Worth buying Sony WH-1000XM4 in 2024? 🤔 (vs WH-1000XM5, ULT Wear)
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I got a pair of these in good condition. Only some minor cosmetic scratches that are only noticeable if you know they're there for $70 bucks. Best $70 I ever spent on earbuds or headphones. Would have gladly paid double that.
For me anything Sony has offered after the XM4s is just very gimmicky. I don't like the way the new headphones will not fold up like the XM4s. My XM4s are really comfortable and sound great. I've seen no need to upgrade since.
There are many who share your sentiments.
I actually prefer the ULT since it's more comfortable for me, blocks certain noises a bit better and with the right EQ settings sounds very similar to the XM4 (to my non-audiophile ears) except more "depth". But you have the XM4 already and they are comfortable for you then certainly no reason to upgrade. But for new purchase I would go with the ULT which is also a lot cheaper where I live. And it folds up and comes with a hard case just like the XM4.
@@saschaheylikI agree, I also like the ult a lot, to me it sounds better and is more comfortable than both XM4 and XM5. The upside to the XM4 is the sleek look (both headphones and case), the ult looks super clunky in comparison
@@satori8626 yes that is true. Can't have it all I guess. It's funny that even if I was rich and had an unlimited budget the perfect anc headphones don't seem to exist
@@saschaheylik yes, it makes you want to start your own headphone company doesn’t it. We could easily beat the established brands haha
In my opinion the XM4 are still a good buy, they are comfortable, you can fold them and take them anywhere, on the other hand the xm5 do not seem to me to be a significant evolution and the fact of not being able to fold them takes away points from them, being that they are headphones designed for traveling and personally I do not like the design line that many headphone manufacturers are following, they look very large and not very transportable unlike the xm4 which look a little more "pretty" to my taste, in the case of headphones I do not see it necessary to have to make a change every 2 or 3 years as if it were a cell phone, I think that if you like how it sounds and they fit your budget it is more than a victory.
That's why I see people still holding on to these.
Bought the xm4 yesterday and I love it. I like this more than my soundcore q45
Dub at deafening volume, not many can do that, but if AMC is the main point, it's better than xm5, which got bricked by adaptive anc.
I got these for $160 a few months back & I like a heavier bass so these are perfect for me I can wear them all day & still be comfortable personally
I know nothing about audio and the terminology, but since I needed a new headset I have been comparing the XM4 as well as the ULT Wear, soundcore Q30 and bose QuietComfort over the last couple of days.
IMHO I would say that the ULT probably wins over the XM4 and the others *with the right EQ settings*, closely followed by the QC in case I still find some reason to decide against the QC.
First thing I noticed about the XM4 is that I could not wear it long because the cups are too shallow for my ears. With the Q30 it was better but not perfect.
So based on fit/comfort alone that leaves the ULT and the QC which I can both wear for multiple hours. The ULT has a higher clamping force which bothered me in the beginning when I had the headband set on 3 clicks, but it turns out that this was too small for me and I can set it to 5 clicks and then it's ok so far. Would still prefer it a touch looser but perhaps it will still loosen up a bit with use?
After testing different settings I found that I might even prefer the ULT sound over XM4 and the others.
With these EQ settings I find that it sounds so close to the XM4 that I find it hard to tell the difference except it has more "depth"/better bass without losing anything else:
4,5,10,7,5, ult1, clear bass 0
I find that EQ to be best for different kinds of music that I tried it with, no ult with otherwise same settings has too little bass and ult2 is just pointlessly overblown in most cases. Except I found certain songs where there is e.g. a drum beat but it's too quiet for my taste. Using ult 2 on that then gets it to where I would want it to be.
The Bose QC is not bad at all, and contrary to what I read it also has good "audible" bass as well as a bit more clarity in the highs. But the ULT once again seems to have more "depth" and if you want a bass that is also felt a bit, not just heard.
Regarding ANC I also find the ULT to be identical to the XM4 but a bit better at blocking certain frequencies. The QC seems very close to the XM4 but lets in just slightly more noise.
The software features of the ULT like the touch controls on the ULT seem identical to the XM4. You can hold your hand on the right side of the ULT, it will pause the music and you can hear someone and have a conversation. This actually works really well, it doesn't introduce a static noise like soundcore products with their transparency mode.
The sony app is telling me on the ult that when multipoint is enabled LDAC cannot be used. But tbh I am not sure I would be able to hear the difference. And SBC XQ 552 would be better than LDAC that can run as low as 330.
I found that I can connect the ULT on my linux PC using SBC XQ 552kbps and have a stable connection, while the XM4 and QC are only stable at regular SBC. They offer higher XQ settings but then I get an unstable connection or regular moments where the sound drops out. I am not sure if Windows or Android support or use the the higher SBC XQ bitrates or regular SBC only.
The ULT also looks and feels like it has the most robust build and hinges.
So in summary I would say that it's not worth it to buy the XM4 over the ULT, which is also a lot cheaper right now on german Amazon, 140€ instead of 230€.
I still use a xm2 and xm3 for watching tv 😊
Aaron, Thanks for posting this video
Frankly, I think that the ULT is better for me. It is two headphones in one because you can enjoy the BASS as well. After that, you can lower the bass to listen to quiet music. Also, the noise isolation in the ULT, specifically in the center, may be better. Buying a product that has an old battery and circuit may oxidize or suffer. Problems: I do not know if the production line for the XM4 headphones was stopped when the XM5 was launched
MOMENTUM 4 the BEST
I just cut off his mics because the noise canceling was making an unbearable high-pitched noise.
I love mine, the comfort and sound have no comparison, if I had to replace them I *might* just consider the Sonos Ace for their Atmos support, but otherwise I’d rather just get another pair of XM4s.
Definitely worth buying.
To improve audio, you can use Wavelet.
What surprised me the most is the ANC quality which is very close to the Bose Ultra headphones. If I had tested them side by side, I wouldn't have bought the Bose.
Review oneplus buds 3 pro and also compare them with nothing ear 2024
Hoping for a review of the galaxy buds 3 pro on a non Samsung Android device 😢
I am waiting , until black Friday, for wxm6 announcment, considering it occurs. If not, then I am bying wxm5 at a good price, like it was last year.
pros:
1-Its foldable and far more compact i was putting it directly to my jackets big pocket in winter
2-its far more comfortable because xm5s headband is worser for long use its like knife
3-It has faaaar mor phsicallity in its bass because of bigger drivers
cons:
1-its trancparency mode is MONO (may be only my unit)
2-its muddy as hell even getting bass from treble notes
3- very bad sound signature compared to momentum 3 in its time
4-no aptx as XM3 has so on android LDAC is a headace to get better quality than pure AAC encoder of android. LDAC has very low volume or quality problems on a lot of android versions.
Im really waiting for this video to come out, im still having a hard time figuring out if im going to buy ult wear because its newer or xm4 because of the anc like everyone's saying
Hey Aaron, Oneplus Buds pro 3 came out, please review them ❤ and compare them with the airpod pro 2 and soundcore liberty 4 nc
In the area where I live, the price of these headphones is the same as ult wear and Bose qc45
What is your suggestion for purchase?
I literally just tried the XM4, ULT, QC and soundcore Q30 over the last few days and would go with the ULT with the right EQ settings. Check my longer comment for more info.
Is there a release date for Sony's new TWS?
hello sir , i have to buy earbuds
1. boult klarity 3
2. cmf by nothing buds
which one can i prefer please reply
I would've bought the XM4 instead of XM5 if the mic quality was better
Hi I'm surprised to see your video cuz it's suitable to the occasion.I want to downgrade my wh_1000xm4 to 2.0.6/2.0.5 but I can't find any version available older than 2.5.0,so could you inform me where can I find the old version I need?
Got them recently but wasn’t a big fan of the sound
And that's why you have to take the app in order to play with the equalizer and possibly look at threads to find settings allowing you to get closer to the Harman curve.
@@Gonzora I’ve played around with it for a while but never really found any settings I liked I just found the low frequency’s to be lacking and the mids get washed out whenever I turn up the bass. But what would you reccomend as the eq?
The Sony XM3 and XM4 sound like listening to music through a wall. I tried both models and both disappointed me greatly.
Yeah.
What is worth to buy
is the WH-1000XM3.
Used.
We want Jabra Elite 10 Gen 2 review. plzplzplz
Older model so battery will be less capacity due to old age even if the unit is brand new. Battery degrades over time whether used or unused.
Not worth at all
Give the xm4s a rest!! The bass is horrendous…the anc has horrible hiss and sound is incredibly dark. They have aged terribly against Sonys own newer products let alone the rest of market…even ch 720s sound better
Aaron, please check your email ( letter from Verum Audio). Thanks!