That is awesome Keith... All those antiques and vintages needs a final touch after refinishing/repainting is pinstripes... Thanks, I am impressed with the demo...
That is a fine little tool. I've been wanting one for a long time. Some day when I finish a project that's worthy of pinstripes I'll break down and buy one.
Back in the 70s I was given one of those but my tool box at work were I had it was stolen so I never got to even try to use it. But now that I see how easy it is to use I may buy a new one.
Keith, I do like the odds and ends because you show some very interesting and unusual tools which I find enjoyable to watch. Your youtubs are very well done and easy to watch. I started with the machining to increase my knowledge of that work and found museum segments of great interest. Keep it up, you are a pleasure to listen to and pass along a lot of knowledge in many different types of work. I have an interest in many different things and enjoy your enthusiasm and variety. Fred
Pretty cool demo! Nothing like real world experience. I dont think most machinists are artistically inclined. The only exception I can think of is Keith Fenner. A truly multi talented man.
I ran manual mills and lathes and other various machines like jig and surface grinders. I never did get into the the cnc software like cad or whatever is being used now. I could obviously set up, adjust and keep a cnc running, I just never did the programming. I prefer to feel the tool speed and feed speed and the pull/resistance on climb or conventional cuts. I’m artistic. And I LOVE manual machining. I look at them both very similarly. I think they are one in the same. I do know what you mean, but I feel like machining is art.
Hi Keith, Mastering the pinstriping art, is like mastering the TIG part in the art of welding, getting good at it is, practice on and on.... You'll get good at it "AFTER" your first safe... Don't get discouraged the second safe will be better .... lol Waiting to see the results, Pierre
Looks good, Keith. I can hardy wait to see you stripe the safe. I know you'll do a first-rate job, just like you always do. A suggestion: If you want to pinstripe a curve, try using a cylinder (like a paint can) as a guide. That might work.
Keith, after watching you freehand that tool, and doing better than I ever could, I'm thinking that someday when I have room to build a gantry router I should get one of those, rig it like a drag knife, and let the computer do the drawing! Should work well once the offsets are worked out for turns. -- Mike
Thanks ‘Keith’ as always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~ Beugler pinstriping kit. That is something I could use. Should have put a link below.
Looks great for a first test run! I can't wait to see it in action on the safe. If you do decide to do some curves it seems like it would be easier to keep things where you want them if you lightly draw the design on in pencil first.
1 shot will wipe easy and neatly with isopropyl alcohol, just paint over the ends and wipe it with a clean cloth while its wet, Keith. 1 shot is nice to work with. thanks for the look at the tool though!
Looks like fun Keith, I can just see after you get your safe done next will be a few machines and or you wife's car and your truck, heck maybe even a new Carrier. Who knows? a tip I learned from a sign painter, keep a rag and paint thinner handy for the rare Bozo moment than may happen. oh, and drawing your idea out with pencil helps too, oh the thinner cleans off pencil marks too. keep having fun and thanks for sharing!
Some "tips" i'd like to share. -It's best to stick with a hard surface. If you have scrap plexiglass, it's right about perfect because it's not metal hard but it's not paper soft either. It's almost paint close. You can also sand the plexiglass back to retry. -A good way to put paint in the container (i use it for my small air brush) is to get one of those huge syringes that have big, 2 mm needles (google this for the amazon link "Stainless Steel Luer Lock Dispensing Needle Tip"). They are perfect for this application.
***** For the folks who don't have ready access to syringes, there are bigger droppers used for baby medicines and formula - called spoon droppers, and they hold 5 ml = 1 tsp I use them for mixing paints for airbrushing, and for pipetting up rubbing alcohol to thin the acrylics Or, one can buy the industrial syringes online... Cheers, Eric
Hi Keith When pouring out of gallon can you get a cleaner pour if you tilt the spout towards the far edge of can instead of towards the closer edges or corner. Like others I propose a machinist solution to keep the wheel perpendicular to surface and act as edge guide. A larger diameter rod having two 90* bends with the free legs being of equal length from bend, essentially a square "U". Make rod length between bends such that you can easily adjust to follow straightedge. Since the stock guides are so thin it is more practical to use larger diameter rods. Fab a clamp like on the Beugler to hold the larger rod diameter and that attaches to the Beugler clamp. When using set the offset to straightedge so comfortable and rotate the two free ends down to bear on surface. This will keep the wheel perpendicular and allow for easy following of edge. Also makes a good video of fab.
Excellent video! It's always great to see you step out of your wheelhouse, Keith. It inspires me to try new things, even if I have failed (often miserably) on previous attempts.
Keith, yes paper is easier than a hard surface. Best practice on a hard painted surface like you will be pinstriping on. I have one of these Beuglers and they make it look easier than it is to use. Practice practice practice, just like you would need to do with a brush. The wheels will grip onto paper better than a hard surface that has a tendency to slide around on you. In fact I think the best practice would be on glass as that would be the slickest surface and once you could master glass everything else would be a piece of cake.
I just won the eBay bidding on this same BEUGLAR kit. I decided to replace my first Beugler that I bought with my first paycheque in 1961 at Sears. . The cast zinc head had deteriorated and turned to powder. My friend joked, " They don't make them like they used to." I have used Rustoleum and it is every bit as good as One Touch, for me.
Thank you for yet another good video! Your content is always of interest. There is one thing that it would be nice if you improved on though. Please try to find a way to eliminate the breathing sounds. In my experience it's often just a matter of moving the mic a little bit. Keep up the good work! And keep on breathing :-)
So Keith . . . how long before we see signs on your tool boxes with your name in nice cursive lettering? :-) That's a pretty nifty gadget to be sure! Thanks for sharing. Before you know it, you will be posting a pin striping tutorial! Thanks again! Have a good one! Dave
I've used one of these quite a bit on horse trailers. You can use magnets (cutting torch) of course but don't overlook a few feet of flat 10-3 or 8-2 wire bent to your curve and clamped or secured with neodymium magnets.
Those lines looked pretty straight Keith. Im curious as to how crisp the edges of the lines are up close. From the pov of the camera it looked pretty good. I agree with others that practicing on a hard painted surface will be the best practice.
I'm with ya on the painting...can't draw a straight line either. ;-) A really good freehand painter I know used to draw everything in pencil beforehand then break out the brushes. Seemed to work for him.... ;-) Colin
Hallo Keith It looks nice the Pinstriping tool. why do you not make a holder for the Pinstriping tool, like a Holder for a cutting torch to keep the Pinstriping tool straight. with kind regards Peter
Now never heard of it called steel wool I almost spit my coffee laughing. I know you will show us the safe when done. At a machine shop I was at ,on the Mazak 24 .The were cutting spools from hollow stock. In other words cutting 12 inch od down in the middle to make flanges on each end. for high pressure in the oil field. So they were as long as a Mazak 24 is say 12 feet? He was FOR DAYS taking 300 deep cuts full length,slow rpm, coolant steaming,crisply rolling chips,sitting on the bench watching for days. Insert testing also. Mounds of chips. For days!!!
Hi there, do you have to empty and clean the tool after every time you use it? Or will it just dry up over night? Great video tho - only one on youtube that shows how to load it up and clean, so thanks!
How long before you mount that for use on the lathe and milling machine. Just lower it to the work and feed the table across it for perfect lines. I want to see all the pulleys for the Vance pinstriped when you are done..
With the tool having a way to hold a edging accessory you could probably come up with a machinist version that would keep the tool parallel to the surface and a lot less likely to wonder offline pretty easily. Maybe a slot just in a piece of aluminum that would slide along a rule so you couldn't drift either direction. Just a thought from a guy with no art talent too.
Something along the line of a clamp an adjustable fence is what I was thinking. That way, since he was going to outline around the edges of flat surfaces anyway, the fence could just ride around the edge of the piece. I think it would be pretty easy with Keith's fabrication skills.
First run test was great! You'll get better with time, just practice and more practice! I think you should try some pinstriping with a brush, you might be surprised. ....13
Graham Burgess I was able to purchase a magnetic strip from the guys who make this product that has a nice little groove down it to help guide the tool. It works like a charm!
Your finger did a good job, but I'm wondering if the factory guide would work better if you used your other hand to press it against the side of the workpiece as you go, and focus more on that and less on the paint wheel? I've had similar issues with guides on cutting torches not staying against the side of the guide bar and shifting attention focus like that helped. -- Mike
Never think you are not artistic ,what you do is nothing less than sculpture . What you do with a lathe an a mill is just a more complicated hammer and chisel . How Manny years have you used them ? Practice with pencil line or follow a doted line . Now have fun with if . Steve
AH the patience it takes to pinstripe. I am impatient. I am better at taking a 200 thousands cut on 3/4 inch stock at 700 rpm at spring throwing feed. I was taught to cut springs not strings. No bird nests. Boss behind me hurry up.!
You're not very good at art? Bullpucky. You are quite good. It just happens to be a mechanical art.. Just keep playing with the striper. Graduate to a painted piece of sheetmetal- that will have a different feel than a pad of paper.
You can use a magnetic strip from an old fridge door as a magnetic guide.
I can't wait to see the pin-striping showing up on machinery around the museum, Old machinery deserves to be dressed up a bit.
That is awesome Keith... All those antiques and vintages needs a final touch after refinishing/repainting is pinstripes... Thanks, I am impressed with the demo...
That is a fine little tool. I've been wanting one for a long time. Some day when I finish a project that's worthy of pinstripes I'll break down and buy one.
I'm gonna have to:
"git-me-whon-a-them-thar-thangs"
Pretty cool Keith.
Your safe is going to look great!
Looking forward to seeing this one!
Razor!
Thank you for a great demo. Best from Scotland.
Back in the 70s I was given one of those but my tool box at work were I had it was stolen so I never got to even try to use it. But now that I see how easy it is to use I may buy a new one.
Keith, I do like the odds and ends because you show some very interesting and unusual tools which I find enjoyable to watch. Your youtubs are very well done and easy to watch. I started with the machining to increase my knowledge of that work and found museum segments of great interest. Keep it up, you are a pleasure to listen to and pass along a lot of knowledge in many different types of work. I have an interest in many different things and enjoy your enthusiasm and variety. Fred
VERY helpful Keith. Thanks a lot. Colin UK 🇬🇧
Pretty cool demo! Nothing like real world experience.
I dont think most machinists are artistically inclined. The only exception I can think of is Keith Fenner. A truly multi talented man.
I ran manual mills and lathes and other various machines like jig and surface grinders. I never did get into the the cnc software like cad or whatever is being used now. I could obviously set up, adjust and keep a cnc running, I just never did the programming. I prefer to feel the tool speed and feed speed and the pull/resistance on climb or conventional cuts. I’m artistic. And I LOVE manual machining. I look at them both very similarly. I think they are one in the same. I do know what you mean, but I feel like machining is art.
Great video Keith! Looks like you have a new profession. Lee
Hi Keith,
Mastering the pinstriping art, is like mastering the TIG part in the art of welding, getting good at it is, practice on and on.... You'll get good at it "AFTER" your first safe... Don't get discouraged the second safe will be better .... lol
Waiting to see the results,
Pierre
Looks good, Keith. I can hardy wait to see you stripe the safe. I know you'll do a first-rate job, just like you always do. A suggestion: If you want to pinstripe a curve, try using a cylinder (like a paint can) as a guide. That might work.
Keith, after watching you freehand that tool, and doing better than I ever could, I'm thinking that someday when I have room to build a gantry router I should get one of those, rig it like a drag knife, and let the computer do the drawing! Should work well once the offsets are worked out for turns.
-- Mike
Thanks ‘Keith’ as always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~ Beugler pinstriping kit. That is something I could use. Should have put a link below.
Looks great for a first test run! I can't wait to see it in action on the safe. If you do decide to do some curves it seems like it would be easier to keep things where you want them if you lightly draw the design on in pencil first.
Hello Keith,
Nice handy tool for stripings and never seen it before.
Greetings from Roel.
Very nice kit. Thanks for sharing.
1 shot will wipe easy and neatly with isopropyl alcohol, just paint over the ends and wipe it with a clean cloth while its wet, Keith. 1 shot is nice to work with. thanks for the look at the tool though!
Looks like fun Keith, I can just see after you get your safe done next will be a few machines and or you wife's car and your truck, heck maybe even a new Carrier. Who knows?
a tip I learned from a sign painter, keep a rag and paint thinner handy for the rare Bozo moment than may happen. oh, and drawing your idea out with pencil helps too, oh the thinner cleans off pencil marks too. keep having fun and thanks for sharing!
Some "tips" i'd like to share.
-It's best to stick with a hard surface. If you have scrap plexiglass, it's right about perfect because it's not metal hard but it's not paper soft either. It's almost paint close. You can also sand the plexiglass back to retry.
-A good way to put paint in the container (i use it for my small air brush) is to get one of those huge syringes that have big, 2 mm needles (google this for the amazon link "Stainless Steel Luer Lock Dispensing Needle Tip"). They are perfect for this application.
***** For the folks who don't have ready access to syringes, there are bigger droppers used for baby medicines and formula - called spoon droppers, and they hold 5 ml = 1 tsp
I use them for mixing paints for airbrushing, and for pipetting up rubbing alcohol to thin the acrylics
Or, one can buy the industrial syringes online...
Cheers,
Eric
chemech Heh, never thought of those things. I'm gonna give them a try.
Thanks for the tip. :)
Hi Keith
When pouring out of gallon can you get a cleaner pour if you tilt the spout towards the far edge of can instead of towards the closer edges or corner.
Like others I propose a machinist solution to keep the wheel perpendicular to surface and act as edge guide. A larger diameter rod having two 90* bends with the free legs being of equal length from bend, essentially a square "U". Make rod length between bends such that you can easily adjust to follow straightedge. Since the stock guides are so thin it is more practical to use larger diameter rods. Fab a clamp like on the Beugler to hold the larger rod diameter and that attaches to the Beugler clamp. When using set the offset to straightedge so comfortable and rotate the two free ends down to bear on surface. This will keep the wheel perpendicular and allow for easy following of edge. Also makes a good video of fab.
hi Keith first again looking forward to this
Excellent video! It's always great to see you step out of your wheelhouse, Keith. It inspires me to try new things, even if I have failed (often miserably) on previous attempts.
Using your other hand and dragging the fingers as a steadying support will make long lines easier too.
Very useful vid. Thanks man
Keith, yes paper is easier than a hard surface. Best practice on a hard painted surface like you will be pinstriping on. I have one of these Beuglers and they make it look easier than it is to use. Practice practice practice, just like you would need to do with a brush. The wheels will grip onto paper better than a hard surface that has a tendency to slide around on you. In fact I think the best practice would be on glass as that would be the slickest surface and once you could master glass everything else would be a piece of cake.
interesting concept keith i would like to have a closer look
at that with being an artist
I just won the eBay bidding on this same BEUGLAR kit. I decided to replace my first Beugler that I bought with my first paycheque in 1961 at Sears. . The cast zinc head had deteriorated and turned to powder. My friend joked, " They don't make them like they used to."
I have used Rustoleum and it is every bit as good as One Touch, for me.
Thank you for yet another good video! Your content is always of interest. There is one thing that it would be nice if you improved on though. Please try to find a way to eliminate the breathing sounds. In my experience it's often just a matter of moving the mic a little bit.
Keep up the good work! And keep on breathing :-)
So Keith . . . how long before we see signs on your tool boxes with your name in nice cursive lettering? :-) That's a pretty nifty gadget to be sure! Thanks for sharing. Before you know it, you will be posting a pin striping tutorial! Thanks again!
Have a good one!
Dave
I've used one of these quite a bit on horse trailers. You can use magnets (cutting torch) of course but don't overlook a few feet of flat 10-3 or 8-2 wire bent to your curve and clamped or secured with neodymium magnets.
Those lines looked pretty straight Keith. Im curious as to how crisp the edges of the lines are up close. From the pov of the camera it looked pretty good. I agree with others that practicing on a hard painted surface will be the best practice.
I'm with ya on the painting...can't draw a straight line either. ;-)
A really good freehand painter I know used to draw everything in pencil beforehand then break out the brushes. Seemed to work for him.... ;-)
Colin
thanks that's cool I need one now
I notice you kept pulling the tool, can you push it too? Looks like to me you could trace much easier with a push by seeing where you were going.
Hallo Keith
It looks nice the Pinstriping tool.
why do you not make a holder for the Pinstriping tool, like a Holder for a cutting torch to keep the Pinstriping tool straight.
with kind regards Peter
Big Daddy's got nothing to fear from either of us, but you're a lot better than me....
Now never heard of it called steel wool I almost spit my coffee laughing. I know you will show us the safe when done.
At a machine shop I was at ,on the Mazak 24 .The were cutting spools from hollow stock. In other words cutting 12 inch od down in the middle to make flanges on each end. for high pressure in the oil field. So they were as long as a Mazak 24 is say 12 feet? He was FOR DAYS taking 300 deep cuts full length,slow rpm, coolant steaming,crisply rolling chips,sitting on the bench watching for days. Insert testing also. Mounds of chips. For days!!!
You are a natural Keith!
Are you sure the safe pinstripes were not gold leaf instead of painted on?
Regards,
Duck
Hi there, do you have to empty and clean the tool after every time you use it? Or will it just dry up over night? Great video tho - only one on youtube that shows how to load it up and clean, so thanks!
Yes, you have to clean it when you get through or it will stop everything up.
Painting starts at 5:00
How long before you mount that for use on the lathe and milling machine. Just lower it to the work and feed the table across it for perfect lines. I want to see all the pulleys for the Vance pinstriped when you are done..
Did you try using a pinstriping brush? Sometimes the old way is better.
With the tool having a way to hold a edging accessory you could probably come up with a machinist version that would keep the tool parallel to the surface and a lot less likely to wonder offline pretty easily. Maybe a slot just in a piece of aluminum that would slide along a rule so you couldn't drift either direction. Just a thought from a guy with no art talent too.
Something along the line of a clamp an adjustable fence is what I was thinking. That way, since he was going to outline around the edges of flat surfaces anyway, the fence could just ride around the edge of the piece. I think it would be pretty easy with Keith's fabrication skills.
Do not worry even the best had to start some ware .
First run test was great! You'll get better with time, just practice and more practice!
I think you should try some pinstriping with a brush, you might be surprised.
....13
For magnetic strip use the magnetic stuff from an old fridge door
I used this when airbrushing on steel
Graham Burgess I was able to purchase a magnetic strip from the guys who make this product that has a nice little groove down it to help guide the tool. It works like a charm!
my 2 cents. Use a straight edge and a strong magnet. For the curves, a tin cover will give you a perfect curve.
Do you have an example of the of the art work you have to create?You should practice duplicating that on a similar surface.
Good luck!
Interesting kit. I think you did better using your finger for a guide. Thanks for the video.
Your finger did a good job, but I'm wondering if the factory guide would work better if you used your other hand to press it against the side of the workpiece as you go, and focus more on that and less on the paint wheel? I've had similar issues with guides on cutting torches not staying against the side of the guide bar and shifting attention focus like that helped.
-- Mike
Keith. I admire your enthusiasm to do this yourself, but would it not be easier and cheaper
to engage a professional ?
New career there Keith 8-)
***** I don't know Keith, looks pretty good to me 8-)
Keith, you should be working with Chip Foose. Check him out.
Cliff
you can practice pinstriping on mamas car!
***** chicken! LOL
Never think you are not artistic ,what you do is nothing less than sculpture . What you do with a lathe an a mill is just a more complicated hammer and chisel . How Manny years have you used them ? Practice with pencil line or follow a doted line . Now have fun with if .
Steve
You're holding it wrong.
It must be to bad a tool it's been sold forever and a day.
chceš nás učiť a sám to nevieš....
AH the patience it takes to pinstripe. I am impatient. I am better at taking a 200 thousands cut on 3/4 inch stock at 700 rpm at spring throwing feed. I was taught to cut springs not strings. No bird nests. Boss behind me hurry up.!
You're not very good at art? Bullpucky. You are quite good. It just happens to be a mechanical art.. Just keep playing with the striper. Graduate to a painted piece of sheetmetal- that will have a different feel than a pad of paper.