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I love how everyone now just call's Mauga's cardiac overdrive the "Ha HAA!"
Lmao I love it because it IS kinda obnoxious when he laughs. Ha HAAAHH
KarQ still calls it *Cardiac Arrest*
its like sekke from black clover
i told my duo about the nickname Ha HAA and he burst out lauging for 1 minute straight
@@faxmineI'm pretty sure that's on purpose 😂
THEY NERF LUCIO BOOP BUT DIDN'T NERF MUAGA!? 💀💀
Didn't even give him his 20 damage back lol, they reverted all the buffs but not the nerfs.
Mauga isnt even that good rn
@@stixxuwu have you been playing?
Mauga is worse now, there's much stronger tanks now
@@polllingMauga is essentially banned by dva and sigma they block the whole duration if cardiac overdrive he can do nothing against them
Pharah is now vulnerable to a head shot with hanzo.
The Shimada will rise again, the sleeping dragon just need to wake up.
finaly my widow skills will be more useful in battle!
"Cmon crouching tiger dont hide that dragon!"
Lets buff pharah against anyone not tracer. Asked nobody
metal ranks: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"
doesn’t she have armor?
Josh golly, who would've thought tanks will become godzilla.
I love it
Whatever they gotta do for the one tank slot not to turn into the NO tank slot
Yep, a real mystery why the tanks are so unbalanced
pretty sure they know exactly what they doing and this patch shows that. pretty common tactics by company.
no way bro said josh golly
Lucio really out here catching strays
I don't want to go back when booping people would push them 2 feet away with the addition of less damage and more hp
@@Leuhim boop
Not really 😂 you legit couldn't play brawl tanks while Lucio was on the field before this patch
They could have put Lucio's damage back to 20 since he literally does 9 damage against armour now...
That is literally 55% less damage.
@@ElderSkorptanks dont go anywhere, they go like 2 feet.
I really don't think you or any high ranking player understand how much a menace Zarya is at the metal ranks and QP. If they don't coordinate against you, you're just a terminator gaining strength as you get close to your target to delete them. I like Zarya but that nerf was for the little guys.
It really is a problem. There needs to be a "stop shooting her bubble" voice line added to the callouts list
Just play Mauga into her I don’t think he’s too difficult for low ELO players
The counter to zarya is just to stop shooting her bubble, its really not that hard
@@ibraxiv-_-6653you're going make the rest of your team despise you.
On the other hand my experience has been that a ton of Zaryas think they're the terminator, get way too little kills while getting no tank value thus leaving everyone to die and nobody backing them up, then blames team. Either way, this nerf will temper Zarya to actually try to tank more which is great
Call me crazy, but as someone who works with musicians for one of my jobs, I thought of something about last patch, and this kinda confirms it. Those of you who've played an instrument can probably understand where I'm coming from.
Ever tried tuning your saxophone or trumpet or flute with a tuner and no matter what, you can't get it just right? It's flat, so you push in a little bit, but no matter if it was barely a nudge, all of a sudden you're sharp, so you try to pull out a fraction, only go to back to where you are. So, in frustration, you just pull all the way out, go flat as hell and WAY out of tune, and you just tune up from there. I think guitars and violins do this too, if I recall correctly.
Maybe that's what the dev team is doing? Clearly micro-buffs and micro-nerfs weren't working to balance the game so why not just absolutely go bazonga on the biggest issue (ie: tanks), break it completely, make it completely out of tune, and then just go from there to try to tune it properly. It's sure better than another season (two months, two or more patches) of rolling out a bunch of micro-adjustments that we've been doing over and over and over and over since Season 9 *and going practically nowhere*. After all, the definition of insanity is...(?)
Is a good one, and actually is a good idea (maybe)
Yea thats what it seems, ive also heard its easier to nerf a busted character than to try and buff a bad character
Hey that's not a bad idea
@@RaidenKunii It really is. In OW1 S2 (or S3, I forget) when Ana was released, she was so busted that she broke the game. Imagine giving a Lucio speed buff to whoever you nano boosted. Nano Rein was terrifying as hell. They had to do a bunch of nerfs to prevent the game from being so busted. (EDIT: This whole issue with giving speed is why I'm actually afraid of Space Ranger's release. I'm hoping they learned their lesson from that fiasco.)
So, when they released Sombra next, they made her completely underwhelming... and since nobody wanted to play a weak throw pick, Blizz got absolutely no data on her, what needed to be fixed, what were potential pain points, etc. It was impossible to balance her, because they had absolutely no idea where to begin and community feedback was basically "throw pick, lol". She had to get a complete rework in, I think Season 8 (of OW1) to bust her enough to even make her viable and hopefully get some data there. (I was salty over that, being an OG Sombra main playing with a Tracer and Winston friend who abused my healthpacks and gave me ult charge. Good ol' days...)
Pretty much every hero release I can think of (except for Lifeweaver) has been completely overtuned for that very reason. It really is easier to fix something when it's busted to the point of absurdity.
@@RaidenKuniimuch easier tye difference between nerfing mauga and buffing Life weaver are pretty apparent he was cracked on release then got nerfed down to a decent spot but life weaver took them like 6 seasons to make him work before he was at least decent but he still ain't that great 😂
Hey quick psa for blizzard, you can change others things than damage and health btw, ammo is a big thingbas well
They forgot this after mauga
They have no idea what they're doing. There are so many different things you can change yet they stick with health, damage and cooldowns
they only change bap's ammo i swear 😂
@@luigi64fanthey nerfed Mei ammo fairly recently, but yeah.
@@Whodadmanthey also played around genjis for a while
Devs: poops out one of the worst patches
Devs: realised they fucked up and poops out a hot fix
Flats: They a kind’a cooking
I highly disagree. The patch was a lot of fun except for mauga.
@@dantevicfun at the expense of literally every other role, just how the dps passive is “really fun” for dps players but miserable for tanks
@@hoosleepy I didn't play dps since the patch but I played tank and support amd was having a lot of fun.
@@dantevicthe patch made the game terrible for the rest of the roles. I 100% agree that DVA needs a nerf as well.
Fr this is like someone shitting on your floor, and then you congratulate them on cleaning up some of it (not all of it tho).
flats makes a video without saying "cooking": impossible
It is the current funny meme. You are going to see it everywhere.
@@Jartran72 "current" lmao
Good luck getting Twitch/TikTok realm interneters to grow a vocabulary.
@@Jartran72 it's annoying
@@Jartran72you think cooking is current 💀 get off CZcams shorts bro
hanzo mains finally getting a small break with this pharah nerf
Just the tiniest of breaks
Spamming arrows the size of bricks until they hit a phantom headshot on the Phara or Widow, classic
@@RRRRRRRRR33 the classic arrow toe-hit critical. My nemesis
If Hanzo hit a headshot on a Pharah he should be rewarded with a kill even if he spammed it because that's the Pharah's fault for running into it.
So they see Mauga ripping tanks to shreds and never dying and say “yeah that’s fine” but those god damn Lucio players were having to much fun
Mauga is literally useless against sigma and dva because his overdrive is so short now the whole duration can be blocked by so many things lol
@@truckmuncher8998 until DVA gets nerfed then it's back to mauga meta. Wooow 🎉🎉
@@truckmuncher8998 but if you want to play any other tank the enemy tank will swap Mauga 80% of the time
@@Blacky_ljb1,mauga isn't and won't be meta even if dva is nerfed. Sigma beats him as well and even rein
Yeah it’s almost like Mauga is exponentially easier for other tanks to deal with due to shortened Cardiac duration or something
As a dedicated dva main they really need to nerf her matrix back to what it was. The armor change was a lot. it just makes me feel like an asshole for playing her 😭😭 I mean the rest of the changes she got were okay I think, but the extra extra tankiness was too much
The devs need to just completely overhaul mauga almost, adjust the power in his guns and rework cardiac, his rush is fine
I think the rest of his kit is fine but there's physically no number tweaks they could do to get cardiac to be perfect as is it's gotta change if they wanna do anything notable with it if not it's always just gonna be either broken or trash
Fundamentally, an ability that instantly gives you and your entire team a percentage damage reduction AND lifesteal at the press of a normal cooldown is unbalancable. It will either not do enough to be significant or it will be too strong. There is no sweet spot.
"It's been three days" hits like the beginning of a zombie movie
I’m really surprised they didn’t nerf Dva. The armor change paired with the buff to matrix literally makes her unkillable if you don’t have the right dps on your team
The Illari nerf is kinda bad, cause it doesn't fix the problem of a well-placed pylon basically being free value with no counterplay and 100% uptime
All it's really gonna do is hurt the low elo players who place that shit on the middle of the ground in front of the enemy team
NO COUNTERPLAY say youre bad
It is annoying but you gotta have high damage against illari
Flank and destroy it goofball. Its so easy to counter.
@@CannedAnxietyWhat's the counterplay?
Imagine creating a hero that gets better with more skill. Crazy thought
5:00 As SOON as I heard him say froggy was going to be mad I knew there was a Lucio Boop Nerf. RIP.
Blizzard "cooking" is when they F everything up and do some tiny fixes to some of those F ups.
the ram change says it’s for nemesis form…. not staff mode
his health in his normal form went down to 475 I just played a game with him
Good spot. Flats probably just saw ‘base health/armour” and assumed it was referring to his default form.
@@Fry_that’s still not in the patch notes, the patch notes specifically say NEMESIS form health and armor reduced
@@spacejesus6581Do you get health with nemesis or is it just armour?
@@Tiosedanyou only get armor from nem form, 300, it said so last patch notes
Blizzard: Let's give dps a passive that reduces healing by 20% and not fix it.
*Tanks are OP*
Blizzard immediately after: Let's fix the tanks that aren't Mauga and throw in a random Lucio nerf.
Rammatra getting hit before Mauga is kinda crazy. They shouldn’t even be trying to salvage this 😂, just start working on 6V6 guys.
*Edit: I don’t think Mauga is the biggest threat out of all the tanks right now. I’m simply just worried for when Mauga’s current counters get nerfed to see where he ends up. Also Rammatra needed a nerf, it’s just that nobody was complaining about him, or at least not many people, yet so I found it surprising he was touched and not Mauga.*
Fuck 6v6
well still they gotta keep the masses busy for a few months while they do that
Play tank then, my 6v6 guy. 😂
Mauga is dogshit rn sigma and dva can block the whole duration of cardiac overdrive which basically bans him lmao
@@leedunkin3338 I would gladly play tank if 6v6 was a thing.
Now I only play tank when I hate myself more than usual
As a support main, the past 3 days have been shit to say the least. I haven't won a single game till today.
Hanzo can now one shot Pharah!!!!
like any hanzo will ever land a headshot on a pharah
@@thanaximA good one will, especially mid ult
Have they not see the clip of Boosted Bsstion with Window Vs Mauga?! 😭😭😭
Mauga can be blocked by so many people he almost never actually gets to use overdrive effectively sigma and dva essentially ban him
He’s very bad currently lmao stop feeding into the same bs being parroted by everyone
@@truckmuncher8998 nah get outta here with that BS. Just cause two tanks counter him doesn't mean you have to swap. The fact that he's able to survive other characters and strong ults and abilities is stupid. Stop defending counter swap.
His uptime was reduced by almost half. Hiding or disengaging when he Cardiacs turns him into a sitting duck for 12 whole seconds. He’s been so nerfed.
@@kio2960The point is that he didn't really die when cardiac was up before he wasn't gonna now it's his only real tanking ability
Your not supposed to face him head on when he has cardiac up you avoid him and once it's down then you pump damage but it's like people forgot this when the patch came out and now they're all tryna face tank him
Not supposed to face him head on!? He runs into the middle of my team with unstoppable speed then puts 2 miniguns up my tanks ass and we’re just pose to ignore that? wtf I can’t disengage if I wanted to stfu
Imagine if lucio boop had more knockback than quick melee
Give Lucio the Zen passive.
@@bigfudge2031 zen almost has same knockback as lucio now
what they needed to was revert all the changes except the change to tanks not getting hit as hard by the DPS passive and the armor change
U tellin me they fucking nerfed Ram just because he can TANK shots when he’s BLOCKING and CAN BARELY MOVE and CANNOT FIGHT but they DIDNT NERF FUCKING MAUGA OR HOG??? I’m gonna kms
The mauga buff was more of a power shift and it’s made him easier to play around. The Ram nerf was needed because he couldn’t be killed.
If u wanna go ez counter dva DM. If you want to outplay Mauga go sigma. Done.
Stop complaining about mauga and just play better lol
We all know how to counter play, but 100% leeching is insane for a character with Mauga's damage output. This is absolutely unhealthy for the game and will likely have consequences in the future.
Mauga needs to be reworked.
@@awesome-dp1oo even without his leeching abilities. A tank specialising on holding two buttons down on the biggest hit box to stay alive is terrible design. Especially for overwatch.
They didn't change rein, thank the lord. Finally playing tonight with these changes, ITS HAMMER TIME
Oh, wait till Frogger and Eskay find out about this 😭
Blizzard really went: Huh, the players are saying Mauga is too OP… it’s that damn frogs fault, again. LIKE HELLO?!?
Edit: the reply’s are so funny man, I’m talking about how funny it is that they have nerfed Lucio when he wasn’t ever mentioned before this fix patch. No one was out here saying: K hope they nerf Lució! I ain’t even gonna bother with you all, couldn’t be me. Stay safe tho!
Can't wait to see her video of boop testing and hopefully it's Mei again
The players are stupid and they shouldn't listen to them. Mauga got nerfed
Man mauga is a free fight and push😂 I really don't understand why people are saying he is op
Mauga is ez to kill now since his DR doesnt last long and its much more counterable now, pretty much every tank aside from ball can counter his insane E and even then he can just go behind a corner if he’s fast enough
you follow the crowd too easily. I knew from the start mauga was nerfed. dva, ram, queen, and zarya are/were the most concerning tank buffs out of all of them
Mauga would be really scary if his E was on a meter like D.Va's right click.
You actually cracked me up on the "ha HAA" "blublubLUBLuBLuBlUBLuB" 8:25
It's almost like it's being "balanced" by people who don't play the game and have any instinctual feel for what should and shouldn't be done
This video tells me flats never plays lucio. This basically puts it back to the pre patch boop on tanks which means literally no boop at all. So frustrating to perfectly execute a speed into a boop on a tank that’s wildly out of position and should be boop-able only to have them float like 3ft. So scummy
And yet Flat's ignored Pharah's boop getting buffed, is it okay for her to boop tanks but not Lucio??
All I care about is that extra lockout time. I'm not really trying to displace tanks. What used to piss me off is when a soldier (or any character without movement abilities) could use the air control to get back to land after being booped off a cliff.
@@epsilon1876i mean one is a right click, while the other is an ability on a ten second cooldown
@@user-uv6qu3wb5d the right click also has a cooldown
Tank passive reducing boops was lowered in the patch before this hotfix, which meant Lucio boop was STRONGER and they brought it back to where it was.
Thank you, have a good weekend as well flats
Boop specifically just needs to do less boop on tanks now, so there's ANOTHER passive for boop to do less on tanks, YIPPEE, MORE PASSIVES.
Damm 40 views in 40 second good on you flats
A hotfix patch notes on my birthday is blizzards gift to me
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday
@@rudyrocks0187 thank you
@@davidcenturion961 thank you
Happy birthday
Flats, I don’t play overwatch that much anymore, but I still keep coming back to your channel for updates. Your way of explaining things is really amazing and I always find you entertaining. ❤❤
Yesterday I was casually dropping 30+ elem games with less than 10 death on ramatra, this is coming from a bronze player who is used to dieing 17 time a game minimum. But the crazy thing is that it wasn't just yesterday I've kept it up. I don't know what this means for the future but I'm hopeing to climb the ranks with ramatra.
OH NO, SCARY MAUGA
NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM
Wtf. Ram nerf after 3 days? But we get mauga for months
I think the devs are trying to prevent it from being mauga meta like before and not let it drag on
@@sebastianrodriguez8992If they were trying to avoid mauga meta then they've already failed. He's inarguably top 3 in the meta right now. It's a rock paper scissors between sigma, mauga, and dva and occasionally Zarya shows up to say "gun, I win."
That timer to get to 10 minutes did fantastic.
Flats your dm impersonation is on point
blizzard is so lost it’s funny
As someone who played Heroes of The Storm (HoTS), this all feels familiar
wait wdym🧍
@@morevrai aka the game won’t survive long
OW2 is a trainwreck. That's what they mean. HoTS died, and so will OW2 unless they make more drastic changes like 6v6. They also need to FULLY replace the people making balance changes. Making changes purely based on winrates is absolutely moronic. I bought so many lootboxes for me AND my friends because I loved OW1, but I have only bought 1 battlepass for OW2. I ain't goin' down with this ship.
@@Aentismik remember when people said ow1 will die? that game somehow survived for 6 years as paid game with no update (beside balance and skin) in last 2 years since echo was released.
@@Aentismikthen leave. Such a weird comment lol
They really let Mauga get 100% lifesteal plus overheal and said "You know what. Ram a bit too tanky"
I don’t get why they’re so stern on changing health and dmg numbers. They can also change interactions between heroes, ammo capacity, area of effects, and so on. I’m not sure why they’re neglecting this
How does this affect lucioball gameplay?
the only important question here is
I am a frog on a piece of toast
so true
True Dat!
You again
Insane
I’m gonna eat you
The Mauga rant at the end was so understandable, almost like my soul was resonating with that rant.
You know everything is on fire when developers issue a balancing hotfix within a literal week.
5:18 doesnt change a single minor even small things she still cant be shotted and contested actually, no hiscan can reliably shot her without dying (if ou say widow thats okay but she is ass atm with a lot of map and again its 1 dps only
just a lil reminder that pharah actually has 65% winrate from diamond to gm its NOT a health problem its a we cant shot or kill her problem ( 65% for any competitive game is abysmally high )
This nerf is significant because I can't count the amount of times I've shot at a Pharah and she survived with 1 bar of hp left. Also Hanzo can one shot which is good
@@waterrr6332 it wont change that much pharah will sill be absolutly busted and kill from across the map without ever commiting
The Zarya nerf isnt too significant. She was buffed from 2.0 to 2.5 and then nerfed down to 2.25 meaning she still ended up with a 12.5% buff.
With a second longer cooldown
@@brown9671 that's true. Good point there
That was quick
frogger is going to love the lucio change :)
10% reduced knockback is not equal to a 10% soundwave nerf, thats not how numbers work....... 8M knockback - 50% = 4M knockback / 7.2 knockback - 40% = 4.32. Great, tanks move more, BUT you are booping DPS and Supports nearly a meter less. How is that ok? Why is Lucio paying the price for a passive change?
You’re right but you’re wrong, Overwatch calculates percentages with a set scale, so instead of reducing the existing number by 10% which is a massive nerf, they’re reducing 10% on the overall 0-100% scale they have for booping across the entire game
Because his CC has been insane for two seasons straight and he’s capable of dueling every single non-mobility Damage pick in the game with it easily?
@@dashieldmasta177then why aren't you climbing with Lucio?
@@dashieldmasta177there are characters who have that same cc but Lucio pays the price. Lucio has movement, that's why he can dual like that if the wanted to nerf boob then nerf the cool down.
@@dyamimc Not sure why that’s relative to the point, but that would be because I play Brig and Ana.
Maybe put Lucio's damage back to 20 since he literally does 9 damage against armour now...
That is literally 55% less damage.
Literally.
Nah man. That would be an extreme buff against squishies
@@user-uv6qu3wb5d Extreme is a strong word.
@@user-uv6qu3wb5d20 DAMAGE IS TOO MUCH?
I just noticed i seen ur reaction face in the thumbnail in other videos
This immediate hotfix patch feels like the OW team accidentally let an intern post the changes and now they got to quickly undo everything
Still waiting to hear from the devs about the big ban/suspension rollouts they were planning to deal with xim adapter cheaters on console. Seems like it's been a lot of radio silence on that front, but supposedly it was going to be this season, right?
They’re just so lost man, if you’re gonna nerf the CD on Zarya’s bubbles why even buff their HP in the first place, what was achieved between these two patches other than making the ability less flexible for the Zarya player but more annoying for the enemies when you’re actually trying to break her bubbles. It just removes strategy from both teams.
Least Obvious low rank player, Do you not know the meaning give and take? They nerf cooldown and buff hp, why would just nerf/buff hp/cooldown and not give anything in return. This patch made zarya very good whether your good or bad, so nerfing cooldowns adds more cooldown management. your complaining just to complain without even making a cohesive argument as to why its bad.
@@festiveastolfo735Except I literally made an argument as to how it effects the gameplay loop for both the Zarya player and the enemy players, but I guess you ignored that. If you’re not going to actually read what I’m saying you’re not worth arguing with.
Also:
you’re*
you’re*
@@festiveastolfo735 I will say not everything needs a give and take all the time. Thats how we got into the mess of balance for some heroes.
@@--Glory-- And whats your argument? Your saying Why buff zarya in the first place if your just gonna nerf another aspect. Do you not see how stupid it sounds, Zarya has been underpreforming for Easily 3-4 seasons and In season 9 with the health changes zaryas Bubble never got touched in response which shouldve happened. And in season 2 they gave these zarya the Exact same changes and she was hard Meta. Your saying its inflexible and does nothing when these changes legit are what shouldve happened in season 9, Buff bubble hp and nerf cooldowns. What do you think zarya gets charge off? Her bubble and what happens if bubble is on a low cooldown? She gets more charge so Nerf cooldown = less charge.
Instead of being Mr grammer police how about you give a decent LOGICAL argument as to WHY they are bad instead of saying a nonsensical point as to why its bad.
@@aerostrafe1075 Yes, Give and take dosent work all the time but In this situations it does, Buff bubble = More and longer charge, so in response nerf cooldown = Less charge
I can't believe OverWatch got a patch BEFORE i got power to even play it
this shit is never ending
hmmm almost like tuesday's patch was not the end of the world and they are making quick adjustments like they said they would, weird
thank you for saying this, legitimately. i feel like too many people are just looking for any excuse to trash the dev team
@@defaultdan7923 it's pretty out of control. i can understand some people that want 6v6 back but i don't understand how the community has gotten so intensely negative recently, as the game has been very fun to me lately
Was I the only one who thought this patch was kinda fun?
yes
No, I loved it
I had fun as well but blizzard ruined there game as always 💀
Sadly fun doesnt equal balanced, thats why in games like fortnite casuals and pro are always fighting with eachother and all the fun gets nerfed so it gets balanced in the competitive scene
Im sorry but having mauga ruin your games all the time isn't fun, how tf is that fun
Bro they gotta put the Hotfix team to do the main patches and put the main team to do intern stuff
Thank god I got the floor is lava achievement yesterday. Poor lucio catching strays for no reason.
They didn't do enough for me to reinstall the game
Not even close, this game is a mess
For us Lucio mains Where’s our compensation buff
GUVE US BACK 20 DAMAGE
Also ram trash in open queue now
it did confuse me that they didn’t buff lucio damage. if they’re going to nerf boop, may as well revert the change they did to his damage numbers too
so they looked at the patch and went "i know what doesnt need a nerf mauga!"
Lucio keeps catching strays
nerfed 2 tanks* SLIGHTLY
Zarya was fine she didn't need this
@@SuperLifestreamZarya was busted bro. I was winning every game with zarya
Most of them are surprisingly fine despite how they feel, a lot of tanks have a 50-51% win rate so the games arguably the most balanced it's been in a while
@@darkshaman9850!?
Damn that was OW needed
@@SuperLifestreambro what game were you playing😂
No mauga nerf?
Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive
im still scared of hog ngl, maybe even moreso than mauga
especially since zarya isnt gonna be able to keep them in check as well anymore
Frogger is in shambles rn
I'm not playing OW ever again. Glad to see that my decision to drop this game months ago, was a good decision. The only way I can watch OW gameplay is because I like Flats and his Reels/shorts are always welcome
Who
Ramattra was perfect as he was and idk why they changed him they should have changed mauga because he’s overpowered and they should have left everything how it was before they changed it in this tank patch notes and just buffed his ammo count and that’s it and he would be balanced and the ammo count should be 350 and that’s it no more
Mauga is in no way overpowered. He's much worse now but people don't understand how to play against him because people in low Elo just sit in the middle of point and try to face tank everything instead of, you know, running for 3 secs
Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive
Run to where? Some maps have bad natural cover to hide behind sometimes@@deathstroke2305
@@deathstroke2305 now he is and but before they buff him this season patch notes for tanks he was decent to play but now they change his cardiac overdrive and made it kinda difficult to kill him
@@truckmuncher8998 true and that’s y I liked about it when they buffed Dva and sigma this season for tanks
horror movie, MCs walking through woods, start seen.... heavy breathing "i think we lost... whatever that thing was...." tree branch crack " ... What was that!?"... Monster "HA HAAA" ... MC " RUNNN!"
I think it would be fun if they experimented with zarya where they try one patch where bubbling others provides more value less than personal, see how it plays out, then try the opposite mid season to see if one or either would be good for her
No mauga changes? Bruh
Mauga is fine though, if anything he's worse than before
>gets hard nerfed
>gets a little easier to play for average ELO
>REEEEEE NERF SAMOAN NOW
Please actually read patches
stay in plat. mauga is trash currently
@@crystalization6764Mauga isn’t good at all heck go Dva makes Mauga literally a free kill sigma and heck now Zarya can deal with him
@@DaffyTaffy93lmao, I actually won like 5 games as zarya vs mauga yesterday, and I never felt more relieved to fight him
Well they gave up quick…
Edit: No Mauga nerfs 🤨
gave up what? they said they'll hotfix outliers before the midseason patch was even released
Sigma and dva make him dogshit they block the whole duration of his overdrive
what is with people thinking mauga is broken, are you people playing the game?
Community: Hey, Mauga and DVA are completely broken rn.
Blizzard: Oh yeah we fix that for you.
Blizzard nerfs Lucio boop.
Community: !????
i can hear your os runescape in the background
Tank feels good ngl😶🌫️
From this patch u mean. What tanks you been rolling tho? 🤔
@@leedunkin3338 well funny enough my main tanks are actually ram and zarya. So maybe my bias is skewed. my win rates on those two were around 70 but I completely agree that they needed to be nerfed…They were absolutely insane…
But I found that sig dva Rein muaga and Winston are very playable too and overall I feel like counters swapping isn’t too bad. I think the tanks that are falling behind just very good in the meta right now
Overall, I think this is really good patch at first I was definitely skeptical though
Catch that nerf, Illari. Hell yea. I struggled to efficiently destroy that pylon, it was so hard.
How? Literally how lol. Even hiding it in the best spots doesn’t stop it from being an immobile healer. Just flank the enemy team lmao. As Illari you have to constantly move your pylon to behind your team because it’s an easy to spot easy to kill stationary healer.
@@user-br1ec6ib8n Well, it's hard to find and not always easy to see where the heals are coming from. Plus it has so much hp.
@@Ron742_the healing projectiles travel in a straight line to the player it’s healing. just follow it..
As a tank main this was def needed but I had my fun.
I would think for the passive they should do something like how warframe has theirs to bolster each characters kit and to possibly synergies with other people and other kits on the team
Not no role specific passives
I'm sad mauga wasn't nerfed
Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive
@@truckmuncher8998 me who plays queen
I was looking at win rates and this is the most balanced it's been in a while so I think it's safe to say that the devs are cooking despite complaints
I’m curious about what tomorrow’s hotfix will be like?
They nerfed Lucio boop but not pharahs Hail Mary launcher?
I will not give the devs any credit for anything. They made this mess, they get to clean it up -and they aren't finished yet.
Wrote this post on the Blizz forums:
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I think it’s just a bandaid on a broken skull. The damage is already done, the devs have shown their hand with the original patch and said “this is the vision we believe in”.
The correction hotfix has not come from a realization that their patch wasn’t the right direction. It has only come because of the immense backlash. Had there not been an uproar, they would not have patched it, ergo they don’t actually see the issue, they only see the resulting chaos caused by the issue.
I have said this a thousand times. The devs only know how to treat symptoms, they have zero clue how to actually address the core issues that are causing the symptoms in the first place.
This hotfix and their statement about it actually just makes me even more mad. They didn’t listen to the responses from the community, they only saw that the response was negative and reeled back a bit to appease the masses. Putting out the fire after you already let the building burn to the ground. Congratulations, you saved absolutely jack all. We are just left with the ashes of what we formerly used to call our home.
Alternative way to address the root cause:
1. Revert to 6v6 and scale back health pools by 30-40% depending on hero.
2. Minimize CC effectiveness, and homogenize ability cooldowns more as compensation (no crazy 14+ second utility).
3. Keep main crowd control focus on tanks, and limit overlapping sustain abilities (such as not having fortify + javelin on one hero, or shield + grasp, etc).
4. Scale back damage overall, especially on DPS that have been power crept.
5. Rework all hard immo abilities (like Lamp, Suzu) to be damage% mitigation based, not damage denial based.
6. Rework hard anti-heal abilities (like Nade, Rampage) to be healing% mitigation based, not healing denial based.
7. Rework abilities that have unhealthy approaches to counterplay (like perma Invis, LW Grip, etc) to be more directly communicated and have methods to play around in a more intuitive and naturally flowing manner (aka they shouldn’t hard interrupt the natural flow of the game).
8. Rework old 2CP maps into Hybrid assault maps, get that rose tinted nostalgia rolling agian.
9. Make a guild system built into the game UI itself, where people and groups can form teams and rosters and arrange/search for scrims and coaching, so the path between [casual - invested - pro] has more nuance and isn’t a hard wall.
10. Remove all role passives, and make passives individual hero-based, not role based.
And most importantly, actually act like you want this game to succeed and be the best it can be.
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So you want to condemn every mistake they do and not celebrate anything good they have done/could do? Then why are you here? It seems like you dislike the game now and forever with that kind of statement. Might be better off playing a different game rather then adding toxicity mindset to the community.
@@curtisnovotnik8341 YES I DO. I want to condemn every mistake that leads them away from what is healthy for the game. I gave them 2 years to figure out their shit and I'm done pulling punches. "professional game devs" my ass. Even bronze players know this patch was not it.
People dont think about Mauga's weaknesses being so large. Anti nade, sleep, defense matrix. Mauga is just really solid. Just annoying
Yeah but what happens when they have a Kiriko, Sombra, Bastion
@@RaidenKuniiYou go Bastion and Dva and you use sleep dart and nade separately.
3.25s on Dva matrix and we call it good?
Bro reinhardt swings boop enemies farther then lucio boop. Zen kick is stronger then lucio boop. WHY ARE WE NERFING LUCIO BOOP
Do you only play custom games where they intentionally nerf lucio because boop is still strong
Boop is still decent and has ability lockout
@@lastadmiral4432
no? Ask any lucio player. All of them will tell you how bad the knockback is. We literally only use it for combos. 4S cooldown for a 45 dmg + meele is a good combo. but thats not what we want. We wanna be able to BOOP people of the map that are super close to the edge almost begging to get booped. BUT WE CANT. THEY GO NOWHERE. AND 90% OF THE HEROS JUST COME BACK WITH MOBILITY. I understand knockback on heros like reinhardt. It almost felt ilegal how you were able to deny rein value by just brig whip shot or lucio boop him. But there are aton of Heros that DONT need boop reductions
@@EndlinglineSome tanks that don't really need it: Orisa, Doom, Ball, Mauga, Dva and Winston imo
For context on how busted mauga is rn:
I went sombra because my teammate was only hacking the tank for some mf reason before they swapped to reaper. Killed the mercy and ana, mauga ulted. It was a 1v5. I hacked and hit him with the rubix cube of doom, rein was swimging his hammer, reaper popped his ult killing the ashe and soldier, and our healers were trying to keep everyone up(lucio and lifeweaver). This mf was near death then popped his cardiac overdrive. I watched dumbfounded as he recovered most of his hp in just seconds then he lit us up. The mauga won a mf 1v5 and we lost the game last minute a few inches from the goal point. I was pissed when the mauga spammed ez in the chat.
Edit: Damn, we got the big brains in the comments saying the exact crap I said I did in my comment. Truly a skill issue that overwatch made mauga a monster to the point he ate a hack, rubix cube of doom, a fucking reaper ult, and a rein beating him with a hammer while our healers did their best to keep the juice coming.
Y'all musta left your brains at home cuz how TF do you lose to current maiga bros cheeks 😂
He is so bad it's hilarious if he popped cardiac why TF didn't rein just shield off his healing then nuke him? He's so easy to shut down rn at that point mauga SHOULD'VE said ez if y'all really threw that hard that you ENTIRE TEAM couldn't kill him supports and all 😂
@@sebastianrodriguez8992
Lil bro calm down with the emojis before I get all up in them cheeks
That wasn't Mauga being busted, that was just a skill issue. A shield+hack would've killed him when he used overdrive.
The problem with ramattra is his 75% damage reduction on top of having buffed armor and a nerfed DPS passive.
Change his reduction to 60% or 50%.
Just had a quick match game as junkerqueen and fought a Mauga and the Mf couldn’t die it was horrible but thankfully we won
Zero vews in 15 seconds flast fell off