Something you missed. Damons words to cheese for the case what happens when they are unable to find Aemond are obvious. They are the title of the episode 'a son for a son'. Blood also repeats that fact later to Cheese after he holds a knife to helana's throat. ' A son for a son he said. Does she look like a f* son to you?' So it's clear that Damon mentioned Jaeherys as the backup plan. People like to give Damon the benefit of the doubt, but that's here not possible. They only killed Jeaherys because Damon explicitly told them so.
Honestly I have a feeling Tom Glynn-Carney is going to be the MVP of the season, his performance as Aegon II in the first episode is already top-notch. Everyone thought he was going to be Joffrey 2.0 but he's not, their are layers to his character. I really loved the petitions scene in the throne room you could tell he wants to be liked by the smallfolk but still doesn't know how to be "king" because he was never regarded as the "heir" or trained by Viserys but still he was trying. Every scene of Aegon II in the episode was really interesting. You could tell the showrunners and writers really want to explore this character more and Tom looks like he's having fun playing him. Can't wait to see his reaction when he finds out Jaehaerys is dead, bring on episode 2.
There is a good reason we don't see the Tyrells. Lord Lyonel was an infant when the Dance of the Dragons broke out in 129 AC. During his minority, Lyonel's mother, castellan, and steward ruled the Reach in his name as his regents. At the outbreak of the war, Lyonel's mother was judged likely to align the Reach with their "overmighty" bannermen, House Hightower, and the greens in support of Aegon II Targaryen.
When Daemon confronts Rhaenys, he says he wants to kill Aemond. A son for a son. Later, Blood says Daemon used the same phrase. While Daemon's exact instructions are ambiguous, it is fair to assume Jahaerys was plan B. I much prefer the book version. Not the additional psychological torture, but the location of the murder. It makes more sense for the murder to occur in the Tower of the Hand where the security wouldn't be as tight.
Helena doesn't know what her own words are supposed to mean. Her prophecies are so vague like Kassandras from the Illias. It's really only possible to understand the meaning of them after something has happened but they are too unclear and unspecific to act beforehand. If anything her words lead to more opportunities for ratcatchers to work without supervision inside the redkeep.
Disagree that Aegon was eager to get it over with with the small folk. He reminded me of Dany wanting to learn how to rule. Even though he wasn't the named heir, Viserys should have prepared him to rule. Rhaenyra could have easily died in childbirth. There is a reason you have an heir and a spare. Fortunately Aemond took initiative to prepare himself to rule.
Viserys failed to prepare his children to rule not only Aegon but also Rheynera. Rheynera didn't understand she couldn't sleep with other men because that would undermine her entire claim to the throne. Aegon and Rheynera act on their own impulses without considering the consequences of their actions. That's a repeating theme in the show.
@@hector-nu6glRhaenrya understood. She just didn't care. That's why she said to Alicent, "To question my virtue is an act of treason." She just feels entitled to do as she wishes. Note that Viserys had Rhaenrya as his cup bearer at his small council. That was to prepare her to rule. Aegon tried the same thing with Jahaerys in this episode. Also Note that on his death bed that he called Rhaenrya his only child. That's how he treated his children with Alicent, an after thought.
What exactly is Aemon still angry about currently? I figured he'd be a bit smug now that he has his revenge for his eye and then some. i can only see general loathing for Rhaenrya's other children, but that's not enough to convince me he's this angry about any of that. Is he insane like Criston or what? anyone care to (try to) explain? Please stipulate book version &/or show version reasoning in your explanation. Thanx.
Disagree that the affair between Alicent and Cole adds depth. Keeping in mind that this is a departure from the book, it ssems like another adaptation choice that makes the Greens look worse. Cole is guilty of his share of crimes in the book but breaking his vow of chastity isn't one of them. Further, not having Alicent witness Jahaerys's murder completely changes the dynamics.
it's understandable why Alicent is doing Criston, look at how her life has been since she was a teen, forced to marry a much older man, forced to make heirs while doing her duty, making sacrifices... but now becuase she's slowly losing her power over Aegon, she's latching on to Cole for control but at the same time fulfilling her needs and certain desires that she never fulfilled unlike Rhaenrya but again it makes her feel shameful, and sinful... yes she is being hypocritical but she's definitely not without her own complexities. I actually prefer Show Alicent to book Alicent just because of the route they are going with the character and the fact that Olivia Cooke's performance is so good to watch. Cole broke his vow of Chastity in the first season anyway and in Septon Eustace's account (fire and blood)
@@manvirshergill1739I didn't saw I didn't understand Alicent sleeping with Cole. My problem is that it is part of a larger pattern. Alicent sleeping with Cole makes her a hypocrite. The show seems to want the audience to side with the Blacks. They consistently make changes that slant the narrative against the Greens. I would prefer a more nuanced story. The entire add campaign for second two was about picking a side. But the show seems to have made picking team Green untenable.
@@manvirshergill1739how is Corlys a hypocrite? What about Rhaenys? Or Jace or Aemond? Or even Daemon? The only characters on the show who exhibit hypocracy are Alicent, Rhaenrya, Cole and maybe Otto. Regardless, the showrunners made a choice regarding Alicent and Cole. It's a departure from the source material. I'd be fine with it if these departures weren't always designed to make the Greens look bad and the Blacks look good. Example: Laenor is very much dead in the book. But if would be hard to like Rhaenrya and Daemon if they ordered his murder. So the show let him live. Another example: The is no evidence in the book that Cole was a homophobe. Yet the show has him kill a gay guy and laugh when Alicent made a crack about Laenor. Yes, Cole kills Joffrey in the book, but the circumstances are very different.
Something you missed. Damons words to cheese for the case what happens when they are unable to find Aemond are obvious. They are the title of the episode 'a son for a son'. Blood also repeats that fact later to Cheese after he holds a knife to helana's throat. ' A son for a son he said. Does she look like a f* son to you?'
So it's clear that Damon mentioned Jaeherys as the backup plan. People like to give Damon the benefit of the doubt, but that's here not possible. They only killed Jeaherys because Damon explicitly told them so.
Honestly I have a feeling Tom Glynn-Carney is going to be the MVP of the season, his performance as Aegon II in the first episode is already top-notch. Everyone thought he was going to be Joffrey 2.0 but he's not, their are layers to his character. I really loved the petitions scene in the throne room you could tell he wants to be liked by the smallfolk but still doesn't know how to be "king" because he was never regarded as the "heir" or trained by Viserys but still he was trying. Every scene of Aegon II in the episode was really interesting. You could tell the showrunners and writers really want to explore this character more and Tom looks like he's having fun playing him. Can't wait to see his reaction when he finds out Jaehaerys is dead, bring on episode 2.
There is a good reason we don't see the Tyrells.
Lord Lyonel was an infant when the Dance of the Dragons broke out in 129 AC. During his minority, Lyonel's mother, castellan, and steward ruled the Reach in his name as his regents. At the outbreak of the war, Lyonel's mother was judged likely to align the Reach with their "overmighty" bannermen, House Hightower, and the greens in support of Aegon II Targaryen.
Eryk was channeling Jamie with talk of conflicting oaths.
When Daemon confronts Rhaenys, he says he wants to kill Aemond. A son for a son.
Later, Blood says Daemon used the same phrase. While Daemon's exact instructions are ambiguous, it is fair to assume Jahaerys was plan B.
I much prefer the book version. Not the additional psychological torture, but the location of the murder. It makes more sense for the murder to occur in the Tower of the Hand where the security wouldn't be as tight.
Helena doesn't know what her own words are supposed to mean. Her prophecies are so vague like Kassandras from the Illias. It's really only possible to understand the meaning of them after something has happened but they are too unclear and unspecific to act beforehand. If anything her words lead to more opportunities for ratcatchers to work without supervision inside the redkeep.
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Disagree that Aegon was eager to get it over with with the small folk. He reminded me of Dany wanting to learn how to rule.
Even though he wasn't the named heir, Viserys should have prepared him to rule. Rhaenyra could have easily died in childbirth. There is a reason you have an heir and a spare. Fortunately Aemond took initiative to prepare himself to rule.
Viserys failed to prepare his children to rule not only Aegon but also Rheynera. Rheynera didn't understand she couldn't sleep with other men because that would undermine her entire claim to the throne. Aegon and Rheynera act on their own impulses without considering the consequences of their actions. That's a repeating theme in the show.
@@hector-nu6glRhaenrya understood. She just didn't care. That's why she said to Alicent, "To question my virtue is an act of treason." She just feels entitled to do as she wishes.
Note that Viserys had Rhaenrya as his cup bearer at his small council. That was to prepare her to rule. Aegon tried the same thing with Jahaerys in this episode.
Also Note that on his death bed that he called Rhaenrya his only child. That's how he treated his children with Alicent, an after thought.
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What exactly is Aemon still angry about currently? I figured he'd be a bit smug now that he has his revenge for his eye and then some. i can only see general loathing for Rhaenrya's other children, but that's not enough to convince me he's this angry about any of that. Is he insane like Criston or what? anyone care to (try to) explain? Please stipulate book version &/or show version reasoning in your explanation. Thanx.
Disagree that the affair between Alicent and Cole adds depth. Keeping in mind that this is a departure from the book, it ssems like another adaptation choice that makes the Greens look worse. Cole is guilty of his share of crimes in the book but breaking his vow of chastity isn't one of them.
Further, not having Alicent witness Jahaerys's murder completely changes the dynamics.
it's understandable why Alicent is doing Criston, look at how her life has been since she was a teen, forced to marry a much older man, forced to make heirs while doing her duty, making sacrifices...
but now becuase she's slowly losing her power over Aegon, she's latching on to Cole for control but at the same time fulfilling her needs and certain desires that she never fulfilled unlike Rhaenrya but again it makes her feel shameful, and sinful... yes she is being hypocritical but she's definitely not without her own complexities. I actually prefer Show Alicent to book Alicent just because of the route they are going with the character and the fact that Olivia Cooke's performance is so good to watch. Cole broke his vow of Chastity in the first season anyway and in Septon Eustace's account (fire and blood)
@@manvirshergill1739I didn't saw I didn't understand Alicent sleeping with Cole. My problem is that it is part of a larger pattern. Alicent sleeping with Cole makes her a hypocrite.
The show seems to want the audience to side with the Blacks. They consistently make changes that slant the narrative against the Greens. I would prefer a more nuanced story. The entire add campaign for second two was about picking a side. But the show seems to have made picking team Green untenable.
@@havok6280 everyone in the show is a hypocrite one way or another... no one is perfect.
@@manvirshergill1739how is Corlys a hypocrite? What about Rhaenys? Or Jace or Aemond? Or even Daemon?
The only characters on the show who exhibit hypocracy are Alicent, Rhaenrya, Cole and maybe Otto.
Regardless, the showrunners made a choice regarding Alicent and Cole. It's a departure from the source material. I'd be fine with it if these departures weren't always designed to make the Greens look bad and the Blacks look good.
Example: Laenor is very much dead in the book. But if would be hard to like Rhaenrya and Daemon if they ordered his murder. So the show let him live.
Another example: The is no evidence in the book that Cole was a homophobe. Yet the show has him kill a gay guy and laugh when Alicent made a crack about Laenor. Yes, Cole kills Joffrey in the book, but the circumstances are very different.