The best 160cc motorcycle is? | PowerDrift
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- This was a tough one to make. The Apache RTR 160 4V was our favourite for a long long time till the N160 came our way. But that’s not where the 160cc story ended. Recently, the Xtreme 160R got the 4V dose and it feels better than ever. Which one should you really go for? Varun Painter, Karan Singh and Ananya Awasthi get together for a discussion.
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0:00-2:40 - Intro
2:41-3:29 - Xtreme 160 4V - Powertrain
3:30-4:17 Pulsar N160 - Powertrain
4:18-4:55 Apache RTR 160 4V - Powertrain
4:56-6:11 Looks - PD Opinion!
6:12-7:05 Xtreme 160 4V - Ride Quality
7:06-7:33 N160 - Ride Quality
7:34-8:13 RTR 160 4V - Ride Quality
8:14-8:41 N160 - Ergonomics
8:42-9:09 RTR 1604V - Ergonomics
9:10-9:29 Xtreme 160R - Ergonomics
9:30-10:12 N160 - Handling
10:13-10:59 Xtreme 160R - Handling
11:00-11:36 RTR 160 4V - Handling
11:37-11:54 N160 - Brakes
11:55-12:19 RTR 160 4V - Brakes
12:20-12:48 Xtreme 160R - Brakes
12:49-13:45 Features
13:46-18:37 Conclusion
18:38-19:29 Bloopers
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N160 feels like the best overall package. Perfect Mix of Sport and Practicality with eleganmt looks. The Design will age well.
With powerful led headlights too ❤
But end up with 2 valve engine
The fact that RTR still beats in power and driving dynamics after such long time shows how ahead tvs was
Apache rtr bikes are worst looking bikes of india..
This comment shows that you didn't have any knowledge about bikes looks apache is far better than pulsar in looks only N series is good looking in pulsar family otherwise all a re worst compared to apache and what about acceleration,features sich outdated motorcycles😂@@souvikdas4518
@@souvikdas4518 Nice still people are buying them like crazy... If you don't like it it's fine.
Don't generalise it please. ✌🏼
@@souvikdas4518 right
And one thing to add, majority of people compare MT with Apache 160/200s just because they're more performance oriented bikes than anything else in the class and my intent is that, TVS makes amazing bikes despite having less experience compared to hero and bajaj for that matter. So i have huge respect towards TVS and I just love Apache ❤
Apache better than MT anyday.. Pillion will just fly in the air in MT 😂
@@ducatimultistradav4850 🤣🤣 yes true...also pillion comfort is way better in Apache
@@ducatimultistradav4850roypuo 🎉
क्यू
Apache is always king
Racing DNA ❤❤❤
Apaches are the worst looking bikes in india.. they just don't know, how to design a machine.. even the rtr310 is also ugly..
One common good thing is all 3 are Made in India 😎, and my choice is N160 and RTR 4v😊
Jo foreign company hai wo bhi tax deti hi hai India ko,koi free fokut me yaaha AA ke business ni kr rhi hai
160cc konsi foreign bike aagayi? Foreign markets use 390cc above bikes only
@@shahan484Honda and Yamaha are foreign brands dude and they have 150-160cc bikes in India.
Good to see all 3 bikes are of our Indian manufacturers.
exactly, that's the best part.
"Big🥉"
Technically they are not.
I have 15 years old Unicorn, bought with my first salary. Renewed it this year and will ride for another 5 years, no doubt. Full tank gives me a range of 550KMs, carries my whole family of 4. I transported whole electrical and plumbing materials for my house, transports groceries, rations etc etc etc and never got me stuck in the middle of roads. What more one needs? Hey koyi jo itna muje pyar karne waala? ❤
Unicorn is the daddy of the segment, full respect
What's your opinion of newer Honda 150-160 cc .
I too want a reliable bike. Don't mind spending big bucks on maintenance once in a while.
But I want quality parts that won't break down frequently once replaced.
My pulsars shock absorber was replaced recently on it malfunction in 2 month.
@@pranayjadhav3242 Because of the new BS norms the companies are forced to make more lighter bikes to satisfy our “kitna deti hey?” mentality. As a result, the longevity of the plastics and other materials have gone down. Don’t expect new bikes of any companies to last longer. Old ones are the true daddy.
That too came with a monoshock back then
😢
It's been almost 2.5 years since I bought Xtreme 160R and so far, I'm loving it. It's not the best if you have a pillion often accompanying you, but for solo rides, I love it. The maintenance is easy on the pocket, gives me 45-48Kmpl even with some hard revving.
umm why bro? is pillion seat too short?
@@rishi4828 stiff
You can modifie seat
Thanks for the 18 minutes of not settling a debate!
Its so close at the top. Its one of the most competitive classes in India.
Yes, it is!!
Guys you are fighting like us....still there is no answer
@@powerdriftofficial it would have been nice and proper if you have considered the mileage and pillion comfort as well. Any idea about figures about mileage which you can share with us?which is most economical among the three?
I think they said that all the bikes are too close and that's a good thing. You need to test ride and see what appeals the most to you. You won't be wrong if you choose any of the three. I think you might want to consider other parameters like servicing centre distance, etc.
Bought N160, 7 months ago. And I am satisfied with the bike, it provides overall a good package.
Pros:-
1.) Best in class brakes
2.) Clutch is super smooth
3.) I'm getting a mileage of around 45 - 50, which I consider to be good.
4.) Meter console provides you almost all the information you need.
5.) Most powerful headlights in 160 cc segment.
Cons:-
1.)The bike sometimes feels noisy, it's maybe the chain noise.
2.) This bike has a problem of false neutral, although it's rare but is irritating.
3.) It doesn't have bluetooth connectivity, but I think it's of no use and many people who have this feature in their bike doesn't actually use it.
xtreme 160r is light wt, reliable, faster , best mileage , usd forks are looking best those who want can go to it
I will choose the xtreme, because it has the best low speed ride quality.others two are having firm ride quality, plus it is the best looking among three bikes.
That's a good enough reason sure.
tbh looks are subjective and i like xtreme looks but i feel the black verson of n160 looks better than xtreme
I don’t like the headlight n the rear seat of the xtreme
@@afzalkhan7419same
Are we gonna get a similar one on 200 cc segment? With the updated motorcycles.
The rear seat of xtream is extremely uncomfortable… Btw one thing about N160 that no one talks about is that the rear tyre throws insane amount of mud towards the rider and pillion in wet roads.
Bajaj should have provided a better designed mud guard for the rear tyre.
There's a single seat version too. And the N, we felt it was okay. Probably our gear told a different story.
that single seat version is improve comfortable
It is comfortable. I have purchased xtream 4v last month ❤❤
I own an N160 and I have to admit, N 160 is a hassle to clean and the lower parts get dirty very quickly.
I try to avoid riding it during rain in city primarily because of its weight but on highways it's a gem in any condition
It's comfortable, try mt15 pillion once you'll realise how much better it is
Happy to see Hero is giving competition in this segment too
I'm using a hornet 160R for about a year now, it's 7 yrs old and competed with the Gixxer and ns160 but still it feels like something from a different era compared to these new 160s
Bro what's milege and top speed of hornet 160
Im really looking forward to ride the Xtreme 4v after it arrives in Nepal, Possibly in the national auto show coming in next couple of weeks. The 2v actually barely sold in Nepal. Ive seen like 2 till now but that may have been due to the import ban a while back as well. But this one seems like it will definitely sell a lot here. Just looks like a well rounded bike, has the best look in the segment imo, the ease of having good and cheap service network, has the performance, lightest among them all as well, seems like the rider triangle is also really good for city riding and I am really liking how wide the handlebars are.
But if the karizma is good, I might just wait for that bike over the 160. Lets see how the unveiling goes tomorrow. I cant believe hero is making me excited about their bike launches, who would have thought.
Hero's really stepping up their game. Waiting for the Karizma to be released here.
@@RYSVmusic man it looks so cool. Especially in that yellow.
In Nepal, there is a dealership issue currently between NGM and Hero India with ongoing court case. I highly doubt any new hero bike will be launched here until this gets resolved.
@@anashuddin4850 just found out about this as well. Really unfortunate. If CG gets the rights then I hope the price goes down.
I am too waiting for a hero; the xpulse 2023 version to launch in Nepal
Which brand indicators are installed in apache , pls tell me
The new update of Xtreme is just ❤
which engine is best????? And which bike is long last?? Also, compare with honda X-blade.....
N160 doesn't feel as smooth as claimed, feels stressed and noisy at mid rpms....apache feels far more relaxed, even the gearbox is slick
Takes time and mileage for the engine to open up. Also it is kind of the pulsar experience people like in it
Koi na bhai chalana seekh
Budge cruiser me bajaj Avenger k aalawa koi bike ane wali ya hai btaiye???pls
2004 UG1 Pulsar 9.57kW at 8500 rpm.
No a boasting figure by today's standards, but was the Envious machine between the legs with its behenoth 18ls. Love my Pulsar to the core, my Spitfire ❤
I had 2004 model Pulsar 180 DTS-i Royal Blue.
@@struggler5960 was denied that lest I ride aggressive and dash. It's another story that I had many accidents with the 150 too. Strong body of Pulsar and strong bones :) but these are true gems and start of a new breed.
At the end She says "Have that too!!" When asked about LED indicator for Apache its not there may be she got confused over there, but i prefer Apache over anything else anyday!! ❤ RTR 🔥
May be they installed from market
@@AnubhavRanjanVideos yep you're correct 💯 (But it voids warranty 🤐😢)
Do you own apache 1604v. I need review on engine and build quality. Will it last 10 yrs easily.
@@AnubhavRanjanVideos its been 4 years with my bike 35k kms done BS6- So far pretty great experience i have. Only thing is you should fine a good service centre to tale care of it and you should take care of chain every 500kms. And tyre pressure every week.
@@mahidharreddy8286 how about seat comfort for ladies pillion. Does engine has any noise problem ?
Power of "Made in India" brands ❤
@powerdrift What about the mileage , we were waiting to see this comparison as well in this video. Any mileage figures between these three bikes please ?
The ride modes in the rtr are surprisingly functional. There is a clear difference in how the motorcycle behaves when you use them. Its more responsive in sports mode and very tame in urban mode. It rides like a race machine in sports mode and a regular 150cc commuter in urban mode.
I guess the LED indicators on the apache it's retrofitted. Sadly stock only gets bulb type regular units.
What is the RTR miles in cite ride ?
if only hero made the rear of the Xtreme a little bit sharper 😟 that chunky rear part gives a bad overall look
N160 is just made for best commuter bike with sporty design
Xtreme with dual chennal abs is unbeatable ❤
no dual abs
Just when I needed it as I am looking for next purchase in this category. Thanks PD, you never disappoint.
Great to hear!
what did you get, or planning to get?
Loved the comparison video. Great work PD.
Also, it's good to see a female bike reviewer on this channel.
We need comparo review bw both 4V..
My heart says Xtreme and mind says RTR. A clear comparison would help make our decision easy.
@powerdrift Much awaited compression review finally came.. one little correction, Tvs Apache RTR160 4v deos not came with led indicators
What’s the point of buying amazing or best bike, when they don’t offer good after sales service, having good bike not having good service is not worth, u guys will suggest how it preforms handles features and VFM, but even buyers should know about after sales also right, what’s your take on that team @power drift?
By the way as usual great video❤
But please do make video on after sales also, cuz most them regret after buying good bike without proper service
Hi Team
Good comparison.. I need your suggestion..
I am planning to buy a bike with good pillion comfort (mom will sit one side). My budget is 1.7lac. My physique is 5.7 height and 85kg weight. Please suggest me a good bike, good build quality, mileage is 45km/l and less maintenance.
I have little bit confusion in between Pulsar N160, TVS Apache RTR 160 4V / 2V
Waiting for your reply sir..
Top variant Extreme looks nice, gives big bike look
Wish it had dual channel ABS at that price point
So where is the FZ in this? cos 155 cc?
19:06 മലയാളം ❤
:D :D :D :D :D
Why old apache rtr 160 4v ??? When they update it. I thought you guys will using new updated bike in market. I will be looking forward to see a new video with new updated bikes.
This was the best comparison video of these three bikes.
I could see the hard work behind each part of the video.
Well done guys. The video was a treat to watch.
Especially the lighthearted energy you three portray.
Since you guys couldn't reach a verdict, which is quite understandable,
My personal weakness would be the Extreme.
Which is why I am about to buy it.
great video. covers all aspect in a fun way.
Glad you liked it!
how is NS160?
Even the PD can't decide one..that means the segment is getting better and better..Can you please tell me which one is best for long distance touring..as my budget can't stretch for more than 160 cc
Xtreme
I think you should add pilion comfort also with these budget segment bikes.
n 160
Any day lots of love for RTR❤
🤜❤🤛
RTRs are the worst looking bikes of india.
@@souvikdas4518 கோமாளி😂
@@souvikdas4518 har jagah ek hi comment karna band kar samajh gaye ki tujhe nhi pasand RTR
2011 and 2018 Cbz xtremes were my favourite
The only reason I won't go with the N160 is because of the Bajaj engine. Which will turn rough very soon. Won't be as reliable as the TVS. idk about the Hero. But only the pre-2010 Bajaj bikes have been good in my house. The later ones are poor
Bro after ktm takeover Bajaj has become very reliable....I my self a ns owner and very much pleased
An addition of gps would be great and a little drop in price would be kind of buyable
Purchased unicorn 160 ❤❤❤ no tension... Trusted machine, good milega, family bike, durable, strong, good build quality, good paint quality and good reliability ❤fully satisfied
Really can i buy n160 new version or old?
Unicorn is a good bike but it's features doesn't match its price
14:01 is that BMC Software in the background?
Its best video to learn " Group discussion" in interview rounds
If I have to choose one of these 3, I'll go with N160 because its just better package overall. & Kinda feels more mature.
Test ride all three and say this.
It's actually the worst "package" in terms of specs
worst one terruble choice
@@hellostranger3836 may be for you, not for me.
Mujhe v pasand hai 😊 pr mere he gaon k 5 logo ne black colour wala le liya hai 1 mahine k andr... Ab uspe itna interest nahi aa raha 😂
my friend (F250 Singel ABS) recently had a crash due to lack of dual abs , rear tire locked and couldn't control in the muddy road
i wish bajaj launched F250 with dual channel abs at the first place in 2021
i strongly suggest everyone to have dual channel abs on their motorcycle even if its just 160cc
used to own ns160, duke 200, mt15,pulsar 180, but rtr 1604v is best suited for me, handling sitting position is best for a short rider like. except the low end torque everything else suits me. all other bikes had better low end torque and i didn't need to constantly switch gears. but changing gears is what i like about bike thats why scooty is a big no for me
Rtr 160 4v, 200, 310 are also worst looking bikes in india too..
@@souvikdas4518bro what's your problem with tvs? I've seen you in most comments doing the same.rtr. 310 has the best rear design in the entire segment
@@Raghu155_ front design of rtrs are the problem for me.. I just hate those design.. tvs has made rtrs good, in terms of overall package except the design.. how can someone approve those design?? Even hf deluxe, splendor looks are far better than rtrs..
Engine (power) + good looks = a bike.. for me..
@@Raghu155_ good catch
@@souvikdas4518then just shut up and don't buy RTR. Why are you crying over the comments. I think the Apache has made you cry in the past.
xtreme front end looks very good but the back was too bad 😅
I felt same bro
Best video
I have ever seen on bike comparison
Very well concept
Thank you so much guys
N160 looks fast and youthful , xtreme looks really beautiful to me. Apache is kinda dull now. It has become very boring now..earlier it was game changing..now nah!
It has aged for sure. But aged well.
After watching this video I am more confused which one to buy
I like RTR look and handling seat comfort
Looks sucks bro.... But handling and comfort is better than two
Immediately consult an eye specialist if you like the looks of rtr series..
160 4v, 200, even 310 sucks when it come to looks.. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@souvikdas4518 design is subjective and if you hate it then it's your problem.
N160 dual channel abs❤
Any day RTR for Long ride and you can cruise over 80KMPH the whole day you will never regret it.
RTRs are the worst looking bikes in india.
@@souvikdas4518dude stop crying you can't stop people from buying that bike.
N160 because of dual channel abs and looks lit
I wish Kalin Bhaiya and Guddu Pandit were found together again. Along with Xtreme 160r 4v and RTR 160 4v. Is this possible Powerdrift ?
Remake not possible :D
@@powerdriftofficial Atleast just between Xtreme 160r 4V and Apache RTR 160 4V . 4 valve head versus 4 valve head. Atleast Varun and Rohan . Is this possible Powerdrift?
Yes we need comparo review bw both 4V..
My heart says Xtreme and mind says RTR. A clear comparison would help make our decision easy.
@@sharmadamodar4u Exactly. Ye sab log Pulsar N160 k pichhe pade hai yaar
Pls compare Hornet 2.0 obd2 & xtreme 160R 4V
Need a drag/comparison between MT-15 vs Xtreme160. So much of a claim for being the best 160cc, hard to digest that MT has been ignored out here!!!
Honestly, got bored of the apaches design language. Its kinda outdated to me. Sorry
I absolutely hate the design , it is so ugly and boring and it also has some reliability issues and services centre are bad though
Hated the design when it first came out in the form of the Apache 200 with that funny looking exhaust, still hate it now.
Couldn't agree more! Ppl oly prefer it because of ns😂
I remember you commenting Hornet was going to eat the Xtreme for breakfast. Any update on that or is it still trying to eat 😬😂
@@vithulsmangalath It never came 🤷🏽♂️ in the first place. The 3.0 did it??
When reviewing Cars Karan is like whole adult but when Reviewing Bikes he brings out the stubborn child in him proving the point
I love apaches look but usd forks and dual channel abs agar apaches may hota imagine that so asom
Dual abs is just for features in160.I wish only old dual barrel exhaust and at least 100 sectio front tyre in legendary Apache 160 4v👍🤘♥️🇮🇳🙏
N160 deserve better sales badly 😢
LOVE ❤ APACHE 160 4V and Specially Blue 💙 🥰.
Would love a drag race to be conducted between these three bikes
A Tip to powerdrift vehicle inventory team.
Please wash the bikes before you present them.
One is too dirty and the other is clean. Thats leaves a certain subconscious bias in the viewers' minds. Not everyone can see past the dirt if u know what i mean XD.
Either present them equally dirty or all clean, the latter is easier to achieve. Lopve you guys just a honest feedback, love ur presenting style keep it up guys.
N160 is❤ overall package with style
Xtreme is good but not pillion comfort.....i avoid always tvs apache my previous 160 was shit😁
Dual ABS❤❤❤❤ safety first
Add n160 engine with ns makes much much sense and unbeaten combination
Plz make a video on 200cc bikes😊
I think all 3 should driven all the 3 motorcycles and then given your inputs on each of the parameters
Agree
How did these guys know that I am looking for thisssss😮😢
Hero Xtreme 160r Vs Bajaj Pulsar N160 vs Tvs Apache 160 4v , which one is better.
What about honda hornet, sp 160, unicorn xblade?
Honda need to update the hornet. Sone says it has gear box issue some are saying less power
Pulsar looks the best of all😍😍wow bajaj.. That design is next level.. Nd engine is also very smooth
The lady is a good addition, lilterally Karan is in evry PD vid these days😂 appreciate the hardwork bro
hey thank you bro! Is this Carlos Sainz's burner account btw
@@carswithkaran kek😅
Among these three hero xtreme 160r 4v is currently the best 160cc motorcycle.
Earlier it was apache 1604v until the xtreme came with 4 valves.....
😂Bhai n160 is better
For drag races xtream is good but for overall performance it is still Apache but it lacks in the braking area.
N160 mileage?
What about mileage?? We are talking commuter segment!
Apche rtr 160 4v special edition 2 years running...no major issues so far.. except for side stand cut off engine...its always malfunctioning had to remove.
Planned to buy n160 🔥 but finally ended up in its younger brother p150 ❤️. Smooth as butter 🔥
Sorry to tell but u will be having very bad I mean worst service ever😢😢 as owner of bajaj bike I have experienced from 2 years
@@srivatsa5843 Theres nothing like that bro. Also every other service centre has issues. Some people have beef with Yamaha, some TVS , Some Royal Enfield, Some Hero. You cannot single out Bajaj.
Bajaj bikes are the most sold in India hence more people complain, but as soon as they move to a different brand the story remains similar or gets worse.
I had the best experience with Bajaj, they listen to what i have to say. Cant sayt the same for the TVS scooter i own and the Yamaha R15v4 I used to own.
At different places its different behavior. The Bajaj showroom where I bought my bike are extremely understanding and co operative. Its the only one in the city and its good.
At the same time I have had issues with both the Yamaha sowrooms in the city least co operative, Only treat u good before purchase and once the deed is signed they stopped giving a fck. Whatever complaint I go with insted of fixing they tried to convince me that the issues are normal. (My indicator switch was acting weird after a few days of purchase, but instead of fixing it they tell me pressing it harder fixes the issue. The my handle bar became stiff in months they did some greasing but its not fixed. Fed up and sold my Beautiful Yamaha as i got a good offer from my relative)
Service it depends bro, which agency treats you best. When u visit a showroom for a bike walk back to the service center and ask around with some customers how is the after sales and all only then buy ur bike.
Hi @akshay, was curious what made you choose p150 over n160?
I feel like P150 will not age well and Bajaj will discontinue it just like AS150 you should've gone with N
@@Croco_D N150 came up, P150 left!
Going on a ride to BIC in order to watch motogp on my 2015 RTR form Ajmer, Rajasthan. Anyone planning join or meet?
I am convinced for the hero Xtreme
Please give the power drift playlist 😅
Which is best ....?
I guess nobody talks about the rtr 2v bros. the 160 and the 180. Especially the 180, its lighter than both the xtreme 4v and the rtr 4v but offers similar performance. Yes you don't get a monoshock at the rear, you may think the looks are outdated, but it will surprise you once you sit on the saddle and twist that throttle.
The RTR 180 will destroy all these bikes in no time. The 180 performs similar to that of 200 4v.
I've got both the 200 and the 180, and I must say 180 feels sportier, due to clip-ons and a more committed riding position .
@@ShagH95 I have the 160 2v, it indeed has a much sportier riding stance than the 4v.
Rtr serise bikes are the worst looking bikes of india.
@@souvikdas4518 whatever floats your boat man. Design is subjective.
Under 160 there is only one ultimate riding machine! Its none other than MT-15!
Price is way more infact more than the NS/Apache 200!
Expecting Bajaj Pulsar 170, 190, 210 , 230 , etc in future 😜😜😜
50 😅
Puulsarrrrrr NS160 🔥🔥 or NS 200 always♥️♥️♥️♥️..thy r nt there bcs thy r above all🙌🙌♥️
make a video on biger siblings n250 rtr 200 vs ns
Which among those 3 is better for pillion, especially for our female family members?
We feel the N will be better for a pillion.
N160
Rtr 160
Why is the Mt out