Amazon's BEST-SELLING gloves are DANGEROUS
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- In this video I’m going to show you how the number one best-seller in motorcycle gloves on Amazon were being sold illegally.
You’ll see what happened when I sent them to a lab, how quickly they fell apart when I dragged them down the road, and what you need to look for when buying gloves that WILL offer your hands some protection.
This isn’t the first time I’ve flagged up potentially dangerous motorcycle riding kit on Amazon, so I’ll also be asking them how they’ll start taking your safety more seriously…
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00:00 Dangerous bike kit sold on Amazon
01:29 Looking for fake safety ratings on motorcycle riding kit
03:52 Asking Cofit for proof of safety
05:21 Getting motorbike gear sold on Amazon tested
08:37 Real-world test of the Cofit gloves sold on Amazon
11:07 How to buy quality, safe motorcycle gloves
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18:15 An open letter to Amazon about YOUR safety
19:05 A familiar statement from Amazon
20:18 Amazon’s claims of customer protection
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@@bennettsbikesocial talking about safety can you reuse a back protector after it’s been involved in a crash ?.
Amazon don't care at all
That sadly seems to be the case based on the investigations we've done... Cheers, John
@bennettsbikesocial which makes videos like this all the more important. If amazon won't do anything, other sources need to warn consumers.
Amazon is just a hosting platform like ebay with a few own brand items. So it’s not Amazon it’s the sellers on Amazon
@@user-kp4mu4ku2v no, it's amazon for giving them a platform to sell on, and they take their % cut of the sales, they're not only complicit they are partners.
@@user-kp4mu4ku2vAmazon are responsible for everything they profit from, by making it available for sale. It’s nothing like eBay, though they are trying very hard to be as bad.
A friend bought some 'motorcycle gloves' on Amazon. Utter crap - told him not to use them. Ended up being used as gardening gloves. They lasted 2 weekends of pulling up weeds before they disintegrated.
Criminal.
It's shocking - glad he had a mate like you to warn him. Cheers, John
The irony being a cheap pair of 2 quid gardening rigger gloves would probably be more protective than these POS. Would never consider buying bike gear off Amazon, but it is concerning that young new riders on a budget could be buying these things thinking they'll do the job.
unfortunately, i fell for the same amazon scam gloves and yup they became gardening gloves as they weren't even good enough for light mechanical work. i won't use cheap helmet, boots, or gloves!
To be honest I buy from my local motorbike shops just to keep them open (when they’re gone, they’re gone😢) but both of them offer excellent customer service and advice when I’ve gone in looking for kit - Amazon reviews can’t compete.
Amazon should be legally liable for selling this kind of stuff, problem is this kind of gear will most likely be bought by new riders or people that want to gift something to friend...
Exactly! Experience riders tend to know, but new riders and - as you say - those buying gifts could easily suffer. All the best, John
No Amazon only host products for other sellers (apart from a few essentials own brand) Amazon choice is based on top sales x reviews.
The company is still bringing these to market by fulfilling them, which could be how we see consequences this time
Agree that Amazon should not advertise, market or sell items that do not legally conform to applicable standards in any country.
Amazon only provides the paltform for companies to sell their stuff.
So suing them would be hard.
Putting their Amazon Choice label on it tho might be another thing
I’d ask people to consider what living the rest of their lives with shattered hands would be like before buying cheap gloves. I had an accident years ago and my good gloves were probably the reason that I can still use a keyboard today… the armour on the gloves was smashed but my hands were basically ok aside from one dislocated finger
Ooof - glad you were (pretty much) okay! Cheers, John
I worked from time to time with an older fella about ten years ago. Always had a sort of tubi wrist support type thing on one arm. It looked very atrophied and he'd usually be holding one arm with the other, sometimes swinging the bad arm up like a pendulum. I thought it was thalidomide or some sort of birth problem at first but one day he caught me.leaving work in bike gear for the first time. He was very interested in whether I was wearing proper gear. Turns out it was a motorcycle accident that did his arm in. I remember his "lovely day for it" clearly. He definitely missed riding.
As an American it's an even easier, darker choice: $300 on good gloves or $300k on a hospital bill?
@@SpringfieldFatts Amazon rely on the fact that no one can afford to sue them for such medical bills - if that was to happen perhaps they might start to care about the knock-off garbage they sell
@@niclasroberts An accident sure focuses the mind on such things. The accident I mentioned was at no more than 20mph but I went up and then down hard onto the road with my right hand taking a good old hit. The knuckle armour was destroyed which could have been my hand which would have been life altering. It stands out like a beacon to me when I now see anyone riding without gloves and these Amazon gloves might as well be riding without gloves for the good they’ll do. If my story convinces 1 person to buy proper gloves then it was worth telling. I’d also add that good gloves last so are cheaper in the long run… I’m still riding into the Alpinestars gloves I got after that accident some 10 years later
This is why I buy from a bike shop - local main dealer, J&S, etc. Buying from Amazon for riding kit is a big no no for me.
Amazon should come under the same laws as other motorcycle clothing retailers when it comes to safety certificate regulations
Absolutely. Cheers, John
Great work again john, you've totally changed my buying habits over the years.
Noticed some shockers at motorcycle live last year, how they get away with it is beyond me.
Thanks so much! It's going to need action from more than a handful of us for it to change, but at least more and more buyers know the difference now. All the best, John
It's about time Amazon took some responsiblity for what is being sold via 'their' marketplace. It's rife with conterfiet goods, some of which are clearly dangerous.
100 euro for Alpinestars gloves. Can’t imagine buying cheap shit.
Exactly. I paid about 80GBP for some proper gloves around 10 years ago and they’re still good today
Richa gloves are what? 40-60 🤷♂️
Rst one are about that
Rukka Airium 2.0 were also 100€ :)
I got £20 DXR gloves for my GF, they are great summer gloves.
Alpinestars is overpriced. RST is cheaper and still passes the same CE tests
Will be Confit and renamed something else tomorrow. Good work John calling this out, if any recognized bike store sold counterfeit good they would be held accountable. Marketplaces should ensure those selling goods with standards labelled are held to proof of same, the shrug off of a tech giant is not good enough
Let's hope they start getting the message. Cheers, John
I'm glad there are people like you, calling companies out and bringing their shitty practice to light... have you also contacted UK/EU agencies to have a look at this? Amazon will just try to shift responsibility elsewhere until authority starts asking questions and demanding answers/proofs.
Yep - Trading Standards and OPSS have the full lab reports and all details. Cheers, John
Good
@@bennettsbikesocialGreat work 👍
Good work. Thank you! This is important work. Please carry on. One of my local dealers warned me about fake C E ratings. Unfortunately I found some equipment there that was not even C E labeled at all. At some other dealers I found my German helmet, Polish leather jacket, Italian MC Jeans, one pair of gloves made in the Netherlands and one pair made in France. Honestly my modern kit doesn't compare well to my old kit from 1978, but I gave it away.
I would never buy motorcycle gear on Amazon. I only use Amazon when I buy books.
Darwins theory of evolution is alive and thriving on Amazon, £20 for new motorcycle gloves via Amazon is a recipe for disaster. It's obvious Amazon don't care and know they can just chuck money at MPs to let them do what they like. I met you at the ABR Festival, the guy who jumped out of the Roadskin changing rooms after recognising your voice. It was great to meet you, you are as nice in person as you come across on screen. The Roadskin jeans are so comfortable.
Ah - was great to meet you! Glad you're getting on well with the Roadskins! Cheers, John
Hi, I used to be a member of BSI Committee for software engineering and, if it helps, I’d be prepared to vouch for your application to the motorcycle safety committee.
Thanks very much! I'm sharing this video with the BSI so hopefully we'll get somewhere. Cheers, John
As always, proper investigative journalism from the bike social team.
It’s sad in this day and age that you have to repeatedly point this out to who is I’m sure, the biggest retailer in the world.
The only advice I ever give friends is, buy the best that you can afford. Clearly, as long as it meets minimum safety requirements.
Cheers! John
I won't even buy brand named bike gear from Amazon in case they aren't genuine.Great video as always..
Me too. There are too many fake sold by Amazon 😡
Great that you’re highlighting this very important issue. Amazon should be at least jointly liable for selling this unsafe gear which is utterly unfit for purpose. Disgraceful.
there's a reason seasoned bikers wear kit from "known" brands, the problem like you said is new riders who don't know any better and if they crash it may put them off for life...
Great content as always John. Amazon seems to sell a lot of utter rubbish products these days from unsafe motorcycle PPE to death trap electrical items with fake CE certification. Interestingly the algorithms seem to push the junk to the top of searches and it can be difficult to even find genuine items if you are able to find them at all. I wonder if this will eventually be the downfall of Amazon as customers will loose confidence. I have!
Cheers, and yes - it doesn't feel like a premium seller anymore. John
It's about time companies like Amazon were taken to task, there needs to be a global standard as well as EU standards
Definitely the moral of the story is support your local bike shop and buy the best kit you can afford.
another problem is that cause of so much crap that sold on Amazon there is barely a choice of good products from trusted resellers ... all those "stores" are some couch business peoples looking for easy income ...
Anyone paying that price and expecting a good product needs to seriously re-evaluate how they look at the world.
Sure, Amazon has some responsibility, but when the price difference between Amazon crap and proven known quality products is that large, that should red flag anyone.
Great work on the video!
John, you are bloody amazing. This is one reason why I have never, and will never buy anything from Amazon / eBay, you just can't trust them. I have for many years now always bought everything I need from the Sportsbikeshop. As far I'm concerned they are 100% reliable, in the products that they sell. So for me alone, it's a no brained really. The work that you personally do on our behalf is truly commendable. I'm glad I've got my insurance through Bennetts too, plus they were £100 cheaper than loads more insurance company's as well. 👍👍🏍🏍
Thanks SO much, and really chuffed to hear that we were able to get you a great price! All the best, John
I've been waiting for a space on two BSI committees for about 7 years. I am an actual bona fide expert with PhD and Technical Director of a UKAS accredited laboratory. They don't want people who want to make positive change, they want people from big multinationals or Trade/Industry Associations so they can all back-slap each other instead of actually making changes.
This is why i subbed to thia channel, well researched, well presented videos that actually try and have honest conversations with the industry at large
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Amazon needs to be sued hardly. A local store selling illegal products would get serious consecuences... While all Amazon gets out of this crime (I can't find a different word to describe what they're doing) is only an open letter and some public shaming.
Dont get me wrong, I highly appreciate the effort spent on producing this valuable, high quality video...I've never bought a single productfrom them, let alone PPE, and this convince me that I'm doing fine... but it's frustrating for me as a consumer to see that honest, small businesses have to compete in highly unbalanced conditions against a marketing giant who can violate market regulations without any serious repercussions.
Soon to be back on bikes and seriously thinking of completley avoiding Amazon for any bike gear now !Thank you for all your efforts mate
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
I work at an airsoft field as the head ref, we have the same issues with airsoft gear sold off on amazon. Maybe 3 masks a week, first time customers bring them in and try to wear them on the field, but since they aren't ANSI Z87+ rated, they aren't actually impact rated (even though they are advertised, on Amazon, as "Airsoft Masks"). I catch them before they get on the field, at first we were testing them by shooting them a few times, but we destroyed so many of them I could just show customers pictures of an identical mask to theirs that had the lens or mouth guard shot out and ask them to return their masks to Amazon and buy something quality that will actually keep their eyes and teeth from being shot out.
Keis glove must recommend. I use mine on my electric unicycle off-road a lot. I have had so many crashes and what not. Only damage is the seams of some of the finger tips. Some super glue and bam, basically damage free.
Great info!! The dirt cheap price should scream worthless, but some people simply dont know otherwise.
I wanted to say thank you. You provide an invaluable service to the m/c community. Your knowledge, integrity, and passion for rider safety are evident. Disinformation is everywhere, while you (and Bennets) continue to advocate for motorcycle safety. Bravo!
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
Well done John, good effort here, sharing details on quality and certification etc. As new rider 2 years ago, I did much research including loads of your content as well as others, and bought all my initial gear from a local store, other stuff subsequently from SBS and other less local bike shops, always looking for quality v cost.
I’m pretty sure as a newer rider, I would struggle to buy this kind of thing from Amazon or elsewhere, without first trying stuff on.
Keep up your great work, it is appreciated!
Thanks very much! All the best, John
Brilliant video! As motorcyclists we should be grateful to all concerned that these types of videos/tests are carried out, clearly we can’t always trust ‘trusted sellers’!
I don’t use amazon for anything anymore.i left a 2 star review for a memory stick for an iPhone a while back.i then received several emails asking me to remove the review and the would give me a gift voucher it started at £10 eventually ended up at £25..i just ignored them…
Very thorough as always - shocking the way this continues to be ignored and the generic responses they give you
Cheers! Still pushing for some more acknowledgement from them. All the best, John
Brilliant effort and great video. Honestly, you're the first place I check when I need to buy any kit. Cheers
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Bravo!! Great video.
Thank you for providing such informative detail on your tested products, suggesting solutions and passing on the findings to trading standards.
We (bikers) appreciate your work and level of detail.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Still the best consumer journalism in the moto sphere right here and for free. As I’m not in the UK I can’t buy your insurance and I don’t really have a need for the (very good) deals you provide with the membership. I will however gladly buy you a pint should we ever meet. Thank you John, these things matter.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Great work providing this information for us to share and knocking on doors for change. I'm glad there are people like yourself willing to put the work in for the benefit of us all 👏🏻. Sidenote loving calimoto, I'm doing some research to get a tablet I see on the BMW, There's a tablet. what brand of tablet and locking mount are you using? Many thanks John
Thanks very much! The tablet is the Carpe Iter V4B, with its own clamp. You can get it from Carpe Iter in Prague, or A Bike Thing sells them now too
Thanks for all your work as ever mate. Very worrying from Amazon, how on earth were these gloves ever allowed to feature in their marketplace?
Sadly, these appear to just be a drop in the ocean. Cheers, John
I have the LS2 KP2 gloves from 18 mins in. Brilliant glove and only cost me around £80 odd! Yes buddy, we 100% need you representing us please!!
Thanks! All the best, John
Hi John, thank you for highlighting this issue and after watching your video I checked a pair of gloves I bought for last summer and guess what they are the gloves you mentioned.... Good job I've only used them once or twice ☹️ think Amazon should recall them and offer customers full refunds!! Disgraceful 😡
It might be worth asking for a refund, as they've been misrepresented. Cheers, John
Great vid but you did raise a good point. Sometimes you can shop for a great product from a great dealer but it just doesn't fit. I experienced this recently. I bought a fantastic Richa jacket that fits really well but I couldn't find gloves that fitted just right for me. I do currently have a pair of Held ventilated leather gloves so will stick with them till it gets cold then I'll have to go shopping again
Well done for highlighting this. Its not just unsafe, uncertified motorcycle gear amazon sell unfortunately - its the majority of their range
When it comes to safety kit i never buy from amazon.
All my gear has been either manufacturer direct (Hood / JTS jeans) or sportsbike shop and well known brands (RST Daytona Oxford Helite). In the safety game you really do get what you pay for. Dont play with your safety and wellbeing 👍. Great video and calling them out.
Thanks! All the best, John
Good work Benetts, thank you! The more motorcyclists that watch this, the better.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Good vid, subbed, and shared. Thank you for raising this issue and doing something about it.
Thanks for sharing it! Hopefully it'll help reduce the chance of people getting hurt. Cheers, John
Fantastic work john, please keep it up it's great to see
Thanks! All the best, John
You're doing some great work. I have worked for standards and testing laboratories as a certification engineer and I know making changes is a painstaking, expensive, long and tedious process. As a standards agency you have a big say about changes obviously, but you cannot make changes without industry consensus. Most of the time the key individuals inside are very knowledgable, this should get their attention or it is something that is already known (regarding the glove palm), but making the change will need to be voted on with the key players.
Absolutely, and we saw the problems with BS13595, but hopefully we'll see more steps taken for the good of the buyers. Cheers, John
Why can’t a standards agency make changes without industry consensus?
@@The-Splat I think it's more to do with the potential for a lack of consensus if the committee is made up of industry players.
The main reason is that a standards agency is not making any products and is not keeping up with the latest materials and technologies to make these products. As new technologies are found, the standards slowly change and evolve. LEDs really threw all the lighting product standards into a tailspin. Another reason is that some products are inherently unsafe, like a toaster.. it has exposed heating elements and sharp edges that can easily hurt humans in many ways. If we make it completely safe as a standards agency would want, it would be a really expensive and inconvenient piece of equipment that just toasts bread, that no one would buy.
After watching the valuable videos made by Bike Social, I will now not buy online, and a great way to start supporting our local shops, where you can see what your buying, with confidence.
Amazon has damaged its reputation hugely in my eyes. it has ignored Bennetts for too long, over a legal and moral obligation. To me, they are no better than the people selling unsafe gear.
Well done John and keep doing your stuff.
It is appreciated.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Well done for taking the fight to the big guys flouting the rules.
I’m so glad to see someone, with a voice, flagging this up. I was sent a similar set of gloves, through Amazon’s Vine programme. I always provided honest and objective feedback, which clearly didn’t please the seller, as I was then dropped from the programme (with no real explanation, after many years).
Sorry to hear that, but glad there are honest people out there. All the best, John
Great work John. Amazing that the authorities cannot crack down on this practice.
Let's hope we see change at some point...
Thanks for trying to keep us all safe I hope you manage to stop Amazon selling crap
Sadly I think we're a long way off, but thanks! All the comments here will hopefully be helping raise some awareness. Cheers, John
Brilliant, I doff my cap to you sir. I will be writing to my MP and encourage everyone else to do the same
Thank you SO much! Cheers, John
Thank you for all this work!
Our governments must start requiring Amazon and other mail order companies to follow the same laws as other resellers and not hide behind some "Oh we are not the ones selling the product, we are only...." excuses.
It's destroying legitimate businesses! Cheers, John
They do, but don't enforce. Not unique to UK, EU or anywhere else.
You are slowly becoming one of the people on my list of ‘if you could have a meal with anyone who would it be?’
I honestly don’t think you can beat going to a proper motorcycle store and speaking with the staff there and making an informed decision. Yes it cost more but when I fell and had my leg pinned under the bike until it came to a stop I can 100% say it was worth every penny. I got up and walked off with some bruising only.
Glad you're okay, and thanks! Though I need to warn you that I don't share my food!
John your stuff just keeps getting better.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Keep up the great work trying to keep us safe.
Amazon should comply to all requirement with their products for motorcycle and proper certification .
Totally agree. Cheers, John
I've personally always bought my biking gear from an in-store place not because of safety standards rather because i'm an odd size my arms & body are really long with semi broad shoulders also you can get insane deals for brand name stuff like I picked up a set of black brand gloves for 10 quid because the tag pierced a bit of the cuff too bad i won't be able to ride this season because my insurance is taking the piss with paying out.
A great piece of investigative work on behalf of us punters. Perhaps just as concerning as Cofit's flagrant disregard for the safety regulations and Amazon's apparent "blind eye" policy, is the flaw in CE testing methods for the palm area.
Amazon need to pay attention, this is people’s health and lives they are risking.
Mark Taylor.
Totally agree. While Amazon is welcome to comment on here, I doubt they will. I'm sure there will be views of this though. All the best, John
The point is though that Amazon do NOT need to listen because they are getting away with it. No-one is even censuring them let alone prosecuting them, let alone issuing them with the kind of enormous penalties that would ensure they address the problem.
So many retailers where their entire offering is non compliant unfortunately! Bikers Paradise / Bikeweardirect / bikers gear Australia / warrior gears / Lane hunters to name a few...
Top marks to you for calling out this poor equipment. Experienced motorcyclists will probably not be fooled but there will be a lot of inexperienced riders who will be and will be putting themselves at risk…
Absolutely - hopefully it helps. Cheers, John
The more shares the link to this video gets, the more riders will get the message. A proposal to set up a web site providing information on the standards, combined with literature sent out by DVLA with all provisional licences, licence renewals and motorcycle V5s, etc., has not progressed since it was last discussed some 18 months ago.
Thank you for doing this on our behalf, it’s so important to have these inferior products removed from the market. Amazon needs to be reined in and held accountable…you shouldn’t be able to profit from selling goods that misrepresent compliance to safety certifications.
Not CE rated, Amazon don’t care, and don’t pay any tax in the UK. These pirates need to be held to account.
Amazon's best selling anything is utter crap, the only thing amazon are good for are kindle books. Full Stop.
Amazon literally have blood on their hands
Another great video with vitally important consumer advice, well done and thank you 👍🏻
I'm sorry but buying any safety equipment off Amazon is crazy in my opinion. In my experience (granted fairly limited) of buying off Amazon there are an absolutely amazing amount of "fraudulent" items for sale and again in my experience Amazon really don't care!
If you want decent kit go to a reputable dealer, there are plenty online that deliver quickly and are competitive in their prices for GENUINE safety kit. But the age old thing of wanting a "proper" bargain (Aka greed) gets the better of some people and benefits those claiming to be sellers of safety kit!
This video is further proof of why I just don't trust Amazon. There is so much fake stuff in every department not just bike gear and I don't understand why people buy any of if it. Great work on the video!
I had these exact same gloves and decided I would change them BEFORE I needed them.
I settled for the Alpinestars Men's SMX-1 Air v2.
It defies belief that anyone would buy motorcycle safety gear from Amazon in the first place let alone thinking any safety markings or ratings are actually genuine.
Ha...I bought those gloves as weight lifting gloves and I wore out the palm in 3 months.
Excellent video as usual. I do buy some of my riding gear from Amazon but it is always a reputable brands and never from a name I do not know. The worrying thing about all of this is the majority of purchasers likely trust Amazon to do their due diligence for them and believe the gear they are buying is fit for purpose. Never assume with riding gear, always research. 👍
Excellent video, well done. Another example of why Amazon is a shabby corporate citizen. Selling rogue PPE, dodging taxes, playing a big part in the demise of the high street. Support your local bike store & buy high quality kit, not some cheap knock off rubbish which could cost your skin!
Well said! Cheers, John
👍Great video John, excellent work once again, take care ride steady.
Thanks - you too!
I'll only buy brand name, proven products now, Furygan, Oxford, Weise, LS2 etc. Years ago I'd love a bargain from the BMF Shows, Ally Pally and the similar events but with age comes wisdom! Those £5 gloves from the clearance bin, the £10 jacket and the £20 helmet would probably have fallen apart if the worst had ever happened! Keep up the good work buddy!
Thanks very much! And yeah, decent kit can be had without spending a fortune. Cheers, John
Another video proving that Bikesocial cares and is most motorcyclist centric channel.
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
Great work again John.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Great work John. Good luck getting onto the BSI committee.
Thanks! Cheers, John
Dear Doctor, you said it right, that is why I don't return to Amazon for a very long time, because you dear Doctor and Jeffy-baby doesn't give a sh.. apart from the money. Amazon for many years now became the next platform of questionable items. Temu, Ali express, Wish, Amazon, they're all the same.
When I hear someone around me starts riding, I jump eagerly to offer them help to find the safest gear they can get for their allocated budget. Yes, it costs me my own time, but it can potentially save that person some pain down the road - no pun intended. I point them towards educational videos like this, and reputable shops. They tell me what they want, I help them filter it down.
Thank you John, and keep doing these videos. You won't stop those products being available on the market unfortunately while there is enough people buying them. But you will educate more and more people about how to make a better choice.
Thank YOU for helping others to make informed choices. Cheers, John
As an 11 year old I fell off my bicycle at about 30 mph going down a steep hill - my hands, face and upper body were torn shreds, I was a mass of scabs, I had to have gravel pulled out of my hands, it was bloody awful. The first thing you do when falling off a bicycle or motorcycle is put your hands out !!! Great work John 👍🏻
Ooof! Sorry to hear that! Cheers, John
Honestly if it’s not from a reputable brand, don’t trust it. I only ride a stand up electric scooter, but it’s a big one capable of 100kph and I only wear gear that is properly rated. I CRINGE whenever I spot an Amazon motorcycle helmet that is basically a bicycle helmets shaped like a motorcycle helmet, and are wholly inadequate
If you want cheap and safe, buy Hardy leather work gloves from harbor freight for like $12 bucks. I hit a deer and went down and all it did was scuff the leather a little bit on the palm. I still ride in them.
You just need leather, you don’t need anything fancy.
Most pairs I own have heavy, rubber armor over the knuckles also.
Well said John. I am forwarding this to a few motorcycling friends. Not that hey would buy such garbage. But you never know. Am checking all my gloves & will look at Goldtop. Have you considered running for PM?
Thanks very much - anybody spreading the word will really help. Ha - I'd be a terrible PM! Cheers, John
Spotted the manga! Keep up the good work John!
Fitment alone is sufficient cause to be wary bike kit purchased from Amazon, but that's true for any online retailer. I plan to visit a shop in order to try on gear, as well as to check safety certifications.
It's not just Amazon. I've lost count of the number of adverts for "motorcycle" gear, particularly gloves and footwear on Facebook.
Facebook is a whole other problem. The one thing you can at least say about Amazon is that it replies to most issues, which is more than Facebook has.
The sad truth is that a lot of motorcyclists (or normal people who happen to ride motorcycles) don't really care about their kit. You only have to look at the numbers that wear no kit in summer. The amount of times I see riders wearing full leathers but with no gloves on! If I saw a pair of bike gloves on amazon for less than £20 then I'd know they were cr*p. The problem here is both the general attitude to safety and the fact that the safety labeling is fake/illegal...
It doesn't matter what level of guarantee Amazon provide on this gear, life-changing injuries can't be fixed with money. I'd never dream of buying gear that isn't from a reputable brand and vendor with proven quality, and is the strong advice I offer to anyone considering getting into riding.
OMG That is shocking. Really really worrying.
Amazon should know better, support you, and remove these gloves from their site.
Who checks that gear really does comply ?
If there is no one checking then the cert levels mean nothing.
Many thanks for this information.
It appears nobody! Cheers, John
Without stating the obvious, I guess the key thing to draw from this sort of experience it to be a bit more "Savvy" when buying proper safety equipment. Thanks for exposing this sort of thing. To be fair, anyone who doesn't use a recognised Motorcycle Accessories Retailer is likely to miss out on the safest equipment. Let's be honest, who would by motorcycle gloves from a bookseller anyway?
Thanks, John. I've concluded it's best to buy over the counter from local specialists
Totally agree! Cheers, John
Great video- great info!! Thanks from NZ.
I own some cheap $10 chineese gloves- and I KNOW they arent as safe as my full leather ones.. but they are light and comfortable for summer... also- better than NO gloves!
Sadly, these are barely better than nothing.
Thanks for the diligence. My biggest problem with your sponsor Calimoto is the navigation voice directions are always for some reason a quarter of the volume of whatever media I'm listening to. I can't ever hear what it's telling me, and I never saw any sort of option to turn that up. Fatal flaw in my eyes.
That's weird. I'll have a dig into the settings, and ask them next time I get a chance. Cheers, John
@@SpringfieldFatts : Have you tried increasing the volume settings on your phone? A warning message may come up, stating that you are attempting to set levels above the recommended safe volume, but those settings may not have motorcycling use in mind.
@@paulvarnsverry11 Yes, other media / music is not a problem. Similarly when Google Maps chimes in and lowers music for directions I don't have a problem hearing those. Only Calimoto.