2000s animation and it's portrayal of male centered women.
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hi, just wanted to make a note about talking about rugrats in paris. i really disregarded cocos other reason for wanting to be with chaz and just more so wanted to focus on her attitudes and behaviors. my apologies for leaving out the other part of why she wanted to marry him but imma be honest i wasnt really up for talking about that. I'm human, i'm not gonna get everything exact all the time and that's ok.
This is why my favorite sailor ranger is Sailor Jupiter. Makoto was indeed, boy crazy and her greatest prospect was to become the wife but that prospect wasn’t her entire identity. She loved cooking, plants, and hanging out with her girls. Even when drooling over a cute guy, Makoto never put a boy above herself or the rest of the sailor squad. 💚💚💚
she's my favorite other than Usagi who I kin 🙏
news Media will do that, find someone to make an entire movement sound crazy or invalidate them and have that person on as if they speak for the entire movement
Or some people are just this wilfully oblivious and stupid. Feminism is not to blame for anything. Some people need to take responsibility for their own actions to start using their brains.
How difficult of a concept is it to understand that, women are human beings and have the right to their own bodily autonomy and the ability live their life however they sees it.
There's a great book about this topic. It's called they way we never were, especially about the deceptive depiction of 1950 housewives life's versus the reality of the 1950's and coverture
Unpopular opinion (apparently lol) they did kagome so bad in inuyasha smh I loved the show but come on now 😭
she was never in school 😭😭😭😭
My mom has always been male centered which is probably why we don’t get along. I went to visit her and my grandma last weekend. She asked if I wanted to go out to breakfast with her and my grandma. I said yes and I put on a cute dress, a hair bow, and makeup. She asked me why am I getting dressed up when my man isn’t here with me. I said because I like looking pretty for myself and we are going out. That’s when I realized that she has not changed despite being single for years. She is still male centered. She also still coddles my brother who is a grown man and has disrespected her on multiple occasions and even ruined her credit after she co-signed for his first apartment and he stopped paying his rent. I also had an ex best friend who was male centered as well and treated me like crap and even stopped hanging out with me everytime she got a new boyfriend. I admit that in highschool and college I was male centered. I had low self esteem and wanted love from men since I never got that from my father but I never put men over my family and female friends and I grew out of that after college. I feel like male centered women are dangerous to women because they put men before women. It’s important for all women to have interests and hobbies OUTSIDE OF A MAN! For me, I enjoy Pilates, bicycling, reading, drawing, swimming, word games, puzzles, and watching my favorite shows and movies.
I am glad there's a name for the women that I grew up surrounded with. My step-dad's mom pretty much gave up smoking because her husband convinced her that women couldn't smoke and she pretty much did my stepdad's laundry until he got married and was in his late twenties.
Seriously, it's still shocks me so many women blame feminism for" having to go to work" or how they don't understand that being stuck as a stay-at-home wife / mom is not fun.
We live in a patriarchal society that has taught us that women have to give up a mountain of the time and energy and effort into nurse meeting and making men Happy while men don't really have to do a bunch... That is a screwed up concept.
Feminism beans that women just want to be treated equally to Men and have the same rights and privileges men do.
The ability to do what you want and to be able to go live your life however you want.
That's it. I get the North American educational system is garbage, but come on !
what if a woman is fufilled being a stay-at-home wife/ mom? (well those kinds of women's perspectives don't matter because it's impossible for a family to live one a single income, and whether a woman wants to be a house wife or a girl boss, she still serves a man at the end of the day)
Men give up their entire spirit to be with women, wtf are you talking about ? 99% of all workplace deaths are men. Men are literally out here dying so women can remain coddled and entitled. 80% of suicides are men. You don’t live in a patriarchy. You women put pressure on each other and then blame us, while simultaneously calling men worse than animals and claiming we are useless and you don’t need us. Which is it?
1 men do need to do a bunch and 2 they can't just do what they want when they want with their lives.
beans lol
Also, people seem to forget that many women DID work back then, even before society became more progressive and feminist. It's just that it generally wasn't considered "ideal", and the kind of jobs women could have were very limited compared to today. So, even without feminism, many women would still have to work, especially for stereotypically "feminine" jobs, like being maids, waitresses, tailors, teachers, nurses, etc., unless they come from wealth or have married into wealth (which obviously doesn't apply to most women). Either that, or they're gonna be starving on the streets.
I thought you were gonna bring up that Coco needed to get married in order to impress the CEO (I forgot his name but I don't want to call him Mako) in order to get the job she wanted.
i was but i just wasn't interested in talking about it ngl.
i more so wanted to focus on how she was just awful and but still wanted chaz's attention so bad.
It might also play into her having to bend to patriarchal roles and standards. Her boss (and company she works for) is Japanese, and Japan is still very patriarchal; they still believe women are not worth much (no matter how smart or successful they are) if they’re still unmarried and/or have no children. (It’s not just women, men get similar treatment too, of getting more/better prospects if they’re married and/or have children, it’s just not as intense or pressuring as compared to women.) Her boss was essentially pressuring her to marry and have children by dangling a promotion over her head; something Coco clearly didn’t want but was willing to do to “advance her career”.
Yes, Coco being selfish and manipulative, with how she treated Chaz and Chuckie (and would’ve treated them if they had married), made her out to be the ‘bad guy’; but as an adult, I can’t be 100% hating on her when she was essentially forced herself (with her job) to find a partner she wouldn’t be interested in.
(The woman was clearly very career focused. She didn’t want to be tied down with marriage nor have/want kids. Good for her and her goals, bad on her company for making her make this LIFE decision.)
You mean Mr. Yamaguchi?
i love how afab people have become such a force in western animation over the past decade. Best way to tell complex stories about us is to let us run the show!
Coco is such a great example because she shows not only the harms of a child hating mentality, but how even the most successful woman in the world still feel the need to do anything for male validation.
According to some historians Henry repeatedly sent letters to a disinterested Anne until he invited her to court to be closer
She wasn’t interested but when the king summons you
You do not have the right to refuse the king
Would you like me to bring this up to Burb n Bougie, Therese Lee, Cecilia Regina, and Mel Hamlett? They talk a lot on decentering men and patriarchy.
yes id love to know your thoughts!
I'd like to have her Burb n Bougie talk about the ImAllex situation.
@harriyanna Ohhh and I wanna point out that that Helga's parents are Boomers (as in the generation that voted away so many protections and a corporate centered government and many women, even progressive ones, centered around men)
@@roxassora2706 You know Burb?
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 I know of her
I think that the issue of women complaining about feminism is more a greater issue in... a majority of people, really.
Its that so many people just take the status quo as the default of all of human existence, and really can't imagine an existence far beyond their own life.
So, to them, of course feminism is bad, because their imagination is so incredibly inflexible that they just imagine their normal life and existing society, except they stay home like its the weekend forever.
These people *literally* cannot fathom the implications of what they're asking for when they glorify a world where women are less than full people.
Same goes for a lot of issues, really- there's a great deal of people who believe that government regulations on businesses are totally unreasonable because they simply lack the ability to imagine that industries they view favorably would, say, ruin the ecosystem.
Its a key function of how a "tribalist" mindset works, because it allows people to proactively forgive bad practices, as well as buy into false promises.
Sally is going to follow Bob, who promises everyone Beef for dinner every night.
Mike is pointing out that, at this rate, we'll eat all the cows, and then we'll have no beef ever again.
Sally lacks the ability to imagine life without beef, so Mike must just be an asshole trying to make Bob look bad. Bob would NEVER ruin their way of life, right? Bob is trying to enhance their way of life by making it beef every day!
Excellent video and art! Seriously, I saw the finished product and was amazed! The lines, colors, everything, simply amazing! You sure do have some real smart viewers!
I ship CoCo with Frollo because both are scary and terrifying villains.
I love your art video essays. Genuinely awesome to see them and hey Arnold definitely had its problems 😩😩😩
This is why I don’t like patriarchy. It’s funny how matriarchal societies aren’t a reverse patriarchal. A lot of them are similar to egalitarian societies. No seriously after doing research matriarchal societies do women as the lead, but there’s no oppression or anything like that.
1:01 GET BACK BY BRITNEY IN THE BG 🎶
What a dope video! 😮❤ I never knew there was a specific word for male-centered women, and it's awesome to see you using familiar fictional characters to demonstrate your point! 🎉
I love seeing your art!!! I always get excited when I realize we're gonna have a speedpaint in the video!
As a first time watcher of the channel (I was recommended by another youtuber and your videos looked great but I just never got around to checking a video out) I really liked the topic and you made many great points. I think I'd heard of the term coverture before but it was sparsely discussed so I hadn't thought about it as this distinct thing in a long time, even if I was aware of the general concept of "women were property/had no rights as their own person" as a historical reality.
Regardless, coverture is the perfect framing for this issue of man-centered women. After hearing you apply it to your examples of 2000s animation, I already wanted to think about creative/animated work I enjoy from this framework. Awesome job, I'll definitely be on the lookout for more of what you do!
Your videos are all so aesthetic as well as your clothing style!
I love seeing your art in your videos 📹
thank you, i love sharing my art with you all
Didnt Coco want to force a relationship because her job was withholding a promotion because she was single or am I mis remembering?
Nah, that promotion thing was true.
do you use reference photos? or imagination drawing?
I'm drawing all the time and something I've noticed is that my skills without an example are lacking. It's very disappointing to compare images and feel that I only have talent when I'm copying. Especially because I've always wanted to write my own stories. I mean, I'm fine and it's fine. Developing and working towards better skills is tiring and long hard work, but I've given up on shortcuts so I'm here for the ride.
Anyways, this is cool and I was curious.
"No man can heal your pain; you must do so on your own."- Ezio Auditore
P.S. Ezio Auditore while chaining Lucrezia Borgia to her curtains after first base and proceeding to steal a Da Vinci painting 😃
I found out from me.
And for that they are good cartoons, instead this gay shit we have to day
OoOoooOoooo the gays are coming ooOoooOooOoo
A lot of women (or in my case , afab, I'm non-binary) were told from childhood to only like men and care about men's personalities, not their their looks but they never tell them that they're entitled to their own personal preferences and men's happiness and mental health comes first before theirs. In my case and due to the culture I was raised in however , I thought I wanted to break that norm to date men who didn't fit the high standards of what I'm supposed to look for in a boyfriend (i•e : healthier, skinner, a jock or sport player, drives and work at 16 years old) because I thought none of that matters and was told these qualities will fade away in times, even though, who can really predict what will happen to them?- I had a toxic relationship with cishet men in past because they weren't my ideal type and aren't financially stable for that matter either and broke things off with all of them.
I've learned that I'm entitled to date men who fit exactly like my ideal type. And you can kind of see how these mindsets these girls were raised with effects them throughout their lifetime.
What you described reminded me of a manhwa/webtoon where the female protagonist at first settled for dating guys that weren't attractive or financially stable or tall (because it is all about what is inside and not what is on rhe outside) but it ended up getting her in toxic abusive relationships. Once she started demanding that her boyfriend has to be good-looking, tall, loyal, and financially stable, she ended up finding better-looking, richer, taller, and NICER guys to date that were loyal and faithful. [Don't remember the name of that webtoon. I think it was called romance 101, but I am not sure.] Even Otakus fall in love had the female protagonist not wanting to date Otaku guys because she said that Otakus are seen as losers (though she didn't say it but it is implied she doesn't date Otaku guys despite being an Otaku herself because a lot of Otaku guys are sexist and hate Otaku gals). The series could have guilted her into settling for her ugly Otaku male friend just because he is an otaku - just like how so many shounen and seinen series constantly sell the idea of lame ugly nasty Otaku guys able to convince attractive non-otaku gals to fall for them just because he isn't like their "chad" pretty boy exes. But no, instead, even Otaku fall in love made her friend an attractive financially stable tall guy who is actually nice (and is even willing to accept her otaku interests, unlike most otaku guys) and just happens to be an otaku and their relationship is based on more than just them being otakus.
@@medtle1 Omg, I never knew such stories like that will still get their happy endings and I'm proud to know that the author is breaking these kinds of stories than what we're so used to seeing. Every other media I've seen normalized and romanticize these types of relationships and the main lead will proceed to end up being called a**holes for having their own personal preferences just for not falling for a person who doesn't fit their type. I remember looking back at these stories and think "But I wouldn't date a man like that in real life, am I the a**hole for thinking this way?" In real life, this isn't bound to happen all the time, not everyone want to date an overweight and a unattractive person or someone who has no stable income and that is valid on their part, and I hate how society shames women in particular for having a type but no problem when men, like male Kpop idols for example expressed publicly what their ideal type is and that is enough info for the fans to understand that they're not going to end up with them but suddenly it different when women express it? It like they don't want women in general to be happy and honest with their life. Personalities isn't always going to save people at all and fix all relationships. In my online fandom experience, I've seen way more attractive Otaku women than I seen with Otaku men because they are exactly what you've described them and these women actually take care of themselves. These men don't even bother to care of themselves and should take the L atp.
@@nicatina unfortunately, stories like the ones I have mentioned are still rare but they are there, though mostly in media aimed at gals (and queer guys). And I think it has to do with more gals writing their own stories and more female-centric editors, producers, and executives recently.
@@medtle1 That can be why and I'm proud that female writers are changing things up and breaking those existing, overused tropes in their f/m stories. I don't ever trust male writers at all with how they write m/f love stories at all, especially the part where she ends up with those unattractive, overweight, and non financially stable man. Seems so delusional and personal projection coming from them. Not my kind of stories I want to read, and I'm certainly not the target demographic audience. 💀
@@nicatina Yep. Same here. Honestly, though they can be problematic as well, I am more willing to give queer and trans male writers a chance because generally, their female characters tend to be more realistic and likeable and respected (both in writing and in illustrations) than female characters from cis straight male writers.