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  • @XemnasTM
    @XemnasTM Před 2 lety +78

    Saw someone say this someplace else and I couldn't agree more honestly: the best thing about the Celestee is that they made the Elegia's price drop to ~ $400.

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem +5

      Indeed. Anyway the Celestee don't sound very different from the Elegia, and many people prefer the Elegia's more lively response. The Celestee uses the same drivers and general cup design, but with a more premium feel and finish, which obviously costs more to manufacture. Their tuning is more neutral making them more suitable for monitoring but you can achieve the same (slightly boring imho) frequency response with the Elegia using a little EQ, not that much in fact.

    • @Fermistine
      @Fermistine Před rokem

      U from Australia?

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem

      @@Fermistine USA

  • @matthewhilty4209
    @matthewhilty4209 Před 3 lety +41

    I like my Elegias , They have the perfect tuning after a long day at work. I have better headphones but sometimes the last thing I want is Treble Fatigue when I am spent. Plus the comfort is top notch.

    • @matthewhilty4209
      @matthewhilty4209 Před 2 lety

      @@RabbitConfirmed Yes I still have them and use them regularly but I had to upgrade from the stock cable to a Cardas Corpse Cable because it is microphonic, stiff and bulky.

    • @massty2851
      @massty2851 Před rokem

      Hello, may I ask what DAC you are using if any, I am considering these but im unsure which dac to use with smartphone and pc

    • @matthewhilty4209
      @matthewhilty4209 Před rokem +3

      @@massty2851 I am reluctant to answer this question because my DAC/AMP is insanely priced. I am using a Chord HUGO2 with the 2Go Module with a ROON core. I have heard good things about the FiiO BTR5 or (BTR7 new model) and the Quedelix 5k for people that are not willing to spend the equivalent of 2 or more mortgage payments on a niche audio device.

  • @cassiecat7038
    @cassiecat7038 Před 3 lety +14

    Have the Clear Mgs and have stopped looking into headphones for now; they are phenomenal, huge sound, great imaging and resolution, am going through my entire music library anew, plus beautiful to look at:)

  • @vm6038
    @vm6038 Před 3 lety +58

    Great comparison. I heard that Elegia sounds better with Celestee pads. Would be awesome if you could try it out!

    • @jimis3167
      @jimis3167 Před 3 lety +12

      I agree! He definitely should tell his impressions about the Elegia with Celestee pads!

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem +5

      I'm in the high-end audio business so I had the chance to try on all the pads that were made for closed-back the Focal audiophile lineup to this day. 2 years ago when you made this post the only other pads that would have fitted the Elegia were the Celestee 'sand the outrageously expensive Stellia stock pads. Since then the Radiance pads have available, as well as the sheepskin and sheepskin hybrid models from the third-party purveyor Dekoni.
      While the Celestee and Radiance pads offer nice comfort improvement, in terms of SQ it is not spectacular. You get more bass but you lose some treble at the other end. It's not too dramatic since all three phones use the same cup design inside and the drivers inherited from the original Clear (not from the Elear's like so many reviewers are misleading about). Then came $3K Stellia with its TOTL soft leather pads
      The bass improvement is very obvious but there again that damn high-mids suck-up ruins the party for me. Besides, those pads cost over $250 which is ludicrous.
      Finally arrives the Dekoni sheepskin and sheepskin hybrid, both of which costing $99 a pair. If vastly improved comfort, punchy bass that digs down low and clear but not sibilant highs get the Dekoni, you won't be sorry. Oh, and just in case some of wonder if the Stellia sound better than the Elegia/Celestee/Radiance the answer is yes, it does. Ballpark figure I would have to say that the Stellia sounds about 10% better than the Elegia/Dekoni pads. combo. Is it worth $2,000 more? You decide.

  • @nikolaygramchev
    @nikolaygramchev Před 3 lety +36

    Months ago I watched that review and it made me go for the Elegia. Now, after having it for months I can say I like it a lot, and my feeling for its replay matches what you say. But what I can add is that the Elegia sounds like big home system and this is a feeling that all my friends that tested it seem to express. I think Elegia is one of the best closed back headphones up to $2000.

    • @scottpolston6137
      @scottpolston6137 Před 2 lety +3

      Oh yes in deed couldn’t of said it better myself especially with a balanced connection I can’t wait to see what happens after dekoni sheepskin pads get put on them this weekend

    • @tonyjustensen706
      @tonyjustensen706 Před 2 lety +2

      @@scottpolston6137 So how are the Elegias with sheepskin pads? Did the sound change much? How about the comfort?

    • @jyexe525
      @jyexe525 Před rokem

      Hello Nikolay. Elegia is good for movies too ?

    • @nikolaygramchev
      @nikolaygramchev Před rokem +1

      @@jyexe525 I think for movies you need a bit more energy at the low end (bass). For movies you may go with DT770 Pro.

    • @jyexe525
      @jyexe525 Před rokem

      @@nikolaygramchev oh okay nice 👍

  • @immm2m
    @immm2m Před 3 lety +9

    Excellent review DMS! Just like few other comments below: Would really appreciate a review of the Elegia with Celestee pads.

  • @Dominari66
    @Dominari66 Před 3 lety +14

    I have the Elegia and run just a IFI Hip Dac and found it works well.

  • @yarbgreat1
    @yarbgreat1 Před rokem +12

    I bought the Elegia's and almost returned them. It felt so lacking in bass. Part of the problem was how it sealed on my head, bigger problem was the pads. I replaced them with Dekoni leather and it boosted the bass significantly.

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem +1

      Oddly enough I achieved great results with the Elegia by using the Dekoni Hybrid Sheepskin pads with them. Theoretically the Hybrid is meant for open-back Focals Clear and Elear but since they are only perforated on the inside ring they also do a great job with the Elegia compared with the originals. I also have the Clear and now both sound quite similar in tonal response, something I wasn't expecting from the Elegia. But Focal never made it a big secret that the Elegia was meant as starter base for upgrades. I use them in balanced mode so I never used the original cable, nor would I want to.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před rokem +1

      ​@kavemankarl2588 I never realized Focal intended the Elegia as a upgrade platform. Where was this mentioned by Focal?

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem +1

      @@Assimilator702 Like most other manufacturers Focal won't say in so many words if a model is upgradeable so as to not appear to endorse third-party aftermarket parts suppliers unless they have business ties with them.
      That being said Focal does provide pretty obvious hints by shipping the Elegia with only a single, short cable (compare this with the Clear's $500 worth of cables bundle) while they know full well that most people don't use such cans for OTG purposes. Also, they only provide so-so pads that beg to be replaced with much better ones that are more suited for this type of phone. If Focal had shipped with such befitting cables and pads their original price would have been close to the Clear's.

  • @brucalizer
    @brucalizer Před 3 lety +6

    These are genuinely such quality videos it's so impressive!

  • @reflection1119
    @reflection1119 Před 3 lety +4

    One of your best reviews that I've seen... Very informative and insightful

    • @chamade166
      @chamade166 Před 3 lety

      He’a a shill for Abyss and very biased.

    • @lordmoleiv
      @lordmoleiv Před 3 lety +2

      @@chamade166 He rarely compares other headphones to the ones from Abyss, despite him working there. And everyone is biased in the audiophile community, that's how that works. Everyone hears things differently and has preferences.

  • @pclijsters
    @pclijsters Před 3 lety +4

    Just bought the Elegia from FNAC in France for €499. Arrived yesterday. It has the new cable (shown here with the Celestee).

  • @bzhell4544
    @bzhell4544 Před rokem +6

    ive tried both and elegia suits more for acoustic vocals, live vocals. and id use celestee for r&b and more of dynamic music choices

  • @Twinguin
    @Twinguin Před 3 lety +5

    With that review and the price-drop for the Elegia as long as they will be available, it becomes a no-brainer.

  • @damau5687
    @damau5687 Před 3 lety +12

    Does anyone understand why focal's headphones often have poor driver matching and channel imbalance issues? Such qc problems certainly don't fit the price tags.

    • @Tsukino_u
      @Tsukino_u Před 2 lety +2

      I tried prying into my elegia's with the same issue of the drivers having a slight imbalance and as to my surprise despite the solid exterior build, the housing they use to fit the drivers are just extremely cheap and the wires they soldered are very prone to breaking, and so after a few bumpy rides on the back seat of a car they are cooked lmao

  • @fabiokelm
    @fabiokelm Před 3 lety +7

    Never hear the Celestee, but I love the Elegias. Playing them from the Element II, they sound amazing.

    • @wolandphotography
      @wolandphotography Před 3 lety +2

      good for metal?

    • @crftlz3367
      @crftlz3367 Před 2 lety

      @@wolandphotography any cold sounding headphone will help elevate the metallic timbre and/or separation of guitars tbh

  • @filovirus1
    @filovirus1 Před 3 lety +14

    Elegia is my best and most expensive headphone and honestly, it's a treat for me to wear and listen to music in the evening after work. I prefer Elegia's look over Celeste also. but I wonder how much better Clear Mg is over Elegia... and if Utopia is like 5x better than Elegia

    • @tally.klecko
      @tally.klecko Před 3 lety

      I love my elegias. The comfort, detail, and extension for $500 (used) is just amazing.

    • @tswizzy5526
      @tswizzy5526 Před 2 lety +4

      I just bought the Utopia after owning the Clears and people say that the Clear is 90% of the Utopia. That's just BS. I think they say that to help them sleep at night lol. The Utopia is a ton better. It's not 3-4 times better as that's how much more expensive it is but it's definitely not 10% better

    • @falcodarkzz
      @falcodarkzz Před 2 lety

      @@tswizzy5526 Amen. I have the clears and tried the Stellia, miles, miles better.

    • @joggometer5393
      @joggometer5393 Před 2 lety +6

      @@tswizzy5526 vice versa: People spending thousands of $ for saying Utopia is miles better than clear need this to justify their extremely expensive purchase...

    • @joggometer5393
      @joggometer5393 Před 2 lety

      @@falcodarkzz For me it's the other way round: While i heard the Stellia as a little more capable in resolution and an even faster response the tonality of the clear (original) is much more balanced.

  • @JohnOBryan
    @JohnOBryan Před rokem +1

    I have the Focal Bathys, Elegia, Celestee, and Clear. I found your review to be pretty much dead on.

  • @Dpace111
    @Dpace111 Před 2 lety +12

    Love the channel, I found the Elegia incredibly fatiguing which had me selling them after a short period. Interesting to see how varied opinions can be!

    • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
      @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Před 2 lety +5

      I've had mine for a full year and I agree they're incredibly fatiguing. Regardless of amp or DAC, I rarely use them due to being so shouty. Getting the bass to hit just right means everything else sounds way too loud.

    • @Dpace111
      @Dpace111 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Couldn't agree more. I would describe them as "beautiful" and they really worked for some genres. However, I never wanted to crank it.

    • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
      @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dpace111 Precisely!

    • @Dpace111
      @Dpace111 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Update: Just purchased Drop Dan Clark Aeon X and am loving the tuning. Much preferred to Elegia.

    • @mattrismatt
      @mattrismatt Před 2 lety +2

      Unfortunately, the Elegia's sound suffers greatly because of their stock pads. I promptly destroyed them in order to salvage their two-piece mounting rings: [1] a hard plastic piece and [2] a soft piece that sticks on the cup-facing side of the plastic piece. I then experimented with pad-swapping: over a dozen aftermarket pads, wrapped around the outside of the mounting rings. I concluded that the best sounding pads - by far - on the Elegia are the *Brainwavz XL Micro Suede.* To extend sub-bass and increase soundstage (and further improve comfort), I added a (4" long, 3/8" wide) strip of memory foam to the back area of the pads.
      The overall improvement from the stock Elegia is dramatic, to say the least. It seems that Focal just slapped on some cheapo-material pads at the last minute, without caring that they gimped the sound. No doubt, Focal would now recommend their Celestee and Stellia closed-backs, which (I'm sure) sound significantly better out-of-the-box that the (now-discontinued) Elegia. But for savvy Elegia owners, this mod does wonders. It sounds so good that I would bet that it's makes the Elegia better-sounding that the (stock) Stellia. (I don't think it would even be close!)

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle Před 3 lety +10

    Love my Elegia's with Dekoni pads.

    • @VaultF
      @VaultF Před 3 lety +1

      Same!

    • @Mark-fs7ok
      @Mark-fs7ok Před 3 lety

      Which Dekoni pads do you have?

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle Před 3 lety +3

      @@Mark-fs7ok Elite Sheepskin - totally changed the way I felt about the headphones.

    • @Yos115
      @Yos115 Před 2 lety

      @@LakerTriangle I can only find them for the focal clear. Do you know if these are the same pads?

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle Před 2 lety

      @@Yos115 all Dekoni Focal pads work on Focal headsets..

  • @WhiskeyWelk
    @WhiskeyWelk Před 3 lety +1

    Needed this comparison!

  • @tsurenami
    @tsurenami Před 3 lety +36

    My homie out here with several thousand dollar headphones and I'm sitting in the corner holding my dt880s

    • @chefsteve8381
      @chefsteve8381 Před 3 lety +5

      Nothing wrong owning them !

    • @badgerjeff6081
      @badgerjeff6081 Před 3 lety +4

      After 20 years in the hobby, I have come full circle to Beyers. They just work well for most music!

    • @g1g2g3g4g5gt
      @g1g2g3g4g5gt Před 3 lety

      @ With that mindset you'd better just own a 2$ IEM.

    • @Drinkyoghurt
      @Drinkyoghurt Před 3 lety

      @@g1g2g3g4g5gt Not $2, but $20 iems are already really, really good for the money (KZ ZS10 PRO), so good that I need to spend $100+ to get similar audio quality out of name brands, with the KZs beating them in build quality.

    • @g1g2g3g4g5gt
      @g1g2g3g4g5gt Před 3 lety +2

      @ Yeah but people spending $1000+ aren't looking for the best value, they may be interested in a particular headphone that they think is perfect for them or they just want to experience the improvements even if they aren't huge. Most of them have more than enough money and it isn't that they aren't buying something else because of how expensive the headphones are. Some people would even find spending $200 on headphones a waste of money.

  • @terrytran328
    @terrytran328 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you very much for the video, I just ordered the Alegia for $400.

  • @liujun050612
    @liujun050612 Před 3 lety +5

    Nice review! Would you do focal clear and clear mg comparison also? Thank you.

  • @kostast622
    @kostast622 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you DMS, I bought both over that last two years and could not agree more with you, big thumbs up from me

  • @devinmatteson
    @devinmatteson Před 3 lety +4

    Please expand the list beyond $1k. Not that I’m looking to purchase anything beyond $1k in the near future, but it would be nice to see those comparisons, in order to get a visualization of how headphones continue to scale. For instance it would be nice to see how much better you perceive headphones like the Focal Clear and Hifiman Arya over these headphones under $1k.

    • @g1g2g3g4g5gt
      @g1g2g3g4g5gt Před 3 lety

      DMS literally hates the Arya. He just has very strong opinions about them, so don't expect to see them in the top of a 1000-2000 price range list. The Focal Clear is a favorite of his, probably one of his favorite headphones in all price ranges as he put them in his "S tier".

    • @metalpiston1212
      @metalpiston1212 Před 3 lety +1

      He said since he currently works for Abyss, he wouldnt review anything high-end to keep himself from bias.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety +2

      I don’t hate the Arya, it’s not that special to me.
      I’m trying to keep my channel in the $1500 or under range for headphones. There’s some exceptions like my HD800S that I’ll probably make a video on eventually, but it’s mainly to avoid bias in the $3000+ range.

    • @devinmatteson
      @devinmatteson Před 3 lety +1

      @@g1g2g3g4g5gt yeah, but although he doesn’t particularly like the hd660, it still gets ranked high up in his list. His list appears to be less subjective than his tier list. So although he doesn’t particularly prefer the Arya, doesn’t necessarily mean that it wouldn’t rank well. It was just an example anyway.

    • @devinmatteson
      @devinmatteson Před 3 lety

      @@DMS3TV and that’s completely understandable and respectable. Would still be really nice to see the list extend upwards to $1.5k. But whatever you decide to do, I appreciate all that you do for us. Keep up the good work.

  • @danielgordon2166
    @danielgordon2166 Před 3 lety +7

    A heads up for anyone who reads this, the Elegia has gone on sale twice for $550 on Amazon in the past 3 days.

    • @BearMetro
      @BearMetro Před 3 lety +3

      Or you can get it open box for $419 on adorama. I wasn't a fan of the headphones though.

  • @themastroiannis
    @themastroiannis Před 2 lety +3

    had a pair of elegias for a couple months and sold them as i needed the cans for mixing and mastering. the overall presentation is too mid-frequencies oriented (beautiful, non the less) but lacks bass punch and transient speed and the highs are a bit too recessed for what i need them for. for pure listening pleasure they were really nice to wear and be immersed in beautiful sonic textures... but for studio work, these are not the ones. in fact i still prefer the Beyer DT1990 (even if around 10k they are way too bumped up!) over the elegias but the focal clear professional are now my preferred mixing headphones. very neutral, more bass presence and transient attack and more revealing of reverbs, compressions, and all kinds of sonic issues.

    • @kavemankarl2588
      @kavemankarl2588 Před rokem +2

      Indeed you are right. Like practically every audiophile-class cans the Elegia, along with some other phones ranging from $1K to $6K or so are not suited for studio use. The Clear Pro is the exception, since it was designed for the purpose. Personally my favorite studio cans are the ubiquitous Audio Technica M50x (by far the best in that AT series imho). Flat and neutral to sin lol. Not as comfortable as the Clear Pro and certainly not as well built but costs 6 times less and still delivers the goods, just not as well wrapped :}

  • @tylermack1786
    @tylermack1786 Před 3 lety +4

    Best purchase I ever made thank you

  • @didiervandevyver8987
    @didiervandevyver8987 Před rokem +1

    Very good to compare video. I might buy de celestee but now uhhhhmmm a think a go for the Elegia.

  • @lukew2173
    @lukew2173 Před 3 lety +1

    Have not hear Celestee, but own Elegia. Was considering listening to Celestee then switching. Very helpful video!

  • @Nonesuch6588
    @Nonesuch6588 Před 3 lety +2

    Thats exactly how I perceived the Elegia. You said it much more eloquently. I sold my Elegia and regret...

  • @theodorezurla496
    @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +7

    Did not expect the elegia to come out on top I'm honestly in shock 😳 especially since Andrew from headphone show stated the celestee is better by a fair margin...

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety +9

      Celestee has considerably better tuning. I just enjoy Elegia more.

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +2

      @@DMS3TV I respect your honest opinion, definitely motivated me to try my own comparison thanks 👍

    • @dmitris77
      @dmitris77 Před 3 lety

      I sent my Celestee back and got some Unique Melody MEST iem’s. Best decision I’ve ever made. Not only are they way better for sound isolation/portability, but the sq blows the Celestee away. Open backs are the way to go when it comes to headphones imo

    • @mariorock76
      @mariorock76 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dmitris77
      Did you return them without breaking them in? After 50 to 100 hours of listening, the Celestees shine a lot more!

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 Před rokem +1

    I have the Celestee and with a proper headphone desktop amp, they are fantastic.

  • @dmtphone
    @dmtphone Před 3 lety +3

    I really like my elegia, glad I'm not really missing out too much by not getting the celestee. I think my dt770 250ohm fills the neutral role for me until I can afford the ethers.

    • @DJ_BROBOT
      @DJ_BROBOT Před 3 lety

      Huh... The Beyers aren't neutral. Far from it, and I've owned two sets of em at 250 ohms

    • @sobechance
      @sobechance Před 2 lety

      Dt880 is what you want for neutral

  • @branco108
    @branco108 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for comparsion. I heard about elegia is very good for metal music. An you reccomend celestee for metal too? Elegia Will be discontinued and dont know if i should buy elegia ot celestee. I think celestee is replacement for elegia but revievers says it is big difference mainly in soundstage

  • @Morden97
    @Morden97 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't know what my problem with the elegia is but I just find them incredibly uncomfortable. I can't even focus on the sound due to how unbearable they are it's crazy. I dunno if my head is larger than average, my ears are too big or what.
    I feel like it'd be much better if the headband were just a bit bigger

  • @henriquematias1986
    @henriquematias1986 Před 2 lety

    you got so many amazing reviews!! i am wondering what’s your favourite headphones to make music? i was keen on the Ollo Audio but after you review i’m considering the sennheiser.. But i have foca speakers and love them so wondering if the focal headphones would be nicer than the sennheiser and better than the Ollo Audio!

  • @yogiwp_
    @yogiwp_ Před 3 lety +4

    Which has better dynamics? Narrow stage on the Celestee is kind of a dealbreaker for most of my music.

    • @dmitris77
      @dmitris77 Před 3 lety +1

      The sound stage on the Celestee is awful. Totally robs certain songs of their ambiance and atmosphere. Makes epic songs not sound so epic...

    • @ThisBirdHasFlown
      @ThisBirdHasFlown Před 3 lety

      @@dmitris77 is this the same case with the Elegia?

  • @scottpolston6137
    @scottpolston6137 Před 2 lety +1

    I bought my elegia about a week ago about 45-50 hours of burn in and just got a balanced cable for them paired with Ifi XCan soon to be zen can I must say and wire they are V phenomenal best closed back for the money B period I V only paid 329 for these on adorama as a OB I have dekoni sheepskin pads in the mail as we speak this is my new daily driver for sure they are so good I’m questioning my ownership of my 3 other wired headphones

  • @bakakafka4428
    @bakakafka4428 Před 3 lety +3

    My recently purchased Elegia has the same rubber cable as the Celestee, with black and silver accents.

    • @daguaishouxd
      @daguaishouxd Před 3 lety

      Yea my dealer also confirmed that they updated the cable - yet still very stiff!

    • @superash82
      @superash82 Před 3 lety +1

      Same here. They must have done a silent revision prior to discontinuing them

    • @pclijsters
      @pclijsters Před 3 lety

      Same here

    • @Chandlor23
      @Chandlor23 Před 3 lety

      My pair came with the old cable.
      The left wire started failing within a week.
      Rendering them unusable for the most part while I wait for my Hart audio cable to come in...

  • @a2raya772
    @a2raya772 Před rokem +1

    i would you compare Celestee to the Audio Tech R70x?

  • @jayschmahl9206
    @jayschmahl9206 Před 2 lety +3

    My Elegia's arrived today. Got them new for 399.00 dollar's. Plugged them into my A&B Norma 25 Astell& Kern and at first was disappointed, however, after a few song's they started to open up a bit and wow, they sound great. Very happy with these headphones. Any suggestion's for an inexpensive headphone amp to use with the Focal's and Astell & Kern dac?

    • @lord.of.veracity
      @lord.of.veracity Před 2 lety

      Use oratory eq settings with apo. Sound gets even more amazing

    • @andreaboi8566
      @andreaboi8566 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lord.of.veracity Oratory use harman target which only make it worse. I don't suggest anyway to add EQ, they don't need it. But if you listening crap music and you're crazy bass head...

    • @andreaboi8566
      @andreaboi8566 Před 2 lety

      Elegia need a bit of time for burn-in as you can read on the website. After 1-3 months they will sound the best, if you listen at least few hours every day. Astell& Kern SR25 looks don't have high gain setting in the EU... Maybe you can try with a balanced cable, you should get more powerful sound. If still is not enough, look at Topping NX3 portable amplifier.

    • @residentzero
      @residentzero Před 5 dny

      I hate Harman. I wish the audio community offered more options as it affects audio products. Qudelix presets are all for Harman , otherwise you have to manually EQ which I hate since I have no clue

  • @DrBeaf
    @DrBeaf Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dekoni Custom pads are so good on these. Order of magnitutde better.

  • @lavelis9088
    @lavelis9088 Před 2 lety +1

    What DAC/Amp would you recommend for the Elegia and/or Celestee? Been thinking about buying one of these but wanted to hear beforehand what DAC/Amp costs would come for the best experience with these. Would love if you could help me there.

  • @theodorezurla496
    @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +8

    Celestee vs radiance next? 😁👍

    • @BuzzinhornetCBR
      @BuzzinhornetCBR Před 3 lety

      I agree, it makes sense o compare with the Radiance as well. Heck, why not throw the Stellia in the mix also.

  • @jeofthevirtuoussand
    @jeofthevirtuoussand Před 2 lety +2

    Are the elegia a good upgrade to the hd600 and sundara?
    And the focal celestee are the best looking focal period, Change my mind.

    • @Dovndyr13
      @Dovndyr13 Před 2 lety

      Depends what you are listening to. Dont know about the hd600, but Elegia has more kick in the bass compared to the Sundara. But the Sundara sound better for classical music - especially strings. But since the Sundaras are open-back planar ad the Elegia + Celestee are closed-back dynamic drivers the sound is quite different.

  • @emarshallp
    @emarshallp Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe is a dumb question, but how you compare the Elegia with audiotechnica msr7b? Thanks!!!!!! Greetings from Rosario, ARgentina

  • @brothatwasepic
    @brothatwasepic Před 3 lety +3

    Going for closed back was a huge mistake for me personally. Clears are amazing though

    • @dmitris77
      @dmitris77 Před 3 lety

      Yea, the closed off Celestee sound/sound stage is very disappointing. I bought them because I needed something that I could listen to privately. I ended up returning the Celestee and got some UM MEST iem’s instead. Big improvement, and way better for sound isolation and portability. I’ll probably get a pair of the clear mg’s eventually.

    • @christopher1800
      @christopher1800 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dmitris77 I feel this whole soundstage thing is very much overrated. Headphones that are supposed to have a brilliant soundstage, make *EVERYTHING* sound like it has a fantastic soundstage / ‘spacial’, even where it isn’t supposed to be like that. Soundstage isn’t equal to “better sound”, it is just something that a lot of people seem to prefer (I don’t… I like a more ‘intimate’ soundstage). The Celestee is all about detail and neutral sound, which is why I love it. Oh and one more thing: I get the feeling that people just order headphones, take a few listens, and then return it (or not). I found that the Celestee needs proper playing time in terms of sound and even in terms of fit. What baffles me most is that the soundstage is mentioned in pratcially every review, but still people order the Celestee and then complain it has a bad soundstage. Why?

    • @christopher1800
      @christopher1800 Před 3 lety

      @dmitris77 Great return policy… I don’t think many stores would do that. :) I think when it comes to soundstage a lot is personal preference, and I do believe it’s a somewhat overrated quality. And a lot depends on what kind of music you listen to. I agree on the sound leak, but closed backs are also for not hearing external sounds coming through to the listener. The Celestee is pretty good in that respect. Anyway, I enjoy the SQ of the Celestee… to each their own I guess. I am thinking about buying an open back for the music that isn’t souding quite that brilliant (Pink Floyd may be an example), but haven’t decided on which one yet… and I need to save for it anyway. lol

    • @brothatwasepic
      @brothatwasepic Před 3 lety

      Agreed I think the Celestees are actually great closed back headphones for closed back

  • @abhtv1297
    @abhtv1297 Před rokem +1

    Wow. Great video. If your not using them any more. Ill take them off your hand.

  • @VerloKz
    @VerloKz Před 3 lety +4

    Try the Clesetee Pads on the Elegia :)

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +4

      I personally think it's the pads that are creating the Sound Stage difference, the elegia pads are probably making it sound wider since it's a more airy pad

    • @allansh828
      @allansh828 Před 3 lety +1

      I tried Elegia with Utopia pads. It sounds weird

    • @Reeeepicheep
      @Reeeepicheep Před rokem

      where do you buy celeste pads?

  • @viperkiller0071
    @viperkiller0071 Před 3 lety +3

    got the Elegia's and DO not like my DT 1770 pro's any more .. or the HD58x's :/

    • @jiyahbj
      @jiyahbj Před 3 lety

      Hey I was debating between the dt 1770pro and Elegia but some reviewers say that they start to clip when the bass hits deep!

    • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
      @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Před 2 lety

      I have the Elegia and used to have the HD 58X. I enjoyed the Sennheiser more even if the Focal sound twice as better.

  • @richardyuen5786
    @richardyuen5786 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a pair of Clear pros that I just love, besides having owned a bunch of Focal studio monitors. The Clear is fantastic for listening, mixing etc, since I run a small studio, but sometimes I want a good pair of closed-backs for tracking, specially with a live microphone. The clears leak too much sound and will be picked up by mics, specially condensers. I ordered and waiting for my Elegia close-back headphones. So I think different uses for different designs. Still, I do love the Focal quality.

    • @scottblues2332
      @scottblues2332 Před 2 lety +1

      Hi! Have you tried the Elegia already? How does it compare to the Clear?

    • @richardyuen5786
      @richardyuen5786 Před 2 lety

      Hi Scott, I really like the Elegia phones, it's different than the Clear pros. In some ways it's not as "hi-fi" as the Clears but it's OK, still quite good. It's light, comfortable, and being a closed back, much better for tracking. The mids are great so good for listening to a wide range of music. For the price I think it is wonderful. I find myself using it more and more, for studio work and just listening to CZcams stuff. If my mixes sound good on both the Clears and Elegia, it'll be a good mix. So far very happy.

  • @sajanpalanki3950
    @sajanpalanki3950 Před 3 lety +1

    If you plan to expand the list, could I recommend making a $1000 to $2000 different list, rather than just making the current one larger. I think that would make it easier for people to compare items based on price to performance within their given price range, rather than having to sort through the full gamut. With that being said, it would also be interesting to see how items between the two lists compare, because surely there are items below $1000 which outperform many above.

  • @craigslue
    @craigslue Před 2 lety +1

    Holy crap these things are dynamic and loud! Just grab me a new pair for great price and man I have to keep turning down the gain to get some useable volume control. Not to sure where the compaints about no bass come from?

  • @theodoroschronis2966
    @theodoroschronis2966 Před 3 lety +5

    You keep mentioning AKG361 as a reference in comparison to Celestee and that makes me happy to for having them and prevent me from buying Celestee.

  • @bakakafka4428
    @bakakafka4428 Před 3 lety +4

    @DMS did you swap the pads between them, and if so, what was the result?

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety

      Good idea

    • @yarbgreat1
      @yarbgreat1 Před rokem

      I put dekoni sheep skin pads on the elegia and it improved the bass tremendously

  • @chad6
    @chad6 Před 3 lety +2

    Zeos posed a link to adorama with the elegia posted at $399 last night. Idk if it’s still up but I impulsively bought them, they’re a steal at that price, super excited!

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety +2

      That’s a great deal!

    • @atravelingboy7995
      @atravelingboy7995 Před 3 lety +2

      Me too, great headphones came with Celeste style cable too :)

  • @kyveriver4316
    @kyveriver4316 Před 2 lety

    How are elegias for mixing? I produce hip hop and edm. Awesome video :D

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 Před 3 lety +2

    Would you consider the Celestee to be the closed back Clears (original) with slightly worse soundstage and imaging?

    • @dmitris77
      @dmitris77 Před 3 lety

      Not slightly worse. Much much worse. Maybe the narrowest sound stage I’ve ever heard. Almost has an in-your-head sound. I have iem’s with better sound stage

    • @reekeen8257
      @reekeen8257 Před rokem

      @@dmitris77 I second this. I had to sell mine after a few months.

  • @RizqiAngga
    @RizqiAngga Před 3 lety +3

    Just keep working until i can afford clear mg,, maybe on the next 5 years hahahahaha

  • @3therspark63
    @3therspark63 Před 2 lety

    Still not sure if DMS is 20yo or 35 ..... Awesome review man! Lovely descriptions

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 2 lety +1

      28 so right in the middle lol

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the helpful review. The Celestee is a great headphone in its price range. However the one concern I have is the smaller sound stage. I wonder if the Sennheiser closed back provide a wider sound stage.

    • @amentia
      @amentia Před 2 lety +1

      If you're talking about the HD820, yeah, they do sound quite wider, but they are a little weird in tonality for a lot of people

  • @SebaMene
    @SebaMene Před 3 lety +1

    Could you compare these with the Clear MG?

  • @Koniotaur
    @Koniotaur Před 3 lety +6

    I found Elegia really faitiguing on what I listen the most so older (poorly mastered) rock.

    • @abrahanneyra1657
      @abrahanneyra1657 Před 3 lety

      Interesting, so they are bright? I read diferentes opinions mostly about highs are fatiging like you said, and I was looking for upgrading my soft oppo pm3

    • @andreaboi8566
      @andreaboi8566 Před 2 lety

      Which albums? If you're listening them on Spotify, Tidal and other streaming services, usually they are remastered/edited with brickwalling compression.

  • @eh7378
    @eh7378 Před 2 lety +1

    Love my Elegia! Especially for the $350 I paid. Need to sell my HD700 now

    • @NaraukoFNH
      @NaraukoFNH Před 6 měsíci

      The Elegia is amazing, but almost nothing beats the HD700 for comfort. It takes the crown for all day comfort, beating even the HD800S and only the Audioquest Nighowl/hawk coming close. HD700 is also better than Elegia for gaming, but for most music the Elegia does better.

  • @marku2288
    @marku2288 Před 3 lety +1

    Would you recommend the Celestee or clear professional? I’m debating on either of these.

    • @thelonepainter4760
      @thelonepainter4760 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not him, but I have the focal Celestee paired with some burson op amps and......👌👍😁

  • @carstenrosemann6526
    @carstenrosemann6526 Před 11 měsíci

    I know the Elegia very well. It's not mine. I miss Bass-Base and there is too much Treble. is the Celestee darker and much more body in sound?

  • @Gamerlingual
    @Gamerlingual Před 3 lety +2

    How would you rank the Sony MDR-Z7M2?

    • @franksam8610
      @franksam8610 Před 2 lety +1

      I have the z7m2 and the elear I like both but pick up my Sony more..

  • @thispersonisdumb2712
    @thispersonisdumb2712 Před 3 lety +1

    Am I the only one hearing the weird bottle clacking in the background? That's a little weird.
    Edit: It is predominantly in the left ear, and I think it is part of the background music itself.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety

      I record my audio in mono, so it's in the music for sure.

  • @zubatia
    @zubatia Před 3 lety

    would you please compare the H9, H95 and HX family, thanks in advance

  • @Matasky2010
    @Matasky2010 Před 2 lety +1

    Would anyone recommend the Elegias for someone like myself who listens mainly to classic rock style music?

    • @andreaboi8566
      @andreaboi8566 Před 2 lety

      Yes, they are great with everything. You just need really high quality music, not the average music from Spotify, Tidal and other streaming services. Focal headphones not forgive bad mastering. Sadly most modern music on CDs and streaming is brickwalled with huge dynamic compression/loudness/clipping and most of the times sounds distorted and harsh. Elegia is really sensitive to distortion present on a lot of crap mastered music. With well mastered and recorded music they shine. I suggest to pair with dac/amp for the best sound.

  • @alexis1156
    @alexis1156 Před rokem

    I tried them, but they have some sort of metallic sibilance that just won't go away with eq in a reasonable manner. I could just destroy treble but that's not reasonable.
    I have also the shure srh1540 and they seem to respond far better to eq, I can get all the bass I want with clear mids and still have some good treble response.
    I have a feeling it's down to the actual material used in the driver, which is metal In this case for the elegia. They seem to give the headphones some sort of signature sound that I personally dislike.
    Do all focals have this type of weird metallic sound to it? Since their drivers are literally made of metal.

  • @gabsriel
    @gabsriel Před 3 lety +2

    DMS may be Tyll's lost son.

    • @gabsriel
      @gabsriel Před 3 lety +1

      @HERSEY BERRY I may be wrong but I don't think he died. Inner fidelity died but not him. He's on the road with his truck in a community thing.

    • @very7962
      @very7962 Před 3 lety

      Lol Hershey claims Tyll died. What a knob

  • @thelonepainter4760
    @thelonepainter4760 Před 3 lety +1

    I got some burson op amps and the focal Celestee.....👌

  • @callmevil
    @callmevil Před 3 lety

    A constant contrarian, perhaps those ear loops does affect how you perceive sound considering they do vibrate on some levels..

    • @dmitris77
      @dmitris77 Před 3 lety

      I totally agree with him. The Celestee is a very disappointing set of headphones. They make songs sound small, and closed off. Like listening to music in an overly treated phone booth

  • @MrVidification
    @MrVidification Před 2 lety

    with these ultrawide videos i'm always scrolling up to try and see the missing top half

  • @pizza4mac252
    @pizza4mac252 Před 3 lety +9

    I own both and prefer the Elegia

    • @fclp67
      @fclp67 Před 3 lety +1

      Where do you get that kinda money that you can afford to own two extremely overpriced pairs of headphones

    • @pizza4mac252
      @pizza4mac252 Před 3 lety +4

      @@fclp67 work 2 jobs

  • @RabbitConfirmed
    @RabbitConfirmed Před 2 lety +1

    If only the Celestee had the same design or was also more black/silver like the Elegia ._. Don't like that copper design.

  • @ericwilestech
    @ericwilestech Před 3 lety +1

    I really hope you get your hands on the MG

  • @HobbyTalk
    @HobbyTalk Před 2 lety

    Celestee I liked better than MG for tuning, but guitar sounded weird… bass guitar and guitar got hard to differentiate for me.

  • @TorigaOfficial
    @TorigaOfficial Před 9 měsíci

    Focal elegia of the new sennheiser 660s2?

  • @charlie44
    @charlie44 Před 3 lety +1

    Elegia is on sale in france right now for 500€. Are the additional 150€ compared to the Sundara's worth it?

    • @FlamencoOz
      @FlamencoOz Před 3 lety +2

      Sundara's sound better. But I use Elegia for work, Sundara for home.

    • @FlamencoOz
      @FlamencoOz Před 3 lety +2

      Also, they are on sale because they have been discontinued.

    • @charlie44
      @charlie44 Před 3 lety +1

      Actually I ended up getting the Clear MG. Just insanely good.

    • @roni801129
      @roni801129 Před 3 lety

      @@FlamencoOz what do you like about Sundara I can't understand ... I brought them back after 10 days of trying to like them ... I tried them with 3 different Dac-Amp and only got pain in my ears.

  • @Xzvsc
    @Xzvsc Před rokem

    Is celestee will leak sound to outside?
    I bought elegia for music recording purpose (monitoring). But it leaked to my microphone

  • @suryapramoddev
    @suryapramoddev Před 3 lety +2

    [Help] I'm trying to pick between Celestee Vs Radiance. Which one?
    Kindly route me towards the pick between the both.

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +1

      I heard both the radiance had much more bass so the celestee sounds more clinical in comparison, but that extra bass can be fun if you're into that

    • @suryapramoddev
      @suryapramoddev Před 3 lety +1

      @@theodorezurla496 Wow, really? I love that. Definitely into Radiance then. What Amp would you recommend with it?

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 Před 3 lety +1

      @@suryapramoddev the celestee is slightly easier to drive but both of them can run and sound awesome on anything the Btr5 is honestly a great pairing, and if you go with the celestee you can always get the ifi hip dac if you want that extra bass and honestly I wouldn't spend more money than that on an amp/dac to pair specifically for these headphones you won't hear much difference

    • @g1g2g3g4g5gt
      @g1g2g3g4g5gt Před 3 lety +1

      @@suryapramoddev You may also want to consider ZMF closed back headphones like Atticus, the bass is also awesome and they have better soundstage than focal headphones.

    • @suryapramoddev
      @suryapramoddev Před 3 lety

      @@g1g2g3g4g5gt woah? You really opened my eyes. Thanks bruh, I'll have a listen 🔥

  • @chillstep4life
    @chillstep4life Před rokem

    How does the Elegia compare to the elex

  • @Drinkyoghurt
    @Drinkyoghurt Před 3 lety

    Is it me or does the camera focus seem to be off in this video? Yeah, I can see the headphones and the cases clearly, but DMS is very blurry.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety

      Yeah. 1-man production makes things like that hard sometimes.

  • @heres_the_sauce
    @heres_the_sauce Před 3 lety

    They are currently on sale, I was considering getting the sundaras for $350 but these are only $50 more. How do they compare? Upgrading from hd400i.

    • @very7962
      @very7962 Před 3 lety +1

      Same I’m thinking of getting them.
      Worst case scenario, I can blame driver imbalance (which is not uncommon in focal headphones) and get my money back.
      I’m going for it

  • @sameermana2003
    @sameermana2003 Před 3 lety +1

    Great to hear that my elegias are getting some love. Did you see crinacle's review? He said it was the worst premium closed back headphone he's ever heard...I think he gave it a D😂

  • @AKL764
    @AKL764 Před 3 lety

    Please review Final d8000 pro!

  • @ChestermereToday
    @ChestermereToday Před 3 lety

    Which closed headphones do you recommend for mixing on the road?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety +1

      Probably AKG K361

  • @user-jo5fq5ln5c
    @user-jo5fq5ln5c Před 3 lety

    When you say the Elegia sounds amazing on some tracks, is that with or without EQ?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 3 lety +1

      Without.

    • @user-jo5fq5ln5c
      @user-jo5fq5ln5c Před 3 lety

      @@DMS3TV Thank you. One other thing. How good is noise isolation when wearing glasses? It's important for me to know, since I need headphones to stop my hearing loss getting worse
      I live in a noisy home where I have to listen to high pitch loud sounds for hours every day

    • @ahmadmatar9374
      @ahmadmatar9374 Před 2 lety

      @@user-jo5fq5ln5c the noise isolation is good

    • @ahmadmatar9374
      @ahmadmatar9374 Před 2 lety

      Even tho you wear glasses

  • @jordandeschenes7482
    @jordandeschenes7482 Před 3 lety

    last time I was this early Koss hadent even dropped the SP-3 yet

  • @ryanhostudio
    @ryanhostudio Před 3 lety

    smsl su-9 a good pair for A90? D90 sold out lol

    • @chefsteve8381
      @chefsteve8381 Před 3 lety

      Save your money just get a su 8 sound the same !

  • @gustawfreitag5727
    @gustawfreitag5727 Před 3 lety

    I think you should maybe add something to your background mabey plants now it looks kinda dead

  • @cp070476
    @cp070476 Před 2 lety

    Celestee £899 Elegia £450.. Which do you buy?

    • @josephduckworth2122
      @josephduckworth2122 Před rokem +1

      The difference between the headphones is minimal. Definitely not worth the double price.

  • @awood186
    @awood186 Před 3 lety

    would love to see the Shure 1540 compared to the Elegia

    • @awood186
      @awood186 Před 3 lety

      Also why would you not want to mix with the Elegia, if its pretty flat? Also sounds like it can be EQ'd pretty well.

    • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
      @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Před 2 lety

      Not the 1540, but I had the Shure 1840 and gifted them away after getting the Elegia. I've been making music as a hobby for almost 20 years and I wouldn't mix or master on the Elegia. They're not flat nor reference-tuned.

    • @awood186
      @awood186 Před 2 lety

      @@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST So what do you mix and master with if you gave away the 1840s and what are you using the elegias you have for

  • @Dovndyr13
    @Dovndyr13 Před 2 lety

    Just bought the Celestee for 650€ (700$) new, have the Elegia for more than a year. Curious how my ears will rate them after burn in side y side

    • @tecno4u31
      @tecno4u31 Před rokem +1

      Celeste in my country 840€.
      Elegia 380€.

    • @Dovndyr13
      @Dovndyr13 Před rokem

      @@tecno4u31 rarely buy things in my country. All my focal are bought in France and Austria

    • @tecno4u31
      @tecno4u31 Před rokem

      @@Dovndyr13 yeah. I live in Spain.
      You had/have both, haven't you?
      What are the main differences between the Elegia and the Celestee?
      Thanks!

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez Před 7 měsíci

      rate them bro

  • @xeri6760
    @xeri6760 Před 2 lety

    Elegia or Noire?

  • @virgopolution3378
    @virgopolution3378 Před 2 lety

    which one for mixing in the studio?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Před 2 lety

      Between these two, celestee. Aeon Noire would be worth considering also though.

  • @nikks1371
    @nikks1371 Před 3 lety

    Has anyone tried the elegia with some tubes?