE was clueless (not that I agree). But yes, he was the boss, not a termite.

  • @gregmeissner9960
    @gregmeissner9960 Před 4 lety +1

    excellent stuff

    • @theconnoisseur2346
      @theconnoisseur2346 Před 4 lety

      The theory of Dennett is rather oldfashioned and massively oversimplifying You can as well read the catechism of the catholic church, the intellectual and scientific level is approximately the same. Dennet is a Guru for the People who like a simple view of reality. If you want some real quality stuff, look at the papers of Einstein, Heisenberg, Schrödinger...

  • @graemeroberts2935
    @graemeroberts2935 Před 5 lety

    This is really brilliant and exciting.

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před 17 dny +1

    Watched all of it again after hearing he just passed away a 2 days ago yesterday from NDT facebook post 😢 1:07:04

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před 3 lety

    Brilliant

  • @aristotle4048
    @aristotle4048 Před 7 lety +4

    Dawkin's book 'The Selfish Gene' is the best overview of neo-Darwinism, certainly; it is not however up to date with modern evolutionary theory, in which genes are just one (not domineering) part of a system, filled with feedback loops.

  • @chintudachannel
    @chintudachannel Před 7 lety +2

    After just first few minutes I went on to read the comments!! :)

  • @CristalMediumBlue
    @CristalMediumBlue Před 2 lety

    amazing

  • @fritzdoerring9058
    @fritzdoerring9058 Před 4 lety

    What about a deterrent governor somewhat like a nerve pain to restrain reasoning robots from harming us?

  • @RileyRampant
    @RileyRampant Před 6 lety +3

    the 'bare brain' isn't merely a programmable logic array (aimless, purposeless neurons)
    it has an architecture, vast numbers of functional areas (most notably for vision and language, social dynamics, learning, etc., etc). to that extent, his analysis is actually quite misleading - i suppose to beat the drum for social/cultural evolution (in service of, of course, corporation-think). you dont have to negate the one to appreciate the other.

  • @thiagomartins4992
    @thiagomartins4992 Před 7 lety

    CADA SEGUNDO É UM BLOOING MIND DIFERENTE

  • @mehdibaghbadran3182
    @mehdibaghbadran3182 Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @jakeR1954rr
    @jakeR1954rr Před 6 lety +1

    Haaa! The "virtual machines" concept made me think immediately of Mckenna and his cultural operating system talks...

  • @sulljoh1
    @sulljoh1 Před 8 dny +1

    Rip, Dan ❤️

  • @Baumann992
    @Baumann992 Před 5 lety +5

    Does anyone know where you can find the tree of life graphic he uses or something similar as a poster?

  • @mixedmeds
    @mixedmeds Před 10 měsíci

    makes it sound like intelligence in general is only an effect, not a feature, so any structure could be capable of intelligence if it produced the effect

  • @mfg587
    @mfg587 Před 3 lety

    When leaders realize they are not supposed to oversee anything but instead create a nurturing environment and defend their team rather than push real progress can once again be made rather than 0’s being added to bank accounts. Capitalism is inherently good, but lack of regulation from the people, like the “we the people” has led our leaders down the wrong path, the internet is the cure for that I believe. Information is so powerful, more that I believe I can comprehend.

  • @iNuchalHead
    @iNuchalHead Před 7 lety +1

    Is Problem vs. Mystery the same as Natural vs. Supernatural? Or, is it more like How vs. Why?

    • @andrewlunceford5503
      @andrewlunceford5503 Před 7 lety +2

      It's simply problems can be solved, mysteries cannot.

    • @superdog797
      @superdog797 Před 4 lety

      Chomsky talks about this extensively in a lecture available on CZcams. Rats cannot solve a prime number maze because they just lack the relevant concepts - they are biologically limited and hence that is a mystery for them. They can’t even understand the problem. For humans, Chomsky argues, there are limitations in our abilities that probably render much of the universe as unintelligible mysteries.

  • @thomasmurphy9429
    @thomasmurphy9429 Před 18 dny +2

    RIP King

  • @wavelordmelly
    @wavelordmelly Před 3 lety

    i love him

  • @Quintilianator
    @Quintilianator Před 7 lety +2

    His terminology is just a little off at the beginning: protists are also eukaryotes. Protists are just single-celled eukaryotes, and eukaryotes are cells that have a nucleus and organelles.

  • @andrewwalker1377
    @andrewwalker1377 Před 5 lety

    Wow such a pleasure to visit fellow truth seekers and valuers

  • @FutureAbe
    @FutureAbe Před 5 lety +6

    A great mind there. Im sad to see him aging

    • @keitha4768
      @keitha4768 Před 5 lety +3

      I agree. We should definitely freeze him.

    • @negbefla6956
      @negbefla6956 Před 4 lety +1

      Accept it

    • @stevetucker5851
      @stevetucker5851 Před 4 lety +2

      Mythagoras Yeah, hopefully he comes to Christ so he can experience eternal life instead of eternal death.

    • @mgrycz
      @mgrycz Před 3 lety +2

      @@stevetucker5851 Please, try to avoid speaking.

    • @John-qo9hw
      @John-qo9hw Před rokem

      @@mgrycz 😂

  • @reinforcedpenisstem
    @reinforcedpenisstem Před 7 lety +11

    I think he's right about free will as well.

    • @RobertASmith-yy7ge
      @RobertASmith-yy7ge Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately since you believe we have no free will, you have no reason to believe Dennett is right about free will.

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem Před 3 lety

      @@RobertASmith-yy7ge Dennett believe there is free will, actually.

  • @douglasw1545
    @douglasw1545 Před 7 lety

    Why is the video so glitchy

  • @borilboyanov5544
    @borilboyanov5544 Před 2 lety

    we're top of the shelf designs haha

  • @willywhitten4918
    @willywhitten4918 Před 5 lety +1

    *"Some folks calls it a sling blade, I calls it a kaiser blade...hmph"~Karl Childers*
    \\][//

  • @nukeout
    @nukeout Před rokem

    Really good talk - now lets figure out how to leverage this to solve the #climatecrisis!

  • @ruinerblodsinn6648
    @ruinerblodsinn6648 Před 19 dny +1

    RIP Mr Dennett

  • @shanejohns7901
    @shanejohns7901 Před 6 lety

    At around the 50:00 mark, he mentions that AI 'don't have any skin in the game'. And while I agree with him in the LITERAL definition of 'skin', his comment breaks down when the phrase is taken figuratively as I expect he intended. AI has more 'skin in the game' than we who are merely biological and degrade entirely (to the point of death, and therefore non-existence) over time. AI, it would seem, already has that problem solved. AI, it seems by definition, can be backed up nearly infinitely -- certainly with enough redundancy to make the issue moot. So AI would really be looking at a near-immortality with which we mere humans cannot at this time compete.

  • @johns.7297
    @johns.7297 Před rokem

    Dennet seems to support the precautionary principle.

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před rokem

    I think most of the time the camera should be pointed at the presentation screen

  • @VickiSchwarz
    @VickiSchwarz Před 2 lety +1

    8:40 - Daniel is about to talk on how there are no contractor ants and things. I watched a youtube video (will be looking for the source) which it was pointed out that in Australia there were either Leaf Cutter or Carpenter ant nests or termite nests that were so large you could see them from above. They make giant nests and farm a particular kind of mushroom. Have six different classes of that ant (so far) like how bees have workers and queen and drones

    • @dyadyabafomyot1668
      @dyadyabafomyot1668 Před rokem

      I believe ants and termites have their own kind of intelligence, though it's different from human intelligence

  • @DouwedeJong
    @DouwedeJong Před 3 lety +1

    Google - You can not say you have not been warned ! What are the unintended consequences of your business model. We gave you a change because you said:

  • @The22on
    @The22on Před 7 lety +1

    As Mr. Spock would say (with one eyebrow raised), "Fascinating!"

  • @smitty1647
    @smitty1647 Před 5 lety

    i like, really liked that, like, that one, like, questioner, like, kept saying, like, the very, like, word that dan, like, made a, like, point of, like, pointing out as, like, a viral, like, word

  • @antrewt
    @antrewt Před rokem

    He says 'the implication of this is that the mind is the effect, not the cause' - what do you mean by 'mind', sir? The brain? Or are you referring to consciousness as it is for us, and calling that the mind? The mind is a concept so instead of conceptualizing, let's use words to point out what is. There is awareness: there is sensation: there is thought: there is imagination: there is feeling, emotion. Really, we could say that there is just 'awareness' and its content, and the implication of the statement that 'mind is the effect, not the cause' could be read two ways. One, that the content of awareness is effect: two, that awareness itself is effect: three, that cause and effect are intellectualizations, conceptualizations of processes that are all infinite and eternal, because 'what is' is, at least to our small selves, infinite and eternal, at least for practical purposes. It is certainly not known whether awareness is an effect because science has absolutely nothing concrete to say about what awareness is, how it comes about, what function it could possibly have when mechanical unconscious processing would seem far more seamless than conscious processing. Pain and suffering wouldn't exist without awareness yet may still produce their necessary mechanical effects: so why be conscious? Given that consciousness, by which I mean awareness, is called 'the hard problem of science', it is very pretentious of any scientist to talk about awareness being an effect rather than a cause. In a sense, the entire content of consciousness can be seen as effects, if we are to accept the main postulates of known science, but the honest, non-conceptual answer is that we have no right assuming that reality is composed of cause-and-effect sequences because causes and effects, we could assume, travel eternally in every direction, so what could the original cause have been? And given that past and future do not exist, only the now, saying that reality is a causeless and spontaneous happening within awareness which itself is a spontaneous and causeless happening would seem to me a sensible and credible response, and the best of the three. But in truth we know nothing of consciousness, and can never learn a thing about it through science, because it treats only the 'objective world' as real, even though the latter is just a happening in consciousness we call 'sensation' which is then conceptualized, which means converted into forms of social cognition.

  • @Kreadus005
    @Kreadus005 Před 5 lety +2

    01:05:25 Ah, I think he didn't give Panpsychism a good shake. First person perspective has to be accounted for somehow. What model of understanding can we apply to it. Its easy enough to imagine zombie world where agents run about, explained by "how comes", fashion tools "what for's" and go about their business. Perhaps there's a potential-energy for first-person perspective embedded in existence... only brought about through a special condition. Or maybe its the sum of smaller potentials? How could we test?
    The question for AI, I feel, is whether a specific configuration of matter is required to create a first-person-perspective like we have... or whether its whatever configuration of matter than can be said to contain similar relational information.
    A human brain with firing neurons, trying to survive, is a very different thing from the applied calculus of activation functions in an artificial neural network, being ran through a microprocessor. At a vague outcome level, they may appear to be similar, but the devil is in the details.
    Its conceivable that through some massive cluster of simulated neural networks you could simulate a whole human brain using applied calculus, activation functions, tensors. The question is, would a brain emulated on a processor hold the same first-person-perspective of a meat-brain? How could we possibly tell?

  • @darkpandemic5802
    @darkpandemic5802 Před 4 lety +2

    super

    • @theconnoisseur2346
      @theconnoisseur2346 Před 4 lety

      The theory of Dennett is rather oldfashioned and massively oversimplifying You can as well read the catechism of the catholic church, the intellectual and scientific level is approximately the same. Dennet is a Guru for the People who like a simple view of reality. If you want some real quality stuff, look at the papers of Einstein, Heisenberg, Schrödinger...

  • @vipulvatsyayan6955
    @vipulvatsyayan6955 Před 2 lety

    termite vs architechture model got me

  • @billwatters8984
    @billwatters8984 Před 6 lety

    Is survival instinct a meme or genetically inherited? I am unable to decide if survival behavior can be inherited by monkeys; and by extrapolation, humans. Recently, I witnessed a woman in a London Thai restaurant who was traumatized at seeing an artificial snake hanging from a lampshade. Later we learned that the lady had previously experienced a real snake incident in her native Thailand. My philosophy tutor has not been able to fully explain to me why monkeys breed in London Zoo and who have never ever seen a snake should panic immediately when confronted with a rubber replica of a snake.

  • @minnjony
    @minnjony Před rokem

    How does the first meme come into being?

  • @davidnrose2135
    @davidnrose2135 Před rokem

    His RI lecture is much better I think, bit annoying that he keeps buttering up the Google employees as well. I am still a Dan Dannett Stan thoigh

  • @TupacMakaveli1996
    @TupacMakaveli1996 Před rokem

    The beginning stats are pretty grim tho.

  • @rangedkid
    @rangedkid Před 7 lety +5

    At 9 min in, actually there are boss termites and architect termites. They're called workers and soldiers. Ants and termites have hierarchical and complex social behavioral systems. They call on repairs to damaged pathways, they relocate families to stay with others until a new space is built, etc.

    • @StuartMirsky
      @StuartMirsky Před 7 lety +8

      Realove no, what he means by "boss termites" are termites who think about what's being done, make plans to get it done and direct other termites to do it by implementing elements of those plans. Dennett is reminding us that there is a great deal of behavioral complexity in nature through which living entities seemingly accomplish purposive goals where those entities have no knowledge of those purposes and nobody in particular has those goals.

  • @cynic150
    @cynic150 Před 5 lety

    D.D. said somewhere here that he did not know how music could be bad. Well this is just ridiculous! There are so many different kinds of music and just as many tastes. So what one person likes, another will say is bad. I know that personally, there are certain kinds of music that are really bad. I hate it. Other pieces are works which can uplift the listener, but there are others which just allow the hearer to wallow in depravity and drag people down.

  • @lukostello
    @lukostello Před 6 lety

    this whole post comprehension AI. Is sort of a bizarre phrase. I don't think it is so much that the A.I. is incapable of comprehension as they are exhibiting all the behavior of comprehension aside from communicating their train of thought to us. But to me that seems less like evidence that it is incapable of comprehension but more evidence that we lack the comprehensive capability to understand the A.I. which is our own failing not the machine's. Or maybe when he said post comprehension he was referring to human's not understanding rather than computers in which case I am restating his own opinion

  • @eeprou1
    @eeprou1 Před 5 lety +8

    So we are termites that created meme platform

    • @rasmith_99
      @rasmith_99 Před 3 lety

      haha 😆 yea! Only a university professor would come up with such crap.

    • @ilovethesmelloffire
      @ilovethesmelloffire Před 3 lety +1

      @@rasmith_99 douche

    • @rasmith_99
      @rasmith_99 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ilovethesmelloffire good one! lol. Go back to your lowlife life.