CONTINENTAL SportContact 7 vs MICHELIN Pilot Sport Cup 2
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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Jak jsem sliboval, tak jsem i udělal! Připravil jsem pro vás onboard srovnání nejužívanějších trackday pneumatik, Continental SportContact 7 a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. Výsledné časy jsou 1:51,35 pro CONTINENTAL a 1:52,33 pro MICHELIN. Vzhledem k tomu, že je Michelin dražší o více jak 50 % oproti Continentálu, tak jsem z výsledku mile překvapen. :D
Na zadních pneu mám stále pneumatiky Michelin, protože v mém (debilním americkém) rozměru se nic jiného nedělá.
As I promised, I delivered! I have prepared an onboard comparison for you of the most commonly used trackday tires, the Continental SportContact 7 and the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. The resulting times are 1:51.35 for CONTINENTAL and 1:52.33 for MICHELIN. Considering that Michelin is more than 50 % more expensive than Continental, I am pleasantly surprised by the results. :D
I still have Michelin tires on the rear, as nothing else is available in my size.
Thats a big statement from Conti. To take out MPC2R's that well, with a tyre built to compete against the MPS4's. I'm incredibly blown away.
Thx for the comparison. I was wondering how the SC7 would perform against the 4s or CUP Sport 2
Im torn between the 4s and the C7 for my Z4 m40i as I've heard the C7 although epic can wear faster than the 4s. Can anyone give a answer to this question 🤔
Amazing. Were these MPSC2 the Connect version with 240 treadwear the normal ones?
Did the CSC7 had the EVc marking? Were they by any chance MO? thanks
Hi, MPSC2 normal CUP2 with N0 (Porsche). And Continental with EV check, without any other homologation. MPSC2 CONNECT for GT350 are almost unreal to order in Europe, very unavailable goods.
unbelievable, good driving
Your previous best lap is 1.1sec slower on Michelin. How consistent is your time?
I am not professional driver and I have'nt race car. I only drove a few times on this race track. My fast laps are between 1:52 - 1:55.
Do you think that apart from technology are way better the SC7 than the PS4S?
For sure!
How was your wear after the sessions on the Contis? Mine appear as if they had a very very rough time.
Not that bad. After 118 laps the tires looked good. About 60% wear. I have racing geometry. The tires don't suffer as much.
How does Conti handle higher tyre temperatures that you get while track driving after a few laps? Also, does it wear much faster after getting hot? How is it compared to Mcup2 in above aspects?
After 10 - 15 minutes of driving on track, my SportContact 7 went from 2.1 to 2.5 bar (30 to 36 psi). On the next session I had to take it very easy the first lap to get the tires warmed up because the cold pressure was very low. Overall, I found SportContact 7 to have way way too soft of a sidewall for a 3500 lbs car (235/35 and 265/30 R19). Would not buy again due to a very soft sidewall.
This is kinda surprising as I've read that they had a medium/firm sidewall, but maybe this is too soft for a track use ?@@big-R
@@dca.911In the end this is not a track tire. It worked and was sticky but otherwise it wasn't good. Tire roll was felt from the drivers seat immensely. I've driven other street tires on track with better experience. Maybe it's in my case in particular and my sizes (235 in a 9 inch wheel and 265 on a 10 inch wheel), but the tire roll was so bad that I would call it dangerous. I will eventually drive these on track again to use them up but this time with even more pressure to make up for the sidewall. One last thing... when I put these tires on I immediately noticed how comfortable the car became in normal driving. A very soft tire.
@@dca.911i do not have a race car and i never did track use, but on my car i have SC7 and in road use i almost finished my traction wheel tyre in just 10'000km (6,200 miles), they are really soft also for road use, perfect for short use of the car but with high temperature and longer use they worn too fast. However (again just for road use) i found it the best tyre i ever tried even compared with michelin (not for mileage)
@big-R 265...on a 10 inch wheel....yeah that's the bigger issue. The tyre to rim aspect is wrong.
Is the Extreme Contact Force a better tire than teh Sport Contact 7?
I dont know, bcs Extreme Contact cannot be bought in EU.
No.
Did you use same pressures for both tyres?
Yes, 2,3 bar
Ok... So which one is the better?
It depends on what you require. The Conti has the best price/performance ratio but is not suitable for endurance racing as it is still a UHP road tyre. Michelin is very expensive and can withstand more pressure. I don't race and I can do perfect times with Conti, so it's an ideal choice for me.
Just ordered also SC7 for my Polestar BST. 1 fast lap at the time is good enough for me and for that I believe Conti is clearly better.
Hooray 4th gear is fixed. Are you running 305 30 up front or 295 35?
Hi, I am using 305 30 19 front and 325 30 19 rear :)
@ Same here. Rear bar is set to the softest front is 2nd up. I did get the DSC for the dampers and that helped with the fast rebound. Not sure if you can do it, but I have HSC hi-flo 200 cell cats on the car from fabspeed. It is noticeable and no tune needed. HSC is German so maybe you can just cut the stock cats off and replace with those.
BTW ford just warrantied my engine for a gen 2 for oil consumption. So now its has the R valve train parts.
Were you driving with SC7 on the front and Cup2s on the rear?
Yes
really?? and you don't precise it in the description??@
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Man te whole set was continental. Left continental and michelin right. 4 continental. 4 michelin, not mixed
So with wich tires you fell better and safer ?
Both tires are safe. Michelin is more precise while Continental is faster :)
@ You mean better steering feel?
@@gentomapentomoseis3155 Michelin has a racing heel cord and sidewalls, which is why it provides more precision in turns. But Michelin CUP2 is semi-slick = racing equipment :D Continental is daily tire, with racing benefits.
@ 9ok
I assume your michelin fronts are older and used compared to the continental fronts
This comparison is between Michelin and Continental, both tires were lightly ridden. This is my fastest round on both tires.
SC7 VS PS4S ?
PS4S is technologically outdated, it has no chance against SC7. The new PS5 (or PS S5) should be more competitive.
Don't know how to explain that but my SC7 on my Audi A5 felt really sporty and quick feedback.. now on my TTS they feel so lazy especially initial feedback is gone!.. do they decrease quality or what??? With economic crisis I can believe anything manufacturers can do lol
they are probably different sidewall sizes?
I can confirm your finding on being too soft and that the car "swims" around before the tires settle in their sidewall movements. My sidewalls are 35 and 30 and I found the experience disappointing. The overall grip is high... once the tires settle. I do actually wonder if different sizes drive differently. They were praised by the online reviews but I didn't find them to be great in my sizes (235/35/19 265/30/19).
@@big-R which leads to extrem quick wear just unbelievable sides are like 90% in only 3000km
@@big-Ris the correct size fit the tts on 19’ not 245/35/19. The speed rating is 93Y
Tyre pressure to car weight, and wheel alignment have big factors in how tyres feel. It's easy to have so many mismatched settings that make tyres feel junk.
Es impresionante ver a un neumático deportivo más rápido que un semislick
@ going to follow
Technological progress cannot be stopped. :)
@ Technology advances by days. I just ordered SP7 on 225/40/18, I'm very excited to try them, especially after watching the video. I'm waiting here or on Instagram to see how long they last
CZG IL byla taky dobra zabava 😁
Byla, je a bude :)
@ bude zase CZG? ]] Byla by to taky pekna jizda xD
@@zdenekbrezina9961 to né, teď už je jiná doba, hrajou se jiný hry a děcka už neumí farmit :D
Ya tenias las michelin y las llanatas no respondias a las curvas te da la sensacion que se va avoltear o se va y cuando aceleras en curva como que las llantas patinan evitando el contacto y ahora wue tengo las continental puedo hacer cirvas sin problemas tienen mas agarre y eso me da mas seguridad al girar y mas velocidad y una salids mas rapida ya no las cambio por nada y otra cosa las michelin muy seguido se le metian los clavos y se ponchava cada rato y desde que tengo las continental solo las parche una vez y no perdio nada de aire lo tenia ahi y ni cuenta me di hasta que me puse a lavar el auto las temgo en un dodge durengo
Joke?
Nope.
I just don’t understand how the sport contact is better than cup2s when the ps4s and sports are almost the same. Maybe tyre wear or something but no other test has results like this. Anyway thank you for the video different drivers will have different results. I don’t mean to discredit your test 🫡
Sportcontact 7 is super modern high tech tire, maybe there is the key :D Michelin plans introduce PS5S, so maybe that tire will be game changer or CUP3? Technological progress cannot be stopped.
The CSC6 is quicker on track than the MPS4S, would appear the SC7 have moved the game on considerably. Only time will tell if the MPSS5 can re gain it's crown last held by the MPSS