Is the 2021 Subaru Outback XT Onyx Edition better than the Forester?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- The Outback has been a lifted wagon standout from Subaru from many years and 2021 is no exception. The XT trim packs a 2.4L turbocharged flat-4 that produces 260HP & CVT transmission. Of course getting power to the grown is Subaru's Symmetrical AWD. On the outside you will find unique blacked out touches on the Onyx edition including wheels and grill. On the inside you will be greeted to a ton of room and a 11.6in infotainments system. Is the 2021 Subaru Outback XT Onyx Edition better than the Forester?
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Top Dog only because of the turbo version. Bring that turbo to an XT version of the Forester and you'll have a new top dog imo.
Plus a 6 speed manual would make a Ferocious Forester!
Yep they need it fast or the new bronco sport is gonna take sales from them
@@iaminyouout1813 good point, that Bronco will demand attention when it arrives in July, great time to buy a Subaru..
Interesting as the latest rumor is that the 2.4T could come next year to the Forester. Guess Subaru is finally realizing, with their sagging sales, that puppy ads will only get them so far. My theory is that if you lose the interest of the enthusiasts, they are the influencers of a significant number of car purchases for their friends, relatives, neighbors, and coworkers. The current Forester is quite boring IMHO.
@@iaminyouout1813 Unlikely. Already has a recall lol
Subaru is so underrated, I’d choose them over Honda and Nissan
They are selling a ton of them now. I wouldn’t get one do to CVT
No CVT. 7 grand to replace around 90000 miles. Not reliable
Subaru is most certainly not underated in fact they are overrated and still going by word of mouth from the 90’s. To many problems with Subarus
@@kamikazekrunch8363 I never had problems with Subaru, just because you had problems doesn’t mean the whole world has problems
@@ontarioman6301 that’s your opinion,my opinion is I like Subaru
The black wheels trend is unbelievable. I had them back in 2013 and now they’re on everything lol! Stellar review!
Tell me about it! Thanks for the compliment!
Once you go black...
What’s wrong with them tho? Is it bad that we still like what you liked in 2013? Joe said he liked them. I have never had black wheels and I drive 2 new vehicles. I would like to put black wheels on both cars. I guess I won’t now if they are played out. But I think black looks better than silver
@@2004cyrus nothing is wrong with them. I like them on certain cars others not so much. I have them on my Range Rover now and they’re impossible to keep clean but they make the car. Just crazy how big the trend has become.
@@doggedlydetermined7022 that’s cool that you have some currently. I think they look good on the Range Rover. I didn’t think about the cleanliness aspect and that matters a lot to me as I like my vehicles spotless. You were ahead of the trend lol. My best friend has been rocking the black wheels on his cars for as long as you have and used to think they looked juvenile but now at 30 years old I like them. To each their own for sure. But you are absolutely correct they have blown up now. Car makers doing whatever they have to in order to keep things feeling modern.
Great review,Thanks .
I just purchased a Heavily optioned Onyx in Ice Silver last month. My dealer had very few Subaru's left. The dealer had two Silver Onyx Outbacks left. The lesser optioned Onyx was sold two hours previous to me showing up at the dealer lot. I took this car for a test drive and purchased it. I really had hoped for a Forester XT which of course they don't make.
I think the Silver or white versions of the Onyx look great. The car has a very comfortable ride quality and I don't sweat in the seats.Its been 98 degrees here also. Love the looks of the wheels. Yes you can feel it lean a bit on the corners, but not excessively so. Hey its a lifted vehicle. Love the adaptive Cruise. I don't care much for the lane centering as it seems to wander back and forth between lines, so I don't turn it on. The auto start stop can be shut off temporarily with a push of one button on the display. The HVAC system and radio controls can be regulated by voice control also.
The turbo engine seems just a bit sluggish at very low speed with small amount of throttle but comes to life quickly. The engine runs fine on 87 octane.(unless towing where Subaru recommends 91 octane min) I have been averaging 26 mpg with 65% highway and 35% rural hilly driving both computed and hand calculated.
Wireless charging and CD players are options.I have the wireless charging. I don't really miss the CD player as I usually listen to Sirius XM . I wish it was available with heated steering wheel and seat positions settable for each driver. I find out new capabilities on this outback every week it seems. Example: If you come out of the store with your hands full, all you need to do to open the power lift gate is get your arm/hand a couple inches from the Subaru emblem on the gate for a couple seconds and the gate will raise. (assuming you have the fob on you) Pretty cool. I think its hard to be 100% satisfied with anything you purchase,but this Onyx comes pretty close IMO.
I have this exact car, love it, there is wireless charging that goes in the little cubby under the infotainment system. Works well.
Yup I've got the wireless charger also
Is it just me or does anybody else love his random weird comments ? 🤣😂😂 “ let’s say you’re going to a baseball game, you can put your balls in here so you won’t have to carry your balls “ where did that come from 😂😂😂
Chocolate chip cookie cake in your backseat
I am on my second Outback, and love it. 1st one ran it for 15 years
Love the tour and demo! Felt like I was there. Want a Twinkie!
Thanks my friend!
Your reviews have me rolling whenever you bring up food into the video 😂 great work!!🔥🔥🔥
Not everybody likes cars. But we all love food.
Just bought one; a blue Onyx XT. This review was part of the reason why. What's not to like - in addition to what Raiti touts, its turbo power runs on regular unleaded, it has a full size spare and you can get it with a CD player (not the top trim Harmon Kardon unit. unfortunately, but I had to have the wheels) . And it's built in Indiana with 50% domestic content. Subaru got me out of a Big Three product for the first time in forty years.
Such a great vehicle! My mom has a 2020 limited with the 2.5 and never disappoints!
4:29 "Nice smooth pavement like this. Actually, that kind of hurts. Like sand paper" 😂
It was a tough call but I picked the slower Forester sport to order over this. I preferred the orange interior accents and hard climate control buttons! Can’t wait for it to get here.
This is the same decision I'm struggling with. I love the 2.4 turbo and I prefer the wagon setup, but I'm not convinced it's worth the additional $6000 over the Forester Sport, which I really like aesthetically.
Having the same dilemma. In love with the Forester Sport, particularly the interior, but it's so damn slow.
Thank you Joe for this video. Was waiting for this one. Thank you Lori for your support as well.
Both of you doing aome great work with no fluff reviews 👍👏🙏
I love the eyesight feature on my 2017 Forester.The Steering Responsive Headlights are also a feature of my ‘17 Forester, love them when entering the drive of the complex at night as well as the responsive High Beam setting. Great review on this Outback.
You are so very welcome!
I’ve only driven manual. I’ve been holding onto to my current 2002 manual Outback like a precious gem. Hard to think that my next Subaru may not have that option. Much more of a connected experience when driving a manual. So bummed they seem to be phasing them out.
Great review! I just bought this exact vehicle after driving WRX's exclusively since 2002. So far I love it! My only gripe is the climate control and seat heater buttons are so tiny they seem to belong on a cell phone screen. What's the point of having a giant display if it's not optimized for the real world? But overall, it's a very comfortable and versatile vehicle with good power. I think it looks great as well.
Imagine if Subaru kept the 3.6R and turbocharged that flat 6?
Keep dreaming! LOL
Not going to happen.
That for something to do yourself 😂👍
Love your review I actually bought one last weekend and the same model in silver
Understated, inexpensive and very nice!
I totally agree with you!
That’s a nice Subaru, Joe! That’s my favourite Subaru!
Thanks Rolan! I ams so glad that I can share them with you.
Geeze I thought to myself “well Joe I’m scratching my head thinking do I really need AWD? And how just many Twinkies could I carry on the roof rack?” 🤔
Subaru I have been a fan since I was seven and I know a small secret that makes your car the safest car and that’s the roll cage on the inside of the car, and the hatch back and engine isn’t protected because it doesn’t matter in a crash, all that matters is keeping the person inside safe, and I keep telling my grandparents to get a Subaru ascent. Thx for the review jo
( and my dad is looking at buying a car this year. He almost did yesterday )
Almost a perfect car really. If you don’t need more than 5 seats Whats better? Great review again!!
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Nice redesign of the vehicle...it could have been better priced (maybe $4k less) ... overall a good package...shout out to the "queen of the camera" Lori...nice video JOE
You are so very right Michel! Thanks for giving Lori a shoutout!
Yeeeeeeeeeessssssss maaaaaaaan!!!! Wagons for the win!!!! I really wanna believe that we've hit peak crossover production and automakers and consumers alike are gonna start seeing and believing that wagons>crossovers. I ❤ wagons!!! Thanks for bringing us this clean Outback Joe and Lori!!! #RaitisRides #OnThrottle #ToTheDoorPanel #TwinkiesGoWhere #OnThrottleAgain #LoriGotAngles #CameraQueen #Zonkmeister #OnThrottleAllOverThePlace #IfYoureReadyImReady #Subaru #Outback_XT_OnyxEdition #449kSubsAndCounting
I love the way that you think man!
the backseat room is really impressive, you did look a little shrunken!
I totally agree with you!
I own a '20 Forrester, and love it for the most part. It just needs a regular automatic transmission and an XT trim to be available. Then it would be the perfect SUV to me.
3 or 4 Twinkies without making a mess...I'm sold! Glad to see not too many zonks here.
Looks spacious, has got full AWD, & that straight 4 sounds lovely from inside! Thank you RR Family!
not straight, boxer 4
@@ConstantineJoseph Forgot there was an FA24 inside. Thanks.
I am so glad that you like this one. It has a flat 4 though.
@2:40 absolutely true! And Subaru brought the round style back for 2023! Make up your minds! Unfortunately, these fog lights can only be upgraded via Wolfbeam lights kit that will fit two pairs of Diode Dynamics with a pair of custom brackets. And it's not cheap!
Morning Joe and Lori! You can't go wrong with this wagon and you'll.always have great resale value. Always look forward to your morning videos.
Good Morning Ronald! You are so very right about that!
Nice Outback. Still, a regular automatic would be good. Thanks for all your work, Lori
Toyota bought more controlling share in Subaru. They should use Toyota's new hybrid CVT which has a regular automatic first gear for launching and then switches over to a CVT after that. Best of both worlds.
I totally agree with you Adam! Thanks for showing Lori the love!
That is a very good point.
Folks, it is time to get over your outdated criticism of the CVT. Subaru has created the Onyx CVT specifically for the 2.4 turbo. It is ideal for this car. Saying it would be a good car except for the CVT is like saying a horse would be good except for the saddle. The saddle creates the ride. It is 2021. Time to accept that a modern CVT mated to a powerful turbo engine is an awesome engineering feat. Do you know what it feels like to race around on a really good go-cart? You step on the throttle and just go like crazy, with no upshift hesitation. A go cart is a CVT vehicle. Put that concept in an Outback with Subaru (granted, not Nissan) engineering with a Subaru 2.4 flat box turbo engine and you will love it. A "regular" automatic is boring by comparison.
R.Henry
Some German use cvt to Some audis ive seen use it Some domestic to
Love the background intro at the beginning of every video!!
Hi Joe my favorite car brand again. love that Onyx XT !
I am so glad that you are digging this one Rich!
@@RaitisRides Joe I think if I was going to get the Outback it would be the TouringXT top trim level. thanks Joe !
Get a normal roof rack and dump the CVT. The same priced Cherokee Trailhawk can tow 4,500 lbs with a ZF 9 speed trans. I know, resale but it does have hood struts.
I like the ay that you think!
The ultimate family wagon, love Subaru
morning Joe!
Good morning Logan!
@@RaitisRides How was the glare on the new infotainment system? I know on my 19 the gloss black around it likes to blind you if you are in the right light lol
@@logandolatowski7929 it wasn’t bad actually.
I just took mine on a road trip and I was averaging 27mpg on the highway. I like that number
Chocolate Chip Cookie Cakes are so delicious that I want a piece now since you were talking about it.
I am eating one right now.
@@RaitisRides You're lucky!
You're right Jo a chocolate chip cookie cake does sounds really good right about now
I like the way you think.
I’d love if the outback had a pano roof
Have a new crosstrek and a 2018 ZL1 1LE and I'm stoked to get the outback onyx XT in blue this summer. Only thing better would be sti outback 6 speed but I doubt that'll happen. Take note Subaru
Sounds like a great plan!
Got the 2020 onyx outback for the wife she loves it. Great fuel mileage great power when u need it and great in the snow ❄ the ride is very nice and smooth interior is awesome kids spill just wipe up
I love my 2020 onyx but holy hell does the mpg really suck. I'm at 18 mpg mixed city/hwy and that's just from trying really hard conservative driving.
Yeah. I’ve noticed that they kinda lie about their mpg, I have a limited 2019 and have 19.7 when I should be getting mid 20s
I love the Subaru Outback started to thinking about getting an outback limited love the new design Subaru did that is amazing joe
The climate controls should have been separate, those delays through the touch screen is just unacceptable in 2day's tech world. Glad I got my 2018 XT Forester.
Come on subrau! Why the tesla infotainment style and cvt?
If most ppl hate cvts, I dont get why subaru is so stubborn about them. I really like the looks of this and the cargo room, but the cvt and infotainment kills it for me. If I had the $$$ lol
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Ahhhh. Remember the day when I had my 06 outback with that panoramic sun/moon roof!
I dig it, except for that CVT!
11:26 had me laughing... LOVE my 2020 Outback Touring XT!!! Also in Crystal White Pearl but with the Java Brown Nappa Leather (with front ventilated) inside! Back seat is like a limo for the kids. You can open the tailgate by just waving your hand in front of the logo, btw. Couple of other things: integrated/folding roof racks are the best and you didn't mention X-mode for offroad/snow - of which the Onyx has two different modes. BEAST in the snow.... Yes, a regular old automatic would have been nice :( Bringing back the XT got me back into the Outback (had an 05 Outback XT previously). Great review!
Needs the hood scoop to complete the whole design
I like the way you think!
They can do it because of the eyesight system
@@AT-cm6xp can or cannot?
A nice option for daily driving.
You are so right about that Omar!
Even tho I have SUVS I would consider this
Lifted wagon for the win!
@miguel thanks for being a part of the group that killed all sedans, wagons and fastbacks -_-. But if you really go offroad (grass or broken roads don't count) then its all good.
Love the aggressive styling
More wagons please! 👍🏼👍🏼
This outback is pretty sweet.....the ascent is my favorite but I like this a lot😃✌🏽
I wish it had that little display - on the center information panel I'm an exotic that so you can keep an eye on that Turbo LOL vacuum gauge LED display
I agree with you!
Another thorough review , thanks Joe. Just bought the ‘21 Touring XT although it was a tough choice between it and this Onyx XT. I prefer “faux” leather like the Onyx has- way more durable, especially if you have dogs but I wanted an interior that wasn’t black and I could only do that with the Touring edition. The turbo is the way to go, the non turbo engine is just too sluggish. Great car, have had it a month and I’m thrilled with my purchase.
Congrats Jana! I appreciate you sharing that input from your experience!
Which it had a panoramic roof, it’s a must for me
That and not having high-resolution cameras are my real nitpicks. Other than that, the Outback is a very solid vehicle.
I know how you feel!
I love everything about it exept for the big high black plastic in the front and back, still a beautiful car, it will help in snow and everything so the paint isn’t damaged and gets rusty from the salt
Thanks for letting me share it with you! I can totally understand where you are coming from.
@@RaitisRides thank you for sharing it with me, I love your channel, it’s the only car review channel I watch because it isn’t bias, and there’s humor, keep up the amazing work
Always loved my Subaru's! Rally on! Wish the infotainment was more horizontal than a vertical presentation
Great review. Thanks
Thank you for the video and the zonks😉😉
You got it Carie! Thanks for watching!
Purchased the same 12/20. Really love my first Subaru. Comfortable ride. There is so much more that you didn’t get to. Mine does have a wireless charger.
great video Joe, we're still waiting on the Gen 6 Outback in UK.......don't like they've taken away the HVAC buttons/controls. Very happy with my 2019 Gen 5 Premium, but would love some 2.4 turbo power engine, door mirrors that auto-fold on lock and for the love of all that's Subaru, HEATED steering wheel (seems to be missing on all UK Outback's, much needed in Scotland). ❄❄❄❄
Thanks for letting me bring it to you! I hope you guys get it soon!
They need to improve or get rid of CVT transmissions,I wanted a Nissan Maxima but I found out it was CVT And I said 👎
Showing some ignorance on this topic, Pal. The Onyx XT does have an improved and upgraded CVT to match the turbo power. It makes a standard automatic transmission feel out of date.
@floyd watt who cares its just a rental buddy deal with it.
Love your reviews! Turbo 4's are here to stay, but our 3.6 Touring is so smooth, and composed. I did not like the 2.4Turbo I tested. And, I came from a 2006 Legacy GT 2.5 Turbo wagon. I thought about buying a second 3.6 wagon, for the future!! (bought a Civic Type R instead).
Congrats on your Type R Jamie! Thanks for letting me share this one with you!
Great review of the best car on the road.
I like to see more of the Subaru Outbacks reviews
I love mine. Worth every penny.
Great review! New subscriber here and loving the Subaru Outback review. S/O to Laurie? for great camera angles.
Another great review...thank you.
16:40 ON THROTTLE!!!!!!! It sounds nice
heck yeah!
Love the lifted wagon…I’m after a soft rally car feel?
This would be the ticket Craig!
I don’t know if this car is the best, but I do know that the Bucs are gonna win tonight!!!
you must have hit your head...one can only dream if your a KC fan, but Brady is there so I suppose you're probably right
You are awesome!
It is going to be good!
Subaru staying true to their identity! Heart of a rally car!
Love your videos
Thanks Jalin!
I have this and yes black out the chrome trim
AGREED!
Always like your reviews because even if it's a car the viewer might be familiar with they still might not know how many twinkies can fit where. 😂😂Did you mention the startex upholstery in this one btw? I didn't think I heard you mention it but they're still doing that, right?
Thanks for letting me share it with you! Yes they are!
Love this setup I am having a hard time deciding between this ONYX XT and the Honda Passport. IVTM-4 in the Honda vs Symmetrical AWD in this Subi. The Turbo 4 vs naturally aspirated 6 in the Honda. ZF9 automatic transmission in the Honda vs the CVT (Honda wins hands down) lower more car like handling vs sitting high up in a lifted fish bowl (Honda). Then torque vectoring (Honda) vs Brake vectoring (Subaru). Finally space I can park a RAV4 in the back of the passport vs a couple snowboard roller bags in the Subaru. There are 3 of us in the family and normally we carry friends and family around to all sorts of places but during Covid it has been just the 3 of us so for right now it seems like the Honda is overkill but... once we are able to will the extra space in the Honda be more appealing? Hmmmmm. Tough decision. I have driven both and I prefer the Subi over the Honda but when I factor in the rest of the stuff it makes it hard. I live in the mountains and I am coming from a 4runner. I know I will be losing my off road capabilities but these two seem to be the best AWD options under 50K. Thoughts?
Passport? Uncomfortable junk. Honda has fallen so far, and I owned two really good ones!
Hi Zojkkaj, love how Subaru Outback 8it's nice but it's not a hundred percent perfect with the for $÷
I know how you feel Luis! I always love reading your comments.
Thank you Sonkman! Will you dedicate an on Throttle for me? You're a dandy of a CZcamsr and when you say Feast your eyes I sometimes say that phraise to my family!
SUBARU needs a sports wagon w/MT. I've driven SUBARU since 1973. The first was a 1000 SS. Currently a 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT wagon w/MT. Looks like it's my last SUBARU because of CVT.
Thank you. I have had 3 Subaru vehicles and am looking to replace the current one. Looks like I found my replacement car. My 4th Subaru....
Shhhhhh... don't tell the bedwetting Subaru haters here.
I honestly would take the 2019 Outback over this. I've driven the new Legacy Limited which is just a sedan version of this and the tech interface was so unrefined. Everything that was a hard button and easy to use had to be put on a screen for no reason. If was laggy and things like the backup camera resolution look worse and smaller on the new one compared to the old one. The old one also had hood struts and much less unpainted plastic cladding. It has all the same features as the 2019 in what I think was a much better design minus the nuisance stop start system. As far as just a safety nit pick, I do not think it was a good idea for them moving the front turn signal to the outer area of the housing. I've been at intersections with a new Outback on the other side and with those bright LED headlights, the turn signal on the outer area is almost not visible. The 2019s with the adaptive LEDs had the turn signal on the inner half of the housing which was always easily visible. It's honestly an example of manufactures taking after automotive press when they say people want big screens and gimmicks when in reality, people just want stuff that works.
Savagegeese said we are in the windows 95 version of car infotainment. Consumers want something that works, not just to have a big screen! The lag and menus is a deal breaker for me. I’m keeping my 2018 OB 2.5. My screen is bad enough lol.
Another great review. What time piece are you wearing?
Either one you choose will be better at going up Whitetop Mountain in the winter in Southwest Virginia than my STI.
Good call!
Proper review. Thx.
I like it
I am so glad that you do!
2.4L 4 cylinder great engine
Don't forget the turbo Anthony!
@@RaitisRides yep
Please tell us the difference in height between this an the other SUVs, also is it more comfortable than the higher SUVs.
Thanks for the vid!!
I have a 2017 Kia Optima. Turbo. After. I hit 100 kilometres, the car went to shit. So many issues. Getting the outback. Next week!
I would would buy a turbo car again! I had a 2020 Ford Edge 2.0 turbo. Acceleration from a dead stop was scary when crossing busy traffic or someone speeding toward you. I got rid of the brand new car with 512 miles in less than 4 months! I went back to a regular V6 engine and NO Ford turbo crap!
Thanks for sharing your input on this one!
The all new 2021 gtr can't wait to see the review sir joe😊
Nothing is new about it. It’s still the same outdated sports car that Nissan hasn’t cared to redesign
It is the same.
You are correct!
Maybe Subaru will get smart and follow Nissan’s move to slowly or possibly quickly “Eliminate” those GD CVT Transmissions!
You are so right!
I own this exact Subaru. It's amazing. Only qualm is some random squeaks in the interior. And MPG is meh.
Joe, adaptive headlights were in older subarus in the touring trim level. I own
2018 Subaru Forester XT and it has adaptive head lights.
Thanks for that great info from your ownership.
I think the difference is that 2021 it's standard on all trims
how is the cabin noise in these? wanted to test drive one but the dealership near me never has one in. Great review!
Maybe I missed it, but what was the tested mpg? 87 octane?
The Subaru Outback is the only SUV-like vehicle, I call it a sports utility wagon, I would ever drive. Ever. I don't know how it feels personally in the newer models; the only outback I ever driven was a 2013 model and it felt slow, and while going 55, it certainly didn't feel like I was going 55. Did you personally feel as though the outback cuts through on the base engine? I know this trim has a standard turbocharged boxer engine, so is that turbocharger really helpful on that or do I just go for the base engine? I am asking for my Dad, who insists on getting an outback once he uses his CRV to the fullest.
It really needs the turbo.