Football violence: Cocaine and kids - the new face of hooliganism | Times Reports
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2022
- Last weekend in Nottingham will be remembered for the shocking moment a Leicester City supporter ran onto the pitch and assaulted Nottingham Forest players celebrating their third goal. Cameron Toner, 19, has been charged with “three counts of common assault and going onto a playing area at a football match” and is due to appear at Nottingham Magistrates’ Court on February 24.
But for officers on duty in Nottingham, it was only one of many football-related incidents across another weekend that shamed the national game. Times Sport's Matt Lawton reports on the new face of hooliganism threatening the game.
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Moaning because 15 year olds are going to an away day to possibly have the best day of there life and to support there local club
and being antisocial bell-ends. You missed that part.
@@SunakStarmerisacunt not anti social if hanging with hundreds of others with similar people who have the same interests
@@crazytanks2001 Even Thousands 😂
@@SunakStarmerisacunt what a stupid thing too say 🤣🤣
'Best day of THEIR life and to support THEIR local club'. It's 'THEIR' . Getting THERE ThEY'RE THEIR right isn't rocket science. A child of reasonable intelligence should get this easily.
“Notts county get a free kick in added time and announce there intention’s to storm on the pitch” meanwhile its footage of Grimsby fans this shows how poor this article of journalism is
I wish had got an injury time free kick and scored. Crap journalist can’t even get this right
Next time a massive crowd are coming to London for a big match I'm going to get on the same train so I can pick up all the Charlie they throw away
@@michaelharrison3602 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I was there and the disabled fans weren’t terrified and none were injured what’s the point in lying to make football fans look bad
I know a 64 year old woman who takes her grandson to every home game at Millwall without ever being terrified or worrying about their safety she enjoys the insults and banter among the opposing supporters but never sees any real violence. Most of which happens away from the ground and is usually between groups of youths both looking for a tear up and not bothering anyone else
Exactly. There’s no need to lie to make them look bad when their actions speak for themselves.
Has the ex daily mirror editor Piers Morgan have something to do with this?
while he is lying English football fans don't need help to look bad. Even the nonviolent ones are just annoying......... with all the chanting and crappy sportsman ship, booing national anthems, bullying kids the list goes on and on i probably would actually like netball for boys sorry i mean football if wasn't for the fans. oh and racism..........YEAH FOOTBALL
@@billdoor5025 netball for boy's!!!Keep it to yourself about some of your fantasizing
I'm a 55 year old Stoke fan, and I must say , in the past I have been very naughty, and caught up in mither. Funnily enough in 1990, at Grimsby was one. I'm not proud of myself or some of my actions, but seriously, this half baked journalistic attempt misses the mark. There's Youth Firms at virtually every club, and yes, some of them are 14-15. But I can't recall seeing them whacking coke up their nose. Cocaine is a problem across the country , and trying to give the impression that 14-15 year olds at football are coked up is ridiculous and , dare I say , inaccurate .
It’s not inaccurate mate unfortunately, they are using gear. I see it loads these days! They’re getting into it a lot younger.
@@j.e.b9988 absolutely nothing to do with football fans though, everyone’s on it these days male and female
Haha naughty naughty 🤪🤪
Back in the 70's there were loads of lads of 13,14 and 15 going to the football and already getting involved in the fighting with "opposition" of the same age,it's not new and if anything it was unusual for older blokes to get involved...except Millwall of course. I was brought up in South London and you'd get mobs from different schools arranging mass brawls,most of us were used to violence from teachers and at home where no-one called social services if your Dad gave you a clump or a Teacher slapped you round the back of the head. Look at old videos on CZcams of Millwall's F Troop and West Ham's original TCF,bunch of kids mostly.
I'm 72 and disabled I go to every Millwall home game usually with my daughter and grandson never been terrified. A bit of banter and bad language is about as bad as it gets
I am furious that footage of me has been included in this video. I was part of the GTFC travelling support. I'm in my mid 40's, this is the 1st town game I've been to in many years, but was dragged along by friends trying to help me through my mental illness issues. I saw no hint of drugs, no hint of violence, and to basically be labelled as guilty by association by lacklustre, uninventive and frankly juvenile journalism is frankly infuriating.
For the record, I, and the LARGE amount of town fans around me that went from train, to pub, to ground and them home had an amazing, fun, and incident free day out. But I guess there's no sensationalism in that so you don't want to know. Amateurs.
Keep your head up mate. This journo is a scum bag.
Typical journalism
They never show the good . Always the bad . Yourself and many like know its only a minority.
Drama queen alert !!!!
All the media is the same brother.
All rats. Maybe they should spend some time talking to us instead of saying we’re evil and racist because of our skin. When the trouble starts these same people won’t be asking help from the immigrants no they will ask help from us to sort it out. They always do. Hypocritical scum the media and the government brothers.
Sounds more like they are making excuses as to why they must introduce a police state. Some of the fans arrived five hours before the game says the appalled narrator.
Well said
Good they were sensible and could get to the game on time and filter in dribs and drabs and avoid being framed by the Police in a Hillsboro situation.
Its not violence. Its posturing and adolescent hooliganism, they get very scared in genuinely violent situations, hence their need for police escorts.
They don’t want a police escort, it’s just to give the filth something to do whilst they’re not helping to cover up the murder of young women. So many coppers are just inadequate men who need to be told what to do by their betters.
Exactly mate would not last 5 mins in old days lol
Fantastic support for a non league club to take 2500 supporters away .
There was more than 30 million fans attending games last season and 800 were arrested.
The police should be applauding the good behaviour of English fans
that's only 800 they could catch.
I think alcohol has more to do with it than drugs . If they was all soba and sniffing coke they would probably be more paranoid than violent .
That's how it started pal. Somebody spilled a drink and they all started with each other because they were asking if you looked at his pint.
You clearly have never tried cocaine, you muppet!
notts couny secrure a free kick in the last minute, ermmm i dont think so it was grimsby, journalist are more bothered about lying than actually doing research
Good spot, this was in error
Chant ... On the pitch if Grimsby score. The police say the fans threaten to storm the pitch. Complete idiots
@@TheTimes the whole video was an error! Very disappointing to see that your using footage of kids in a video associated with drugs and violence! Rather than showing ACTUAL violence (until the end but that was not a Grimsby fan, that was from Sunday) you decided to go with the story of a big away day. I don’t personally condone the drugs but apart from that I saw no trouble all day! Just two sets of fans having banter!
@@TheTimes If you can't get that right - what else did you get wrong?
@@TheTimes you will just call us all gammon though won’t you?
“What else ya gana do on ur Saturday”
Watch rugby of course. Better game than this garbage
@@crazyforcoffee5950 your fans are awful
Clean the car and watch reruns of Blankety Blank.that will get your pulse racing
Only uneducated trash could come up with a question like that.
What's the problem this is all part of growing up going to football with the lads is a right of passage for teenage and 20 somethings seeing the country learning to drink and learning to look out for each other. There are kids killing each other over postcodes in our major cities but police want to stop groups of young lads going on a day out and occasionally acting antisocially. What a soft country we have become.
Too right mate all the do gooders
It's all part of growing up in the uk. To be
independent in a way. We have gone soft. Being Scottish drinking cans of tenners on a train was a rite of passage. The state and the police have become nanny state enforcers. The British generally behave / oppressed during the week being slaves to employers....and let their hair down on weekends.
@@graduke1 couldn't agree more chap. Weekend warriors 😁
So smashing up a train breaking bottles pissing on seats is ok ?
@@MacS34 like youve never done wrong lol.
Nothing to do with the social situation and the disenfranchisement from society the same as last time then!!!!!
I'll just state that I'm 67 now but these were the happiest days of my life.
Police and intelligence in the same sentence makes me chuckle
Defo. The Police in England are not fit for purpose.
Lying to make football fans look bad
while he is lying English football fans don't need help to look bad. Even the nonviolent ones are just annoying......... with all the chanting and crappy sportsman ship, booing national anthems, bullying kids the list goes on and on i probably would actually like netball for boys sorry i mean football if wasn't for the fans. oh and racism..........YEAH FOOTBALL
Score in the last minute and u can’t celebrate ?
Al that shouting and singing has terrified me from ever going to a match again. 😄😄😄
it is quite annoying
What’s wrong with flares ? Our atmosphere is boring here compared to Italy !
This is horrendous , no not the behaviour of the fans but the inept journalism this country now has to tolerate. There are so many inaccuracies in this its liable tbf The Times have lowered themselves to the rag top brigad. I was at this match and on the train that was apparently taken out of commission, yes it was at Leicester its final destination, and it was Grimsby who got the last minute free kick and terrorised the wheelchair bound supporters.
Trump was right about fake news, it’s everywhere
Look at england cricket team they are actually professional and fans are also gentle
@@ahmedfaiyazazad8415 footballs working class it’s a constant celebration and there’s more passion for it
At least these youths aint stabbing each other.
Making all football fans look awful. Shame on you
Well most of the crowd at football games are working class scumbags
They were celebrating a goal for crying out loud! What do they expect a libriarianship clientele! No more mess than when i used to clean up after a cinema performance during half term! Typical moral panic as we all know real hooliganism in England ended with Acid house in the late 80s.
I expect polite applause and shouts of "jolly good shot sir"
You journalists and police will NEVER understand the passion that football fans have
Exactly rite .
Totally agree
Agree
Tribe go me Tarzan
To be honest if I lived in Grimsby I'd be happy to get away for a day 😂
The Karen Times
This isn't nothing new though. This has been going on since the 60s. Football hooligans took off big in the late 70s and by the 80s it was well established that Britain had a 2nd sport linked with football. Good old fashioned fighting
The problem is that the current delinquent generation are the most cowardly this country has ever produced. Pathetic individuals who can't fight the old fashioned way. Little groups of vermin with sneaky weapons. Embarrassed to be British nowadays. The laughing stock of the world.
Now the Eastern parts of Europe are the champions of it and even other European countries that wouldn’t have tried before have over taken. This is what makes this pathetic dishonest far fetched journalism (if you can call it that) so infuriating. The spineless traitorous cowards creating this would be the type to make a hit piece on innocent English fans who had been attacked within an inch of their life’s by highly organised battle hardened hooligans from Eastern Europe or South America.
Its been going on since the 30's it just wasn't newsworthy
The 80s were mental, today is calm.
I think the seventies was worse many more running battles involving hundreds of fans and the police hadn't worked out what to do back then.Also hooligans were younger in the seventies many were only 14, 15 or 16 and didn't care about getting knicked by the mid eighties most hooligans had become more careful and the police were dealing with it better with cc tv etc
@@davidmcclements436 the 70's were far worse than the 80's. It was completely out of control. A bloody good laugh I've had a few good kickings gave up at 20 it was hurting too much.
What's wrong with turning up five hours early for a day out, to make a day of it as it were? My god, journalism in the UK is so poor these days, who writes these voice-overs, they're shockingly bad?!
Been away with blues 60+ and the police are so heavy handing it’s actually ridiculous how much they must spend on football when they could be out actually finding general criminals!
Exactly
Costs of policing football matches with high level risk classifications can be surprisingly costly, and as far as I understand it, the costs of policing football matches falls to the local authorities, meaning the tax paying residents of the cities in question are footing the huge bills for these gobshite kids to shout at other gobshite kids for 2 hours.
Its appalling really.
Quick to blame the drugs - I’m almost entirely sure this type of behaviour would be apparent without it as it has for decades..
NO PYRO NO PARTY 🧨
They’re treating these lads like terrorists. They’re just lads watching the footy and having a scrap
They're from Grimsby? Why blame cocaine then
Nothing new about cocaine and football
As someone who goes to the football week in week out i have never seen a person under the influence of class a drugs
So the only violence you could actually show was from entirely different games that didn't involve grimsby fans? And FYI, it was town that got that last minute goal. Can't even get that right and you call yourself a journalist? Editor should be embarrassed too.
There’s loads of footage every week on Twitter if you look for it
And this is the extent of modern journalism?
The media love reporting on football violence but other societal issues they leave well alone...
Yes like grooming gangs
I remember ecstasy and acid house stopped football hooliganism in the late 80s.
Shame cunts started lacing the pills with lethal stuff. Now everyone’s scared to be on it again
You got that right Ecstasy ain't no crime we're feeling fine!!! Everton fc state club and quadrant Park
Give every football fan a gary next weekend. Problem solved
I’m American and I must say the British fascinate me.
This has been going on for years, are they just highlighting this now?? 😂
“Trashed a train” what utter exaggerated crap. They left some bottles & cans. While I am not condoning them doing so, it seems a ridiculous overreaction. Couldn’t see any evidence of much trouble
I used to work as a cleaner on the railways and I'd see more rubbish and damage on the daily commuter trains
War against the working class
Men want to fight. Let them. It doesn't have to be near the ground.
What do you expect? Most of these working class kids have zero prospects. See how many young men are going onto female centric higher education. We are leaving young men particularly working class behind. This is the result.
Very very true
Bullshit the youth of today are getting lazier
Rather be at home smoking weed and on their PlayStation
Instead of working
Stop trying to turn all this into a Science. Young guys like to get out off their nuts and have a laugh with their mates
@@michaelharrison3602 He seems right though. In reallity this fighting for something as football is a waste of time. Why don't they go in a fight sport..like kickbox. You can fight all you want. Or do street fight. But this hooligan fight isnt actually real fight and are drunks throwings fists. When they are 30 they will continue this pointless fights. But yea...just my opinion though. Or your better of beding on which hooligan party is gone win. Some money can be made with it perhaps.
You're right to a certain degree
Where was the disorder? Just passion on display there. Something over nothing.
Henry burton the absolute weapon
I'm a football fan and I've never tried cocaine or any other illicit class a drug for that matter. I have also never witnessed any football fans using drugs.
When I used cocaine the last thing I wanted to do was fight someone. What a load of malarkey.
Thousands of fans and all this so called trouble.. all they could find was a few baggys, empty beer cans and 1 guy getting pushed by a copper.. yeah what a war zone football games are zzz
They’d find more cocaine in any pub at any town in the country, it’s not just football fans on that stuff
wouldnt lasted a second back in the 80,s
Is right lad these fools would have been easy meat at the likes of Everton, West ham boro etc
03:26
Is that an East Asian football hooligan? That's a first. 😂
I got involved first at 15, first time I was nicked at 14. Its really time of your life when you get involved. 👹🏴
They don't want to fight thesedays, just to posture and throw chairs
England 🇬🇧 Are Back ? - To the Grimsby Supporter who bought me a cider in a Norwich pub - My Best wishes for Your Clubs Success mate 👍 .
Cocaine on the membrane! Cocaine on the membrane!
Treble the ticket prices, try to keep the young thugs out of games.
County singing "if we score were on the pitch" follow it up if you chant it
it was grimsby (the journalist is a fool) and we all tried to get on the pitch but security was too good
Now Grimsby in league 2, imagine this at places like Doncaster away
Seemed pretty mundane
See what happens when the law is weak. No other country would tolerate this nonsense. The condition of the trains is shocking and they and their football club should get the bill for it. No wonder i hate carrying supporters on my bus.
Glad to see this video has been treated with the contempt it deserves 👏🏻
If we’re all honest, away days are just that, a reason to go away and get pissed supporting your team.
Of course some will be on the gear, it’s nowt to do with football it’s just a way of life for them they’d be on it any way.
Lol they're 30 years too late. Embarrassing
they are just enjoy himselfes at a football game.
Oh no! Does this mean i will not be able to watch this on Match of the Day again?
It's all Gary Lineker's fault.
tasers and bear spray should calm things down
3:27 what's the Chinese kid gonna do 😂😂😂
British society is rotting...
Compulsory pills as you enter the stadium. Huggs and love like the early 2000
Piss on the seats, litter everywhere and the train taken out of service, and people are still very upset at the reporting,.
“The comment 18 seconds in is a joke lol ofcourse cocaine helps fuels the hooliganism,like ma girlfriend just ses “they’re hardly gonna drink a cup of tea or coffee before a good tear up!” 🤣🤣🤣
Bring back raves then !
From a middle-class perspective; football helps to keep these people in line. Let them let off a bit of steam.
I was thinking that. If they feel their working class sport is being targeted it may all get a bit hairy.
Good lads
4:09 it was my mates brothers mate he went my school. He got locked up for 4 months 😂
As an American, I can say I'm sorta glad we don't have as much of this violence (unless we're talking about philadelphia fans). However, our sports scene seems less fun. And that it's less dangerous is part of the reason it's less fun. That might be a young-male-perspective, but it's the perspective I have, good or bad.
Budgie smuggler
@@mongo4511 I smuggled a budgie last night. It was wonderful.
just start throwing things its mostly what our hooligans do dont forget to run away if it looks like you are evenly matched or outnumbered maybe gang up on a guy with 8 of your pals and cut the guy with a box cutter (we call them Stanley knives)and there you go you are now as hard as English hooligans. you gave us gangster rap to f**k up society consider this our gift so that you can f**k up yours even more...........Enjoy
@@GenghisCohen257 you a disc world fan? i am assuming due to the name
@@billdoor5025 No i'm named after a chinese restaurant in los angeles. Disc world?
Disgusting mess on the train. Shameful behaviour by the fans. And no it is not a police state when the police enforce the laws of a civil society.
Dafty
UTFM
If two groups of football hooligans want to fight each other let them. If they interfere with innocent people nick them is that so difficult?
come on forest❤️
you reds lol
The last time I saw violence at a football game was in France by the police
Are you a kopite? Murdering red bastards justice for the heysel 39 u.t.f.t.1878 💙
That's why I hate football
Not again!
I was going to games in the 70's!!
ur just lying to make football fans to look bad im a forest fan 4l and im 13 and i go to every game and i never feel in danger or in threat ever
Without the drugs you would not hear a murmur out of the new breed.all clubs have them
Journalism at its finest 😂😂
I start going football at 12 I was fighting and drinking and taken drugs got out at 17
Disgusting.
So stop them leaving the train platform until they have cleaned the train, by which time they have sobered up? It's so simple. Make a mess, you clean it up yourself.
Bring back national service
What a load of crap... hooliganism during the Euros..hardly.
I went to football when stabbings were every weekend,hooligans would take darts into the ground to throw at the opposition.
Mate got razored all down his arm just for being there.
They are not "mis using " Class A drugs....................made me laugh
Course not that's what they're for
Shouldnt have locked the country down for all that time then , young or not a lot of these lads / young adults have lost time theyl never get back with their mates etc and that only causes frustration and anger.
Happy days wish i was 20 again
It would be more effective to take the police away and just have 10 Russian hooligans as security for a match.
Russian hooligans would sort this trash out. Look how they had them running in France.
Their all busy in the Ukraine
@@williambeck1574 going into the meat grinder
Increase of poverty
Was that lady drinking a budwiser tall boy? 🤔 😄😄😄😄💪🏾
Nonsense, absolutely completely irresponsible journalism
This is probably one of the worst pieces of journalism i have seen. Non event.