How to understand 60's/70's/80's GM blower motor circuits
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2014
- These are all essentially the same with manual controls. Common problems such as no blower or only working on certain speeds can be easily repaired once you understand how the different devices operate.
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Pretty amazing this video was posted 8 years ago and is still helping people out. Thanks, got my AC going again after this video.
9 year old video. Thanks a TON, exactly what I needed
Thanks... hearing you explain it helped me figure out how the high blow relay needs to be wired. I am replacing the old tin relay with a modern Bosch relay.
For anyone else who needs it:
85- ground
86- orange wire from resistor
87- battery voltage (20a fused, 12g minimum)
87a- blue wire from resistor
30- blower motor
I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post these informational videos. I'm refurbishing my GMC G35 vandura at the moment and your clips are really helpful in understanding the basic principals of my vehicle. You have a very good way of describing things. So thanks!
Your a really good teacher, very well explained and understandable.
Thanks! It's not easy to explain this stuff sometimes.
Video is perfectly explained in terms I can understand, I replaced the resistor and blew it again putting my fan on high, so I replaced the motor and still don’t have high. Looks like I need to check the relay. So glad I found this video
Nice job explaining how the blower wiring works. Very helpful.
This was an incredibly useful video, thank you mate!
I'm glad.
I'll get into the 68 today using your vid as a guide. Answered so many questions! Thank you!!
Brother I have a 77 Corvette and couldnt find ANYTHING to explain this system as clearly as you did... from so called EXPERTS! Bless you... YOU have solved MY problem! Salute
Best explanation on the wiring, Thank you!
Thank you so much! I"m working on my 1980 Silverado that has a bunch of wires cut and missing. The manual does not show this detail - you saved me!
Excellent explanation.. fixed my high speed blower after watching this ..thx
Thank you for making this. It's very helpful as I look at what missing in my 78.
9 years later, video is still helpful - you are right - this is the same sytem on my 85 Camaro and my 79 Caddy. My Caddy keeps blowing those relays.
Great video, helped a lot. Working on my 77 c-20 and the whole ac system is getting a rebuild from scratch so this is helpful.
Awesome! I have been trying to get my heater to work for a while now and I’m so glad you had a great vid to explain it!
Thanks for explaining this. I’m working on an 80 and the wiring has been hacked and butchered. The fan doesn’t try to work at all. This helps a ton.
Thank you for this video. My wife's 1981 Pontiac Bonneville's AC just stopped blowing on high speed today, now we know where to start looking.
Working on a 1981 Chevy C10 and this helped a lot! Thanks
Great video! Helped me improve my understanding of my C3 corvette system too. 👍
Tyler, thanks so much for your helpful videos. You are a good dude.
I have had college professors who could not explain their subject matter as well as you have done here. I'm going to call you Doctor fix it. Outstanding video explaining how this circuit for A/C works. im going to subscribe to you channel. Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much. This is exactly what I needed to know.
You have a teaching gift, glad you are using it productively
Well you just kicked stupid out the window and brought back common sense.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Fort Worth Texas appreciate you.
Blessings and more blessings to you and your family
Finally a video for vintage factory a/c.
Thank you.
I’ve been searching for a helpful video on this subject for a long time!
I have a 79 Camaro (Rally Sport) and the dash switch had burnt out and broken up internally so i finally found original switch ($50 for the models with A/C) but the pigtail plug from dash wiring is a little boogered where it got hot. Keep loosing connection on med. 1 and med. 2 at my switch. If i can ever find a NOS pigtail for it I will be aces then LoL. Ive considered cutting it off and just splicing on female slide disconnects but for the sake of simplicity and originality i haven’t done it yet. Thanks for being good at what you do, because of your videos my quadrajet that left me on the side of the road is now 100% rebuilt and running like a champ! All 4 barrels are doing exactly what their suppose to do. Once again, thank you thank you thank you! Ive also put many quadrajet haters in their place because of what you have taught me LoL.
Kris Denton what happened when the switch went bad? My blazer is blowing the fuse right after I turn those key, my best guess is the switch but I guess that why I’m here
Thankyou! This will help me out on my 81 k20 project. It's a wiring disaster
Even though this video is 8 years old, it helped me to finally understand that the blower motor was designed to be on low with the key on. It runs on LOW all the time.. OMG,!the hours I put into my 1979 GMC Caballero or El Camino, same basic layout. Now I can button her up and move on. Thank you very much. E The Swiss Army Knife
Right, gm refers to that as flow-through ventilation or astro ventilation
thank you for blessing the world with this useful video.
Thank you posting this, very helpful
Thanks for this, defintely gave me an understanding of what to look for
Your video helped me out a lot bro,thanks for posting. 🖒🖒🖒
Wow he explained the whole circuit for heater
made it sound easy great video.
Thanks for the explanation. Mine turned out to be the switch itself, which is really a good thing because I didn't have to monkey around with the resistors.
Subscribed and liked. Thanks for sharing this info in a simple way.
One other thing about those relays is that they also sometimes stay stuck on the on position with the blower running on max with the key out of the ignition and the heater controls on off quick fix is to tap the top of the relay till the contacs inside disconnect. Happen to me a couple of times with new and old relays in that same GM setup. Could save you alot of headaches trying to figure out because it did for me.
Thank you, question, I have exactly the same truck, and I was assembling the relay wiring, the 10g wire that goes to the block junction box is not hooked up and fan works fine, any toughs on this? I know that this relay needs power but seems like it’s getting it from somewhere else
Thanks for going through that so thoroughly!
Fantastic video. I needed this to fix my 87 v30. Thank you
You're welcome!
Thanks, this should help me figure out my 1978 G20 blower resistor previous owner hack.
Watching this was that breakthrough moment that let me diagnose my car.
Great video! Thanks!! How does the blower get power to always blow on low when the schematic shows the temp and a/c selector switches have a open on the input power from the fuse box when both are in the off (all the way left) position?
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have a question. The brown power wire at the connector behind the control switch in the dash gets extremely hot when running through the blower resistor at the 3 lower speeds.. It doesn't get hot when it's on high. The wire stays cool when it bypasses the resistor on full speed. It's only when running through the resistor that the problem occurs. I replaced the resistor and the wire still gets extremely hot. The air conditioning doesn't work because of a leak at the compressor. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Just a little tip, as far as electrical theory, voltage doesn't actually flow-it's only the current that flows (ie, electrons moving through the wire). Voltage is basically the difference in "potential" between the positive (12V) and ground (0v), and the amount of current that flows depends on the difference in voltage between the two points (12 volt difference), and the amount of resistance in the circuit (resistors, wires, and anything else in the circuit that resists the flow of the electrons). So basically, 12 volts doesn't "come in" to the motor, as voltage doesn't travel-it's only the current that flows (hence the rating of fuses in amps-which is a measure of the amount of current that the circuit can handle, before the wire would melt or catch fire). Hope that helps! Thanks for your videos, they're very informative, and I appreciate the friendly style as well
Thanks for the tip!
WhoSaidTyler You're welcome! And thanks again for the videos!!
Great job explaining. My 79 TA is blowing the fuse under the dash when turned to high. I will be ordering a new relay I think.
Is it possible to hook up a 3 speed/heater only control assembly (3 tabs on the back of the fan selector) to this same box in the bay (4 tabs on the resistor). I guess the only thing I'm bypassing is the hi-speed selection in the relay?
Super helpful video. Thanks!
I've unplugged the selector switch and made jumper wire to bypass the switch so I could hear the motor run on high but all I hear is the relay clicking. Do I have a bad selector switch and motor. Use to run on just low then not sure when but just stopped working all together. Any help would be appreciated thanks
Very helpful! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for this great video. I was replacing the speakers in my 1975 Cadillac Deville so I had to take the dashboard apart. After putting it back together, I realized the blower motor isn't working anymore when I put the key in. It only works on defrost now. What would cause such a situation? I'm guessing I messed up something when putting the dash back together, but I can't seem to figure it out.
On my 70 Impala, which is basically the same as yours. My fan only works on meds hi. The switch, relay, fuse, and resistor is is good. I think, as far as resistor, I took it out and doesn't look burnt up. I've checked continuity and it passes. Can a resistor of this kind look good, but still be bad?
Wow, great video! Thank you sir!
From the 12v distribution block,there is a inline fuse on the orange wire that leads to the relay. What size amp should thay fuse be?
Thanks for the great information on your video. I am working on the A/C of my 69 Camaro. The firewall has been replaced before I became the owner. The blower works but that is about all. Is there somewhere I can find diagrams and Information on a Astro Ventilation system. I would be thankful.
Thank you so much for this video!
I put in an ac delete panel on my 1971 Monte Carlo. I cut a hole in new panel and took resistor off ac unit and installed . The dark blue wire is not connected and the tab where it goes is broken off. The fan doesn’t work at all. I’ve been working on this for days . Any thoughts? I can hear a springy noise coming from relay ( the first metal box) when I flip selector switch to high but yeah it doesn’t work at all now.
You saved me hundreds....thx
Hey I’ve got a 1977 impala wagon. I need to test the ac pump so I want to force it to engage. But I can’t find a way to jump it to come on because there’s no pressure switch that I can see. I’d appreciate any help. Thanks
Please help need answers! I have a 79 Chevy Scottsdale C20 has AC I replace the blower motor I replace the resister ,the relay I’ve replaced the switch panel on the dashboard and what happens is when I turn the AC on and I turned it to Max AC it’ll come on sometimes and then sometimes The generator light will come on and it won’t blow at all and I switch it to vent fan comes on I’ve replaced fuses wiggled the fuse box and sometimes it come on and sometimes it won’t so I do not know what’s going on if you can help me I would be forever grateful
Thanks you taught me a lot.
The blower on '76 Buick Super required the left fender to be removed in order to replace the blower motor. The blow motor always ran, which shortened the life of the blower motor.
Really informative, thanks
Well done looks much better and man ide love to be able to leave tools outside!! Leaving a car out front is questionable were I live 😅
I need some help. My k20 81 has two selector switches one for my heater And one for ac. The ac one doesn’t work at all I found a burned fuse I replaced it and it turned on for a bit. Then blew. I disconnected the compresser wire and the fan doesn’t turn on at all I can turn the clutch and the pully spin
Hi, I have a quick question about my blower motor not running on high. When I switch it to high it clicks at the relay but doesn't do anything. I tried 2 new relays but still doing the same. Also I replaced the temperature control unit with a new one. Could you please give me your advice. It does work on first 3 speeds. Thanks for your help!
If it has a bypass for all non-max blower power inputs until the coil is energized, I can assume it's an SPDT style relay?
Great video. On my 78 Cadillac coupe, the AC blows only in low even if the setting is on High. But I noticed under the hood, the brown wire that's connected to the blower is disconnected and has a red jumper wire connected to the connector terminal that is on I guess it's the resistor, there is only 3 wires leading into the connector. I've never disconnected it or made an attempt to see what it does if I remove the red jumper wire and reconnect the brown wire in fear that it would fry it and then I'll have no more AC. Now I've used the heat and works on high setting but blows low? 🤷♂️ thoughts?
I have a 72 Riviera (w/ AC and manual temp control) and I have no low speed and no high speed but medium 1 and medium 2 work. Does that sound like a defective relay (no high speed) as well as a defective resistor (no low speed)? I still need to test the switch with my meter. Also, the "always on" low speed blower isn't working either.
DavidJWarEagle Since you know the fan itself is operational, you can rule that out right away. Your next test will be with your meter at the resistor. In low you should have current provided to the resistor. In HIGH the current bypasses the resistor and goes straight to the fan motor.
I am going to speculate that you have a bad fan switch. Keep us posted.
Any idea on why I would be getting power to all the wires on the resistor at once?
Awesome video man. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video explaining how the system works. I just purchased a 1974 chevy stepside a few months ago and slowly doing some repairs. When I turned on the heater and defroster, the system appears to work but there is a loud whine. Since the electricle seem to be working, I am wondering if best to start by checking the blower motor? Do you have any videos of actually pulling that out and cleaning? Or replacing? Thank you
A very good explaination of how this circuit all works. My problem is I have a 69 chevelle same wiring diagrahm with air cond. When I go down the road with the air on after about a half hour or so give or take 30 minutes it blows the fuse. Air is working fine which is drawing about 5 amps when running when I check the purple wire with the fan on high speed and the air on it will spike to about 18 amps. Could it be the resister or relay thats causing the blown fuse.
unplug the blower does fuse still blow?
Excellent video…valuable information
Glad you liked it
Thanks for posting this trying to fix Wifes 79 el camino blower wont work on high. Now I think I can figure it out!
Sure, just remember that the switch doesn't pass the current on high. It merely turns on the high speed relay.
@@TylersNeighborhoodGarage Just like you said my problem is the high speed relay. Thanks for your help.Do you know anything about gm charging systems of this vintage.my gen light is on.Alt is charging @14.5 volts?
Best explanation 👌. Thank you
You are welcome
Having an issue with my 84, if I take a wire and connect the battery to the fan it runs just fine but soon as I connect the wiring harness with the fan to the relay it doesn’t come on at any speed. I took a multimeter and I’m getting 13 volts to the red wire on the harness. The fuse is fine as well. I’ve done tried 2 brand new relays and still can’t get anything going. I cleaned the grounds as well.
Great explanation. When I turn the heat on in my 65 LeSabre, the blower kicks on only when I put into gear and start driving. Sometimes it'll come right on, sometimes cool sometimes worm. Today I noticed the orange wire coming off the resistor circuit attached to airbox getting so hot it lights up, melting the insulation. This only happens when the heat is on. Any idea where I should start? Thanks
Theres a few cables that coem fron the little black thing next to the blower motor can ya tell me where they go?
Hey man these videos are great. Pretty sure my switch is bad. Do you happen to know the specs for the resistor? I am getting 1.5, .9, & .7. The switch makes the relay click in high but blower doesn’t run. Motor runs when straight wired and fuse is good. Wondering if I replace the switch and high still clicks but doesn’t run the motor if it could be the connector wire from relay. I replaced the relay.
i have a 76 k10, i can hear blower motor running when truck is not running,. after starting and trying to turn fan speed up it does not go faster, no speed change. I dont know how to test ,where to start? Also my accumilater doesnt have that switch? on left side of it ,is that needed? thanks
I have a 79 c10 like yours fan works on low only I just got the truck two days ago and it’s cold, think you can help me out please?
Thank you , very helpful !
Thank for the video!! But my 25amp ac/heat fuse keeps blowing... very sporadically. Might blow as soon as I turn my heat on, might last a few days! New blower motor and high speed relay.. what am I missing?
Did you ever figure this out?
I cant place my fan on high.
My car isn't blowing hard enough should I change the relay?
My relay is clicking when i unplug it but the switch ic not sending any power to the blower on 1985 iroc camaro
My blower only work on Hi. Low and Medium doesn't work. So I replaced that resister. But it didn't fix the problem.Then I replaced the A/C fan blower switch, that wasn't there problem either. Any other ides?
This is a solid video and helped me fix my High blower ac setting easy. I'm wondering what the goop around the evaporator inlet pipe is. Yours looks pretty wrapped around and sealed. I have the same thing on mine but half it is melted away. Wondering what kind of stuff you used
Thanks. I didn't actually fool with that sealant. I think it is butyl sealer, similar to seam sealer.
My 78 is the same way, my switches aren't working but it's idling at one speed, I put new ground a new blower and the switch worked before but it's a new blower but won't turn on high, how did you fix yours?
super helpful video dude
Do u know the name of that purple plug
I bought an 85 caprice and mice chewed it up.. ?
Any tips on what would cause the fuse to blow on the blower circuit? My first thought is a short in the circuit, or maybe a wire grounding out somewhere on the body.
A multi-meter will be your friend on that problem. You can use it on the blower circuit to find whether you have a short to ground. Use the ohm setting, and connect one lead to the metal of the vehicle. Use the other probe and connect it to the side of the fuse holder that is NOT powered. If the meter goes from infinity to 0 resistance, you know you have a short. You can do that same trick for the wiring between the switch and resistor, and between resistor and blower motor. If no shorts then possibly the blower motor is dragging.
That problem exists on a 1983 Monte Carlo when you turn the gauges on the dash to heat the blower motor positive and the negative are registering hot on a meter can you help me with this problem
I got power to the resistor and to the relay but nothing in the two wires going to the blower motor on a 79 trans am, so blower isnt working on any speed
Hey brother I am having issues with my fuses popping when I turn my switch from the off position. I’ve put on a new relay and resistor as well as a new switch control. I’ve gotten it to run intermittently for about twenty minutes and then that fuse will go. I’ve disconnected the resistor all together and it’s working for now but the darn thing is new so I’m hoping that it’s bad out the box. How would I know if it is my issue causing fuses to blow?
When I turn the controls on the dash onto heat or air and go back outside to check my blower motor the negative and the hot are registering hot can you help me with this problem
Might be an old video but it’s greatly appreciated
Thank you
Which fuse it? Is it one of those metal case type fuses? My blower used to work on low, but now not at all even after replacing switch. Thinking it may be resistor.
I have a 1970 El Camino; the fan blower motor switch keeps getting hot and burning out upon occasion; I've replace the fan switch 3 times; I don't know why it gets hot; do you have a solution? Also, I recently purchased a new fan switch; and blower motor. I can change out the switch easily enough; but honestly, I don't know where the blower motor is located; I think it may be under the dash somewhere because when it was on, I could heard it running, but the design underneath the dash below the glove box is strange to me; nothing is obvious like it would be seeing it on the fire wall on a C10 truck.. If you have a video of how to replace the blower motor on a 70 El Camino, I would sure appreciate that help. Thank you.