$3K bill for just 2 items! CAR WIZARD warns the price of repairing this '07 Maserati Quatroporte

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  • Big bills don't aways mean an engine tear down or a tranny rebuild. The CAR WIZARD đŸ§™â€â™‚ïž warns just how expensive older exotic and ultra luxury cars can be to repair on common maintenance items.
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Komentáƙe • 926

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl Pƙed rokem +304

    People tend to forget that premium/exotic cars have premium priced parts even when the cars themselves get cheap.

    • @FWDSUXARSE
      @FWDSUXARSE Pƙed rokem +20

      A cheap used premium (or exotic) car most of the time never winds up being cheap in the long run.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Pƙed rokem +22

      That's pretty much why they get so cheap so quick - parts are hard to get and expensive, they often have odd engineering so it's hard to find skilled people to work on them, and when you do, they charge a high rate for their time - and of course, they are usually quite fragile and get driven harder than most cars, so break a lot and at low mileage. The market has some understanding of this, and thus the depreciation is insane.

    • @baconmcbacon62
      @baconmcbacon62 Pƙed rokem +14

      I’ve only found them to be worth it if you’re a competent home mechanic with a place to work on them and the proper tools.

    • @Broyale26
      @Broyale26 Pƙed rokem +7

      @@FWDSUXARSE I remember thinking of saving up to buy a cheap Benz back in the day. Used to see 'em on the used car lots for $3000 and up and thought that was a deal until I got older and understood how they're money pits once out of warranty.

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 Pƙed rokem +5

      That Maserati looks like a good candidate for an LS swap, if the rest of the car wasn't a POS that is. I can't believe the poor quality of that interior.

  • @johndavies6253
    @johndavies6253 Pƙed rokem +88

    The cost of the parts is so high because the build volumes are so low, so each part bears a greater proportion of the tooling and design cost. If you want exclusivity, you’ll have to pay for it, that’s just the way it goes. Great job Wizard, solid advice as ever.

    • @Klutech
      @Klutech Pƙed rokem +3

      That’s exactly right, and I think this fact is one which is not considered often enough when balking at the high prices for these parts that are made in small quantities. Economies of scale plays a huge “part” in driving the prices down for the mainstream vehicles we’re used to dealing with.

    • @zarbon700
      @zarbon700 Pƙed rokem +4

      The fact still remains that Maseratis are low quality built vehicles and there are vastly better options for the money. Only fools who don't know cars believe Maserati is an exclusive, high quality luxury brand.

    • @worldhello1234
      @worldhello1234 Pƙed rokem

      Yes, but branded parts are usually more expensive than OEM and aftermarket parts and sold at higher markups. Which means it is only a half-truth. The fact remains, it is awfully expensive and it wouldn't be much of a problem if the car was reliable.

    • @blackvulcan100
      @blackvulcan100 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@zarbon700 Absolutely !!

    • @YouTubeSupportTeams
      @YouTubeSupportTeams Pƙed rokem +1

      It was junk from day one though? lol

  • @altergreenhorn
    @altergreenhorn Pƙed rokem +103

    Interior showing attitude to the car by previous owners, can't believe that their attitude to the regular maintenance of this car engine/trans, etc was any better.

    • @heiner71
      @heiner71 Pƙed rokem +13

      It looks like they were living in it. Only thing missing was a full ash tray with cigarette butts and burn holes all over the floor.

    • @romulus_
      @romulus_ Pƙed rokem +7

      From the look of it, it looks like it was fairly chintzy to begin with. The car isn't that old, shouldn't be falling apart like that even if the owner wasn't the best caretaker.

    • @DriverDude100
      @DriverDude100 Pƙed rokem +2

      Yes. Owned by someone who doesn’t care about keeping things nice.

    • @tnutss
      @tnutss Pƙed rokem

      Or the engine and auto is more bulketproof than user care for

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable Pƙed rokem +2

      Cars can deteriorate quite quickly unless you keep them inside or under cover for most of their lives.
      Wouldn't surprise me if it had a lot of faults and the former owner just got fed up.
      Many of these cars are leased from new, so the first owner basically drives it for a few years and doesn't really care since they will upgrade at the end of the lease period.
      The lease company that owns the car sells it off cheap as a deductible and some drop kick buys it thinking "Wow a Maserati!", then can't afford to fuel it, insure it, or fix it.

  • @stevezimmerman5644
    @stevezimmerman5644 Pƙed rokem +73

    I have rebuilt quite a few project cars over the years and they are ALWAYS at least 3 times as expensive as I thought and take at least twice as long. There is no cheap way and any short cuts you think you have come up with turn out to cost more in time and money in the end when you have to redo them properly once you find out why they were done like that at the factory. Great learning experience, bad investment.

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Pƙed rokem +2

      If you start with a really great platform and decide you're going to get your value back through mileage rather than trying to sell it for a profit then you can do ok (IF) you like the car in the first place and are therefore likely to keep it. This of course assumes sweat equity.

    • @charlesbunting1790
      @charlesbunting1790 Pƙed rokem +1

      Any kind of machanic work once you get into a job l involve more than you figured to begin with. Rebuilding cars is somethin a man's gotta enjoy doin and if you have to pay somebody to do you need to stay away from em. And on them old cars that works somethin that don't never go away. If it aint in your blood leave em alone. LOL

    • @barrybarry8564
      @barrybarry8564 Pƙed rokem +1

      I read Hot Rod magazine for years and remember that almost every time they asked the owners if they had any advice for other people looking to get a classic car they'd say to just buy the best quality car possible because you'd always lose money fixing one up.

    • @charlesbunting1790
      @charlesbunting1790 Pƙed rokem

      @@barrybarry8564 that's exactly right. You aint hardly if ever gonna make money building an selling em. You gotta run it out of em. When you get tired of foolin with em or see another one you like for th right price grab it an build it.

  • @davidbenji1
    @davidbenji1 Pƙed rokem +11

    That's SUCH a good point you make, David. "The value of the car has dropped but the value of the parts have not."

  • @michaelhawkins5530
    @michaelhawkins5530 Pƙed rokem +56

    Seems like a non-electronic strut conversion on all four corners would be about the same price as one electronic strut. These air or electronic struts are always so expensive when they fail. Simpler is better.

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 Pƙed rokem +7

      I have a 1995 Buick Roadmaster with air suspension. It broke, too expensive to replace the shocks and air pump, so I converted to conventional shocks and a 3" lift on the springs.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 Pƙed rokem +5

      yes just like the bentleys and rolls shocks fail fast and there are conversions out there

    • @anthonyxuereb792
      @anthonyxuereb792 Pƙed rokem +1

      Good advice sir.

    • @draganmladenov
      @draganmladenov Pƙed rokem +6

      Coilovers kit for all 4 corners costs 1200$ ! It is not very clever decision to buy 1 shock absorber for 2k for a car which cost no more than 5k

    • @bowslap
      @bowslap Pƙed rokem +2

      Similar scenario for the Lincoln Mark 8’s with the air suspension
most simply delete it and use the Thunderbird strut setup.

  • @jonathans1472
    @jonathans1472 Pƙed rokem +339

    Instead of spending 25k more to buy a better one, just don’t buy one. You will be way ahead of the game.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 Pƙed rokem +9

      Agree 😊

    • @boat6868
      @boat6868 Pƙed rokem +22

      Yes, seeing these european high end cars and the work and expense it takes to keep them going on the youtube channels I watch has eliminated any tempation I might have had.

    • @matt33876
      @matt33876 Pƙed rokem +27

      Yea, just don't live life and stay indoors at all times.

    • @StanCarrico
      @StanCarrico Pƙed rokem +6

      some car brands are too SM. they just keep punishing you until you give up and sell them.

    • @Junkyardnedreck
      @Junkyardnedreck Pƙed rokem +5

      😂😂😂😂😂, just buy a Prius

  • @NuclearNurse1
    @NuclearNurse1 Pƙed rokem +18

    Still quoted as $200,000 car parts. That right there is wisdom. As someone who dreams of owning a used car of this caliber, that helps me stay rooted in reality. Thank you Wizard!

    • @bonda_racing3579
      @bonda_racing3579 Pƙed rokem

      I mean u still in the game of getting one of these one day?

    • @ruhollahetemadi7518
      @ruhollahetemadi7518 Pƙed rokem +1

      Quatroporte is literally the most disposable of the cars of this caliber

    • @bonda_racing3579
      @bonda_racing3579 Pƙed rokem

      @@ruhollahetemadi7518 better off getting a used S class than the Maserati

  • @billyrayvalentine5220
    @billyrayvalentine5220 Pƙed rokem +41

    My high school auto shop teacher always said, "if you want to know a person's true nature, go look at their car inside and out. " He was sooooo right.

    • @frankz5864
      @frankz5864 Pƙed rokem

      @Quick Setace fuck em then.

    • @barrybarry8564
      @barrybarry8564 Pƙed rokem +6

      @Quick Setace that's what you call a "ghost"

    • @YouTubeSupportTeams
      @YouTubeSupportTeams Pƙed rokem

      @Quick Setace add 'If they have a car' to the end of his sentence.

  • @travoywashington7290
    @travoywashington7290 Pƙed rokem +10

    I worked in the parts room at a Mercedes dealership and was floored when I saw the price of their parts. One of the examples was a shop that ordered a heater core and it was 700 dollars. On top of that when a part is in the system for a certain amount of time they throw them in the trash instead of trying to sell them to a wholesale parts dealer.

    • @EtonieE25
      @EtonieE25 Pƙed rokem +6

      @ Travoy. Yep as an owner of a 10 year old E Class 350 the parts are insane. A SAM unit failed and fitted by UK MB specialists was £1,000.00. ( MB UK wanted nearly double) Michelin Pilot tyres £1,000.00. Broken brake pipe, MB wanted £1,000.00 to take off the rear axel to do the job ( this £1,000.00 sum seems to be normal) the list goes on


      So yes very expensive to maintain

    • @zarbon700
      @zarbon700 Pƙed rokem

      Mercedes overcharges know the majority of owners are suckers who care more about showing off wealth than having a highly reliable and low maintenance cost vehicle.

    • @YouTubeSupportTeams
      @YouTubeSupportTeams Pƙed rokem

      Because Mercedes are fucktards and so are the mugs who buy them :) Merc knows it too.

  • @azizhachimi8744
    @azizhachimi8744 Pƙed rokem +25

    Car wizard getting better and better on camera! Congrats!

    • @wads_o_hair
      @wads_o_hair Pƙed rokem

      He still can't decide how to pronounce "roof."

  • @mondeo984
    @mondeo984 Pƙed rokem +8

    A quick search, I can find two NEW struts for the Maserati for 900 USD with 2 years waranty, same goes for engine mounts. I would consider finding better suppliers.

    • @rpavlik1
      @rpavlik1 Pƙed rokem

      I suspect it differs in some way, the Wizard is not a fool.

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 Pƙed rokem +2

      Let me guess, made in China? Not all parts that claim to fit actually do, and not all are built with quality.. Had plenty of people want me to install white box/ no-name brand crap from Amazon on their cars. I tell them the labor went up and no warranty in any way, shape or form.

    • @fivemethoxy
      @fivemethoxy Pƙed rokem +2

      link your sources i searched and am finding them for about 1200-1400 this for a granturismo though used they are about 500.

  • @bigtuna9529
    @bigtuna9529 Pƙed rokem +12

    Blue 4.2 Red 4.7 you did hit it right on the head though you’re better off spending the extra money to buy one in good shape where the maintenance has been kept up to date. The biggest problem with these cars is exactly like you said people don’t wanna spend the money for the upkeep on the maintenance I had two of them and both were very well-maintained and I had very little problems with them.

    • @checker3694
      @checker3694 Pƙed rokem +1

      Correction Red 4.2 dry sump duo select Blue 4.2 Wet sump Zf auto Red 4.7 Zf auto

    • @bigtuna9529
      @bigtuna9529 Pƙed rokem

      My 2 GTs were 4.7 with red covers & were both wet sump.

    • @checker3694
      @checker3694 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@bigtuna9529 All 4.7 are wets sumps as they just happen to have red cam covers.

    • @theEskalaator
      @theEskalaator Pƙed rokem

      I don't think that's the case. You can escape engine rebuild by buing "maintained" car, but shock will break on any car.
      Not to mention it could be polished turd. Then you get the same car for 3x the price.

    • @checker3694
      @checker3694 Pƙed rokem

      @@theEskalaator Good point, but that's cars previous owner based solely on the interior was a Crack head, or it was used as a new York yellow cab 😁

  • @oppy1989
    @oppy1989 Pƙed rokem +30

    I'm always delighted when you have a new video out very informative about The vehicle you're working on keep up the fantastic work you do

  • @saratc660
    @saratc660 Pƙed rokem +25

    The motor mount silicone implants 😂😂

    • @michaela1655
      @michaela1655 Pƙed rokem +1

      @That V8 Life Hoovie has completely corrupted the Wizard's mind. But it is rather humorous.

    • @robertbeirne9813
      @robertbeirne9813 Pƙed rokem

      @That V8 Life I always got the impression Hoovie was a good guy. Loves his family, helps his friends.

    • @robertbeirne9813
      @robertbeirne9813 Pƙed rokem

      @That V8 Life No it doesn’t, but calling him child predator is a little extreme.

    • @robertbeirne9813
      @robertbeirne9813 Pƙed rokem

      @That V8 Life fair enough.

  • @domfer2540
    @domfer2540 Pƙed rokem +7

    Loved my 68 Quatroporte. All leather, including engine and trunk. Two crystal flower vase, between the front and rear seats. Twin gas tanks, needed them.

  • @motroman1
    @motroman1 Pƙed rokem +5

    It’s always true, if you can’t afford a good one you certainly can’t afford a bad one.

  • @johnkinsel5027
    @johnkinsel5027 Pƙed rokem +4

    Your video got me wondering about the guys in Cuba that keep cars from the 40's and 50's running. When they break down they cannot buy parts, they have to make them. But they are dealing old Chryslers instead of complex Maserati's.

  • @tnutss
    @tnutss Pƙed rokem +4

    To replace the whole skyhook system, get the coilovers from formula dynamics! Saves having to deal with skyhook shocks and they are rebuildable

    • @checker3694
      @checker3694 Pƙed rokem +4

      Skyhook now available aftermarket $903.00 a pair 2 fronts with Bushes fitted. Bushes now available aftermarket $40 pair.

  • @baconmcbacon62
    @baconmcbacon62 Pƙed rokem +18

    My general rule of thumb I learned the hard way is: if I can’t comfortably afford the payments of the new equivalent of a car, I can’t afford to maintain that car either. I definitely can’t afford a 100k car payment, much less comfortably, so I can’t afford to buy a depreciated hooptie and fix it up.

    • @Watcher3223
      @Watcher3223 Pƙed rokem +3

      And it also depends on what your intentions are for the car.
      If it's for daily driving, it would be wiser to buy something far more utilitarian, like a Toyota Camry or a Ford Crown Vic.
      Not as nice as a Maserati ... assuming it's 100% sorted, of course. A Maserati that's not in the greatest of shape ... you'll wish you were driving a Crown Vic.
      Speaking of which ... a Crown Vic LX Sport Package that's perfectly sorted and blacked out is a fairly bad-ass car ... and with hardly any of the Italian opera style drama of a Maserati. Still not as fast, but how fast do you need your car to be?

    • @baconmcbacon62
      @baconmcbacon62 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Watcher3223 it is definitely a badass and cromulent car. My worry is how many people would slow down just because they see a Crown Vic in the mirror?
      I’ve wanted to get a Town Car, drop a Coyote in it, and put in a manual transmission. That would be a damn fine setup, I think!
      I’ve learned that if you only have room for one car and nowhere to work on it, avoid the hoopties at all cost lol. I’ve been burned too many times. Get something reliable-ish that runs well, even if it’s more interesting than a Camcord.
      Now, when I have a carport or garage to work on something, then I can look into hoopties again.

    • @robertbeirne9813
      @robertbeirne9813 Pƙed rokem

      @G Kab absolutely right. If you’re going to buy a cool car that needs fixing, you have to be able to do it yourself.

  • @fivemethoxy
    @fivemethoxy Pƙed rokem +6

    I just got an 08 Maserati gran Turismo at 43k miles for 30k good to know what sorts of parts could fail and where to start looking for replacements etc. I did get the car knowing that I would have to put money into parts that fail eventually. It's super sturdy as of now and ive put 6k miles on it since i got it.

  • @alecdurr4627
    @alecdurr4627 Pƙed rokem +34

    I feel this 😂I bought an 97 integra from my uncle for 35$ and have spent 5k fixing it
. Suspension, brakes, and seals (just to have the drivers axel snap)

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Pƙed rokem +1

      I did exactly that with my 91 Integra but replaced both while the engine and trans were out. Well more than ten years now since the project and I still daily it. The problem I'm now running into is even the best parts available are complete junk. And when the DS axle has to come out to change the alternator, THREE TIMES IN ONE DAY it gets old.

  • @kclefthanded427
    @kclefthanded427 Pƙed rokem +19

    Just because a used Maserati now cost a fraction of the price doesn't mean the parts are cheap either (if available)

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 Pƙed rokem +3

      There is a reason its cheap. The three most expensive things you can find on earth are 1. a cheap supercar 2. a free boat. 3. a wife.

    • @Alex68dash
      @Alex68dash Pƙed rokem +1

      I always tell people not to buy a cheap luxury. I used to work at autozone and when a lady came in looking for a part for her jaguar saying she got it for cheap and she really likes it but when I told her how much a headlight bulb costs she instantly had a look of regret

    • @akjohnny5997
      @akjohnny5997 Pƙed rokem

      he literally said that the last 1 minute of the video

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 Pƙed rokem

      and its a dodge charger interior....which are way more reliable

    • @billymania11
      @billymania11 Pƙed rokem

      @@nickwarner8158 The wife is the worst expense.

  • @robertharker9010
    @robertharker9010 Pƙed rokem +9

    Great video Mr and Mrs. Wizard. So honest and real.

  • @MWL4466
    @MWL4466 Pƙed rokem +4

    A mid-size business owner acquaintance of a coworker of mine had a 2014 Astin Martin Vantage. He took it in for service, just a tune up and a/c service and brakes, he got a bill for $18385 !! Ouch indeed !

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Pƙed rokem +3

      Did it have carbon ceramic brakes? If so I bet at least $15k of that bill was just brake rotors.

    • @rpavlik1
      @rpavlik1 Pƙed rokem

      Oh yeah, carbon ceramic are crazy expensive, though they should last longer and perform better.

    • @martonvarga1926
      @martonvarga1926 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

      Bullshit!!! 😂😂😂 its always "my cousins best friends aquiantance' dog owned one" 18 grand for a tune up my ass....

  • @rickhibdon11
    @rickhibdon11 Pƙed rokem +2

    Dealer I once worked at had a little cartoon on the service dept wall. Showed a service write showing a customer an estimate for repairs.. Caption was, "Look at it this way, sir. If you ever wanted to own an expensive car, Now's your chance"

  • @jamesg8199
    @jamesg8199 Pƙed rokem +13

    Still rolling in my ‘87 Camry with 240K miles on the original engine and 5-speed manual. While I’ve had large repairs completed on my car during my 20 years of ownership, these repairs are usually around $1000 for parts and labor (head gasket, timing belt, clutch job, etc.) Unless this customer has an endless supply of disposable income, he will go bankrupt once he has to complete a major engine or transmission repair.

    • @ericvoge6678
      @ericvoge6678 Pƙed rokem

      Toyota in japanese translation. “Runs forever” Honda. “ starts on first kick.”

  • @David..
    @David.. Pƙed rokem +6

    The old adage of “can’t afford to buy it new, then you definitely can’t afford to buy it used” is very appropriate.

    • @valtertrader1167
      @valtertrader1167 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      Totally agree

    • @cbarber5366
      @cbarber5366 Pƙed 6 dny

      Not true. I only buy used luxury vehicles with low miles. Most hold up until you near the 100k mark, which is when I trade it

  • @andymair7992
    @andymair7992 Pƙed rokem +17

    When Mrs Wizard claims your Ferrari, snow her this episode! She clearly says it's your Ferrari! 😂

    • @andymair7992
      @andymair7992 Pƙed rokem +1

      *show, not snow

    • @vibingwithvinyl
      @vibingwithvinyl Pƙed rokem

      @@andymair7992 You _can_ edit your comment.

    • @johnmaurer3097
      @johnmaurer3097 Pƙed rokem +1

      that Ferrari has been in the shop since I started this channel over a year ago. He repaired two boats faster than that one car so I really wonder if it’s just a tongue in cheek joke with the wife. If they wanted it drivable, The Wizard would’ve knocked it by now.

    • @vnorvi
      @vnorvi Pƙed rokem +2

      My wife would say it’s my car when it is on the lift, and hers when it is fixed.

    • @paulwoodman5131
      @paulwoodman5131 Pƙed rokem +1

      My guess is that she's got her 👀 on some other car.

  • @Hammar89
    @Hammar89 Pƙed rokem +30

    I've been in love with this car ever since Jeremy drove one on top gear. Such a gangster car with a lovely engine note.

    • @Barbarapape
      @Barbarapape Pƙed rokem +8

      As a previous owner of one, they are great to drive, until they go wrong, the electrics require the correct Maserati
      diagnostic gear to repair them and recode any new parts to the car, only specialists have them.
      See my comment above for a list of the weak spots that i found out the expensive way.

    • @clonetrooper576
      @clonetrooper576 Pƙed rokem +6

      Did u remember how they did a scientific study on how the Quattroporte engine sound was a certified aphrodesiac

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 Pƙed rokem +3

      LOL that reminds me of a joke we used in the car business for someone massively upside down in their trade: "Do you love this car? Good, because you're married to it!"

  • @JP-yp2yw
    @JP-yp2yw Pƙed rokem +15

    Great video wizard! As Scotty K would say "an endless money pit" 😂😂😂

    • @00recon
      @00recon Pƙed rokem

      He's an idiot. I don't even think he has ever worked on a car.

  • @Jaguarmaserati
    @Jaguarmaserati Pƙed rokem +7

    I like the older Quattroportes. Beautiful cars. Also, an old Maserati with expensive repairs. Look at my NOT surprised face. And I guess in regards to the base price spent on the car and how much you spend in repairs, you could get it a LITTLE cheaper. But, it could just be a case of this Maserati was dying and the customer wanted to bring it back to life.

  • @antonpandoursky9790
    @antonpandoursky9790 Pƙed rokem +7

    At the time this customer sloooowly finishes fixing this Maserati, that strut will probably need another replacement 😄

  • @ll4680
    @ll4680 Pƙed rokem +8

    I hear this is one of Scotty Kilmer’s most favorite cars.

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 Pƙed rokem +6

      Scotty Kilmer diddles himself in a 94 high mileage Celica with ice cold air while looking at a picture of the chairman of Toyota.

    • @DDd-hr6mz
      @DDd-hr6mz Pƙed rokem +2

      ​@@williamegler8771 😂😂😂😂

  • @oldrrocr
    @oldrrocr Pƙed rokem +1

    thanks Wizard! You've talked me out of at least 2 cars!

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 Pƙed rokem +2

    Wow, Mrs. Wizard made the Wizard do the interior tour himself today!

  • @groosbro1
    @groosbro1 Pƙed rokem +4

    There's a 2004 Mercedes 500SEL in my neighborhood that hasn't moved in a few years. Every time I walk by it I say to myself "The air suspension is stupidly expensive, keep walking!"

  • @chrisfurlough466
    @chrisfurlough466 Pƙed rokem +5

    With Maseratis it's not the price of BUYING it. It's the price of KEEPING it that you should be concerned about.

  • @blarno
    @blarno Pƙed rokem +1

    I have a friend who is a time served (35+ years) Ferrari/Maserati mechanic and he said if you own a Maserati, you may as well stand on top of a windy hill throwing money into the air.

  • @SaltineWalter
    @SaltineWalter Pƙed rokem +2

    Makes you wonder why we punish ourselves like this! I'm looking at a 2011 Range Rover Sport that is in good shape and well maintained outside of a seller stated "camshaft issue", who knows what the real story is, but the 4k price tag still makes it tempting. I think I'm a textbook sucker for punishment!

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 Pƙed rokem +1

      If you hate money in your bank account go ahead and buy it. If the thing was so great and the fix so minor it wouldn't be selling for 4k. Be ready to put 10k into it.

  • @rEdHoUsE_1969
    @rEdHoUsE_1969 Pƙed rokem +4

    This is another community service announcement by The Wizard for 'Car Guys n Gals' looking at some of those heavily depreciated & 'cheap' luxury cars on Market Place and the like ... been there done that ... Wizard is so right ... strangely luxury car parts never seem to depreciate 😧
    There's an old saying ... "If you can't afford a new [Insert luxury vehicle make] ... then you probably can't afford a used one"😉

  • @ozarkliving7263
    @ozarkliving7263 Pƙed rokem +31

    “Formerly owned by an aspiring rap artist
..”. Huge pass

    • @burntnougat5341
      @burntnougat5341 Pƙed rokem +7

      Thats like every other second hand Maserati. Bleedoff effect of being related to mopar

    • @FWDSUXARSE
      @FWDSUXARSE Pƙed rokem +5

      SoundCloud rapper lol

    • @bryan1480
      @bryan1480 Pƙed rokem +2

      Or Jessie Pinkman...

    • @FWDSUXARSE
      @FWDSUXARSE Pƙed rokem +4

      @@bryan1480 đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
      "Minor fender damage" (riddled with bullet holes and meth dust)

    • @TheSmurfboard
      @TheSmurfboard Pƙed rokem +1

      just vacuum the carpets and resell what you find ... now you can afford all those parts

  • @MartinOShieldWindyCitySDR
    @MartinOShieldWindyCitySDR Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    This is my first time watching Mr. & Mrs. Wizard, and I'm already in love with them both especially with Mr. Wizard's outstanding explanations on "Why does repairing luxury vehicles costs so much?" = Everyone needs to watch and listen and learn from Mr. Wizard!

  • @silversleeper484
    @silversleeper484 Pƙed rokem

    I just spent $3,500 give or take for parts for my 2013 C63 Sedan P31 and U70 for 60k miles major service. Brembo 2 pc front rotors and Brembo rear rotors and pads, 9 liters of Motul 5w40 Gen2, oil filter, air filters, cabin filters, pulley's and belt, radiator fluid, Brembo Brake Fluid, Fuel injectors, Spark plugs. Wow :)

  • @MrJeffcoley1
    @MrJeffcoley1 Pƙed rokem +15

    In the 1960's my dad owned a service station. His partner could work on exotic cars, much cheaper than the dealership. One of his most popular jobs was converting V12 Jaguars to use a GM alternator instead of the Jaguar. Those Jags ate alternators for some reason, and the GM was much cheaper to replace and easier to get than the one the car came with. A fraction of the cost.

    • @briandeaton3550
      @briandeaton3550 Pƙed rokem +4

      I had a ragged out '69 E-Type in 1983. Jaguar u-joints were $25 each. Chevrolet u-joints in the same size were $9 each. After that discovery, I quit buying Jag parts.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Pƙed rokem +4

      Original alternators where probably made by Lucas - also known as "The dark lord of poor quality electrical components" - or just "Lucifer" sometimes.

    • @bobbishop9339
      @bobbishop9339 Pƙed rokem +7

      @@Beer_Dad1975 The Prince Of Darkness

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 Pƙed rokem +2

      With Jag's piss poor quality there used to be a site back in the day called "jaguars that run." It sold conversion motor mounts and other parts to put a chevy 350 into Jaguars in order to make it so you could actually afford to drive it reliably

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@nickwarner8158 LOL yeah I remember seeing quite a few Chevy small block V8 conversions back in the 90's. The 4.2 inline 6 was actually a decent engine though, just a bit lazy and of course loved to burn and leak oil - but hey, that's british cars for you. The V12 too was a good engine generally, but a maintenance nightmare for anyone who didn't have a good understanding of it.

  • @khackett7
    @khackett7 Pƙed rokem +6

    Driven my buddies many times, and it’s tremendous in all the right ways, but WOW the maintenance was crazy. I wonder if some day it (the right trim) will be a collectible due to the fact it’s a Pininfarina thoroughbred.

    • @anthonyxuereb792
      @anthonyxuereb792 Pƙed rokem

      Probably there may be too many of them to be collectable but I wouldn't mind collecting one myself!

  • @jeffreyvietzke2125
    @jeffreyvietzke2125 Pƙed rokem

    Retired ASE Master Auto Tech here, with 42 years in the business. Car Wizard, as usual, hits the nail on the head. I don't think I've ever disagreed with him on anything. Except I hate Land Rovers and Range Rovers and like C1 Corvettes. Another accurate, no-nonsense video. Being from the SF Bay Area, I have seen this for years: formerly very expensive, exotic cars selling for peanuts on the used market a few years down the line. Good deals? Never. Money pits? Always.

  • @alphakky
    @alphakky Pƙed rokem

    I love the fact you work on high end cars... and then you see that old GM product in the background.

  • @icuranis4597
    @icuranis4597 Pƙed rokem +3

    Does it do 185?

  • @MarzNet256
    @MarzNet256 Pƙed rokem +10

    That's nuts. I just replaced the front struts, mounts, bumpers and boots for $285 with KYB parts on a 2006 Toyota Matrix. Car just passed 200k miles yesterday and going strong.

    • @BenJammin427
      @BenJammin427 Pƙed rokem +3

      Scotty Kilmer approved

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Pƙed rokem

      Toyota struts might get noisy, but they last forever. I would have just the originals.

    • @phgamer4393
      @phgamer4393 Pƙed rokem

      @@BenJammin427 wizard approved as well. he keeps saying dont get exotics unless you know what your getting into.

    • @MarzNet256
      @MarzNet256 Pƙed rokem

      @@user-tb7rn1il3q Not mine on NY/NJ potholes and 195k. The passenger side was soaked.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Pƙed rokem +1

      Hah, we have a Toyota Voltz (same as the Matrix but in RHD) we've had for 14 years now, it's now our spare car beater - it's hardly cost us a cent too - This weekend I have to replace the sway bar bushings as they have started to perish quite badly... $30 for the pair from Toyota, and it'll probably take me all of 40 minutes to put them in, and I'm not even a great DIY mechanic. Best thing about it is it's a tiny little thing but it can hold a crapload of stuff, and we don't care about how beat up it is.

  • @RickyLake
    @RickyLake Pƙed rokem

    I had an '07 QP with the F1 tranny. I was so happy when I got rid of it.

  • @keno77
    @keno77 Pƙed rokem +1

    A lot of this exotic cars don't manufacturing all the parts themselves, I think the struts from some other car with quarter the price will fit, the problem is to find out what brand they are using, Ford Volvo Toyota..... VW etc

  • @richardsgarage6697
    @richardsgarage6697 Pƙed rokem +3

    Although I’m guiltily of loving these aging European exotics too, I often run into those who end up hating them because of how the parts and labor adds up. People overlook the fact that these cars may have depreciated, but their parts prices remain the same. At the end of the day, you’re still paying to maintain that $100K plus car, not a Honda Accord. I wish people would understand this before buying one and then becoming upset about the maintenance and repairs. With that being said, I’d still own one personally.

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 Pƙed rokem +5

    I ran a few Alfa 164s and found them great cars and affordable to maintain. I thought about a Maserati now and again, but thought " how much more does it actually give you, and at what cost ?" I concluded it just wasn't worth the "upgrade". The Alfas did everything I needed and without the financial worry. P.S. I do love Maseratis and here in the UK we have a guy who has worked out loads of economical fixes that would otherwise cost thousands. The lower end of Maserati ownership rather depends on him....but he is only one guy đŸ€”

    • @elnyoutube123
      @elnyoutube123 Pƙed rokem +2

      I used to have one too it was a Burgundy L model. Had it for a few years and it was pretty solid.

    • @organiccold
      @organiccold Pƙed rokem

      I had some 164s and 166s amazing cars

  • @worldhello1234
    @worldhello1234 Pƙed rokem

    @16:02 That sometimes works with old Mercs because of the heritage program.

  • @MissionaryForMexico
    @MissionaryForMexico Pƙed rokem

    This is why brother, I purchased a Mercedes benz 300SD 1983 turbo diesel. Most of the parts i find at pick your part junk yards, and online mail order part suppliers. I perform all the work myself. I figured buy German engineering, and with the 126 chassis that has the highest imported cars in America! I drive a tank with the inline five cylinder engine!

  • @15KHPCLUB
    @15KHPCLUB Pƙed rokem +4

    I've almost bought one of these about 5 or 6 years ago but instead I got an S63 AMG
    Needless to say, I don't regret my decision at all...

  • @ozarkliving7263
    @ozarkliving7263 Pƙed rokem +44

    I wouldn’t own that car even if it was given to me.

    • @bwion1
      @bwion1 Pƙed rokem +4

      I was thinking the same thing


    • @Onyxthecat__
      @Onyxthecat__ Pƙed rokem +1

      I wouldn't own that car if I bought it.

    • @boogitybear2283
      @boogitybear2283 Pƙed rokem +2

      I rather have a Toyota anything than that Maserati.

    • @stansmith4054
      @stansmith4054 Pƙed rokem

      Maybe if there was a Chevy 350 or Windsor 351 in one instead of the Italian garbage engines.

    • @timhancock6626
      @timhancock6626 Pƙed rokem +4

      I'm told the Maserati said the same about you đŸ€Ł

  • @gsprings43
    @gsprings43 Pƙed rokem

    in 2018,,,i went to get a used car at a used car lot where i live,,,,there were cadillacs bmw's and cars like that,,,most of these were i would say were maybe early 2000.s to maybe 2010 or so,,,but chose a 2009 mitsubishi eclipse gs, with 150,000 miles,,,to this day,,,the only thing i have replaced is a starter,,,,and that was 430 dollars including labor,it's still running fine

  • @johnulrich5572
    @johnulrich5572 Pƙed rokem +1

    You have to remember that all exotic cars are built for first owners who keeps them until the warranty is up and then trades them in. A set of custom coil-overs for this car is about $1,600 for all four plus labor to install them. But why waste the money. However, it's hard to beat the styling of Italian cars.

  • @francescoparillo8664
    @francescoparillo8664 Pƙed rokem +3

    slowly fix it up over time...famous last words.

  • @31dknight
    @31dknight Pƙed rokem +2

    Another great video from the wizard. Thanks

  • @milescarter7803
    @milescarter7803 Pƙed rokem +2

    Interesting car, As long as engine etc is good, I'd go aftermarket strut/mounts and have somebody rebuild the radio. If its not a terrible radio. Might just put a phone mount in there.
    The exhaust note on these Masarati are just amazing. I know I'm weird, but I'd take a GMC truck and swap the engines. LS family car and race truck đŸ€Ł

  • @collinreesejones5525
    @collinreesejones5525 Pƙed rokem +2

    My favorite old saying is "There is NOTHING more expensive than a cheap Rolls-Royce" 😎

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 Pƙed rokem +8

    Whenever I see someone driving a Mazzer or such like, I can't help but think,
    "There goes more money than sense".

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Pƙed rokem +2

      Either that or they have so much money that it just doesn't matter to them.

  • @Mike__P
    @Mike__P Pƙed rokem +5

    I can never figure out how when you price out any car part by part, it seems like the car should cost a lot more than it does.

    • @ronaldfulton1175
      @ronaldfulton1175 Pƙed rokem +2

      Discount price when you buy hundreds, thousands, millions.

    • @tykronjohnson1970
      @tykronjohnson1970 Pƙed rokem +2

      I sold car parts for 21years.I can tell you parts are worth more than the purchase price depending on how long you keep the car.

    • @CoreMaster111
      @CoreMaster111 Pƙed rokem

      Simple. They sell the car for 30% more than manufacturing cost. This means that a single 100$ part is essentially sold for 130$ as a part of the package. But a spare part also needs to make them enough profits to cover storage costs, packaging, additional handling costs etc, so they may need to charge 70% over the original manufacturing cost to make that 30%. So you end up paying 170$. And if they charge 70% for all spare parts, your 40 000$ car would end up costing 50 000$ if you bought each part separately.

  • @geoffmarsh7986
    @geoffmarsh7986 Pƙed rokem +1

    Stunningly beautiful car, beyond any US manufacturer to design anything remotely similar.

  • @kirkhilles523
    @kirkhilles523 Pƙed rokem +1

    One thing that really stood out in my mind that I (hope I will) never forget is this: if a car has a part fail on it at 25k miles and it was was just driven normally... then that part is probably going to fail again in another 25k miles. Car manufacturers aren't like software - they rarely fix their "bugs". If there is a poorly engineered part, then the new one is going to have the same problems in the same period of time. That's what is really crazy about these low mileage exotics - unless there is something directly related to age, the failures that the happen in the short amount of miles in those pampered environments (never seen rain, probably California temperatures, garage kept) is just really embarrassingly bad.
    At the other end, if you replace parts that finally fail on a 200k Japanese car, then there's a pretty good chance the new parts will last 200k.
    In this example, if it's $2.5k just for one strut + bushing, you need to budget another $7.5k just for the other 3.
    Money pit and unlike investing in something like your house, you won't recover ANY of those costs when you sell. Heck, if you advertise the car with $10k of recent service, you'll probably scare away a number of customers.

  • @MasticinaAkicta
    @MasticinaAkicta Pƙed rokem +3

    Maserati Quatroporte? It is a Maserati! Hahahaha, forget cheap repairs.
    Some brands look cool to own and ride but if something breaks you know it will probably cost just about the left over value it has.

  • @dh510
    @dh510 Pƙed rokem +3

    Who would abuse his Maserati like this? The interior looks awful!

  • @swissteam777
    @swissteam777 Pƙed rokem +2

    One of my buddies bought a Maserati and I cannot keep track of how many issues he had including a full engine swap... I told him to buy a fancy Lexus instead but you know, it doesn't sound as good as a Maserati...

  • @racerboy2212
    @racerboy2212 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great info for those who just don’t know. Thanks for sharing.

  • @joeychicago6436
    @joeychicago6436 Pƙed rokem +4

    Buy it for $5000, put the drivetrain from a Crown Victoria in it.

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Pƙed rokem

      Trade a ferrari derived v8 for possibly the most boring v8 I can think of, brilliant.

  • @jorgey4
    @jorgey4 Pƙed rokem +2

    Maybe i'm not familiar with maseratis but what does that head unit have on it that would stop me from converting that to an aftermarket double-din?

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 Pƙed rokem +1

      It would be a hack job, it's one of those built into the dash with a weird bezel shape. Assuming Maserati hasn't wired the damn thing into the car's brain like Volkswagen did.

    • @jorgey4
      @jorgey4 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@MrJeffcoley1 At the time i was feeling lazy as to inspect a still image. The buttons on the side perform other non-radio functions so you'd be right, attempting to install an aftermarket radio is dependant on if that screen is wired into those buttons and the rest would be how carefully one would carve out and stitch together radio mounts, with the right person doing it i feel like it wouldn't be a hack job, unless you want factory spec, which how rough this car looks the former would be the route to go.

  • @Midlanflyguy
    @Midlanflyguy Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Customers such as these keep you in business. In the exotic car repair world, business is booming.

  • @bald_rusty_bastard3413
    @bald_rusty_bastard3413 Pƙed rokem +1

    Probably don’t have this problem in the US but here in Australia we get a fair few Chinese cars. For cheap cars their parts are very expensive. I once had to find a new EGR valve for a “ Great Wall “ truck , $1100 genuine , $973 for aftermarket. The truck at the time was valued at $3500.

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 Pƙed rokem

      Chinese cars aren't sold here in the US because they can't pass emissions or crash test standards. So instead all the automakers have most of their shit made in china and bolt it together in the states to call it "made in America."

  • @dondalrymple5794
    @dondalrymple5794 Pƙed rokem +3

    If you can’t afford it new you can’t afford it used.
    Expensive cars are expensive to fix.
    Who woulda thunk it?
    In further news water is wet.

  • @shovel_head80
    @shovel_head80 Pƙed rokem +3

    Endless money pit

  • @matt33876
    @matt33876 Pƙed rokem +1

    You can peel that molding and remove the debris behind it. It sits flush after.

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic

    4 struts brand new struts from HONG KONG and a TWO YEAR WARRANTY for $1,725 obo. $588 obo for both front lower control arms with bushings and ball joints for a TWO YEAR WARRANTY from HONG KONG.

  • @theEskalaator
    @theEskalaator Pƙed rokem +1

    I know that feeling. I recently bought a $400 car and already put $400 in maintenance (and $200 was just for an air box). Will my missery ever end?

  • @jlawlar
    @jlawlar Pƙed rokem

    you can send the radio out and have a new screen put in, new screen is 169, +399 to have it install @ factory radio repair

  • @jonworthing7467
    @jonworthing7467 Pƙed rokem +1

    Love Aston martins. but now you’ve said that about parts I’ll give them a miss. Love your videos by the way. Would love you to look after my cars. But I live at North Wales UK🇬🇧.

  • @Oscarphone
    @Oscarphone Pƙed rokem

    You're right wiz. I sold used auto parts for a number of years in my youth and I often heard that same refrain. "I didn't pay that much for the car!" But that's not the point. Maybe the point is you paid too much for the car. The parts are worth what the parts are worth. I guess the lesson here is to consider

  • @AdamAus85
    @AdamAus85 Pƙed rokem +1

    Same kind of coolant tank as in my Alfa 166. Thankfully my interior is about a 8/10 with only minor issues to fix (A, B and C pillar fabric glue failure). I've fixed all sticky plastics.

  • @aliengoth
    @aliengoth Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    Honestly it looks like a well-built car I would feel comfortable working on it

  • @streetfightertutorial
    @streetfightertutorial Pƙed rokem +1

    Very instructive as always. Exotic cars, exotic prices. Actually is called "Quattroporte" (double t).

  • @jamescollins408
    @jamescollins408 Pƙed rokem +1

    The rule used to be if you can't afford it new you can't afford to run it second hand. Seems truer than ever.

  • @volkris
    @volkris Pƙed rokem

    I appreciate that by fixing up an old car, well that's one more car on the road, one more car that has been saved.
    The wizard is pointing out that the price might end up being about the same in the end, but in the end there will also have been a car rescued from the scrap yard.
    That's not nothing!

  • @blabl590
    @blabl590 Pƙed rokem

    Good point weezerd!!! "Parts for a $200,000 car."

  • @DOUGEVER
    @DOUGEVER Pƙed rokem

    Edmund's report the full value of this vehicle with normal mileage (less than 130,000) in EXCELLENT condition is only approx. $12,000. Doesn't take long to wipe out any savings on bargain purchase when replacing $2,000 struts. Oh, and Car max offered $4,000 to buy it, LOL.

  • @facts9051
    @facts9051 Pƙed rokem +1

    E bay has 4 struts for 1400, motor mount 200 dollars. Used strut 300. Where you getting your quotes from?

  • @michaelnolastname5405
    @michaelnolastname5405 Pƙed rokem +1

    The Maserati name can be translated as "Car that travels more up and down than forward and backward"

  • @dufus7396
    @dufus7396 Pƙed rokem +2

    So proud of the $5 carts...Mrs Wiz rolls eyes

  • @cigarsgunsandgasoline8032
    @cigarsgunsandgasoline8032 Pƙed rokem +2

    Next on Hoovie's Garage: my roached out '07 Maserati Quatroporte!😂😂

  • @vqdriver
    @vqdriver Pƙed rokem

    @Car Wizard I think you can convert them to conventional Bilstein shocks or plug and play coilovers $1.3-5k range. Skyhook cancelling wires $500. I bought my mom a Quattroporte S with only 28,000mi. She’s coming from an E60 550i and this is a “shock” haha get it? Anyway, you give me courage to want to maintain these types of vehicles and not just Lexus or Toyota lol

  • @draganmladenov
    @draganmladenov Pƙed rokem +1

    Have you heard about coilovers ? For this car you get a full kit (4pcs) for about 1k.

  • @farnthboy
    @farnthboy Pƙed rokem

    Our compamy director had one of these he bought new - but he was smart - only kept it till the warranty/lease ran out then up graded to a new car - guess thats why he was one of the company directors.

  • @christinamoneyhan5688
    @christinamoneyhan5688 Pƙed rokem

    Wizard, back in 1970 I could have purchased from an aquatint a 1967 XKE Jaguar for 2000$ US. money, it had a bad transmission. Yes the car was in the USA. but because it was of foreign manufacture my father advised me not to buy it due to getting parts for it. I guess it still holds true. I also know you are talking about a different caliber car. Now if I could only find my driver and my keys to my Silver Gost, that’s right , Lennon had it painted with flowers.

  • @timw8228
    @timw8228 Pƙed rokem

    Coin change cost compared to having a CP4 pump replaced on a diesel engine that imploded and sends metal all thru the fuel system... $10K to $20K repair. At that point you have to decide do I put a for sale sign on it as junk. I've already tied up almost $8K for a CP3 conversion praying no metal went everywhere when the CP4 imploded idling. Videobob Moseley did a video series on a used Rolls Royce he bought. He got it at a low price but OMG the price of parts. Most RR parts are dealer only.