Film Room: Analyzing Shane Waldron's Offensive Scheme | Chicago Bears
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- Chicago Bears have signed offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, lets look into his offensive philosophy .
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I stopped listening and watching when he started advocating for Caleb Williams, now I'm never click his videos again
It just makes sense. I'm sure when it happens you'll be happy.
What do you think now?
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Cope harder.
Your boyfriend is in Pittsburgh now,, go join him,, he misses you
I see Caleb going crazy in this offense. 💯💪🏾
So many negative comments yet look at what Waldron has done with Geno Smith and a banged up OL. The examples in the video clearly show WRs getting schemed open and unique play design/formation. Let’s keep an open mind and trust Poles along with the rest of the professionals to do their job and continue building toward success.
Dave Canales Was The Mastermind Behind Geno And Seattle Success Hence Why They Regressed When He Left… Other Than 1st Quarter Play Shane Waldron Is Ahh He Don’t Adjust Just Calls Screens And Runs On 3rd& Forever
@@flvsh_m3thanks for paying attention. The Man literally calls screen plays with 1 blocker and expects the wr to pick up 10+ yards. Not to mention most wr routes are out routes that are short. watching our offense last year was pain
@@flvsh_m3yup Caneles is already a HC. Shane is still good but I think Caneles was the mastermind
@@StewMain6 qb coaches don’t implement offenses. Not how that works.
Now this kind of offense is tricky for the defense to follow but not crazy hard for the offense to do- it just requires good timing and route running. Now that Fields is gone I could easily see CW running Waldron’s scheme well. I get a good feeling about the match.
Wow, you had it pegged and boy is it going to be fun watching that offense with Caleb at the helm. Great video man 👍
Really good breakdown of Waldron’s offense!
Bro you saying they could upgrade the Center position hell no they most definitely SHOULD upgrade the Center position that the worst spot on the OL. Every other spot is doable. You can maybe upgrade LT but I think the Guard could be in need of more upgrade than LT if you ask me
Yes, Cody’s gone, carter is a backup at best, and teven has injury issues. Nate Davis also wasn’t what we hoped he’d be. I could see poles taking two guards/centers and a swing tackle this draft
Done
I learned alot w this video. Thank you excellent analysis
What's funny about that play at 1:45 is that those same 49ers used that exact play in week 15 of the previous year against the Seahawks and it went for an easy TD to George Kittle. When I saw it used against the 49ers with the same result a year later I thought that was hilarious.
Great breakdown!! Love ur bears breakdown!! Again bears down 🐻⬇️
Caleb? Lmao
Hes too young and inexperienced to run this offense. Youd have to waste at least 2 seasons to develop him for this type of thinking/instincts.
Calen and fields are both trash...drake maye would run this offense to perfection
@@thatoneguy3284He’s already being coached in this system with QB Collective lol
Yes Caleb.
@@thatoneguy3284 you wanna pay Justine fields 100+ mill in 2 years?
Got Geno Smith to a pro bowl can't be that bad
Shane Waldron is LEGIT, he's going to get the Bears offense right
Well 🐻 have the best Blocking FB in Blasingame so I really hope he uses him, especially on Short yardage plays, Tosses. Places you really need a FB
Me too. I do not like how the fullback has all but been eliminated from the NFL
@The Football Scout, dont you think that Shane uses a variation of the GoGo offense with two RBs next to the QB, also with 2TEs and a RB next to the QB?
Remember Seattle used bigger OL. If Borom was a RG in Seattle 😳 He would be a monster. 💯 We kept our Oline coach who is more speed inside. I think 🤔 that's gonna actually help Waldron be even Greater 💯
Any Van Pelt play designs?
Play calling something we haven’t had with the Chicago Bears probably in 20 years so excited for this season and hopefully it is with Justin field is our quarterback
Whoopsie daisy
LOL JUSTIN FIELDS 🤣 TRASH
Errr...Martz, Turner, Crowton, ....
Would love one of these for the new pats OC Alex Van pelt.
The top 2 LTs will be gone by pick 9. Also, those 1st round picks could be bottom first rounders the way Cardinals got stuck with this year thinking the Texans would suck, and that trading their 3rd round pick in 23 would net a Top 5 pick in 24. It doent always work out.
Also, what happens if Fields doesnt develop and now you have pick 8 next year?
Don’t be so sure. Three QBs, three wrs, and brock bowers/edges in this draft all vying for top 10. Not to mention teams needing CB and every year there is usually a reach or two. One of these two tackles will likely be there
1st Over Pick 40mil+ With A 25mil Sign Bonus My Dude Byrce Young Makes 8 Mil A Year on His Rookie With 26 Mil Bonus
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That first play with the double fake screen was used by the Niners in last year's week 15 game against the Seahawks, ending in a Kittle touchdown. It was so satisfying to see Waldron make them taste their own medicine! But no, it was not that creative on Waldron's part. Gotta give them credit for executing the play with Parkinson instead of Kittle though!
I am reading through the comments:
I simply do not know what televisions some Fields fans are watching when they deem Justin as "the guy".
SIXTH-ROUND DRAFT PICK, PEOPLE!
As a Hawks fan I wouldnt say he runs a lot of pre snap motion.
The bears are trading fields for a center
That’s literally the missing piece for the o line
You have Braxton jones, Darnell wright,
Nate Davis, and tevin Jenkins.. polesknows what he is doing
I wanted estephan Avila last year as Hess a fucking beast for LA
@@tiredofbs9178bears are drafting Jpj and fields ain’t goin anywhere, bet on it.
Welp@@Isaacsbased
That 49ner game we stole that from Kyle playbook that ain’t his play u can go back and look Kyle Shanehan used it on us like earlier last szn
The Bears would not pay Justin until 2 more seasons...
I'm not sold on Waldon
Well you didn’t even spell his name right so maybe you need to research more
@@notorioustbg bro you're literally shane waldron's mom on a yt burner 🤦♂️ 2027 Caleb Williams Dark-Horse MVP?
We don't need you to be sold. Go back to class for spelling
I'm not sure how UDFA TE Brendan Bates is going to flourish in this offense. There were younger undrafted TEs with higher ceilings and better skill sets......definite head scratcher move by the Bears. I hope I'm wrong.
If resetting the " QB clock is a cheat code how many times in the last 10 years has that resulted in a Super Bowl Win??
I read somewhere that out of the last 10 Superbowls, 9 had at least one qb of the two teams on a rookie deal. So apparently, it is a huge help in getting there
I hope you’re ready for zero passes or routes between the numbers, 2nd long sideline fades, and 3rd and long draws and screens lol. Watched it for 3 years and wanted to tear my hair out. Also even if your O-line sucks he’ll still call 5-step drops on obvious passing downs. He’s a great person but his “scheme” is horrific or at least it was while he was here...
I really do wish you guys the best of luck tho maybe it will work in Chicago
I literally watched like 15 plays in this video that had the WR catch in between the hashes
Idk man I also watched every Seahawks game and he almost never throws or schemes routes for the middle of the field. Everything is long developing routes down the sideline. I don’t know the numbers off hand but I know I saw something like 70%+ of genos completions were to the sidelines last year…
The biggest issue it caused imo was horrific redzone offense numbers. When a D has the endline as an extra defender and just needs to cover the two corners of the end zone it’s SO easy to stop
In my opinion, build the OL draft MHJ and a Center. Add another WR in free agency. Otherwise you're putting CW in the same situation JF1is in
He sucks with tight ends.. 3 total TDS for out TEs Fant didn’t have one and he’s pretty good 😢
Fant got traded by broncos with no one to even replace him. Giving up on a guy that young for an unknown rookie tells you everything you need to know about fant
It will suck as usual.
Especially if they draft Williams they'll finish last in the division.
As a Seahawks fan Waldron isn’t awful but don’t expect too much.
Would you say bargain bin? half price is how the Bare Organization was built!
@@b.a.samuels I'd say bargin bin Zach Taylor who is already bargin bin Mcvay so... yikes
turned a nobody like Geno Smith into a pro bowler
@@holdwhatdoor7629 sure in 2022 he was a solid OC but in 2023 he crashed like crazy his play calls were so questionable like calling screen/run plays on 3rd and 12+ against good teams we didn't know how to score. also geno in 2022 was making crazy throws like the chargers, saints, lions games
@@holdwhatdoor7629geno is terrible too, credit Waldron for turning him into a good qb
This offensive scheme best fits fields
It’s a short pass game it doesn’t fit fields it fits Caleb
It fits drake maye actually not fields or caleb
Lmao it doesn’t fit fields at all
The bench best fits Fields
You spelled Caleb wrong.
Offensive? more like offensive.
What?
@tommy.... what don't you like?
This would've worked great for fields. Not so much williams. Guarantee williams isnt gonna fit waldon and get sacked 9 times first game.
THANK YOU!!! People don't realize that Mooney and Scott caught an average of 33% of their targets on 3rd down. Fields didn't have a full team to rely on. Fields would have flourished with this supporting cast and offense.
Caleb Williams struggled vs. Arizona and Oregon and Notre Dame. He hasn't yet proved that he can succeed in the NFL.
Better get that line fixed first , first play of this video the QB held that ball at least 5 seconds in the pocket. JF had a half a sec before he was hit or pressured.
If Waldren is successful here, we could see a tree start from him.
Hold your horses. Every CW fan thinks that resetting the QB position is the cheaper option. In reality if you take the draft capital it keeps cheap talent coming through the Bears organization which creates a cycle of more draft capital as you can trade valuable players for more draft capital prior to rookie contracts expiring. There is a priceless principle at work in this situation. If you take CW about 8 rookie contracts are going to come up in about 2 to 3 years and it will be more than the Bears have space for so they will have to replace players with sub par talent and pay 2 or 3 players they choose to keep. With a salary cap and the state of rookie contracts draft capital becomes priceless. If the Bears take CW they better make a Super Bowl run in the next 3 years and year 1 will likely be a wash. If you take the draft capital you have years of good talent and multiple chances to get the right formula. For that reason it doesn’t matter if JF is better than CW.
Although that's true, talent doesn't matter without a good QB. Fields may never develop and could be a bust. His issue is sometimes he doesn't see things in front of him and he can't play within a structure. Williams can do all of that.
@@SanjitT JF was the better college QB. He played better competition and played for a national championship. CW had 30 fumbles in 31 games. Also, it doesn’t even matter. If you take CW you have one chance to win it all. If you take the draft capital the Bears will start a cycle in which you keep young discounted talent coming through the organization which gives the Bears multiple chances for years to come. The CW pick is short sighted and is putting all your eggs in one basket. Besides CW has some character issues and if people truly want him to do well then he should stick with Kingsbury. However, no matter how much sense this makes the CW fans are too emotional over the situation to think clear about things.
It's gonna be CW so get ready
@@mihnic0504 You did all this typing for nothing lol
@@mihnic0504 no you would have to do a 5th year option around 20+ mill just to keep fields and like you said 8n rookie contracts + paying Justin's 5th year and eventually a franchised deal which would somthing similar to daniel jones... hell no on top of that you have to pay teven and then DJ the following year after that. You make it sound simple but a rookie contract is better than eventually paying fields Daniel Jones money + pay for everything else we got and btw don't mention fumbles justin fumbles everytime the game is on the line, against the lions, vikings, packers i could go on but enjoy the season
@7:18
"I think the Bears have a really-really-really great offensive line"....
Check yourself:
I love your video presentation and your breakdowns of plays-but the Bears offensive line is very very very mediocre at best: #20-#25 in the league, depending on whose rating, and whether only runs versus only passes, or overall.
Draft Caleb? You just lost me bro.
Firstly, if you keep JF1 and trade #1 pick, you get 1st in ‘24, 1st in ‘25, plus probably a 2cd in ‘24 and ‘25. Draft MHJ, and the best LT with the 9th pick, then you can draft 3 other 1st and 2cd round picks this year and next year. You will then have at least 4-5 top draft picks on rookie deals for the next 4 years, and you can watch JF1, the 1 or 2 most athletically gifted QB in the NFL become an ABSOLUTE STAR and put the Bears in playoff contention starting next year.
You would only have to pay JF1 for 5th year option to keep him thru 2025. If he doesn’t work out next year…you can draft a great QB in 2025 w 1st round pick from trading away #1 pick this year…probably top 5 pick and release/cut JF1. “resetting the QB contract scale” is overrated.
JF1 has never had the skilled weapons or OL to show his true potential; check the OSU tape. Remember the Clemson game? JF1 threw 6 TD passes w broken ribs! Caleb could not have done that!! Btw…put Caleb on the Bears the last 3 yrs, and he is a bust. JF1 has shown his potential greatness, toughness, and leadership by never complaining!! Go back to the CLE game w Nagy when JF1 was hit or sacked 15 times…no complaints. Caleb would’ve been carted off the field. Plus…ATL game in ‘23…that 1st TD pass in the snow to DJ2 was an ABSOLUTE DIME!! Does Caleb make that throw in the snow???
I do agree with giving Fields more weapons. But what if it doesn't work. Always keep that in mind. There's a chance that JF1 isn't a star and is a bustm
100%FACTS💯💯💯💯💯 We are keeping Justin......End of Discussion.....
In every way you look at Justin Fields makes sense in the short term and long term.
@@davidbiggs8753😂😂😂😂
@@davidbiggs8753you were saying?
Maybe we’ll finally see the end of the fullback position. The Bears will be more diverse and less predictable with multiple tight end sets, rather than an offensively limited player like a fullback is. ❤Matt Suhey, but those days are over. We really need to see Top 5 offensive line play, and the Super Bowl will come sooner than later! BEAR DOWN SUPER BOWL BOUND
Can you break down Caleb Williams? He looks like a bust to me.
JF1 is QB1
Man that didn't age well
Qb2… let’s ride 😂😂😂
resetting the rookie contract doesnt matter if Williams ends up being garbage which he will be
Williams is going to be really good.
watch tape, I'll forever love Justin but this Caleb guy is something else.
Thr Financial savings are not 40 years to $4 million... Caleb, as the 1st pick will sign a contract worth around $7m in year 1. Thats $1-2 million more than what Fields will make next year and the Bears can franchise fields the year after for $20-22m. Get your facts straight.
You have to pay the 5th year QB option to Fields next year which is 20+ mil a year lol. Also, why will you want to franchise tag your QB after the 5th year? Fields fans are just grasping at straws at this point
One to two million dollars over QB salary is pointless.
Justin had three years to show his worth. He was not helped greatly by the Bears's organization, but he did not help himself enough either.
I’m glad the Chicano bears will be good lol every Time he mispronounces chicago
I think you’re wrong about resetting the quarterback pay scale that is only been a subject or term that is just come up in the last 3 or 4 years, so it’s not proven fact to do that, and then on top of it, lose a good quarterback that’s more than capable of winning a Super Bowl with his team and if you look at it, he’s probably had subpar offensive coaching staff, in all the league please comment back to me and let me know what you really think what I said
😂😂😂😂 Watching this scheme the fact they thinks we trading Fields you gotta be a damn idiot Shane is about to use Fields speed to the outside Fields would dominate in a zone Read offense this why Getsy was even hired they seen this even 49ers knew that’s why their drafts boards showed Fields first they thought Trey Lance was faster and more Athletic now why in the hell would we draft a less athletic player? I can see us Drafting the actual Heisman Jayden Daniels but not Caleb Y’all about to be pissed come back and use this post for tissue 😂
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Waiting....you wanna think about Dat again ?
Disagree. We’ve run this by “salary cap” long enough. Need continuity. Stronger line and better WRs. With that. Fields get 4K
Calab would be a down year. What you think a rookie qb gonna do? Kaleb 😂😂😂😂😂. Jokes 😊😂😂
Not funny anymore
You can cry, but you may not sit on your mama lap and cry. The media wants a wimp that they can manipulate. We are good. We don’t need a back up. Stop disrespecting Tyson. Caleb? We need a center. We need an all world, best player in the draft receiver or a haul of draft picks. We are doing the multiple Super Bowl thing. Chill. You are worried about getting a discount at QB? Lmao! We are getting so many picks, we don’t have to got to free agency. We are growing our own talent. Chill
Lmao
Yeah, yet another OC with middle of the pact stats. This is a classic Bears move. I mean who would want an actually successful OC
dude just stop, thinking waldron wont help us improve is actually mental
Seahawks fan here. The worry with Waldron was never that he doesn't have a punch, it's that he has no counter punch. His opening scripts were very effective all year long and then after that's it's been simply anemic. He's been regularly out-coached (Rams and 9ers twice, Ravens, Steelers). Overall his work was largely fine - sometimes exciting, oftentimes frustrating to watch.
One of the biggest upsides mentioned in this vid is "he can get guys open", which if you can't do that, what *are* you doing?
You really thought they going bring in top tier OC who was getting HC jobs looks but turn out 2 of the 3 guys pick to stay on their current team. They did pretty good job when few of the other guys they interviewed got hired as OC for other teams.
@@iuravi this is not a glowing report on Waldron
@@iuravi and he's had several seasons of OC playcalling experience now. Getsy had no playcalling experience. People can learn and grow.
Yeah, fitting some OC's system instead of working with the talents the athlete has. Been a Bear mistake for years. Caleb doesnt want to play for the Bears, I don't blame him. The mentality is top down thinking. You gotta treat this guy like a football artist. Plus pay him. 2 things the Bare Organization is not going to do. Hello Drake Maye or Tribisky's Revenge,
This guy lost me when he said the Bears have a pretty good OL ! Oline is poor ....OLine coach is terrible ! How Morgan survived the Cull is shocking.
They're OL is good. Problem is Fields can't make the reads and get the ball out quick and consistently. Hence the OL looks worse than it is.
The OL that gave up the least amount of sacks last year? The Dolphins. It's all about the QB
A 1st Over Pick Not Gettin No 4 Million
CW and JF are the same style.
Caleb is a better processor and reads coverage a lot better.
They're nowhere near the same player.
Also, Fields has had 3 years..we are still unsure.
CJ Stroud and Justin Herbert showed us in 1 year that they're legit players. There's always a chance Fields is an NFL Bust.
Dear Bears fans:
If you like an offense with no quick/easy reads in the middle of the field, no pocket movement to help out a mediocre oline, garbage tier situational playcalling (unblocked bubble screens on 3&7 with your 3rd string receiver) and a qb holding the ball way too long and getting sacked, then you'll love the Shane Waldron offense! From what I've heard, those are exactly the things that lost Luke Getsy (and presumably justin fields) the job, so have fun ruining another athletic "high-upside" qb who couldn't find an open receiver if they were sitting on his lap!
Sour grapes
@@notorioustbg Sour grapes are more colorful than Waldron's 4 year old Great Value "Mcvay-ian" system. DK metcalf eat those sour grapes like Beast Mode's Skittles and bout to go for 1500 in a Grubb offense that actually schemes up plays to get the most out of his best players and elevate the offense. Waldron bout to turn DJ moore into a streak running decoy and turn Jesper Horstead (or whoever the hell the Bears' 3rd TE is these days) into a featured weapon. Not to mention having to deal with whatever lightskin athletic 1 read passing-back GM Ryan -Pace- Poles picks to lead da beers in his final season of an embarrasing tenure as a fantasyfootball-tier gm
@@CZcams_Sucks_Eggs keep hating loser
@@CZcams_Sucks_Eggsjeezs you sound so ignorant
Justin Fields is the quarterback. Period. Caleb can go home to Washington.
Fields just got traded brother