Adam Silver Makes a SERIOUS Threat...
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- The Toronto Raptors center Jontay Porter is under investigation by the NBA for betting irregularities. Adam Silver recently addressed this investigation and made a serious threat of banishment if the findings come out true. Ben Rogers breaks down these comments as well as a potential Scottie Barnes return and Gradey Dick setting personal bests.
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0:00 Toronto Raptors News
0:55 Adam Silver Makes SERIOUS THREAT to Jontay Porter
5:03 The TRUTH About a Scottie Return
6:21 Gradey Dick Setting Records
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100% if he's found guilty he should be banned from the league. This is way worse than PEDs. You can't be caught ruining the integrity of the league and get to continue to play. That's a scary precedence to set.
Not only should he be banned from the league. He should also be sued by a class action lawsuit by all the people who lost money from it.
Ban PED users too, i know theres too many but its their fault it went this far
If its true hes gone, if he would do it during the regular season he would probably do it in the playoffs too if given the chance which is scary because the stakes for both teams and gamblers is up
Pete Rose was banned for betting on HIMSELF. Porter is done. Having said that, the NBA made their bed when they started promoting gambling before, during and after games.
Facts and Pete Rose was betting the overs, you can’t guarantee the overs but you can damn sure guarantee the unders as a player.
@@Bejtsen 100%
@@Bejtsen they likely called the FBI in to investigate after the 1st irregularity on jontay props, so when it happened again, if jontay was sloppy, he is screwed. Silver hinting life time ban may indicate the FBI has overwhelming evidence.
Decisions driven by greed to capitalize off of others.
Banishment from the league makes sense. He’s a nobody, make an example of him. This is going to be a major problem in the league. Poor David Stern. RIP
The same David Stern who covered up the crooked ref issue in the NBA????
I mean Pete Rose was ban from baseball for gambling on games and he was a star so a 2 way player in the NBA is surely getting ban.
I disagree with you Ben for this one. If you are dirty with gambling your must be out of the league. Where I agree with you it must also apply to all those domestic abusers, and racist or dummy flat earthers.
He deserves to be banned idc what anyone says same with bridges these guys deseve max penalties
Ben I love your vids, but a perma ban is a sure fire way to ensure that others don’t do anything like this again. Sports betting is growing exponentially. And to show players, coaches, and teams alike that if you try betting on yourself thus taking away the integrity of the game you will be punished severely
Then LeBron should be investigated then. This is just a way for the NBA to move away from LeBron. Ja With the gun video etc. This is bullshit and the NBA is being run by a goof
It's not stopping the refs from manipulating games in relation to Vegas betting lines. LALs 40 plus fts, opponents 10-15 fts...
Permanent isn't necessary. Two years seems adequate and is an eternity to an athlete.
You don’t understand business, friend.
What happens if a top 50 or 25 player gets caught next? What do we do with their 10-40M contract? That team just loses a player for nothing?
Jontay being a two way scrub is what makes this easier to sweep away. The refs are still clearly betting on games. The investigation needs to be completed first so they can know exactly how deep he went.
@@suneelj93
But a top 25-50 player is making the bag and is way less likely to point shave.
Adam Silverman was the one that opened this Pandora’s Box for f-sakes.
nah man, you could always bet on nba games and props off shore. but with it legal, all the books can report to nba any irregularities since they have a busines relationship, as well the NBA calls in the FBI to investigate all irregularities when it is reported right away. the fact it happened twice means likely if jontay was sloppy they got the evidence they need. all the emails, phone records, computer history, financial history and financial transfers will all be looked at with jontay and people who won big to see if there are any connections.
Remember Ben, this is the NBA where if your going to abuse something.. it better just be your spouse
hahahaha, that's bad
@benrogers the nba lifetime ban isnt the worst thing for jontay porter, if they have evidence, he could be looking at a cell where Bubba has a 7 year party on his ass. He wont be able to fart when he gets out.
Funny thing is nba is promoting gambling
I disagree Ben. You can’t bet props on yourself knowing the outcome and guaranteeing you’re gonna cash out! Rumour has it ( saw it on another CZcams video), that Jontay Porter was making $2 million a month on his prop bets. If this is true, and he bet on himself, he should be banned!
This shouldn't even be a thing, why the hell is betting putting props on bench/depth players. Let's not even mention the potential that nba refs have been feeding "star" players freethrows at a collusion rate. Is Lebron betting on how many Freethrows he gets because he's flipped out for not receiving a call when he really didn't deserve 1.
This is serious disrespect to the organization, his teammates and fan base. It would be one thing if he bet high on himself, but he bet low knowing he would compromise the team. Even if he somehow remains in the nba, I can guarantee you he's never wearing a Raptors' jersey again.
@@illDefine1 The Raptors haven't released him... Garrett Temple was on the Raptors Show this morning saying just the opposite.
@@illDefine1 I'm disappointed in Porter but I'm annoyed at the league because there are Organizations out here sailing the SS Tanker season after season, we have the Lakers receiving 1000 more freethrows as a differential compared to the teams they play the last 2 years (GSW are a -650 freethrow over the same time, raps are +140) How can the NBA prove to me that Lebron and the Lakers aren't colluding with refs to bet on freethrows, or that Porter is worse than women beaters who get 2nd chances. The last player we had who got punished is Jalen Harris who was suspended for a full year for a Singular Drug offence. On a night where he styled on Luka and the mavs but raps lost because it was the tampa tank. The League doesn't care about crooked refs and star players betting, only scrubs who victimize the casinos when they set stupid Props on the fringe players
@@IceManLikeGervin There is a 0% chance he stays on Raptors if found guilty. You can trust rumors over common sense and historical precedence if you want but it won't reveal anything useful.
@@illDefine1 Did I say he would stay on the Raptors if he's found guilty? Has he been found guilty? Until then enjoy the process and stop making stuff up in order to come off as being correct. All the best.
If guilty, he should be banned for life. It's the precedent. If he can do it and take a fine, so can the top players. Jontay will be the poster child and the league will not lose a lot (in the big scheme of things) while making an emphatic point. This precedent needs to be set because gambling in the NBA in still in its infancy. Someone needed to take the bait. At least the league won't lose a rising star to make the point. It sucks, but he is an adult and made his own choices. The worst case scenario is Jontay will have to play in Europe or ... gulp ... live a normal life like the rest of us.
Ben you’re so wrong here. If he did this he should 100% be banned! How can you compare that to taking PEDS? 😂
If he's guilty dont defend this behaviour... you have to permanently ban him unfortunately... NBA need to keep the integrity and set the example
It's about maintaining the integrity of the game and the sports betting industry.
they need to make a big statement about a player cheating in order to draw attention away from the obvious corruption fans of all teams see every week from the refs.
@benrogers what jontay porter did, questions the integrity of the result in nba games. if its fixed no one will watch. Thats why they will make an example out of Jontay Porter because he is a nobody and it costs the NBA nothing if he is banned.
The BIGGER EXAMPLE you make out of Jontay with a very Stiff punishment, it sends the MESSAGE to other players in the future, you should not bet on nba games because this can happen to you. It is what it is.
Also they are not gonna ban jontay on circumstancial evidence. There were at least 2 incidents of jontay props irregularities. I am sure after the 1st irregularity they called the nba, and the nba called in the FBI to investigate. That means monitoring Jontay calls and emails, as well as checking his financial situation and seeing if there are any big deposits, or if he is sending money off shore or converting it to crypto.. So if Jontay did it a second time, they likely have evidence of sports betting if he was sloppy, cuz its likely the FBI was involved after the 1st incident. Silver hinting he may life time ban Jontay, may be a hint on the evidence the FBI has on the case.
How does banishment not fit… it’s a literal crime. Put him in jail. What a weird take.
Banishment sounds like a good discipline based on his actions
Think about it you have to put a lot of (effort )in to go on (a NBA court and be as ineffective as possible without anyone knowing) He’s stealing from the same company that gave him a chance and a payroll he’s selling his teammates out also by pretending to compete all for more money
At this point it’s about the principle that he stole from the companies
even if jontay gets a 1 season ban, he'll be 26 by the time he is eligible to play. i doubt any team would want to sign him at that point anyway...
@benrogers also If you are first offender caught in NBA betting as a player, you are likely to be made an Example of, as a deterence to other players in the future not to bet on nba games or nba player props. NBA just lucky Jontay is a nobody and it doesnt cost the league anything to life time ban him, compared to if a star player was caught.
look benrogers if it makes you feel better Jontay can still likely play in Shang Hai league, or even the Russian League. They probably give him bonuses if he throws games.
Its not ridiculous.
Jontay couldn't keep it in his pants and disrespected the raptors all the while.
You’re absolutely on the wrong side on this. You have to set a precedent, with gambling becoming more and more relevant, or else more people will be tempted to get involved. A ban is the only way to go.
A player trying not to win, in a team that is clearly trying not to win.
suspend him for a year if hes found guilty but banning him for life is super harsh
there is an unwritten rule dont be first, or you will be made an example of. its the situation jontay is in as the first potential gambling scandal that puts into question the integrity of nba games. So yes they will make an example of Jontay as a deterence to other players in the league on what can happen to them if they gamble on nba games.
Gambling and Sports betting with the inevitable corruption is an age old issue (The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County - Mark Twain). If Silver wants to address it make a rule for each and every player. It is easy to take Porter off the court but would be a whole other issue if it was a star player being "accused". Silver needs to keep his mouth shut until the investigation concludes. Guilty until proven innocent should be the standard but when the league office comments before the investigation has concluded it seems that they'd rather work off rumors than facts. Such is the world today.
"Guilty until proven innocent should be the standard" - ummm you mean innocent until proven guilty, right?
Also, issue I have had with this take of what if it was a star player doing it...problem is a Star Player wouldn't put their career on the line, bet the unders on everything and pull them selves out of the game early to make an extra buck.
Maybe Adam Silver should Investigate with the Refs as well, I’m pretty sure they bet too that’s y they f the game up..
Josh Giddy did things too BUT that has nothing to do with porter.
If he is guilty then big trouble because this is exactly to the game of basketball and all the gambling gaming industry multiplied by 32 teams
that's a lot of trouble
Yet players convicted of beating their wives or girlfriends get to return to the league. I guess it's more serious when you're gambling with people's money.
Does anyone know if D.J. Carton is actually injured? He's been out quite some time for an ankle sprain.
What Porter did IS worse than off the court stuff and IS worse than players taking PEDs. He intentionally played poorly or not at all because he bet on himself to play poorly or not at all. That's worse for the game than players taking PEDs because they want to win/be better.
worse than domestic abuse in front of one’s own children? nah that’s a wild take man
@@jakestar121 Worse for the game, not worse in life. Absolutely. Nobody ever gets banned for life due to off-court issues, domestic or otherwise on one-offs. Repeated drug offenders are the exception. But betting against yourself/your team and then intentionally playing poorly to win your bet? Nothing comes close to that.
respectfully… if he was betting on himself… in the NBA… yes he should never be allowed to play in the NBA again… thats the precedent that should be set otherwise it will just keep happening with other guys… this is the NBA we are talking about here… you need a certain level of professional integrity… and if you are betting on yourself and throwing games to make money… then you do not deserve to play basketball at the highest level… with that being said… i really hope the rumours are not true. but im not gonna sit here and say he doesn’t deserve the harshest punishment just because he is a raptor…
If he is found guilty, his career is over regardless of whether the league banishs him.
Bro, he did worse than Pete rose. He could have impacted games and caused the team lose. He should go to jail
Ben - reality check. Fandango and like major funders can’t afford this insider action. If it was Vegas, they would ban him from the world.
Old school rules: they would be breaking legs if they knew who was point shaving
I expected him to be banned. Looked like a great player unfortunately
Bridges is a worse CITIZEN than Jontay. Bridges can't be trusted out in the world. The league isn't the arbiter of good citizenship.
Unfortunately, Jontay IS worse for THE LEAGUE. He's a point shaver. Could the league allow him IN THE ARENA during a playoff game, let alone playing in one? They'd need three staffers taking notes on every interaction Jontay made to start investigating the contacts.
Hell, once Jontay is out the league is probably going to keep a pretty close, quiet eye on Michael. He better watch his butt if he goes into a slump.
Poor guy making half a million.
Our future is not Jontay. As long as raptors aren’t punished….
Could raptors be docked in draft?
Check the refs.
Ben, stop being a ridiculous homer. He was fixing games where his direct performance was the key to the bet. That is a lifetime ban. End of story. Ask Pete Rose. He is NOT a gambling addict which some are arguing because he ONLY bet on games HE was playing in. Gambling addicts bet on anything and everything.
Not excusing his alleged crime but perhaps Adam Silver should look at the saturation of advertising with gambling. It’s EVERYWHERE - not just ads - it is put into the broadcast by the announcers.
So promotion of gambling is equivalent to fixing games?
Advertising is the same as cheating?
@@lumpyrex007 lol right though...if guilty you could essentially call it stealing...gambling left the conversation when you're making something a 100% guaranteed.
I agree with Silver
He should be banned but allowing gambling in the NBA has destroyed it
It’s mathematically impossible to catch Memphis. They are two windows ahead , and have two less loses. With only two games to play for both us and Memphis. So we have locked up the sixth best odds. We need to keep this pick. Something tells me it will be the fourth pick. But I would be stoked to keep sixth. Because next year…. Our pick will be in the twenty’s. We will be the 6th seed next year. Mark my words. So we need lottery luck. This will be our last chance at a top six pick for the next 15 years
the raptors wont be good next year either. the team will have less talent than at start of year. all the veteran bench players will be gone also in boucher brown and gary trent jr replaced by 3 rookies. so you can easily see the raptors being worse next year. you get injuries from players fatigued from playing more in summer olympics, the raptors can be a bottom 4 team.
i can see jakob poeltl being traded in the summer also, to the raptors will be in another developmental year with possibly a rookie center they draft. jakob has said he doesnt want to be on a rebuilding team publicly twice. jakob wants to be on contenders at his age to try to win chips because he will be too old when raptors are ready to compete in 4 years.
I agree if he's found guilty, he should be banned from the league.
If he's found guilty he should be banned from the league... how are you defending the guy?
Has he been found guilty? Nope. The investigation sure is taking its sweet time... might be hard for them to find some factual evidential particulars over circumstantial evidence.
@@IceManLikeGervin
He was guilty once the story went public. Jontay is lucky to avoid criminal charges.
@@lumpyrex007 What world do you live in- the court of Public opinion? Media controlling you mind? The longer the investigation takes the better for Jontay. It's all circumstantial evidence unless phone records-texts, financial statements, Raptors team doctors not supporting Jontay's injury-illness, or the winners having a direct connection to Jontay can be made factual. The better question is why is DraftKings Sportsbook taking parlay bets on Jontay in the first place? If they won they wouldn't care. Perhaps some smart people noticed Jontay was injured and/or sick on pre game injury reports and made the Parlay bets accordingly... time will tell.
Yeah that's fair.
You are wrong. This is a major threat to sports and if everything is true, he should be banned from the league. As a raptor fan, I'm honestly embarrassed and want nothing to do with this guy.
Bruh, Ben, come on now how are you defending this? IF he is guilty, this is the worst type of betting on yourself and goes further than just the NBA. IF guilty, you could literally say Jontae stole over a million dollars from a company, PEDs is a lighter issue than what Jontae is being accused of.
Banishment from the league is inevitable anyways whether it's from the league itself or just from no coach or organization ever trusting him again. There is a big difference on betting the overs on yourself vs betting the unders and underperforming and claiming injury to pull your self out early...I would never trust starting this guy or playing him in the rotation no matter how good he becomes.
Wholeheartedly agree. This was a very very poor character move.
Raptors fans need to let Jontay go. He fucked up and he will pay for it. A lot of you people say “he wasn’t convicted or found guilty”. It doesn’t matter, he is done as a raptor 100%. Terrence Davis II wasn’t convicted when accused of domestic violence, yet Masai and Bobby shipped him out the first chance they got. The same will happen with Jontay.
That's different. Davis came to a settlement. His guilt/innocence was never determined or fully investigated. Porter doesn't have this option and will be fully investigated. While I'm almost certain he's guilty, he should not be penalized in the odd chance he's innocent.
They would not kick him out gor other addictions, they would send him to rehab etc. Why are they treating this addiction any different.
Its not an addiction issue if your betting the unders and underperforming and pulling your self out of the game...addiction to gambling is through the rush of hoping to win... IF guilty, the only thing Jontae was really gambling with at the time was his career and not the money he put down on the line...man straight up did a million dollar highway robbery, if guilty.
Jontay is lucky he isn't being charged.
It’s a crime, not an addiction.
@@Bejtsen And you are certified to say that? A gambling addiction can manifest itself in many forms.
@@IceManLikeGervin the thing Jontae was gambling with in this scenario was his career indirectly...some of you guys keep trying to make this a trigger word thing by using the term over and over again of he has a "gambling addiction"...lets call it how it is...man was making doo doo ass money for playing in the NBA (roughly 400k), while living in overpriced Toronto and figured out away how he could flip 80k to over 1M with a 100% win rate...that's not gambling.
This is the number one 'Long comment' vid. 😅
What a horrible take.
ok going to stop watching mid way.
you out of your mind bro
NBA is not a police or justice warrior, NBA's job is to maintain integrity the game.
They simply cannot keep player who fixed the game.
No one will ever trust the game anymore, They already have fans, EVEN A PLAYER! making money gesture, suggesting the game is fixed, imagine they keep player who has been gambling and fixing game?
Miles bridges, Ja Morant, or maybe even Josh Giddey, all had nothing to do with game itself... Although NBA will still take appropriate action because they do impact the "image" of the league.
He made millions.. he won either way!
Pete Rose
Banish
Maybe just ban him for 25 years lol 😆
A 2year suspension is fair
Ayee