Cartoon being in YA with Monster Kody during early Rollin 60s and Eight Tray conflict (pt. 4)
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- In this episode Cartoon from 53 Avalon Gangster Crips discusses his time in YTS (Youth Authority) with Monster Kody from Eight Tray Gangster Crips during the early years of the conflict of the Rollin 60s Crips.
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For the record in his book, Monster Kody never said Pretty Boy shot him. He said that the police came up to him and claimed Pretty Boy shot him to which he responded by saying he knew that Pretty Boy hadn't shot him. That was when he mentioned they were friends before the war. On Kev Mac he admitted who really shot him. Nowhere in the book Monster did he state Pretty Boy shot him.
See if we do not have correction, we will give stripes to people who did not do the work! Great Job!
Thank you! I said that on the live chat and in the comments. Yes, he gave cuz goverment name who shot him due to them mentioning heavy cats from sixties. Alex as a "journalist" really should not have said that bullshit. Pretty Boy was actually best friends with Kerwin. Pretty boy going around saying they was talking and gonna do this or that is a str8 up lie. Monster TIP didn't reconcile with him before he passed.
Yes are correct sir. Page 121 of the book.
I just posted this and had to scroll to see if anyone noticed the error 💯
Fred hill?
He said, "he was short; but he was crippin' tho...." had me rolling...
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
Great interview keep them coming
I wish there were more monster Kody interviews we're lucky for what Kev Mac gave us
I have more unseen footage.
@@shaunrizi7765 link??
The footage I am speaking of has yet to be published. The footage I have predates Social Media. We filmed all of that stuff before the internet was a thing. I will eventually put it out though.
RIP Unc Kody,I wanted to get him into the social media space how Cartoon is presently doing!
Would’ve been legendary 🖤
He would’ve COMPLETELY blew up!!
Would of well took of shame.. peace ✌️ from England
So much history is gone with Kody.
I think social media would have gave him a new purpose and he would be still here working on his CZcams channel or starting a podcast. It hurts me to know he is no longer here🤦🏿♂️
As much as I am against our peoples from the blocks going against each other, then and now, I love hearing one speak about times in it that wasn't /isn't all bad.
Man.. I wish we could get it together. ✊🏿
@@dannyplayer1605me to smh
My family from NH 90’s 8 treys killed my cousin back in 93’ on Mother’s Day so yeah it’s hard to come back from that pain but honestly I wish I could live to see N’s Treys of all sides nd Grooves and Damus’s get together against the real enemy and we know who that is y’all..💯
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
In the 80’s the murder rate in LA was around 500% higher than it is today
Glad to see Toon on a Platform!💯💯💯
Kody Scotts book was on fire . Good stuff . my condolences to his friends and family . monster had a good heart .
Yeah you get a name like monster by having a good heart.
Cartoon seems like a cool brother. A cripafied legend. A really Real one.
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
Great one
Great Interview
RIP MONSTER KODY!!!
Monster Kody was a real one.
I was shocked when I heard he died. I remember hearing his name somehow back in the mid 80's, and I am from NY. When I heard about his book, I had to buy it!!!
I read that book about 3 times.
Capping 😂
Same here MADNEW YORKER his name was Ringing here in Detroit. RIP Monster Kody.
You're slippin MadNew Yorker everyone knows that Sanyika Shakur passed away on 06/06/2021 in Oceanside, CA. his birth name was Kody Scott born on 11/13/1963 he died at 57 years old, if he was alive he would have been 59 going on 60.
a lot of that book was sensationalized....🙄
Monster kody is the true God father of the ny bloods facts they read 8trey and made 9trey
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
When I was a teen in the mid 80's, I briefly lived in 8'Tray hood. I graduated from La Salle Elementary school and went to Horace Mann Jr. High school for the 7th and 8th grade before moving back to the Low Bottoms. The 60's and 8'Trays would go at it so hard that the school would get shut down !
My step brother stayed with his mother over there after Pops passed in '86 and he eventually turned 8'Tray. After hearing of Monster's passing a few year ago, I sent my condolences to him. He sent me a few flicks they took together. I still have them in my phone now that I think about it. 🙏🏾
Can u post them?
@@gymtalkhouston3457
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
1) I don't do antisocial media.
2) I wouldn't know how. Lol.
My cousin, Kaboom took your bicycle from you at Mann! 😂
Bruh Toon a real one.. Salute to him. Hope he make it big and live his best life.
Amazing video.
Much respect to Alex and Toon!
PEACE 7
I'm not an authority on the subject but, he did properly state what he knows and remembers from back in the day about the history and evolution of the LA gangland "madness" and much of what he said is accurate and true!
He dropped some names I "personally" remember and/or am familiar with and I don't mean from the internet or CZcams!
This brotha is an O.G. LA gangland survivor and elder "statesman!"
Respect! 🤨
This is that Real Street TV content your fans are checking for , you chose to respond to my one F the police comment, I’ve been commenting and watching for years
salute big toon 💪💪💪💪
"he's short but he was the homie tho he was crippin" 😂
This brother made it out with his whole mind love hearing these stories
he say he dont drink or smoke. its amazing to me how these cats be stone cold sober, and will rip the life out your throat. incredible. we coulda used these niggas in Iraq.
@Omega_Dawg SuperQue F no! Iraq was senseless and some B.S.
I speak from first-hand experience.
@@triggatrevor1849 me too. Marines. Fallujah 2004. Anyway, umm, i served with some psychos out there and Toon could def get down on some sanctioned killin. Why be illegal. The streets on just as much bs the government on. Toss him a m240g fuck it. ✌🏾💨
@@Homeymoto I smoke so I don’t do those things u just talking bro
Idk I think the 70s produced some legendary niggas. Especially because they were Frontline warriors from the late 80s to the 90s, which was easily the worst years in L.A. or California period
i don't think he's saying there were no legends prior to his era, but that the largest concentration of heavy-hitters were from his era. To be fair, I've even heard older cats say that era was probably the most stomp down.
@@supgloserv that's what I'm saying. There were equal legends after. What their era does have are the originals, but I think the killers/soldiers that really took gang banging to another level were the ones born in the 70s. Because the late 80s and the 90s were the most treacherous eras
@@1punchusleep628 that 61-66 era were the original frontline shooters and fighters them 70s babies was crazy especially cause the crack era that’s when they was teens
When I was in Ventura the girls were separated already. I could see their unit from my cell though. We’d see a new girl come in and within a few days get pressed and be holding hands walking the yard lol
What's up Cuz it's your Cuz From Wilmington Delaware Eestcost big Kenny Aka Radio 💪✊
Met cartoon when I was 12 through my mom , he approached me while I was reading Kodys book "Monster"
excellent interviewer
Cartoon is on fire
😅
He knows his shit!!🙏💪
How long till part 5 drop? Been half a month since the last part dropped.
I want to see an interview with Dave East telling about his early Cripping days. From back when he first got on, like when he was 32, 33 years old or so.
Put on at 33 years old? 🥹😅😂🤣😭
@@northernjersey2479 Lol! Man, I'm saying!
@@anonymouslakernerd7214 lol Dave east a herb for that
@@elbowgang9715 For real.
He was 17
I was in Ventura back in 89… it was like a community college… it was the best of the Y.A.s😂
My dad went to Nelles, Paso, YTS etc and was shocked when I went to Ventura in 2009. I had to explain to him that all those facilities was closed and Ventura was mainline now 😅
I was there in 1988-91
@@anthoy0017 I was there in 1797
I wanted to go to Ventura, bad but after Norwalk they shot me str8 to Y.T.S...
Turn the Air Conditioner on !!! Dude is sweating like mad!
RIP Monsta!!!!! Gone never forgotten
Where's that shop, looks like you can get everything in such a small space. I bet there's a BBQ outside so you can get your hot food aswell 😂
Too Hard a Pueblo Legend
I was in Ventura in the early 90s. It was wild lol
I like how CToon makes sure he lets Alex know he is clueless on the politics for real lol
I peep tht tooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Alex correction , I haven't read Monster since the mid 90s but he never said that Pretty shot him he said that Pretty was accused of shooting him but was not the shooter.
Shout out to my boricua brother Alex and triple o.g Cartoon for keeping the Cali history alive ..return if possible Nipsey Hussle and Monster Kody ,Half Ounce we miss you brothers
Very good content. 🇺🇲 🇵🇷
@@brooklynites1448 hey my brother shout to Brooklyn and all my compays from New York ya tu sabe
@@dickhertz2277 Thanks Brother I appreciated it very much. 👍
"Classical (Pavlovian) conditioning can be done with earthworms, and operant (Skinnerian) conditioning can be conducted on rats and pigeons. But there is a third level of learning that pretty much only primates and humans are capable of, and that is what is called social learning.
This third level of learning, in its most powerful form, revolves primarily around the observation and imitation of a role model. Unlike operant conditioning, in social learning it is not essential that the learner be directly reinforced in order for learning to take place. What is important in social learning is to understand the characteristics that can lead to the selection of a specific individual as a role model.
The processes that make someone a desirable role model include:
• Vicarious reinforcement. You see the role model being reinforced in a manner that you can experience vicariously.
• Similarity to the learner. You perceive that the role model has a key trait that makes him/her similar to you.
• Social power. The role model has the power to reward (but does not necessarily do so).
• Status envy. You envy the role model's receipt of rewards from others."
[On Killing, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, 2009, Chapter 4]
@@brooklynites1448
Alex Alonzo is originally from NY.
Thas how you gon chop the interview up?!!! Awww naaaawwww!!!!!
It’s crazy that these folks names rung out and there was no social media
Avalons sounded like the crips to be cool with back then 😎
No crip on crip violence .... ah yes,
Sounds legit to me
Respect to Street TV and Toon, but all these platforms are missing the real questions we all wanna know. How you do dem ribs Uncle Toon🤔 indirect heat or nah🤔
thanks for tapping in.
thanks for watching
@@AlexAlonso101 all good 👍🏽
He didn't say pretty boy shot him, he said pretty boy was arrested for the shooting. He described the facial features of the 3 dudes, never said who shot him.
Well, by Kody saying that is basically saying that.
@@streetgangs no it’s not. I expect better of you Alonzo. Ain’t no “might as well”. He either said it or he didn’t. Monster said who shot him and he didn’t say Pretty Boy.
@Alphonso Morris you are correct...he named his shooter but you would have to watch the Monster Kody videos from Kev Mac Videos. I don't speak on names but witty Monster said "He messed up a good shirt!" Check it out there it's public knowledge now!
He said it was Snoop
He said pretty boy was arrested for it
he never said pretty boy did it
props to lonzo for this great iv respect cartoon and rip monster kody 🇮🇳❤️
thanks for tapping in.
thanks for watching
From India wow
Funny Alex thats your NYC roots,we never said squabble on the Beast Coast we said scrap....When I lived in Cali and heard squabble,Cali cats reminded me of the homies from down south.
89 east coast was the VERY FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD SET. Come on Alonzo u should know that
OG crippin fr even use his blue handkerchief with his left hand
Alonoz! Can you show cartoon that documentary "prison bound" and see if Cartoon remembers that ECC with the no front teeth??
#FoundationNation 💯💯🔥
i loved how pretty was the first speaker to eulogize him going home
Salute Alex and Toon… RIP Big Monsta Sanyika Shakur
appreciate you tapping. in.
appreciate you watching
@@AlexAlonso101 always
Cartoon a real one.
I remember the 92 Truce at South Park
ALL CARTOON JOINTS 🔥🔥
I was with this kat in ts . I was on m&n with lil fee and mac from 107 , monster kody , tafoga, aline from 53 back in the early 80's
I'm from St Louis and we have 53 AGC's here one of my good friends that I was locked up with in juvenile penitentiary with my guy R.I.P Lil Blue who was a AGC 53 but he had got killed walking out his house one day after he was released sad to say he didn't didn't make it to see 17yrs old. We were really close to one another before a blood killed him. He live right around the corner from the record studio called The Smith Center that DJ Quick showed in his just like Compton video when he was talking about St Louis. All of us who grew up in the life has lost so many loved ones and close comrades in the game
Wow!
As far as the Midwest goes, crips and bloods stop at the Mississippi River. STL has em, twin cities got em, but east of the river nah. Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee are on some other shit.
Foundation Nation
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That Jamaican flag 🎉
Good shit gangsta toon.
Toon definition of a real true OG knowledge on point
What knowledge? He ain't really spitting nothing y'all internet guys be so quick to validate anybody then come to find out they don't be legit.
@@nattiellis1645 but you’re literally an internet guy 😂 shut up
Hey Alex, he said on Kev Mac interview that it was Big Snoop Dogg from 60s, not Pretty Boy.
He said that because he realized he was wrong for saying Pretty Boy name in the first place. Go ask Pretty Boy how he felt about that.
@@streetgangs Yes he came clean to the world and wanted to get that off Pretty Boy’s jacket, so he called by name the person that did shot him
@@streetgangs Unless Big Snoop Dog is Fred Hill, it wasn’t Big Snoop that Shot Monster, it was Fred Hill, Monster said it on KEV Mac.
@@streetgangs Aye check this out, you didn't know my Big Homeboy. He ain't realize shit! Stop spreading this misinfo cuz you cuddled up with pretty boy. pretty boy is full of shit! Cuz should have never been allowed to come to my Big Homies funeral. Monster TIP did not reconcile with him before he passed. A lot of the G homies felt the same way but due to certain family issues, which I won't speak on, everything was cordial.
@@walterwaydanilo1 False. You knew Monster TIP personally to even be saying this nonsense? He said in his book Pretty Boy didn't shoot him, so he didn't have to getg a damn thing off his chest.
Man that Youth Authority sounded hell of fun. Lol
Lol in Y.A with his sister that’s crazy 😂 they was cropping for real
Cuz speakin big facts.... them niggaz from his era.... was real life wit the shyt
Monsters book read like a movie FRFR!!!
Real as ish
Being from out of town , going to LA, you can feel the hate in the air
I said that about Vegas it was a weird ass feeling like the devil was in town
@@phillybul215 Exact same feeling I got. If the devil exists, he lives in this city.
@@phillybul215 yeah Vegas gave me the same feeling..I didn’t enjoy myself even though we did a bunch of stuff
@@Adboss17 yeah me either bro and the weed was average I’m not going back
Now try New Orleans. Reeks of past murders and despair. That place is not the same after the hurricane
Big CARTOON in the House
Monster was always a Superstar crip #FamousGangBanger
Bad ass hat he got on
he met monster in 83🤣🤣
I picked up on that
How tall was Monster, I always thought he was like 6’2 for some reason, lol
Monster got them cheeks he said they slept in the cell together I caught that lil laugh he slipped up 😂😂😂😂 lmao
True
He sounds proud to be a f up his whole life 😂
@streettv will you be interviewing Jimel Barnes?
He needs to interview him cause jimel started the Avalon garden crips even monster Kody said he did and that he used to hold the gun for jimel as a youngin
Harlem banged on other Crips in 1984. I saw them get at an NHC by hollering the F word. Harlems would be on Hollywood and Highland in 1984 identifying and jumping on any Crip that wasn’t Harlem. Only Grape Street got a pass from them.
Harlems only ever pledged true allegiance to East Coast. They were allied with 60s & Raymond’s as well as grape streets. Every other Crip hood was food to them
Lol school yards been cool with Harlem since the beginning, originated off the godfather set.. something people don't talk or know about.. I doubt only the grapes was neutral,West LA
@@gregorybradley3806 right now they cooler than ever
Why streettv use that cracked out photo of kodi the disrespect
I Met Kody On Streets in Oceanside CA I Did Not!! Meet A Monster!! I Met a Good Person battling Himself Kody Will All WAYS BE LOVED AN MISSED AN REMEMBERED
Was he addicted at the time
I know Quincy aka Q-Bone and his nephew James, they live on 86th now, little Q is out 51st
The eyes never lie!! Look in OG eyes. Let me sho ‘em sumthin!!🥶
This saying a lot about the late Sanyika Shakur, I have his book over 30 years now, I am a 50s generation guy, from the mid west. This man was smart, and a Street Historian and a scholar, The late Stanley Williams, and Larry Hoover and Jeff Forte, are in a Supermax in Colorado. They are the founders of the Chicago gangs, thank you for speaking about this late warrior, and scholar too.
Most of these stories were fabricated with just enough truth to make them interesting
Exactly
The dude would get another year for getting someone pregnant.... Another year of not being a father.... it's ironic...
This guy voice sounds exactly like Game
Southern Cali black accent
I was in Palso Robles with u in 83 84😊
DO YOU HAVE A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH MONSTER KODY? OR AM I READING IT WRONG?
Interview Kev Mac 📺
This is the first time I’m hearing pretty boy shot him. Where did u get that from. To be honest kody told me himself it was snoop who shot long before the media knew. We use to write each other after the book came out. I mentioned to him that a guy u mentioned in the book (snoop) was in a dvd that was out coaching a football game between 60’s and another team. That’s when he told me who shot him.
💙🖤💪🏾
I thought Pretty Boy and Monster had shootouts but it was someone else who shot Monster…. someone whom he alluded to on his last interview.
That's not the original story
@@streetgangs Alonzo a hoe that think he knows shit that happened with him not there present 🤣
There was a time when we were all friends, Eight Tray's and Rollin' 60's. Then there was war between the two, in that order.
He got down wit my pops "too hard" frm 52 bishops pueblos
The host love him monster kody
I wonder what toon thinks of crip mac ?
I read the book twice. They even made a new book with the same name to "cover uo" or bury the original. But, that is cuz white people read books, not to keep it from blacks (I think less than 1% of these guys read the book, mostly cuz egoism, and being fat, diseased, & partially illiterate). So, to say he NEVER saw Monster fight is revealing. I like how he brandishes those symbols of HATE & VIOLENCE still. I guess not every man has what it takes to change his mind AND his life.
"Classical (Pavlovian) conditioning can be done with earthworms, and operant (Skinnerian) conditioning can be conducted on rats and pigeons. But there is a third level of learning that pretty much only primates and humans are capable of, and that is what is called social learning.
This third level of learning, in its most powerful form, revolves primarily around the observation and imitation of a role model. Unlike operant conditioning, in social learning it is not essential that the learner be directly reinforced in order for learning to take place. What is important in social learning is to understand the characteristics that can lead to the selection of a specific individual as a role model.
The processes that make someone a desirable role model include:
• Vicarious reinforcement. You see the role model being reinforced in a manner that you can experience vicariously.
• Similarity to the learner. You perceive that the role model has a key trait that makes him/her similar to you.
• Social power. The role model has the power to reward (but does not necessarily do so).
• Status envy. You envy the role model's receipt of rewards from others."
[On Killing, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, 2009, Chapter 4]
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Must not be any AC in there
Q bone my cousin..he in the bay..his sister lala with me right now listening to this shit..its somewhat accurate..im 52HGC
Foundation!!