"The rain will not fall. " -"Oh? Why won't it?" "The clouds will burn." -" And who'll burn them?" "I will burn them." -"How?" "I will burn." -"One burning Cyberman is hardly going to save the planet." "Correct." I love this type of dialog writing.
Yeah it's interesting I did think it sounded like even if he'd made a commitment to protect Clara, he did still just have his emotions switched off, so his dialogue should be more mechanical. It did sound that way here, though he did end up going on to make a "rousing speech" to an army of emotionless people who literally cannot biologically be moved to action.
Though actually I did just see some speculation down below that the's passing on his revelation of love being about commitment and not just emotion to the other Cybermen, so as to remind them of their commitment to loving one another and just being generally good, so I suppose it makes some measure of sense. Still, the mind control aspect of the bracelet makes it a little unnecessary.
The Master is not omnipotent at all. Loosing all the time is kind of contradictory to that. The Master simply has a waaaaaaaay to high opinion of themself.
To a being that lives for thousands of years and can build up and collapse an entire civilization on a whim, as a treat for a friend. Most races pray to lesser beings than him. We are but playthings to a Time Lord.
It almost seemed like missy knew this was her very last chance with the doctor, and so it was less an attempt to subjugate him, and more attempt to see if the man she fought with in the war, was still in there.
if you were really paying attention, Danny was speaking very specifically to the Doctor and to Missy. the order of a general comment was aimed at the Doctor. When they argued before Danny called the Doctor general sir. I liked Danny. He saw right through the Doctor and I think that the Doctor respected Danny for that.
Yes, the Master is a lunatic, but the Doctor is not the General, by his own design. It was Missy who was trying to recruit him as her/his General, by giving him the command bracelet.
@@laurenceroberts5239 He was both right and wrong. The Doctor isn't an actual general - but he _does_ think like an officer and has sacrificed people if it's for what he believes is the greater good. That's what triggered Danny to think of the Doctor as an officer.
And where Danny got it so wrong is The Doctor has the experience of doing it with willing people and friends. He didn't send them off as fodder. They fought with him willing and gave their lives to do so. There by showing Danny's lack of experience and understanding of what war is really like .
I don't know why I watch this. It is a physical impossibility. I simply cannot hear him say "The Promise of a soldier....You will sleep safe tonight" and not start tearing up. That simple two lines. just those two alone embody every single person who swears an oath to protect their country and I cannot hear it and not be hit with emotion.
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@@DarthAveragewe sleep safely because we know we're gonna die regardless of your selflessness or selfishness. We WANT to die. Existence is hell and humanity is the devil.
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I love how Missy is just "Oh, all my hard work, wasted," like she just lost something she didn't like much anyway. She just does not seem to care at all.
She didn't wanted the army, she just wanted to prove her point, and the doctor poved it wrong. The army was just a mean to an end she didn't acrchived, so she didn't care about it.
got to add the sassy tone to the "oh, all my hard work, wasted" then follow it up by saying "well time to leave, i got another thingy to do somewhere else, la de da" XD
I mean they'd already done the whole "danger clouds threatening the planet" thing before and that time, they showed multiple shots of the Earth from space and from city skylines. They COULD have edited those scenes but I think many of us would have noticed. "Danger clouds threatening the human race getting burned up" has now been in 2 episodes
Where was the machine he used anyway ? I mean even if the Doctor doesn't want to command them because he's an idiot, led by Danny it was still an army of good guys to defend earth more efficiently than Unit or Torchwood so using the machine that burnt Atmos and save those particular cybermen would have made sense
@@prof-eon That machine was destroyed aboard the Sontaran ship, as well as the creator of the device. The Doctor doesn't want to command an army at all, because it's simply wrong to do that. The Doctor does what he does because he's kind, not because it's the most efficient way.
@@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 but it is logical to have defenses yes? Therefore we have brave warriors/soldiers who answer the call. They protect and eliminate threats to the people. Though, thier very existence is the reason they wield the sword.
This moment reminded me of character line from another vide. “In death we protect.” “Our service eternal, our sacrifice infinite, our regrets absent” Astoshan
This is the promise of every man and woman in the military of every nation,the promise that everyone else will sleep safe. A promise they will lay down their lives for even after their watch is over.
That comment makes no sense whatsoever. The job of a solider is to kill other soldiers. That means no matter how you look at it, one side or the other definitly will not "sleep safe" at night.
The job of a soldier is to defend his people. Yes to do that violent men must do violent things. so that their side sleeps in safety. this is the nature of being a soldier. In this case , they are sacrificing themselves to save those they love from this rain. perfectly appropriate.
1 Of The Undying Oh yeah, an explosion of that size and heat would evaporate flesh and metal, and most likely change the climate of the earth for a while.
Rocket boots and similar stuff always amused me, because where's the fuel stored? The amount of fuel they would have needed to expend in order to get high enough to meet those clouds wouldn't have fitted inside their armor unless they were almost completely empty. And I think I'm probably being optimistic in that estimate. lol (Yes, it's still a fun scene. Willing suspension of disbelief and all that)
Danny: I will burn them. Missy: How? Danny: I will burn. Missy: One burning cyberman is hardly gonna save the earth. Danny: Correct. *insert speech here* I think I got the speech part. So he said one burning cyberman couldn't save the earth. Yet although he no longer had the emotions, he promised Clara that he loved her. "Love is a promise." So to speak. They say that Love burns with a passion. So pretty much what he'd done by giving that speech was reminded all those cybermen that "Love is a Promise." and that if they love each other (because a lot were most likely in some sort of relationship and some might have even had family) then they should burn to save the earth.
It's a great double meaning. Not only is it a rebuke of her metaphorically, but also literal. One burning Cyberman don't do the job. But billions will do just fine.
I am... A dog soldier contrary for the northern Cheyenne tribe, and army for the United States, for some reason, this resonated with me. Almost made me cry.
What courage Danny Pink had after the Doctor gave him a device to enable him to control the Cybermen and order them to join him in saving Earth from Missy's sinister scheme.
This is part of why moffet was my favorite new who director Whether it was him writing these speeches Or someone else Whoever was writing them did one hell of a job Like honestly They need to make a job of writing speeches like this
@2020Surya S315 Everybody who's starting their own streaming service is pulling their content from Netflix. BBC with Doctor Who and probably Sherlock and Luthor next. Disney with their movies, TV shows and MCU series bit by bit.
Seeing the reactions created I'd say it was pretty good writing with solid entertaining acting. Glad Danny was given the hero send-off he truly deserved.
I have to agree. If Nick Courtney were still alive he could have recorded that and played it through a Cyber-mask. But yeah, this scene would have had a lot more emotional impact if it was the Brig who led the Cybermen to save the world, especially considering his history with them.
i dont think so, the point of Danny is to show the audience that the doctor is a general who leads his troops, albeit Moffat did this poorly, many of the remarks Danny makes throughout the season are supposed to build up to this moment (albeit done very poorly). However Moffat is really good at writing small moments of dialogue between characters especially the earlier scene where the Danny says "didnt one of those beautiful speeches disappear in the face of a tactical advantage"
I love this scene because that Danny proved a point in this episode. the cybermen born from Missy's plan weren't just mindless drones following commands. no they all were people who followed him in saving the planet they once lived on.
Boy that first season for Peter’s had a lot of soldier themed episodes, the mummy soldier, the Dalek soldier… that’s about all I can remember specifically, but I do remember soldiers being a big part for that season.
I love how Missy is just snorting around and it's all like "okay just finish that i have more fucking things to do". Also, her sassy while Danny says he will burn is great. Michelle Gomez deserved better in this finale, glady she had a better spot in season 10.
It's easy to get bored when you know how something is going to turn out. The instant the Doctor threw the controller wristband to Danny, both the Doctor and Missy knew what he would probably do with it, and both of them knew there wasn't anything Missy could do to stop it. So, yeah, she was like, "just get on with it," because she knew she had already lost.
2 questions: 1) You just atomized roughly 65 billion corpses. What's that going to do to the atmosphere? 2) What do you do now with all the empty graveyards? Bulldoze and start over?
This is the sort of complexity I miss from the current Dr. Who series, and to an extent, Capaldi's last season. In one season, Danny Pink became a full fledged character, and had a better arc than even Clara ended up with. He constantly fought the Doctor on everything, and only tolerated him because of his love for Clara. He started as an awkward, clumsy love interest and became a vital element to defining Capaldi's first season as his opposite. A true companion who never wanted to travel with him ironically. Even Bill Potts never got this sort of arc, she barely had a life outside of the doctor which only made her feel more one dimensional. Nardole was a foil, but didn't really grow per se. He challenged him, but mainly as a surrogate for River most of the time. So sad he only stuck around for a season.
In Danny and claras first scene he tried to explain to her what a soldier actually does, what a soldier actually is for. This is what he was talking about. The promise of a soldier is to guard you while you sleep. The whole season Danny has to defend himself as a soldier as judgmental people who just thought soldiers were humans daleks. P.E. showed them all in the end. Season 8 MVP It was all building to this moment.
Danny Pink was right about calling Missy a lunatic and was glad that she couldn't stop him and an army of Cybermen under his command using that special bracelet to make them obey his command to save Earth.
Good thing that Missy didn't try to find anyone related to Danny Pink after he and an army of Cybermen under his command with a bracelet he was wearing to order them around saved the Earth from the Doctor's enemy of his own race.
I've rewatched this scene several times over the years, and I only _just now_ noticed that the score is a slowed down and remixed version of 11's "madman in a box" theme. Huh.
"Good morning. Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind, that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences any more. We will be united in our common interest. Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, 'We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on, we're going to survive.' Today we celebrate our independence day!" President Thomas Whitmore July 4th, 1996 (from Ronald Emmerich's 1996 film "Independence Day")
I have to agree. The 'love conquers all' thing is just becoming more and more frequent in New Who. Remember when we actually had do be smart and work out a way to defeat our enemies rather than just channeling emotions to kill them? Yeah, me too!
0saintclark0 that’s the problem, Moffat sees DW more like a fairy tale, fantasy series than a proper scifi one. Science is usually put aside in his run.
Not even one mention of Rory or Amy Pond. They are dead and ended up as Cybermen exploding in the clouds. The one time the Cybermen were actually the good guys.
And an ideologically aligned subordinate to do the speech and give the orders so he can keep his hands technically clean and keep talking about love, probably.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 It's mercy to kill a Cyberman. All of these people are / were dead and are now reanimated as empty husks. The Season 10 finale explains why the Doctor hates the Cybermen so much.
modern era only. Going back Ian teacher and solider (supposidly) Ben Steven (1st) Jamie highlander (2nd) the brig, Sarg Benton, Capt Yates (and the rest of the UNIT team as guest artists) 3rd all soliders Adric math geek and super anoying kid (4th) Adric, Turlough school boy and alien, Kamelion android (5th) this is NOT a new thing! I was not a fan of Danny, but this was a very worthy send off for him!
The doctor: If i had a nickel every time I'd set the sky on fire I would have 2 nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice. (it may have happened more times. but 2 immediately come to mind)
I do love how *british* Danny’s military speech is. “Miserable lot” “this is not a good day”, the British military has been quoted as being a negative bunch of fuckers who work well and honestly, yeah, that fits the culture perfectly. There’s no glory to be had, no destiny to fight no grand scheme or anything of the sort. It is a JOB to be done, and it is a bad job, and he’s not gonna sugar coat, but needs must and they are tool that can be used. I know for Americans, and maybe other cultures too, this can be jarring because of the military celebration culture there, but our guys are just not so reverent of it all, most brits would call their service “a job” a good a bad a tough or fun whatever but a job. My mams old friend. Has quite a few many medals, some rather prestigious, where are they? Fuck knows, maybe the attic we aren’t *sure* but you know what he does treasure? A letter upon his resignation that detailed he was being rewarded for 35 years undetected crimes within military bounds, because he very much committed crimes, like breaking curfew, sneaking food etc etc and they never caught him. THAT is what he cherishes, being a cheeky lad getting away with shit. Danny here represents it well, boots on lads, breaks over time to do the slog. Permission to call your superior a bellend
Danny went out like a f*cking unit.
*salutes* rest well, soldier
Technically he was a unit one of many units.
Unified Intelligence Taskforce. Heh, heh.
"The rain will not fall. "
-"Oh? Why won't it?"
"The clouds will burn."
-" And who'll burn them?"
"I will burn them."
-"How?"
"I will burn."
-"One burning Cyberman is hardly going to save the planet."
"Correct."
I love this type of dialog writing.
The Doctor could have used his Atmospheric convertor (from Sontaran Stratagem episode) to clear up the sky! :)
@@lkiing its possible he no longer has it
Matt Jones He doesn't, It was destroyed with the sontaran ship in the same episode.
Yeah it's interesting I did think it sounded like even if he'd made a commitment to protect Clara, he did still just have his emotions switched off, so his dialogue should be more mechanical. It did sound that way here, though he did end up going on to make a "rousing speech" to an army of emotionless people who literally cannot biologically be moved to action.
Though actually I did just see some speculation down below that the's passing on his revelation of love being about commitment and not just emotion to the other Cybermen, so as to remind them of their commitment to loving one another and just being generally good, so I suppose it makes some measure of sense. Still, the mind control aspect of the bracelet makes it a little unnecessary.
How Missy just doesn't care at all is so obscene, a real insight to the Master's character.
The Master is a true example of an omnipotent being. And people wonder why God doesn't seem to care about us.
The Master is not omnipotent at all. Loosing all the time is kind of contradictory to that. The Master simply has a waaaaaaaay to high opinion of themself.
To a being that lives for thousands of years and can build up and collapse an entire civilization on a whim, as a treat for a friend. Most races pray to lesser beings than him. We are but playthings to a Time Lord.
It almost seemed like missy knew this was her very last chance with the doctor, and so it was less an attempt to subjugate him, and more attempt to see if the man she fought with in the war, was still in there.
Alex Banks AlexBanks
After the order of a lunatic line I love how missy went “exuseme”
Missy prefers being called 🍌 s
Funny enough I’m pretty sure he was aiming that one at the doctor, missy just didn’t catch it.
I've got to admit, this scene, paired with _that soundtrack,_ was pretty powerful.
Nothing makes a scene better than a good musical score.
„...Nor the whim of a lunatic!“
„Excuse me?!?“
I love how missy is completely lunatic, but still gets offended by being called one :D
The truth hurts.
I mean, the Master responded to being called insane with two thumbs up.
I think Missy's just annoyed at who's calling her a lunatic.
if you were really paying attention, Danny was speaking very specifically to the Doctor and to Missy. the order of a general comment was aimed at the Doctor. When they argued before Danny called the Doctor general sir. I liked Danny. He saw right through the Doctor and I think that the Doctor respected Danny for that.
Yes, the Master is a lunatic, but the Doctor is not the General, by his own design. It was Missy who was trying to recruit him as her/his General, by giving him the command bracelet.
Yup , PE got that part terribly wrong . Even The War Doctor was not a General per sa .
Louis Watson LovisWatson
@@laurenceroberts5239 He was both right and wrong. The Doctor isn't an actual general - but he _does_ think like an officer and has sacrificed people if it's for what he believes is the greater good. That's what triggered Danny to think of the Doctor as an officer.
And where Danny got it so wrong is The Doctor has the experience of doing it with willing people and friends. He didn't send them off as fodder. They fought with him willing and gave their lives to do so. There by showing Danny's lack of experience and understanding of what war is really like .
Even as a Cyberman,Danny Pink still had some soldiering in him to save the Earth by leading the Cyberman to join him in doing a noble thing.
azure rainbow as was said in the Christmas special. Danny's died saving Clara, everyone else just got lucky
@@themadhammer3305 Note the fact that it wasn't actually Danny saying that.
I don't know why I watch this. It is a physical impossibility. I simply cannot hear him say "The Promise of a soldier....You will sleep safe tonight" and not start tearing up. That simple two lines. just those two alone embody every single person who swears an oath to protect their country and I cannot hear it and not be hit with emotion.
Combat or not, Active or Vet, That promise doesn't ever go away.
Christopher Hitchens was at a Q&A and a question was asked that was saying that the soldiers and America and Britain were really just imperialists invaders and that sort of thing and Hitchens chastise the man by saying that you shouldn’t sneer at people that guard you while you sleep. ever since that, that line is always stuck with me as being the definition of what a soldier is
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Innocent people sleep safely in their beds tonight because rough men and women stand ready to visit violence upon those who would do them harm.
@@DarthAveragewe sleep safely because we know we're gonna die regardless of your selflessness or selfishness.
We WANT to die. Existence is hell and humanity is the devil.
@@sumthingwikked4257are you Matthew mcconaughey’s character in True Detective?
Are you Rust Cohle?
If you are I love your show and if you’re not, you should watch it and meet your fictional avatar.
I love how Missy is just "Oh, all my hard work, wasted," like she just lost something she didn't like much anyway. She just does not seem to care at all.
She didn't wanted the army, she just wanted to prove her point, and the doctor poved it wrong. The army was just a mean to an end she didn't acrchived, so she didn't care about it.
If anything she seemed pleased with Danny
got to add the sassy tone to the "oh, all my hard work, wasted" then follow it up by saying "well time to leave, i got another thingy to do somewhere else, la de da" XD
She has gotten used to her plans backfiring at this point.
Dr. Who editors be like 'so how do we show how the cloud covers the earth?' One smart ass Pom is like 'lets just chuck in the Sydney Opera House'
😂😂
I mean they'd already done the whole "danger clouds threatening the planet" thing before and that time, they showed multiple shots of the Earth from space and from city skylines. They COULD have edited those scenes but I think many of us would have noticed. "Danger clouds threatening the human race getting burned up" has now been in 2 episodes
This always reminds of when the 10th ignited the atmosphere to clear the atmos
I thought that too
Where was the machine he used anyway ? I mean even if the Doctor doesn't want to command them because he's an idiot, led by Danny it was still an army of good guys to defend earth more efficiently than Unit or Torchwood so using the machine that burnt Atmos and save those particular cybermen would have made sense
@@prof-eon That machine was destroyed aboard the Sontaran ship, as well as the creator of the device.
The Doctor doesn't want to command an army at all, because it's simply wrong to do that. The Doctor does what he does because he's kind, not because it's the most efficient way.
@@prof-eon if you watched the episode, the doctor reversed it to Sontaran atmosphere and took it to their ship, and the kid detonated it!
Oh yeah my bad, must've been tired when I wrote that
I myself am a soldier and i have to admit this scene gave me chills
Ve Ki So first things first, thank you for your service. Second off, wow, felt that powerful?
@@castleoffiction96 thank you my friend ;) im croatian soldier ... but still military is military
Thanks for your service. Your everything thats right in the world.
If humans were logical and peaceful, we wouldn't need soldiers
@@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 but it is logical to have defenses yes? Therefore we have brave warriors/soldiers who answer the call. They protect and eliminate threats to the people. Though, thier very existence is the reason they wield the sword.
This moment reminded me of character line from another vide. “In death we protect.” “Our service eternal, our sacrifice infinite, our regrets absent” Astoshan
Ah, you are a fellow person of culture I see.
I understood that reference.
I absolutely loved the entire story of Astoshan!
I didn't get the reference can anyone please tell what the reference is?
It kinda sounds like something related to warhammer to me
@@farhanishraqifti1489 A dnd story of a player you can look it up Astoshan D&D
Perfectly sums up what the role of a soldier in a free country should be. Their promise to the people: You'll sleep safe tonight.
As a soldier, when he said "the promise of a soldier... You'll sleep safe tonight" got me
what gets me is her goodbye when she says i love you and I'll never say that to anyone else again that gets me everytime
Thank you for your service.
Soldiers make the world peaceful.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
The promise of the Good Soldier to his people, "You will sleep safe tonight!" Thanks for posting!
"You will sleep safe tonight" Gave me goosebumps
This is the promise of every man and woman in the military of every nation,the promise that everyone else will sleep safe. A promise they will lay down their lives for even after their watch is over.
That comment makes no sense whatsoever.
The job of a solider is to kill other soldiers.
That means no matter how you look at it, one side or the other definitly will not "sleep safe" at night.
The job of a soldier is to defend his people. Yes to do that violent men must do violent things. so that their side sleeps in safety. this is the nature of being a soldier. In this case , they are sacrificing themselves to save those they love from this rain. perfectly appropriate.
+looneyburgmusic you know how the yanks love to romanticize war, mate xD
Well, we yanks came from somewhere.
Shows that no matter who you are, your history isn't something you can escape.
there are bodys in those suits if you blow them up it going to be raining hands and feet for the next couple of hours
nah, the explosion that causes a flame around the world will doubtfully leave any bodyparts left
1 Of The Undying
Oh yeah, an explosion of that size and heat would evaporate flesh and metal, and most likely change the climate of the earth for a while.
Will Hardy WillHardy
🎶its raining men!
Only ash would fall. Lots of ash.
Legends has it that Cybermen were ironman ancestors
Praven Gunaratnam pravenGvnartnam
Iron Man was created first though
Praven Gunaratnam
Yes
More like C3-P0 bully
Rocket boots and similar stuff always amused me, because where's the fuel stored? The amount of fuel they would have needed to expend in order to get high enough to meet those clouds wouldn't have fitted inside their armor unless they were almost completely empty. And I think I'm probably being optimistic in that estimate. lol
(Yes, it's still a fun scene. Willing suspension of disbelief and all that)
Danny: I will burn them.
Missy: How?
Danny: I will burn.
Missy: One burning cyberman is hardly gonna save the earth.
Danny: Correct. *insert speech here*
I think I got the speech part. So he said one burning cyberman couldn't save the earth. Yet although he no longer had the emotions, he promised Clara that he loved her. "Love is a promise." So to speak. They say that Love burns with a passion. So pretty much what he'd done by giving that speech was reminded all those cybermen that "Love is a Promise." and that if they love each other (because a lot were most likely in some sort of relationship and some might have even had family) then they should burn to save the earth.
Great analysis.
It's a great double meaning. Not only is it a rebuke of her metaphorically, but also literal. One burning Cyberman don't do the job. But billions will do just fine.
I am... A dog soldier contrary for the northern Cheyenne tribe, and army for the United States, for some reason, this resonated with me. Almost made me cry.
What courage Danny Pink had after the Doctor gave him a device to enable him to control the Cybermen and order them to join him in saving Earth from Missy's sinister scheme.
you are who you want to be. Cyberman: Superman
Danny went out like the biggest boss.
This is part of why moffet was my favorite new who director
Whether it was him writing these speeches
Or someone else
Whoever was writing them did one hell of a job
Like honestly
They need to make a job of writing speeches like this
I miss when Doctor Who was on Netflix
Max’sWorld ...it is
@2020Surya S315 yes it is
@2020Surya S315
Everybody who's starting their own streaming service is pulling their content from Netflix. BBC with Doctor Who and probably Sherlock and Luthor next. Disney with their movies, TV shows and MCU series bit by bit.
@@India.H in Britain it is but in America it is not
Season 5 onwards is still on Netflix for me. Australian account.
As someone who was hit by a car and given 1% chance of survival, it feels petty but watching scenes like this remind me that I'm not a bad person
And he...will never hurt her.
Peter could deliver these lines so damn good....miss him
So true.
The promise of a soldier
You will sleep safe tonight.
Lest we forget.
"Excuse me!" 😂
Seeing the reactions created I'd say it was pretty good writing with solid entertaining acting.
Glad Danny was given the hero send-off he truly deserved.
The promise of a soldier, "you will sleep safe tonight." Never doubt those words.
The Army of the dead will save the land of the living
Nothing against the Mr Pink character, but i couldn't help but wished it was the Brigadier giving that speech ... even if through a Cyberman voice
I have to agree. If Nick Courtney were still alive he could have recorded that and played it through a Cyber-mask. But yeah, this scene would have had a lot more emotional impact if it was the Brig who led the Cybermen to save the world, especially considering his history with them.
I'm kind of with you on this one. Or at least together or somethin' xD
MrProsp88 yeah well briggy died of old age
i dont think so, the point of Danny is to show the audience that the doctor is a general who leads his troops, albeit Moffat did this poorly, many of the remarks Danny makes throughout the season are supposed to build up to this moment (albeit done very poorly). However Moffat is really good at writing small moments of dialogue between characters especially the earlier scene where the Danny says "didnt one of those beautiful speeches disappear in the face of a tactical advantage"
I love this scene because that Danny proved a point in this episode. the cybermen born from Missy's plan weren't just mindless drones following commands. no they all were people who followed him in saving the planet they once lived on.
Thank you for uploading. :3
“This is not the order of a general….nor the whim of a lunatic!”
“Excuse me!”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Setting the frickin atmosphere on fire always seems to be surprisingly harmless in Doctor Who.
They did it in a specific zone in the atmosphere that's why
"THEY FLY NOW!?"
"They fly now!"
--A Much Inferior Sequel Series
I have one question!
Do they fly?
The promise or a soldier, you will sleep safe tonight. That really hits deep when you think about it
Such power! Such Majesty!
Boy that first season for Peter’s had a lot of soldier themed episodes, the mummy soldier, the Dalek soldier… that’s about all I can remember specifically, but I do remember soldiers being a big part for that season.
I love how Missy is just snorting around and it's all like "okay just finish that i have more fucking things to do". Also, her sassy while Danny says he will burn is great. Michelle Gomez deserved better in this finale, glady she had a better spot in season 10.
It's easy to get bored when you know how something is going to turn out. The instant the Doctor threw the controller wristband to Danny, both the Doctor and Missy knew what he would probably do with it, and both of them knew there wasn't anything Missy could do to stop it. So, yeah, she was like, "just get on with it," because she knew she had already lost.
When doctor who was good to watch
Two Doctor Who lines brought a tear to my eyes.
1. You will sleep safe tonight.
2. Raggedy man, goodbye.
Can we take a minute to appreciate the music... fantastic
An incredible and old chapter, the bracelet is cool 🫶
2 questions:
1) You just atomized roughly 65 billion corpses. What's that going to do to the atmosphere?
2) What do you do now with all the empty graveyards? Bulldoze and start over?
This is the sort of complexity I miss from the current Dr. Who series, and to an extent, Capaldi's last season. In one season, Danny Pink became a full fledged character, and had a better arc than even Clara ended up with. He constantly fought the Doctor on everything, and only tolerated him because of his love for Clara. He started as an awkward, clumsy love interest and became a vital element to defining Capaldi's first season as his opposite. A true companion who never wanted to travel with him ironically.
Even Bill Potts never got this sort of arc, she barely had a life outside of the doctor which only made her feel more one dimensional. Nardole was a foil, but didn't really grow per se. He challenged him, but mainly as a surrogate for River most of the time. So sad he only stuck around for a season.
god this clip was perfectly cut
I love he's not supposed to have emotions here but that speech sounded like it had emotion
"You will sleep safe tonight"
“THE PROMISE OF A SOLDIER” Fuck yeah!!!
this episode was amazing but kate’s dad saving her takes the cake
In Danny and claras first scene he tried to explain to her what a soldier actually does, what a soldier actually is for.
This is what he was talking about.
The promise of a soldier is to guard you while you sleep.
The whole season Danny has to defend himself as a soldier as judgmental people who just thought soldiers were humans daleks.
P.E. showed them all in the end. Season 8 MVP
It was all building to this moment.
A soldier is no better than the battles he fights and who he fights them for. This was a noble battle to fight, and a worthy people to fight for.
This is the second time the sky was set on fire
Danny Pink was right about calling Missy a lunatic and was glad that she couldn't stop him and an army of Cybermen under his command using that special bracelet to make them obey his command to save Earth.
Good thing that Missy didn't try to find anyone related to Danny Pink after he and an army of Cybermen under his command with a bracelet he was wearing to order them around saved the Earth from the Doctor's enemy of his own race.
I've rewatched this scene several times over the years, and I only _just now_ noticed that the score is a slowed down and remixed version of 11's "madman in a box" theme. Huh.
Would have liked Danny to stay, liked his character
Me too but this exit scene was worth missing him in the future.
"Good morning. Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind, that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences any more. We will be united in our common interest. Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, 'We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on, we're going to survive.' Today we celebrate our independence day!"
President Thomas Whitmore
July 4th, 1996 (from Ronald Emmerich's 1996 film "Independence Day")
Bill Pullman already had a role in the who-verse.
And he wasn’t a good guy.
@@jimmy2k4o I didn't know that.
that was a fun movie!
Jamie Olberding torchwood miracle day.
He plays a paedophile child killer.
@@julieeverett7442 Thank you.
Best speech ever
Wish we could have seen these cyber men used more in this episode
Love is the strongest promise you can make. And self love (not selfish love) is the highest promise you can make to yourself.
Love is a promise.
And the promise of a soldier.
Nice little link. An army willing to fight and die for that which they love.
Love is not an emotion , Love is a promise and he will never hurt her
"This is not the order of a General. Nor the Whim of a Lunatic!"
"Excuse Me?!"
lol
I always hear Danny's speech at the end of endgame when Tchalla shows up. "We are the fallen"
Tbqh i hate how often Moffat uses the "love conquers all" resolution. I want to see a little more sci fi fixes to problems.
I have to agree. The 'love conquers all' thing is just becoming more and more frequent in New Who. Remember when we actually had do be smart and work out a way to defeat our enemies rather than just channeling emotions to kill them? Yeah, me too!
94830 086436 Here's an interesting thought if you where put in a device that REMOVES emotions do you think the power of love would do anything?
0saintclark0 that’s the problem, Moffat sees DW more like a fairy tale, fantasy series than a proper scifi one. Science is usually put aside in his run.
isn't the point that cybermen are void of emotion and that emotion is the only way to beat them
Pew pew
(Awesome moment.)
(Pause.)
"We-
So Danny did the Poison Sky move. nice
That’s why the CyberBrigadier was still around after this. He outranked Sergeant Pink.
"A hero cannot be defeated, simply by making him die." -Gloryhammer: Victorious Eagle Warfare
This guy straight up screen recorded and survived the BBC, while I heavy filtered it and still got caught
Word
Looking back, thatwas a well done scene. Just wish it would have been in a better season.
Not even one mention of Rory or Amy Pond. They are dead and ended up as Cybermen exploding in the clouds. The one time the Cybermen were actually the good guys.
the doctor doesnt need an army ..... no just kamikaze pilots
And an ideologically aligned subordinate to do the speech and give the orders so he can keep his hands technically clean and keep talking about love, probably.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 One thing I do appriciate about the RTD era is they called the doctor out on that a few times.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 It's mercy to kill a Cyberman. All of these people are / were dead and are now reanimated as empty husks. The Season 10 finale explains why the Doctor hates the Cybermen so much.
"Danny boy to the doctor danny boy to the doctor give em helly danny boy"
Male companions in Doctor Who: Rory the roman, Danny the Cyberman and Micky... The idiot.
Pizza ! P-P-Pizza !
modern era only. Going back Ian teacher and solider (supposidly) Ben Steven (1st)
Jamie highlander (2nd)
the brig, Sarg Benton, Capt Yates (and the rest of the UNIT team as guest artists) 3rd all soliders
Adric math geek and super anoying kid (4th)
Adric, Turlough school boy and alien, Kamelion android (5th)
this is NOT a new thing! I was not a fan of Danny, but this was a very worthy send off for him!
❤
Poor Missy, first she has to deal with the Doctor turning her idea around and now she has to deal with the whole "Soldier Speech"
Yes the poor Master. Thwarted once again, by the Doctor, from ruling the Universe.
@@Nomoreidsleft #TheMasterDidNothingWrong
Those cybermen are the people from the past that lived and died
it was here that everything went wrong for the capaldi doctor. After this, he loses one of his best recent companions.
I used to hate these Cybermen designs, but I now view them as my favorite design, the epitome of Cybermen evolution
Its weird that this isnt the first time the doctor lit the atmosphere on fire lol.
Rusty's Cyberman cousin.
Danny pink best cyber-controller ever
Danny's speech got me. Oh man... If I were Clara I would be balling. So sad!
New Iron Man movie looks good!
R u ready for Iron Man 4?
"ALLUHAKBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
Cyber-Spartans, what is your profession?
Some serious iron giant vides going on.
Missy, Still the Best Master Incarnation!
It did not take one to burn ... It took all of them to save the world for they are not cyberman ... Their humans ... And a soldier .. Kept his promise
This is my favorite Iron man movie
Danny*
It's called (the clouds will burn)
Danny Pink: "This is Earth's darkest hour!"
Me: *Glances sideways at "the End of Time."*
The doctor: If i had a nickel every time I'd set the sky on fire I would have 2 nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
(it may have happened more times. but 2 immediately come to mind)
I do love how *british* Danny’s military speech is. “Miserable lot” “this is not a good day”, the British military has been quoted as being a negative bunch of fuckers who work well and honestly, yeah, that fits the culture perfectly.
There’s no glory to be had, no destiny to fight no grand scheme or anything of the sort. It is a JOB to be done, and it is a bad job, and he’s not gonna sugar coat, but needs must and they are tool that can be used.
I know for Americans, and maybe other cultures too, this can be jarring because of the military celebration culture there, but our guys are just not so reverent of it all, most brits would call their service “a job” a good a bad a tough or fun whatever but a job. My mams old friend. Has quite a few many medals, some rather prestigious, where are they? Fuck knows, maybe the attic we aren’t *sure* but you know what he does treasure? A letter upon his resignation that detailed he was being rewarded for 35 years undetected crimes within military bounds, because he very much committed crimes, like breaking curfew, sneaking food etc etc and they never caught him. THAT is what he cherishes, being a cheeky lad getting away with shit.
Danny here represents it well, boots on lads, breaks over time to do the slog. Permission to call your superior a bellend