The Oldest Viltrumite Creates A Monster Named Mark | Invincible Season 2
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After the Oldest Viltrumite in the Empire, Conquest, ends the life of Atom Eve right infront of Mark, our hero goes BERSERK as he and Conquest rush into eachother and Mark’s first CRASHES right through Conquests Golden arm actually impressing the beast, but Mark says no matter how much you enjoyed that, i’m going to enjoy this more. Conquest isn’t buying it as he grabs onto Mark, but Mark bites him in his shoulder and rips a chunk out of it as Conquests looks confused, and we see him start to worry for the first time that he may have created a monster. As Mark starts to get the better of Conquest he actually slams him into the ground and starts to pummel him with both of his arms, to the point where one of his arms completely breaks as we see Mark’s eyes full of hate while he screams DIE to conquest letting out all of the rage that he’s been building up this entire time. Conquest told Mark that just because he’s enraged that wouldn’t suddenly make Mark stronger than him, but what Conquest doesn’t understand at this moment is the power of Mark’s biology, as Humans and Viltrumites might be the most perfect match in the Universe, since Mark’s humanity gives him access to something that no Viltrumite has, and that would be adrenaline. When Mark is like this, he’s in an adrenaline rush which should let him push past his limits, but as he continues to bash down on conquest, behind him, Eve’s body begins to glow.
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Season 2 of Invincible promises an intriguing plot, with hints from the original comics by Robert Kirkman. Expect the Sequids' scheme to conquer Earth, Titan's crime organization expansion, and Allen's cosmic adventures. Meanwhile, Mark faces challenges with Cecil's methods and the return of Omni-Man to space, potentially reuniting with the Viltrumites. The introduction of Angstrom Levy, a multidimensional villain, seems central to the plot, as indicated by the Season 2 trailer's revelations. This season will delve into multiverse dynamics, introducing Evil Mark and a team of new, yet imperfect, superheroes. With Angstrom Levy as the arch-nemesis, expect an epic clash of powers and dimensions.
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I love the idea that the simple chemical adrenaline in our brain can make mark the most powerdul person
Drugs son drugs can make u superman
@@version1.27 fr fr, become superman
Its the same with humans, only viltrumites are stronger
It's a hell of a thing in short
Adrenaline is some powerful stuff
"Think Conquest, think! Did you really think I'd let you walk away from this?"
Trying to point at temples with two broken arms 👈👉
@@rapodaca3360I love you 👈🏻😢👉🏻
Bro they better do something like that in the show
Think Conquest, think! 👉😡👈
Haha oh lordy I had a good chuckle
That’s actually a really cool and reasonable way to explain why his human DNA is important. Conquest was probably confused as shit when he said being mad doesn’t make you stronger while Mark was actually getting stronger from the adrenaline rush
Saiyan Human hybrids !
@@DaniTheHero Funnily enough the Saiyan type power boost in a human x viltrumite combo comes from the human portion. Humans are also depicted in media most often as having more intense and volatile emotions compared to other species, which is probably why the human x saiyan hybrids in DB can access super saiyan and its evolved forms earlier in life and easier in general. Just cool connections
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This was sort of less explored later on, but was definetely the case with Gohan and the early parts of the show.
His Human genetic, made him be filled with emotions that caused his power to spike (Or diminish). And when he got angry, it was bye bye to the oppossing side.
It's interesting that they took a different approach with this in Invincible. It's not the emotions that cause this spike in strengh, but the simple biological response of Adrenaline.
Fun fact: people who do strength training are able to access more of their strength, so Viltrumites who have centuries of training most likely wouldn't get any stronger from adrenaline and they might fight worse because due to being blinded by rage. Since Mark is so young he hasn't pushed near his limits, rage makes him a lot stronger, when he gets older he might be able to access all of his strength without adrenaline, or losing his rage boost because his viltrumite dna has taken over.
@@DaniTheHero Anger is directly related the production of adrenaline, so it’s kind of the same both ways because since Gohan has human in him it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say he has adrenaline too. The real difference is that the actual strength comes from the adrenaline in Invincible and in DB the main power spike comes from the emotions themselves. That could be what you meant tho maybe i just misunderstood
“Getting angry can’t suddenly make you stronger!”
And then his anger suddenly made him stronger
Hulk would like to meet you.
@@abdulazimnaushad Malnourished meth heads that throw cops 2x their size are a good example of adrenaline putting in the lords work.
And some how palpatine returns
*Receiving call from Goku*
Gohan has joined the chat
Holy shit! The idea of Viltrumites not having something as simple as adrenaline is SUCH GOOD WRITING! My god. It’s the perfect way to explain these rage power ups that can sometimes not make sense in certain stories.
Yeah..... Good writing.....
@@Juancr2006wdym “…”
@@Juancr2006 I think your cat might be laying on the period button on your keyboard
Stop swearings plsss
@@Harbinger_Raven yeah, I meant to say that, the fact viltrumites not having adrenaline is a little convenient
Atom Eve: **dies**
Her body: oh no! Anyway...
do you mean Anyway she is Imortall so she will be fine.
@@nanaiahmanoj6774 despite her husband's persona, she's the one who's really... In-
*[TITLE CARD]*
@@nanaiahmanoj6774technically she has to be at the brink of death to activate those powers. Not at death. So it isn’t like if I destroy her brain she is going to regenerate
@@sugardady1019 No, she was dead dead, and her power literally reset her to the previous working version. Even when she died of natural causes she reset to prime eve.
@@rainbow_vader😂😂😂😂
Viltrumites don't have adrenaline? That's very interesting, actually. And seems like a good, sound way of explaining the "power of humanity" in a sound and logical way, while still keeping emotions like care, compassion and love central to the point
Viltrumites don't fight eachother which means they barely find beings equal to them or that can even tickle them so they have very little to worry about hence why they never feel fear or adrenaline.
Makes sense too, we evolved adrenaline to cope with dangerous situations. Viltrumites are the dangerous situation so they’d have no need for adrenaline.
@@goomyliaplayz7911wrong, they literally fought each other to get "the most powerful" viltrumites
@@mateokjitagonzalez4773viltrumites don't fight each other since then. It only happened with Omni man's betrayal
The thing that makes us human is also present in most animals on Earth.
Holy shit, adrenaline explains EVERYTHING. Because Earth's Mamals are comparatively weak and very energy hungry, we need to ration out our energy storage for when we really need it. Thus, our brain's abimity to literally pump us full of pain-dulling, strength enhancing combat stims!
Correction by @Jeff-ez3xd : It’s not necessarily about us being energy hungry, it more about our bodies not being able to handle it that’s why mark broke his arm because he was using all of his strength at that time
And we all heard and seen examples of a adrenaline rush that saves ones life or someone close
So that’s why every time there’s a half human hybrid in fiction they’re strong asf or have the highest potential….
Ex: Gohan
It’s not necessarily about us being energy hungry, it more about our bodies not being able to handle it that’s why mark broke his arm because he was using all of his strength at that time
Humans have a limiter placed on our bodies by our brain telling us how much muscle we can use without sustaining damage, which is at most 50% of your overall strength, adrenaline removes that limit and that's all it really does
Adrenaline has helped people push over cars that were crushing someone and meant that our ancestors could keep running cause that leopard ain't gonna stop running so once you tucker it out you can run it back and bam free meal and pelt once you get a big rock
Now that I think about it
Viltrumites fight all the time as it’s natural for them but all that fighting and overconfidence may have took away their ability to have adrenaline
I think that viltrumites dont have adrenaline naturally
@@iago2182 fr tho in nature it’s natural for a ability trade
Maybe their adrenaline for regeneration or something
@@Space-Spider2093adrenaline for the evolutionary skills i guess
@@giovannicervantes2053 probably
They physiologically don’t have the glands for adrenaline production. They aren’t modified humans, they’re not human in any way other than semblance.
I like the theory that there's some aspects of the other race left in a viltrumite hybrid,
Which would be interesting if it's viltrumite + Kryptonian
That’s just a viltrumite with weaknesses
well Viltrumite Kruptonian Hybreads would be overpowerfull
@@nanaiahmanoj6774 Viltrumites are stronger than kryptonians so this is just a weak kryptonian with weaknesses
@@creativeusername3408pfffft- Thats funny lol. Kryptunians have higher stats and feats than viltrumites. Can a Viltrumite punch a hole in reality? Didn't think so
@@Maximum_Effort69I don't understand you people trying to power scale literally everything, even characters from different shows
Oh i love that adrenaline explanation, every scifi thing try to explain humans having like a "drive" its always something abstract always "they have the indomitable human spirit" this is actually a satisfying explanation that actually makes sense
Humans have that dawg in 'em
HFY
Honestly the “indomitable human spirit” was getting to be a old circle jerk but this just refreshes it in a take that humans are so emotionally driven that REAL hate, passion or desperation in a situation can drive them to new heights thanks to the real world adrenaline rush. Beings like Viltrumite don’t have it due to their stoic nature but with a human hybrid, it’s a complete power boost in bad situations
actually a cool concept for an alien species, a race so evolved and perfect it lost the need for adrenaline, so mixing that with a human only gives it a power boost when in an adrenaline rush that’s fucking awesome
Or it never had adrenaline
yes they never had Adrenaline but Mark Greyson is a Hybread so he can become far stronger than pure-blooded viltrumites if he becomes very Angry @@theflyingdutchmen5841
@@theflyingdutchmen5841Probably, if they've been their home worlds apex predator from early on they would never have needed to develop it
@@NostalgicOccultist yeah but it is an compleetly diverant planet it is posible the creatures on their planet never had adrenaline.
@@theflyingdutchmen5841he literally agreed with you and yet you felt the need to repeat yourself… are you mentally challenged or just can’t read very well, serious question.
Now I see why Viltrumites are so calm even while destroying planets. Nolan against Thraxans, Lucan and the others while beating Allen before his power buff, Anissa beating Mark, or Kregg handling over Nolan's duty to Mark - they always acted like it was a day to day job.
Nolan went against the Flaxans. He mated with a Thraxan
Considering that humans can only access roughly 60% of our muscles true strength we can estimate that a viltrimite is limited to this as well and is why they don’t shatter their arms with a single punch and such so if mark’s adrenaline rush disabled the biological muscle inhibitors he would be a force to be feared it’s like having two gorillas fighting each other but one is given a lifetime amount of testosterone and steroids
Basically Mark is on Overtime
JJK refrence???
@@ganeshwaarmahendran4825middle aged worker reference??
Maximum overtime
"Did you really think getting angreier makes you stronger"
Mark :my body says yes
Bros in his Teen Gohan arc
He's exactly what they should have done in the log run in DBZ😂
That’s actually such a cool explanation.
It does make sense that Viltrumites don't have adrenalin in a weird way
It doesn’t, they are their own predator or danger. It doesn’t make sense that somewhere in their fighting stages they would not develop some kind of alternative hormone similar to adrenalin.
@@x_sama5560 It does if they've been top dog for millions of years with no other natural enemies to give them need of it
@@x_sama5560they also trained to not have many emotion responses
@@x_sama5560 Besides whose to say that having adrenaline is a natural default in evolution. Heck Allan the Alien doesn't have a nose so smell could be a completely foreign concept to him.
@@x_sama5560evolution often works like an ability exhange. You don't usually gain new traits you usually exhange them. For example gaining lungs but losing the ability to breathe underwater. It's possible they had adrenal glands that were exchanged for one of the other traits viltrumites have. That or they just never evolved adrenal glands due to them being apex predators since day one.
I like the concept that mixing anything with human DNA makes them infinitely stronger and scarier
Literally like Gohan.
That adrenaline rush idea is such good writing 🤌
Oh, that's true! Viltrumites don't have adrenaline generation because they had close to none predators in their homeplanet, they didn't needed to have it. But humans have fought against all the predators of the world, even when being weaker than every single one of them, which made them develop a way to break their limits, adrenaline. Mark has the power of a viltrumite and the unbreakable willpower of a human. It's the best of the Predator that has always been and the Prey that became the Predator.
thanks for explaining that for me
well they were no natural Predators on their home world but in Another Galazixy Nolan discovered a Natural Predator that can eat Viltrumites For breakfast they are called Rognarrs they look like Dinosaurs and are very strong and have teeth and claws that can go through an Viltrumites Tough skin easily and kill them but they not too Smart
"We humans have something you don't... the ability to change,"
-Someone
Sounds like something from Steven Universe
Conquest had a look of regret 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Conquest: oldest viltrumite, centuries of fighting experience
Hoomans: drugs in our brain🤫🧏♂️🧏♂️
This is a better version of Gohan being stronger because he’s emotions since he’s half human. Interesting parallel.
You do know that gohan is half human to right
Don't ever mention a dragon ball character again
@@space_warrior2613i mean i kindaaa agree both are half human meaning they are much more gentle and kind while pure blood sayians/viltrumites are not as good
@@space_warrior2613 yeah he said “since he’s half human” 🧐
@@legend5144Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Krillin, Trunks, Android 18, Broly, Freeza, Beers, Whis, Xeno, Champa, Vadis, Hit, Cell, Jiren, Android 17, Bulma, Chi Chi, Gohan, Goten, Pan, Roshi....should I stop?
"I CAN SEE THE FUTURE AND YOU DONT LIVE TO SEE TOMORROW" goes so hard
I swear, humans always got something the aliens need to become the perfect warrior
We need to compensate for something, we have no sharp fangs or super strength, no claws, can't fly, have soft skin with no fur, poor eyesight, weak hearing, poor sense of smell...
@@jrag1000we win through the power of chemistry I guess 😂
Funny because eve is actually the immortal one.
Immortal is killable.
Bulletproof is invincible.
And invincible is just bulletproof and strong.
Idk bulletproof seems pretty vincible
Eve is NOT immortal, squish her head and there is nothing that she could do ... she need her brain intact to contol her power after she unlocks her limiter.
Didn’t bulletproof come really close to during multiple times😂? He’s nowhere near the alternative marks that came to fuck shit up.
Different kind of immortality.
Bulletproof is not invincible. Just durable But that old “Brit” side-character is fully invincible.
Still, being fully invincible is kinda useless if you don’t have sufficient super strength and/or mobility/teleportation - enemy can just bury you under rubble and that is it, you are done….. or toss you into space… good luck being invincible frozen meatball.
it actually makes sense that viltrumites don’t have adrenaline. Since they are a warrior race, combat is probably their default state. even if they had adrenaline, it was either: disadvantageous since they would lose their ability to think logically and waste a ton of energy on one fight out of many; or vestigial/neutral, since viltrumites are so used to brutal combat a sufficient stimulus for them to have a fight or flight reaction probably doesn’t even exist.
If they are in a perpetual fight or fight state, adrenaline could be a waste of energy and maybe a cause of some disease. Adrenaline lets us use extra energy that we have stored when we have to fight of flight. So, yeah, that would make an angry Mark a much more powerful since he is using extra energy, something that Viltrumites wouldn't be able to do. Mark could literally get beyond his 100% as a viltrumite.
After you started covering invincible, I binge read the whole thing 😂. Have fun with this really really long and complicated story 🍍
Adrenaline, the thing that pulled some people through insane situations
I'm going to say this again, viltrumites are so much cooler and far more interesting than any kryptonians
There just sayens but kriptonion lite. What makes them interesting is the nature of the story.
I mean ye they had a lot more to them then kryponoians
@@hellblaze10Tbh they’re more interesting than both sayians and kryptonians. They don’t reach levels of powercreep that make the story boring
I mean kryptonian don't have superpowers on their home planet theyer just regular super intelligent beings
Kriptonians can only live for 200 years if they are exposed to yellow sun radition@@hellblaze10
Adrenaline in real life is actually one hell of a drug. It seriously can feel like a superpower
cant wait for this to be animated i got chills when mark was like "you guys are fucking dead" this probably gonna be a hype asf moment
Weirdly sounds like why gohan and trunks had moments like this they were half human
Yooo big facts! I didn’t even think of it that way ngl
You know you got a mf mad when they get to biting yo ass 😂😂
He didn't know what to do, Eve got him like Superman and Lois.
Wait viltramits dont have adrenaline dam that is an op combo then
Yup this is gohan's boost , we can confirm that viltrumites = sayians
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@@hieuangduy4190 you ruined it bro 🥲
Literally the reason Gohan was able to go SSJ2
I mean humans can punch stronger than we can handle, but its usually hidden because our brain restricts us, adrenaline is just the unlocking of that restriction, so mark right now is unlocking his 100% currently
I know, it's better that way, we might end up punching ourselves out of lack of self-control.
@@jrag1000no it's more because if we use all of our strength for more than a short burst, we would destroy our own bodies. A human without their brain limiting them can do stuff like lifting cars despite not being in top physical condition. And you know how some people hurt themselves by lifting heavy things? That would happen all the time if we didn't have our brain to limit us
Just like saiyans and humans, Viltrumites and humans is a great mix for that extra rush of power. Nice.
I liked how they showed it in the show. Whenever he yelled, got angry and raged you could tell his powers, though mediocre at that point, got significantly stronger. So just imagine how strong he'd be at full strength capacity but also with adrenaline
TIL: Viltrumites don't have adrenaline, a chemical present in the brain of, as far as I know, every brain-having animal on Earth.
You do not need to have it, if you are nigh-invincible.
Although I suppose if Vultramites were to grow up with those alien-dinos/ragnars over thousand of generations, they would also develop adrenaline as well….
But they did not, since Ragnars are not native to their habitat, and other than Ragnar there are virtually no species to feasibly contest then.
@@kingol4801 To be fair, ragnars couldn't exist on the vilrumites planets in the first place because the reason ragnars even exist in the first place is due to the gravity of their planet that forced them to adapt with very strong muscles.
That would be the coolest shota thing they can do for invincible, the adrenaline and human emotions he feels making him stronger than any Viltrumite he encounters (eventually)
Problem like actual humans and shown in the comic, once you start to use all your strength like that your body will just rip you apart until your bones are dust. That why we only ever use 40% of our strength, but also means every human is a ticking time bomb.
Superman with the Adrenaline of a human and the emotions of a Teenager is deadly😂
Superman has adrenaline actually.
On their home planet (Krypton) Kryptonians exist literally on Kryptonite Ore under Red Sun. They are de-powered and very vincible/vulnerable, like humans, on their home world.
So, Kryptonians did evolve with danger-responses, such as adrenaline and fear.
Ah yes the power of friendship is the strongest ability among humans
Nah he just stopped holding back
3 words idomitable human spirit
this is every guys understanding of a street fight, "i see red bro ur not stopping me" but with mark its actually true
It’s so simple and it makes so much sense. I love how it’s not an ass pull of a power up like space magic or something dumb and something that as us humans can feasibly understand and comprehend.
I thought everyone had adrenaline in this 😅
Looks like the viltrumites don't have adrenaline like humans do
@@HungLe-ig1ij that's what he said 🤷🏽♂️ but idk I always taught adrenaline is something that's always there in every fiction 🤷🏽♂️
@@nxthvn914 adrenaline js a specific chemical created by 2 glands in the body.
Humans(most if not all mammals) evolved this trait for emergencies.
Makes sense that non earth species would've followed a different evolutionary path.
@@justifano7046 ik but since viltrumites for the most part are very identical to human just able to tap into smart atoms and live longer I thought they would have practically identical evolution paths
@@nxthvn914 there are being in the universe that look like human but they can't be more different maybe viltrumites deleted those gland from thier body thorugh evolution
Mark really saw the ○ button appear over Conquest's head
Reading these panels was a fucking amazing experience. I can’t wait for the show to turn it into the emotional blood and gore roller coaster it is if done right.
Bro, that's actually a dope difference in feats. Had no idea idea Vultrumites don't have adrenaline
Viltrumites don’t have adrenaline?
No. The human body has a limit on how fast and strong a person is so that you won’t damage anything vital when overexerting yourself. It’s why there are stories of mothers being able to flip over cars to save their children. Humans are actually twice as strong when the brain recognizes that your life is in danger. Viltrumites have evolved to always be at the absolute peak of their power at all times.
@@Chiefteeth1 appreciate u bro
@@Chiefteeth1Everything is enhanced, reaction time, speed, endurance, strength, agility, basically we turn into Superhuman for a few seconds.
Man nothing feels better then an adrenaline rush
Conquest: Why wont you die?!
Mark: Adrenaline rush sir. It pushes my body to its limit in response to emotional trauma.
Damn the conquest arc is really nostalgic, ive fineshed reading the comic wayback on 2020 during the pandemic one lf the best comics ive read
Adrenaline is an Emergency chemical
And if viltramites either never had one or it was bread out.
But on Earth, not to be confused with Urath.
Creatures needed that Emergency boost to survive.
As the fight continues and mark gets more and more dmg his Adrenaline will only keep him in there, conquest doesn't have this passive and will eventually fall
Adrenaline is one hell of a (naturally occurring in your brain as well) drug lol. It’s why I’m so dangerous when I have a violent psychotic attack or my PTSD activates my fight or flight. combined with rage issues, mental illness, and brain damage), yeah you don’t wanna mess with me. Mark is relatable lol.
Contain your evil, Doctor
"you don't wanna mess with me, I'm psychologically unstable"
It's not something you should be proud of. 🤦♂️
also, you sound cringe.
wtf are you talking about all of sudden you hear marks half human nature comes out and you saying all this bs gtfo of here man you thought nothing of his human side until y’all heard adrenaline when the human body has many factors that make us push beyond our limits
Ha 😂. I challenger I see
A* idk why yt won't let me see my replies and other replies. It says 3 replies but I only see the Doctor one.
mark finally accessed the indomitable human spirit!!!!
Conquest: You can't just become angry and then stronger
Mark, Goku, Doomguy, and Kratos: *coughs*
There is a reason why you should never give a person nothing to lose.
I read that 5 times.
What?
@@jrag1000 Spelling mistake
Bro has that indominable human spirit in him 💀
I absolutely love that idea with the adrenaline that’s so cool
Cannot wait to eventually hear Steven Yeun voice this scene. I just know im gonna get chills when he starts pummeling Conquest
"Adreanaline wasnt a myth"
-invade alen
Conquest is one character I haven't seen on the show but I still find him to be my favorite, idk why.
Its always "stop holding back" till they found out why
The indomitable human spirit for the win again
The alien thought adrenaline was a myth
That would be adrenaline… that such a cold statement
Not only the adrenaline, but the fact that Mark is constantly holding his own strength back to be able to function on Earth
Mark turning into a cannibal when full of rage would be funny😂
I love that mark lives forever and so does eve that’s just perfect
I don't think he will live forever, he'll just live for a realllllllyyyyyy long while.
Bro got a rage boost
Mark biting him is perfect to me because in a fight EVERYTHING goes
This is gonna be the greatest fucking thing ever animated
Can i just say, was late to the season 2 party, but holy fucking shit. There was a tragic glee in me when angstrom was pummeled to paste. The last scream before mark puts him down gave me chills.
You push "passed" your limits. "Past" is any time before the present
Steven Yun is about to MURDER this scene when it comes out bro. He’s so good.
Thw fact that conquest was smiling all the way throigh is crazy and he fesrs thragg
Viltrumite anger and Human adrenaline the deadliest combo.
Mark showing conquest the indomitable human spirit
Mark summoned his inner Sinister/Cannibal Invincible for that Shoulder Bite
Adrenaline + Viltrumite physiology = Deadly combo
Ooh it's like the sayians lol with humans too I like that when they write that in stories not just aliens being them. Them and humans intertwined and make something even better too is amazing to me.
You see conquest,you aren’t dealing with average viltumite anymore…
Man said "I can see the future and you will not live to see tomorrow" and meant every single word
Bro got a Kaioken rage boost. I can’t wait to see this animated.
honestly it makes sense really. there have been a few cases where under a adrenaline rush people have been known to do normally impossible things for a short amount of time like say hold up a small car that was about to crush someone working under it after it fell off the blocks for a few seconds and such like that. adding that to a viltrumite can be pretty deadly.
This show has made people talk about adrenaline like never!
Basically a hybrid saiyan who benefits from the emotions of being half human
Mark was tapping into the power of the Dark Side.
"getting angry won't make you stronger"
Adrenaline, literally designed to be a burst of instant strength:
One other thing Mark has that Viltrumites don't is pure emotional hate that only Humans can have.
when you love someone, and i mean REALLY love them, you will truly be invincible, not just physically, but even mentally, when you confront their assailants.
Human + alien combo gotta be one of the most op combos in fiction