The 747 That Flew Through A Forest And Survived! | British Airways 888

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    This is the story of british Airways flight 888. On the 11th of may 1976 a british airways 747 was on its way from london to melbourne with stops in bahrain bangkok and kuala lumpur. Fun fact this flight was operated by the BOAD or the british airways overseas division, I did not know that they had an entire separate division for their overseas operations. We join flight 888 on at night as it makes its way from bangkok to kuala lumpur with 104 people on board. The captain was the one flying and tonight he’d be landing on runway 15 at Kuala lumpur’s Subang international airport . Before the plane started its descent into Kuala Lumpur the crew went over the VOR approach to runway 15.
    This approach called for them to overfly the VBA VOR, it was situated 15 nm from the threshold of runway 15 and 1 nm to the north of the extended centerline. They had to pass the VBA vor at atleast 2000 feet after that they could head towards the NM beacon which was on the runway’s extended centerline. You had to maintain 860 feet as you passed over the NM beacon and only start descending when you had the runway insight and when you were on the glideslope. With the briefing out of the way the crew calibrated their altimeters and their radio altimeters, their radio altimeters would start warning them when they were at about 866 feet above the ground. It would start making a sound at 866 feet and then as they descended it would grow louder till they hit 791 feet.
    Soon the approach was under way the plane over flew the VBA VOR and the runway lights shone in the dark landscape, guiding the plane towards the airport. Having passed the VBA VOR the plane descended down to about 860 feet near their decision altitude. A warning sound played indicating that they were near their decision height. As this warning buzzed in the background the captain called for flaps 20 and for the gear to be lowered. Flaps are these surfaces that extend from the trailing edge of the wing, they help the plane generate more lift at low speeds. They come out in increments, for example at the flaps one setting they come out a little bit then at the flaps 5 setting a little bit more, and even more at flaps 10. You get the idea. As the gears came down one of the landing gear warning light became dislodged from its holder socket and so the flight engineer had to verify the status of the gear on his panel. Thus disrupting his checklist. The captain doesn't notice this but no one extended the flaps to 20. Neither pilot replied with flaps 05 confirming that they had done what the captain had asked nor did the captain follow up on this.
    As the plane approached the NM beacon the plane was carrying a bit too much speed as no one had extended the flaps, the flaps generate a lot of drag, ideally the speed should be a bit slower, so now the captain was doing three things at once, he had to line the plane up with the runway, maintain altitude and find a way to lose some speed.
    The plane was nearing the NM beacon and slowly the huge 747 started descending, the pilots in the cockpit were unaware of what their plane was doing. The plane overflies the NM beacon and the captain calls for flaps 25, the first officer asks in a confused voice “25 from 10?” remember he had not heard the call to extend the flaps to 20. So hes confused about the captain skipping flaps 20. But the captain didnt reply to the first officers query. In the cockpit each pilot went back to what they had been doing, the captain flew the plane, the first officer
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  • @Eric_Hutton.1980
    @Eric_Hutton.1980 Před 2 lety +497

    I can just imagine the talk between the estate owner and his insurance man. The insurance man with an incredulous look on his face while the owner tried to explain how a 747 knock down his trees.

    • @messiahsbythesackful6267
      @messiahsbythesackful6267 Před 2 lety +4

      🥴🙄😊👍

    • @foreverpinkf.7603
      @foreverpinkf.7603 Před 2 lety +16

      Insurances have been created to generate money, not to spend it, so in most cases, they find a tiny backdoor to keep their "hard earned" money.

    • @em1osmurf
      @em1osmurf Před 2 lety +17

      @@foreverpinkf.7603 in most cases they likely would go after BOAC. not sure if Lloyd's covers them, or if they're self-insured (read: the Crown). but you ARE correct. you'll notice if there is a suit won by someone against your insurer, your next premium is a tad higher. we were a long ways from Andrew in florida, but our premiums jumped next month.

    • @messiahsbythesackful6267
      @messiahsbythesackful6267 Před 2 lety +7

      @@foreverpinkf.7603 Speaking of insurance,.. all the homeowners who have their house insurance built into the mortgage payment who have deferred because of Covid? I'm just curious to find out.. My guess is that the banks wouldn't have allowed the policies to lapse, but...?

    • @foreverpinkf.7603
      @foreverpinkf.7603 Před 2 lety +2

      @@messiahsbythesackful6267 Good question.

  • @MasterVertex
    @MasterVertex Před 2 lety +622

    Trees can sometimes be a good additional layer of ground proximity warning.

    • @kommandantgalileo
      @kommandantgalileo Před 2 lety +131

      GPWS: terrain terrain
      Trees: Thump Thump Thump

    • @spxdesu
      @spxdesu Před 2 lety +22

      @@kommandantgalileo im fkn dying lmfao

    • @jtveg
      @jtveg Před 2 lety +4

      Lol.

    • @ThatGuy182545
      @ThatGuy182545 Před 2 lety +29

      It’s a little like the flight computer saying “PULL THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE!”

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj Před 2 lety +8

      @@ThatGuy182545 This reminds me of a video Boeing made on the retirement of the woman that voiced the cockpit warning sounds of the F/A-18 Super Hornet, also known as "Bitching Betty": czcams.com/video/yx7-yvXf6f8/video.html

  • @davidjb3671
    @davidjb3671 Před 2 lety +701

    It's fortunate they were rubber trees really - just bounced off them 😏

    • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
      @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Před 2 lety +153

      I see what you did there 😏😂

    • @chasarr
      @chasarr Před 2 lety +256

      That's why the planes are called Boings

    • @8o86
      @8o86 Před 2 lety +74

      @@chasarr i swear i just found the best fucking pun on the internet burried down among youtube comments

    • @bookcat123
      @bookcat123 Před 2 lety +40

      Whoops there goes another rubber tree plant!

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Před 2 lety +12

      @@chasarr
      I'm waiting for some Internet scholar to come along and say "herp-derp but it's spelt Boeing!" 😂
      Excellent pun sir, did make me chuckle!

  • @zew1414
    @zew1414 Před 2 lety +101

    My father worked for BOAC/British Airways for 30 years. Flew all of the world, and was lucky enough to fly Concord from JFK to Heathrow when I was 15. Always loved that airline. It seems everyone who worked for them knew my father. I miss him so much. Thanks for the video. Cheers

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Před 2 lety +1

      They let you fly the Concorde when you were just 15? Super!!

    • @JPFdsFds
      @JPFdsFds Před 2 lety

      To fly to serve, the camaraderie on old BA was something different

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy Před 2 lety +2

      Sorry about your dad. He must have been a special guy. But your memories will last forever. Nibody can take them away. Take care.

  • @Peter_Vidgeon
    @Peter_Vidgeon Před 2 lety +171

    At the time, some wag in the fleet nicknamed us as British Overtrees Airways.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Před 2 lety +10

      "What is the angle of BOA?"
      "I can't give you an angle but I'd say distance wise about 25 feet."

    • @christophershrimpton7627
      @christophershrimpton7627 Před 2 lety +11

      GPWS was also nicknamed the Game Park Warning System after the Nairobi incident and we used to refer to the Overtrees Division of British Airways.

    • @shoesofemelda
      @shoesofemelda Před 2 lety +3

      boad tree trimming service

    • @christophershrimpton7627
      @christophershrimpton7627 Před 2 lety +8

      @@shoesofemelda It was rumoured at the time that the entry in the tech log stated "there was a smell of burning wood emanating from the No. 2 engine". Interesting choice of words when you very nearly died.

    • @stuartmcconnachie
      @stuartmcconnachie Před 2 lety +8

      @@christophershrimpton7627 Thankfully the log neglects to mention the smell emanating from the captain’s seat cushion…

  • @mikemoreno4469
    @mikemoreno4469 Před 2 lety +180

    Fascinating. Yes, please, let's see the Nairobi one, too.

    • @rmw1109
      @rmw1109 Před 2 lety +6

      Am Kenyan and eager to see the Nairobi case

    • @orangekatzen8475
      @orangekatzen8475 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes please please

    • @Double0pi
      @Double0pi Před 2 lety +3

      I think it doesn't matter what Arun is referring to, if he asks if we want to see a video, the answer is always yes

    • @rmw1109
      @rmw1109 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Double0pi either way, the message got home :p

  • @Hissmannen
    @Hissmannen Před 2 lety +349

    My friend is a squirrel, he lost his whole house in this incident..

  • @davidjma7226
    @davidjma7226 Před 2 lety +34

    I was on a go around on a 747 on approach to Heathrow a few years ago as we were just about to land - very impressive change in trajectory when those four engines roar up. My Japanese seat mate was bawling her eyes out!

  • @Pigletsyes
    @Pigletsyes Před 2 lety +440

    I've got a few trees in my yard that need to be removed. By any chance do you have the captain's contact info?

    • @moonprincess500
      @moonprincess500 Před 2 lety +16

      IM DEAD🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Pigletsyes
      @Pigletsyes Před 2 lety +49

      @@moonprincess500 That's what I'll be saying when the captain misses the trees and hits my house instead

    • @Zakahia
      @Zakahia Před 2 lety +8

      @@Pigletsyes lmao you got me rollin'

    • @780brando
      @780brando Před 2 lety +7

      I also have a tree that needs to be trimmed up a bit

    • @Pigletsyes
      @Pigletsyes Před 2 lety +7

      @@780brando I'll send him over once he's done with my place

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 Před 2 lety +63

    "When in doubt, GO AROUND!"
    There's a big of luck, a bit of engineered sturdiness, and a bit of the trees being flexible enough and falling over to mitigate potential damage.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Před 2 lety +8

      and the engines didn't ingest tree limbs.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Před 2 lety +5

      "when the runway isn't there - go around"

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Před 2 lety +3

      @@johneyon5257 as long as you don't wait too long. I saw a couple of videos where the pilots did TOGA too late, both disasters.

  • @kevgermany
    @kevgermany Před 2 lety +65

    BOAC and BEA were two separate companies that were merged by the government into BA.
    BEA was British European Airways. BOAC British Overseas Airways Corporation, a descendant of Imperial Airways.

    • @steveknight878
      @steveknight878 Před 2 lety +13

      And nothing to do with BA - British Airways - until the takeover

    • @williamgreen5575
      @williamgreen5575 Před 2 lety +10

      Also, fun fact, BOAD is something you made up! Never existed. It was BOAC, Corporation not Division.
      30 seconds of Google searching would have given you this info, I mean, come on, the photos you used said BOAC on the side of the plane for gods sake!

    • @Rishnai
      @Rishnai Před 2 lety

      @@williamgreen5575 Regarding your original comment of some 5 hours ago on this video:
      There are many far more functional ways to draft a commentary on to a copyediting omission than you chose to demonstrate.
      I mean, come on, (sic)

    • @williamgreen5575
      @williamgreen5575 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Rishnai if he author hadn't have gone into detail on the BOAD business and then tried to pass it off as fact ('fun fact'), it wouldn't have been an issue, but the fact they never even bothered to check, just assume they must be correct, and just put the so called fact forward is what I was pointing out

    • @robertplatt1693
      @robertplatt1693 Před 2 lety

      Don't forget BWIA!

  • @bobkile9734
    @bobkile9734 Před 2 lety +42

    I want to know what the F/O was thinking. Captain asked for flaps 25. He questions skipping flaps 20. Captain doesnt respond, so what does he do? NOTHING!!! Wtf dude?!?
    Why didnt he set 20?
    Why didnt he say “screw it he must know what he’s doing” and set 25?
    Why not ask louder?
    ‘Nothing’ was literally the worst response he could have gone with.

    • @McFrax
      @McFrax Před 2 lety +16

      It's a bit confusing how he tells the story, but later part makes it clear that they went to flaps 25 ("F/O and navigator verified that the flaps were at 25", 4:10). It was just that they were already on a wrong trajectory, and no one was properly tracking the altitude, so it didn't help much at this point.

    • @robertstorey7476
      @robertstorey7476 Před 2 lety +1

      @@McFrax Didn't it make things spectacularly worse as the pilot had taken other action to slow the plane himself after the unnoticed failure to go to flaps 20?

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat Před 2 lety +1

      That part was particularly baffling

  • @Spidey-tb3tu
    @Spidey-tb3tu Před 2 lety +40

    The rubber trees were rubber-stamped by competing rubber tires on the landing gear.

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp Před 2 lety +5

    That picture at the begining looks like a proud mother jet watching her baby jet go off on his first day as a passenger plane and now I can't stop squeeing internally.

  • @JuusoAlasuutari
    @JuusoAlasuutari Před 2 lety +21

    Sound quality has improved noticeably from what it was 2-3 months ago. Content is excellent as usual. And not being afraid to revise and reupload if necessary is respectable.

  • @josephconnor2310
    @josephconnor2310 Před 2 lety +10

    Just proves how well-built the 747 is, that it could hit trees and still fly. Thank you for this post. Yes, I would love to see the Nairobi flight you mention.

    • @blackandgold676
      @blackandgold676 Před 2 lety

      Such a beastly workhorse!!

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 Před rokem +1

      Yeah the 747 can fly through a field of rubber trees, but the A300 can survive being hit by a missile

  • @MeMe-gm9di
    @MeMe-gm9di Před 2 lety +17

    When the lightbulb failed, I feel like that was enough reason to go around. Two people in the cockpit were completely out of the loop there, in a critical phase of flight.

    • @agps4418
      @agps4418 Před 2 lety

      i agree, too little critical thinking in a critical moment

    • @232K7
      @232K7 Před 2 lety

      Anything that requires the gear position to be verified AGAIN as I'm landing? Forget vu nn

  • @jayoneill1533
    @jayoneill1533 Před 2 lety +14

    As a passenger you can feel the flaps lower, how the captain, who was flying the approach, couldn’t sense he had no flaps extended is beyond me.

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Před 9 měsíci

      Probably so focused on other aspects his mind was shut off to that and because there were some flaps after the initial change in noise and aerodynamics he probably didn’t notice any more change equally if it was him flying he would feel the pitch change but possibly not if the plane is still on auto pilot

  • @BillyAlabama
    @BillyAlabama Před 2 lety +95

    You did a magnificent job with this story! A++

    • @chunkychuck
      @chunkychuck Před 2 lety +1

      He's great at being informative but concise 👏

    • @onlyme112
      @onlyme112 Před 2 lety

      A great investigator and storyteller.

  • @lightningstrikestwice6302

    This is my go-to channel! I watch boat channels Jeep recovery channels a couple of other documentary channels. But this is the one I always compact to and enjoy the most. The narrator is such a humble man. He speaks well the research is spot on. To me, he's the kind of guy you'd like to meet!

  • @TheRogueAdventurers
    @TheRogueAdventurers Před 2 lety +73

    I love how in the sim, the plane hits trees just before landing at the actual runway.

    • @Andrew-Kerr
      @Andrew-Kerr Před 2 lety +4

      Well there is a Clipper version of the 747, so a little clipping here and there, is only to be expected XD

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      I was in a military sim and demonstrating flight to an audience so to show off I crashed a 737 type plane at the tip of the empire state bldg. We all laughed but if that was real I'd have a heart attack or be dead. Actually it took quite precision to get the altitude lined up to just brush the antenna on top of the building. If it was a real miscalculation in real life it most likely would have been much lower and worse. I wouldn't want to try it.

  • @GhostSheep96
    @GhostSheep96 Před 2 lety +103

    Here in Germany, I've never seen a 747 doing forestry work :(

    • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
      @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Před 2 lety +34

      Probably a good thing tbh 😂

    • @GhostSheep96
      @GhostSheep96 Před 2 lety +18

      @@MiniAirCrashInvestigation true 😂 I Wonder if they had a deal with John Deere for special attachments for the 747🤔

    • @kommandantgalileo
      @kommandantgalileo Před 2 lety +8

      @@GhostSheep96 Chainsaw 747?

    • @GhostSheep96
      @GhostSheep96 Před 2 lety +3

      @@kommandantgalileo for example 😂

    • @CCCW
      @CCCW Před 2 lety +1

      just use scythes as winglets

  • @404namenotfound_3
    @404namenotfound_3 Před 2 lety +37

    Would love to see the Nairobi one too
    Great work as ususal. You are improving with every upload 👍

    • @douglasmegson3739
      @douglasmegson3739 Před 2 lety +2

      I think it was a Comet that touched down in the Nairobi Game Park 9 miles short of the runway. Pressure setting (QFE) issue (NBO 5,350 feet elevation).

  • @DragonKastle
    @DragonKastle Před 2 lety +9

    Thank you for including incidents where it’s not all death. Gives me hope I can fly one day. I have severe phobia.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      These mistakes are rare. You can fly with your eyes closed & wake up there. I see some people fall asleep before takeoff. I'm a window watcher and fly often. I find it exhilarating fun. I dont particularly love rollercoasters though even though they are on the ground somewhat. I flew to Las Vegas and got on one upside down ride. It was scary because I had never tried it before. Ill go again. But no plane ever felt like that plus you are inside in a plane. Try a short flight first to test the waters flutters. If you don't like it do not go back. My first trip was over water to Bermuda in 1973. Then whenever I could get off work. To puerto Rico then California Minneapolis Texas for military training on guess what? Planes F104 AD10 F15. Then cargo C141. With C130 next door in 1980. Then flight classes in Cessna 150. Then back to Las Vegas Hawaii & Florida & home to NY USA. Start local. Then expand. You'll see a lot of what you've been missing. Its fun. I never flew as a kid. I was 20. Now 69. Only watched planes land at JFK at 6 years of age.

  • @stephengrimmer35
    @stephengrimmer35 Před 2 lety +63

    TBF the Captain called flaps 20 and the FO ignored him. Everything else stems from that omission

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly Před 2 lety +7

      True but then the pilot instructed flaps 20 and luckily the FO questioned him and the Captain ignored him. Had the FO selected flaps 20 at that moment they would have descended even faster and further and impacted the trees terrain and, well, fireball. Plenty of blame to go around here.

    • @HDMediaUK
      @HDMediaUK Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevenspilly The issue was that the captain was trying to fly a speed that works with flaps 20 with flaps 10.
      When you extend flaps you don't just increase drag you do the flaps primary function, increase lift at low speed.
      If the aircraft was in the correct configuration, the glideslope would likely have been maintained due to the additional lift generated by flaps 20. However, instead of this, the pilot noticed he was going too fast and slowed with flaps 10. less lift, same speed, same pitch resulted in a greater sink rate and hey ho, the 747 did forestry work.

    • @blackandgold676
      @blackandgold676 Před 2 lety

      The captain didn't get a response and ignored that. It's on both of them.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      A flight years ago 3 in the cockpit one bulb of 3 out. 12 dollars angry capt. Sends FO down into dark hellhole to inspect for gear down configuration.no light. Nobody flying the plane. He hit the yoke with his elbow, auto pilot goes off & nobody notices quiet slow descent. Plane crashed gear down. Wrong focus.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      @@HDMediaUK They do some approaches in a stair step fashion. Flaps 10 20 25 30. They skipped a step and ruined the continuity. A plane that large cannot respond as rapidly as a sport plane glider. Now things should be a bit better with CRM and thorough education on the subject. Thank you for making us aware of how the tree clipper got its name.

  • @robertlindberg2938
    @robertlindberg2938 Před 2 lety +14

    Great presentation and very interesting. This happened 45 years ago when CRM training was not as developed as it is today. By today`s standards, you can call it total break down in crew coordination and teamwork. Also lack of closed loop communication. Seen smilar many times, but only from backseat in the sim.

    • @user-sm3xq5ob5d
      @user-sm3xq5ob5d Před 2 lety +1

      Kind of astonishing. I do sailing and there you have clear commands because otherwise you might get hit by the boom and go overboard.

    • @brianturner6729
      @brianturner6729 Před 2 lety

      @@user-sm3xq5ob5d Jibe....Oh !!! Interesting CRM arose from a David Beaty writing about accidents in 1969 - and he was in BOAC ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_resource_management also notes CRM developed and was adopted by NTSB and NASA especially after the disastrous Tenerife accident in 1977. We all make minor mistakes, but if they aren't picked up on an aeroplane they can become disastrous - or chop down a few trees if you spool up in time.

  • @aaronsakulich4889
    @aaronsakulich4889 Před 2 lety +37

    "It probably made the pilot's blood run cold" dude it made MY blood run cold and I'm just sitting here at my desk in sweatpants eating lo mein, holey moley

    • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
      @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Před 2 lety +8

      Now I want lo mein 😭

    • @aaronsakulich4889
      @aaronsakulich4889 Před 2 lety +3

      @@MiniAirCrashInvestigation I have leftovers from last night. I tried a place I've never been to before, and it turns out that instead of onions they use... fennel???? I've never even heard of such a thing before, but it was VERY NICE! Good luck in your lunch search :)

    • @Tuere816
      @Tuere816 Před 2 lety

      I was gonna say some stuff until I realised you said fennel and not fennel seeds

    • @aaronsakulich4889
      @aaronsakulich4889 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Tuere816 yeah, I opened the container and was like, good god, what's with these MONSTER slices of onion, and... I was pleasantly surprised!

  • @PelenTan
    @PelenTan Před 2 lety +49

    I actually laughed out loud when you got to the part about the plantation owner having to fill out an insurance claim!

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Před 2 lety +6

      Reminds me of some friends from Providence RI who had a circus elephant leave a parade and sit on their Volkswagen Beetle and crushed the front of it completely.

    • @Dr_V
      @Dr_V Před 2 lety +3

      Most likely he didn't have to, the airline probably gave him up front whatever he asked for in order to avoid a much more expansive lawsuit (not only in terms of actual value, but also the associated PR headaches).

    • @daviddunsmore103
      @daviddunsmore103 Před 2 lety +3

      @@billolsen4360 Did their Volkswagen have elephant coverage on their insurance policy? 🤔

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Před 2 lety +1

      @@daviddunsmore103 nooooo, they weren't with Farmers.

    • @HolySoliDeoGloria
      @HolySoliDeoGloria Před 2 lety +1

      Kind of a juvenile joke. Vladimir may be right. I don't think it would have been a strange insurance claim at all, considering that the plantation was on the approach path to a major airport.

  • @loddude5706
    @loddude5706 Před 2 lety +59

    The Knights of Ni were somewhat disappointed with their Amazon-air-drop shrubbery . . .

    • @nongdarko
      @nongdarko Před 2 lety +2

      It's a shrubbery

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Před 2 lety

      @@nongdarko
      "Ahhh! 'E said it again!"

    • @edgarfriendly7571
      @edgarfriendly7571 Před 2 lety

      Hahaha - nice one! And they didn´t even get a path!

    • @reltney20
      @reltney20 Před 2 lety

      Actually they received 4 paths between the shrubbery…. They cut down the mightiest rubber tree in the Forrest with a 747

    • @duncandmcgrath6290
      @duncandmcgrath6290 Před 2 lety

      Aaahh Herring!!!

  • @TheAdeybob
    @TheAdeybob Před 2 lety +244

    I'd be interested to know if the pilots of the two aircraft were ex-military.
    Going through the records, researchers found some issues inherent with ex-military pilots who later become civilian pilots.
    Apparently, when emergencies develop, such pilots can be prone to defer to their military training, and try to deal with it 'on their own' as if they were in the cockpit of a fighter plane - and so not utilising the help of the other civilian crew, and even ignoring the help of co-pilots, etc. There's extra training suggested for ex-military pilots because of this.
    Does anyone know if this military-to-civilian conversion-issue was a factor in either of these incidents?

    • @V8King770
      @V8King770 Před 2 lety +100

      At least he didn't try to eject.

    • @TheAdeybob
      @TheAdeybob Před 2 lety +29

      @@V8King770 ...or bomb anyone...

    • @markotango54
      @markotango54 Před 2 lety +15

      Most British Airways - BOAC Pilots have a civilian flying background

    • @nerysghemor5781
      @nerysghemor5781 Před 2 lety +64

      Don't forget that there are a lot of other types of military pilots as opposed to fighter pilots. My dad had a very easy transition to civilian flight because he had flown heavy cargo jets and had a very similar setup to those on an airliner.

    • @messiahsbythesackful6267
      @messiahsbythesackful6267 Před 2 lety +13

      Good question, even fascinating, how early training can carry over instinctively.

  • @JasonFlorida
    @JasonFlorida Před 2 lety +9

    That just goes to show you how large a 747 is... They took out so many trees but the pilots didn't feel a thing!

    • @senilyDeluxe
      @senilyDeluxe Před 2 lety

      On the first photo, that VC10 (at least I think it is) looks like some corporate jet compared to the 747 behind it.

    • @someusername1
      @someusername1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@senilyDeluxe It's a BAC One-Eleven. It's quite a small aircraft.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      That would be a good ad... the plane is such a smooth ride that you can brush trees and not know it. Come on down.

  • @cypriangacki1676
    @cypriangacki1676 Před 2 lety +10

    Nairobi one please. Great work on this as always!

  • @benjaminmcclatchey9814
    @benjaminmcclatchey9814 Před 2 lety +17

    In late June of 1988 or 1989 the was a near miss at heathrow. A 747 from Chicago almost hit a 757 that was already on the runway. It made the evening news that night.
    Could you do a segment on it? My father was on the 747 which is how I know about it. Please let me know if you do a piece about it.

  • @anthonyglee1710
    @anthonyglee1710 Před 2 lety +16

    Nice video, thanks! Just to let you know it’s BOAC (not D) - meaning ‘British Overseas Airways Corporation’. They merged with BEA ‘British European Airways’ to form present day British Airways in 1974.

    • @ianoswald1605
      @ianoswald1605 Před 2 lety +2

      By 1976 the airline was British Airways however they were still operating as separate airlines using the pre merger operating certificates. One of the first areas to be merged was the total purchasing function in an effort to get benefits of larger buys. It was many years before there was total integration.

    • @busofmauritius8306
      @busofmauritius8306 Před 2 lety +2

      You clearly didn't pay attention to the video

    • @Wenlocktvdx
      @Wenlocktvdx Před 2 lety

      British Airways was in use when we flew to Melbourne in May 1973

    • @anthonyglee1710
      @anthonyglee1710 Před 2 lety

      @@ianoswald1605 Thanks, but then I’m not too bothered about operating licences - you’re talking about legalities. We all know airline mergers are complex and take time. Anyway as far as the consumer and what would’ve been on the news is that BOAC and BEA merged to form British Airways in 1974.

    • @anthonyglee1710
      @anthonyglee1710 Před 2 lety

      @@Wenlocktvdx Maybe that was a precursor to officially becoming BA. As we know, aircraft repaints can take a number of years. Eg AA and USAir, United and Continental. www.britishairways.com/100/story/heritage-liveries

  • @cargopilot747
    @cargopilot747 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the graphics starting at around 0:38 with the sun light appearing to shine through the cabin and on through the windows on the other side. Looks very realistic.

  • @royalewithchz
    @royalewithchz Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you as always for another great video sir! You really create some great quality content.

  • @oryxr5354
    @oryxr5354 Před 2 lety +3

    Always happy to see an upload from you

  • @maxhill7065
    @maxhill7065 Před 2 lety +1

    I liked your reenactment of the pilot scanning for runway lights with no luck, it was a really subtle but effective little bit!

  • @orangekatzen8475
    @orangekatzen8475 Před 2 lety +3

    Great job once again!

  • @deletebilderberg
    @deletebilderberg Před 2 lety +3

    Marvellous work sir!!
    AND a happy ending!!!

  • @CuriousMaker609
    @CuriousMaker609 Před 2 lety +10

    Sadly, In developing countries, farmers don't necessarily insure their crop unless the government has raised awareness about such things. In most cases, the government comes to the the aid.

    • @user-sm3xq5ob5d
      @user-sm3xq5ob5d Před 2 lety

      Is the airline the party liable? They (their pilot) did the damage.

  • @royharkins7066
    @royharkins7066 Před 2 lety +13

    I expect they were compensated with a rubber cheque 🥳🥳

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 Před 2 lety

      Well, they were flying a 'Boing' after all! (Joke stolen from another poster somewhere above and cannabilsed/ruined to suit my own janky joke!)

    • @senilyDeluxe
      @senilyDeluxe Před 2 lety

      and I bet the cheque bounced too! :-D

  • @TheImprobableIronman
    @TheImprobableIronman Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely loving your content sir. Great documentaries and the CGI video really adds to it. Nice work.

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline Před 2 lety +3

    Beautiful visuals !!!

  • @kekab.8161
    @kekab.8161 Před 2 lety +3

    Never even heard of this, thanks for posting!

  • @Top_Weeb
    @Top_Weeb Před 2 lety +2

    These videos are fantastic. It's clear you work really hard on them.

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Před 2 lety +4

    The thing about getting distracted is that it's nearly impossible to tell that you're distracted until something proves dangerous. Sometimes it's just a near miss and you can bring yourself back to focus but sometimes the very first indication that you're distracted is the end of your life.

    • @ProsperityEngine
      @ProsperityEngine Před 2 lety +1

      that is why i would never be a pilot. I get distracted too easy

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      Right. How many times did planes go down without the pilots knowing what happened or how? Tail fell off wing sheared off too close to ground before knowing it. Sudden drop.

  • @prakashlulla2311
    @prakashlulla2311 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic Video. Thank you for sharing with us all. 🙏

  • @edwardgeorge4881
    @edwardgeorge4881 Před 2 lety +5

    Lucky escape!👏

  • @OldSonyMan
    @OldSonyMan Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent, look forward to your next tale of aviation mishaps !

  • @Ananth8193
    @Ananth8193 Před 2 lety +6

    I was not aware that BOAC took care of international routes... Awesome video ❤️❤️❤️

    • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
      @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you!

    • @slobberybog
      @slobberybog Před 2 lety +4

      Not BOAC - BAOD. BOAC was British Overseas Airways Corporation and was merged with BEA in 1971 to form British Airways.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 Před 2 lety

      Montego Bay

    • @martinc199
      @martinc199 Před 2 lety +1

      @@slobberybog I worked for the newly formed BA. For a couple of years, during consolidation, the company was divided into the European and Overseas Divisions. I worked for ED but on night shifts, would eat in the OD canteen not far from the Concorde Maintenance hanger. Great times.

    • @oldmanc2
      @oldmanc2 Před 2 lety

      @@martinc199 TBJ/TBK? Best canteen!

  • @SJR_Media_Group
    @SJR_Media_Group Před 2 lety

    This happened in 1976. CRM was not practiced as it is now. Today, communication between cockpit crew is much better. Good thing aircraft was a 747, built tough, and almost idiot proof. I used to work for Boeing in Everett where 747 is built. Been all through aircraft during different phases of construction. Amazing plane.

  • @donnafromnyc
    @donnafromnyc Před 2 lety +1

    MACI, you get better with every new video investigation. Excellent explanation!

  • @nickyboam3406
    @nickyboam3406 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. Seeing the BOAC livery brings memories back.

  • @jmurray01
    @jmurray01 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't believe I hadn't heard of this one before. Another great video as always.

  • @catherinemorris908
    @catherinemorris908 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video as always!

  • @julianhendrik
    @julianhendrik Před 2 lety +6

    Great video! I'd love to see the Nairobi video. Keep up the good work :)

  • @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_
    @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_ Před 2 lety +3

    I love those videos. And I find it uncanny that the render at 0:19 looks so real. I wasn't paying so much attention and thought it was a real photo at first.

  • @deepakbanerjee9836
    @deepakbanerjee9836 Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice video. Like more of these. Thanks.

  • @orlovsskibet
    @orlovsskibet Před 2 lety +13

    Estate owners sign in the tree tops: Please call this number when you land.

  • @brianokello3832
    @brianokello3832 Před 2 lety +3

    Hello from Nairobi Kenya! Love your videos, so informative and entertaining!... please do the Nairobi Near miss, i'd love to see that!

  • @70slandshark47
    @70slandshark47 Před 2 lety

    On commercial aircraft, the turbofan engines are very resistant. They are designed to withstand foreign object damage (FOD) and continue to run to achieve optimum performance. Back in the early 90s, as a mechanic, I was called out to inspect an engine on a US Air 737-300 regarding a bird strike.
    It did quite a bit of damage to the C-1 fan section and the core compressor. The pilot was there also telling me during take off , he had injested a large bird and noticed his number 2 engine parameters all went down and came back to up to normal operating parameters. He told me that he wanted to continue on but thought the best of it and return to the airport. I couldn't believe it as I looked at the heavily damaged engine. My hats off to the pilots.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Před rokem

      He would not have made it far. He's lucky you discouraged him from continuing to fly then. They showed us a damaged engine on the base after a bird strike. Bones & blood all over and bent compressor blades. Strikes are no joke.

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome video, I’d love to see a video about the near miss in Nairobi!😸

  • @TagiukGold
    @TagiukGold Před 2 lety +26

    I've seen the aftermath of several planes that have done forestry work, but it often resulted in fire and funerals.

    • @ProsperityEngine
      @ProsperityEngine Před 2 lety +3

      yeah the end result of airplanes doing tree-trimming gigs is usually deadly. was not in this case , happily

  • @dannyjackson5883
    @dannyjackson5883 Před 2 lety +2

    This channel is great

  • @survivalhealthandhealingtv5651

    GREAT JOB...WELL DONE!

  • @taylorswift5246
    @taylorswift5246 Před 2 lety +2

    Lol I like watching ur vids before i go too sleep cause you have a very awesome story telling voice lmao

  • @dodoubleg2356
    @dodoubleg2356 Před 2 lety

    Good job on ur final comment about the owner of the trees 🎄🌴. I watch ur vids w/such focus so as not to miss anything, it was a nice change of pace for u to add a joke & some levity into it, ha. Can't wait for the next one. 😉👍👍✌️

  • @l2etranger
    @l2etranger Před 2 lety +3

    Perhaps one day you'll find the incident in Boston between 2007 and 2012 when another British Airways 747 had to realign its trajectory towards Logan International Airport from aiming at a tower in the communities of Everett and Chelsea.

  • @taketimeout2share
    @taketimeout2share Před 2 lety

    Seriously, you are a natural at this. Almost every video is very well presented, interesting and entertaining.

  • @BigWheelHawaii
    @BigWheelHawaii Před 2 lety

    What a Great Report and Video,,, Spectacular,,,, Job Well Done,,,

  • @bestboy138
    @bestboy138 Před 2 lety +29

    Hopefully that dude with the trees had Farmers Insurance because they’ve seen almost everything.

  • @andyhill242
    @andyhill242 Před 2 lety +7

    Yes, could we have a video on the Nairobi near miss please?

  • @nellawell4976
    @nellawell4976 Před 2 lety +1

    Made in America! Your doing a good job,Thanks.

  • @reteryzet3861
    @reteryzet3861 Před 2 lety +2

    Another vid upload yessss!

  • @tribalstyle138
    @tribalstyle138 Před rokem

    Im doing my very first 747 flight in 3 wks- so excited to ride this majestic monster!

  • @jamesjackman4638
    @jamesjackman4638 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes I would like to see a vidio of the near miss at Nairobi, and I really like watching your channel as it's so informative.

  • @Peter78730
    @Peter78730 Před 2 lety

    The best computer generated video I have seen to date. Narration is easy to understand and well spoken.
    I have one comment: you spoke of the near miss at Nairobi. In point of fact, it was a near collision.

  • @rickbanet4830
    @rickbanet4830 Před 2 lety +17

    One of our C-130's had a bird strike like this. Unfortunately, the bird was sitting in a tree when it happened.

    • @kolasom
      @kolasom Před 2 lety

      Funny!!! 😁
      From a 130 guy!!

    • @rickbanet4830
      @rickbanet4830 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kolasom Hey - it happened.

    • @kolasom
      @kolasom Před 2 lety +1

      @@rickbanet4830 Had a C-141 coming in to RAF Mildenhall in England. They called in an hour out: "Alpha-3 (broke) for deer strike"
      Huh? Bird strike??
      Nope. Deer strike. Was Santa now missing Rudolph? These morons hit a deer on takeoff from Ft Campbell, Kentucky, and then flew across the Atlantic Ocean. The right wheelwell was destroyed.

    • @rickbanet4830
      @rickbanet4830 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kolasom LOL - Now that there, that's funny.

    • @kolasom
      @kolasom Před 2 lety +1

      @@rickbanet4830 The aircrew was grounded. There's no way in hell they should've continued on, knowing they had hit a deer on takeoff. It took us 3 days to repair all the damage to that wheelwell. When it landed there was cooked meat in the brake pads, guts everywhere, and a frozen rack of ribs on the rear wall!! Yummy!!

  • @malcolmwhite6588
    @malcolmwhite6588 Před 9 měsíci

    Also a stunning testament to the strength of the 747

  • @billylain7456
    @billylain7456 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoy your videos!

  • @rubenhein9128
    @rubenhein9128 Před 2 lety

    The MINI-ACI registration is such a nice detail

  • @dimitarivanov3817
    @dimitarivanov3817 Před 2 lety +18

    The CRM in this case was top at some points. However I think the mishap was obvious and should they made a double check they would have caught that mistake. I am up for all possible videos of yours.

  • @torgeirbrandsnes1916
    @torgeirbrandsnes1916 Před 2 lety

    Great vlog as always! There has also been airplane accidents in Scandinavia too. In 1970/71 a Malev plane crashed short rwy 22 and landed in the drink. The rwy at Gøteborg Torslanda managed to get to two NB DC-6s w/o due to hard landings. This was in the late 60s. A DC-8 landed in the drink in 1969 at LAX due to a burned out light. Heard it before? A russian TU-154 CFIT at LYR/ENSB.

  • @hydorah
    @hydorah Před 2 lety +1

    British Airways was formed from BOAC, BEA and two regional airlines in 1974. BOAD was a fairly short-lived, transitional structure of BA's operations

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah Před 2 lety

      I should add this accident occurred in 1976, the graphics in this video gives the impression it could be much more recent!

  • @mikehenderson631
    @mikehenderson631 Před 2 lety

    Congratulations on over 100.000 subscribers

  • @stanleybuchan4610
    @stanleybuchan4610 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It was called BOAC. British Overseas Airline Company. It may have been Corporation, but it certainly wasn't Division.

  • @thephysicsflight7841
    @thephysicsflight7841 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah we want a video on Nairobi incident... we'd love that..!!!! #flysafe

  • @dumbpilot2
    @dumbpilot2 Před 2 lety

    Excellent. Perhaps it's just me but the voice narration has improved greatly from previous videos..far less artificial and more natural inflections. Great job on the analysis . Congrats for an extremely informative production.

  • @BillHayden117
    @BillHayden117 Před 2 lety

    Very nice

  • @justinanderson9785
    @justinanderson9785 Před 2 lety

    Hey I really appreciate the videos you make! Over the last year you have really improved to a top professional level! I'd really love to see your take on Avianca 052 in New York sometime. I also remember seeing an old video of yours that must have been deleted about Northwest 255, this crash was rather close to be when I was 10 years old and I'd love to see you do an updated video on this one as well. Keep up the good work, I appreciate you!

    • @MiniAirCrashInvestigation
      @MiniAirCrashInvestigation  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I’ve removed a lot of my older videos cause the audio and stuff were super bad but I will be making an updated version

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MiniAirCrashInvestigation Yep love to see the Nairobi event🎉❤

  • @asteverino8569
    @asteverino8569 Před 2 lety

    Wowie zowie. Great report.
    Yes the Nairobi landing would be good too.

  • @ouroboris
    @ouroboris Před 2 lety +2

    Yes of course I want to see a video about the near-miss at Nairobi!

  • @skuula
    @skuula Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for the story! As I know Asia, it was not customary for anyone to have any insurances in 1976.. so yes poor guy. The guy in Washington State who lost his almost new car to a flying lump of dead whale was however insured.

    • @lightningdemolition1964
      @lightningdemolition1964 Před 2 lety +1

      Actually it was Florence oregon. It's amazing no one was hurt in that. Maybe he could do a mini disaster video on that. It does involve a flying whale right?

    • @skuula
      @skuula Před 2 lety +1

      @@lightningdemolition1964True, I remembered it wrong ... yes the Whale that Crashed would be great to have!

  • @FastColin
    @FastColin Před 2 lety

    I'm a simple man, I see MACI post, I grab popcorn and watch

  • @burryhulbertjr1429
    @burryhulbertjr1429 Před 2 lety

    That's why situational awareness is absolute. And redundant backup. And always double x triple check. As a truck driver there is always situations available that want to destroy your world. We must be always vigilant. But show's just how robust the Boeing 747 truly is..!! Maybe that's why its Airforce One!!

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo Před 2 lety +5

    Almost rubbered out

  • @AcTive_AK
    @AcTive_AK Před 2 lety +2

    Great vid, had a good laugh at the pronouncation of "Subang" tho XD

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 Před 2 lety +3

    Montego Bay is a song that mentions boac

  • @aurtisanminer2827
    @aurtisanminer2827 Před 2 lety

    I cant believe I missed this one when it came out!