People complain when victims don't mention names, when they do, they get attacked as labeled as "attention seeker" like I've seen around. Make it make sense.
@@domvega2931 allegedly messaging. Threats to rape and all that. He had also a personal insta, but I don't know much about it. It's on an Instagram called houseofeffie. She also mention manipulation, emotional abuse and all that. I've seen a lot, but I don't have the sources bookmarked. Google is free.
@Cian MacGana I don't know. He confirmed the finnsta is his, the Instagram I mentioned provides exclusive pictures and some he sent we can see his tattoo, there's no indication of doctored messages. Besides that, the fact that he is bragging about his drug intake before seen his kids is worth the canceling to me. I liked him, I thought he was genuine, but hats not case. He's a crazy rich man, that thinks he's above the law. I digress, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not here to convince you, like I said, Google is free. Believe what you want.
Don't call her an attention seeker!!! Poor thing probably has PTSD. She's out there warning people about him! She's a hero. If she kept quiet, she would NEVER heal and there would be hundreds if not thousands of victims. Leave her alone! People should NOT be here commenting negative about her. She's the victim, not him! Please
There's always the possibility that she is lying. We don't have evidence or know for sure,therefore we should not give titles as "victim" or "cannibal".
@@wassenbrudens9368 Goodness I wish people would stop saying she’s lying already ,and victim shaming to boot. This is why people are afraid to come forward sometimes One: She’s not the only one with allegations of him. Two:His ex-wife is even confirming some of this. Three: all his movies ,agents and publicists have now dropped him. This is beyond hearsay at this point. And lastly omg STOP defending monsters already. Because it makes you just as sick as pathetic as they are🤦♀️
@@n.b.2729 people are always quick to judge victims. Even when Alexander Wang accusations came out, people were quick to say that the victims might be lying even when over dozens of men accused him of sexual harrassment
@@ThaisMCruz Kyle's always been a bit irreverent and sometimes controversial.in Australia we tend not to be as prudish when it comes to discussing Sex and I think here that Kyle was using humour to make a point between eating a woman sexually as opposed to literally ..I think he's trying to put Paige at ease with the question rather than being straight out crude...the thing is she's a liberated young Woman who gets Kyle and Jackie O's line of Questioning and never seems uncomfortable at any point.
@No Name Just cause you've met and dated some insensitive pricks doesn't make " males " in a whole insensitive. That's a sexist and ignorant statement. Ask any of my female friends how i am whenever they come to me about their problems. I guarantee you that insensitive is the last thing that comes to mind
What a pity that Kyle keeps interrupting Paige to crack a really corny joke. So inappropriate and such a bad interviewing style. Shut up and let your guest tell her story please.
She said "Thanks for having me" at the beginning of the interview... No traumatised person would ever go on a radio show, let alone feel so comfortable talking about it. Waits for her book....
@@fistewart wow she said “thanks” so that means THEY werent rude? Do you hear yourself? She literally said that shes still in shock... people who have been abused and traumatized are often very polite to people even when they are treated rudely.
@@fistewart How can you say no traumatized person wouod go on a talk show/ radio or talk about their trauma? You don't realize how ridiculous u sound. Everyone proccesses trauma differently, and like they said she has disassociated and compartmentalized her experience that is why she is able to speak about it right now. Just because you have had bad experiences with women, which seems to be the reason why you hate them, doesn't mean all of them lie.
It’s obvious...they’re prob cannibals themselves. Whoever jokes about someone’s openness about their traumatic experiences are soulless. Esp if this guy has a bad repetitive reputation with exes. Call This is a interview?!
@@Jordi_TV There’s a lot you could say about him, but him being a bad actor really isn’t one of them. It’s so weird when there’s plenty to criticize someone about why someone has to pile something on or negate something else about them. He’s a great actor, and it sounds like he’s a very broken man.
@@lolawants2008 He's a pretty good actor,not a Great one but we may never know as it's likely the Studios will all likely back off him now and his career is likely to go into freefall.
Shes very brave to talk about it: Sexual/Psychological abuse is everyones and its also a cultural problem. There are a lot of women who also get killed because of this. People shouldnt be shamed for speaking up, they should be encouraged. It will only be solved partly when everyone speaks up and it is understood How Common it is. Not victims perpatrators will be shamed which will decrease these. Not end. But decrease.
I like how she explain details. If you’re gonna make public accusations like this be clear about how you ended up in this situation because it’s very confusing for outsiders. He is extremely good looking, rich, famous etc so I can see how if it was a guy not like that he would not get away with so much. He didn’t rape her but he picked a young woman to groom and he was coercive and controlling. He definitely needs therapy. The cannibalism is weird and creepy she probably was afraid he was going to murder her at some point.
Unless you are, maybe hardcore Gold Digger, than you even get a tiny, carved in Letter, and dangling down from the Ceiling, from a Guy who asked you 5 Times that he wants to eat your Rips.
"Attention seeker". Disgusting and ignorant. If you look up Kyle and Jackie O and see the type of scandals they have been involved in and how tragically one of them ended you'll know what sort of hosts they are. Absolute abysmal behaviour. I hope Paige Lorenze was okay afterwards.
Some people would rather hold the victims accountable rather than the abuser. Before being so quick to judge the victims make sure you research everything that’s out there all the dms, photos, voice notes etc. There’s something wrong with our society that people feel so comfortable criticising the victims. All it does is suppress an important and sensitive conversation.
We are all fed up with offended virgins who jump from bed to bed and when they don't get what they want, they go public to denounce what they have often provoked. These women are an offense to the metoo movement and to all women who really suffer.
i agree...but there should be some DNA as proof. hearsay isn't proof. some (victims) are gold diggers. we don't know because we weren't there. he could have been playing around in those instagrams. his family is worth a fortune so there is always somebody who wants it. i'm not saying he did it or not...but they need PROOF!
@@donnadayle3762 There is way more to evidence than dna and way more reliable evidence than dna. Those women didn’t make money off him, he was actually leeching off them. He is/was broke, speaking of his family, his aunty has a book about the abuse that runs deep in their family and has spoken out about it all. His victims haven’t gained anything other than trauma and unwanted attention from him. Most have stayed relatively anonymous and haven’t asked for a dime. Most of them just wanted to break the cycle once they were aware how many others he was doing it to
Two way street. He made those decisions to leave a trail of messages and so on... dumb. She didn't have to hang around; it's part of the blindness of lust and hope... at least she admits it.
@@1970brenz no it’s not a two way street. Anyone who understands the cycle being in an abusive relationship knows it can’t be reduced to “why didn’t she just leave” that is such an ignorant take and I’m sure you know that
His carrer is over, I don't see him bouncing back after this, no big roles for him anymore, no production company is going to want that image, I feel bad for both parts, he has two kids and she has to deal with a trauma, I experienced emotional abuse that sometimes lead to manipulated and insensitive sexual activities as a young woman and it didn't hit me until about ten years later that had happened, there is sadness and pain underneath those experiences, of course he likes his 20 something girlfriends. At that age our brain is very easy to impress and manipulate.
@@Jordi_TV well even when is not proven yet to be true, is a big deal, is a psychopath look that is hard to shake off, let's say he has a A game publicity team, the come up with a version of their own were he comes out just as a kinky guy , there will always be that other side of the story , like Roman Polanski, he was forever branded by the abusive and disgusting thing he did to a 13 year old, is just the evilness that sorrounds his accions, he does have money and is a handsome guy and all, but movie roles wise is very hard that he would be considered in the same way In the future, this will be in his resume forever.
@@markcortez5685 he will not be worried for money but I bet he would be pissed that his carrer got branded by this psychopath image, he has remained silent probably has a team working on a clean up strategy or something, so far things look screwed for him.
Victim or not, its suspicious she's making jokes and laughing about a situation that traumatized her. People who suffer from PTSD, dont make jokes or laughs while telling their story. This interview is different than the one she did for the documentary.
I'm glad someone els noticed that. I've already commented but in another interview she was acting totally diff. She was playing the script in the other video of her with the ponytail in white. But this here she is no victim. She acts like him in the bedroom because she wouldnt of been down to do the stuff he asks of. & letting him brand her??? Come on now ppl....she is no victim.
Honestly, I think it gave her more credibility! From everything I do know about his case I would say, he behaved like an asshole in the relationship with those women, but he didn't do anything against the law! As she herself admitted, she never said no and let it happen! Just because she didn't like the experience doesn't mean he forced her. But I believer her, that she felt uncomfortable! But it takes two to tango and women need to learn to stand up for themselves and stop doing things to please a man!
we all wanna be down and wanted and make a man believe we are down for anything and then we’ll come out and say we didn’t consent. How is the man to know then? And also, awful if it’s all true and with another girl saying he raped her...why is the fact they all “went out” with him for years whilst he had a wife not even discussed? Or is it completely normal now?
I believe her but admit (and please don't come for me)I truly feel very confused. She says she consented to this kinky stuff? Then says he imposed this on her because she liked him so much? So he was an abuser or a kinky sadomasochist? Or did he start just being kinky then become too weird? The latter is what she is saying, I guess.
I've read elsewhere that past partners have said he was "grooming" them and introducing kink/fetish into the relationship, getting progressively more and more dark and disturbing (including alleged sexual and physical assault) as time went on. Like for example: By the sounds of it, when they started with the knife play she never consented to having him carve his initial into her skin, but he did it anyway...
@@jboudie She did not say she did not consent to it... just that it was painful. She also said herself with this kinky stuff it's very difficult and lines become blurred. I feel really bad for her as she was so young... at the same time from the 'dominant's' POV, was this going against her will? I think it is a very difficult situation and it is interesting she says something very similar. Having said that, gross to want to brand someone like that. For me (just personally) that is where I would have said a big and resounding NO. But she was young, wanted to impress... feel so bad for her.
I recommend watching Evie Lupine's video about this topic to get a clearer understanding of someone in the BDSM community's perspective on the blurred lines of consent between Armie and his partners. Very sad for his victims.
Even if she’s not lying, there’s nothing here that’s criminal because he still walking the streets no charges brought whatsoever. She was willing participant until she got dumped and then she was VENGEFUL 😊
you obviously have never known ptsd or cptsd survivors. if you did, youd realize each personality has their own style of coping mechanism. inmho shes doing much better and stronger than most. she can talk about it publucally for purpose of warning others, where she did not get triggered. thats a major milestone.
So what exactly must be wrong with someone if they choose to stay with a person who make such statements…. Paige doesn’t sound like someone who is suffering from PTSD
this same shit happened to me at her age. i ended up with retinal detachment and the guy didnt give a fuck. women need to stop giving men the power to do what they want....90 % of the time the men are not after anything serious, especially in the case of armie who just had just left a 10 year marriage. paige is doing the best she can with this shitty situation...keep preaching!
I don’t find correctly the expose his sexual preferences in a live talk show... I mean “Yeah, but look at what he did to her, he craved her name with a knife into her leg” Yeah! Horrendous of course, but that’s why she’s there: For that episode in concrete. So I would find okay if she talks about that, because is sharing her experience in a painful episode with AH, but that episode is the reason she’s acussing him. So if she goes there, she’s supposed to talk about that, not that if he liked fucking with socks or not. Also the interviewers... More there for the morbid than for actually listen (in a caring way) to the victim. But talking about his all sexual preferences (like being called daddy, or other tastes he had that didn’t had nothing wrong at all) I see it incorrectly.
This right here is the reason its sooo important that we make sure to instill confidence and self-worth in our young daughters because all these broken girls running around will accept this behavior for a crumb of acceptance and validation.
That’s so good that she is bringing awareness. It’s not easy to talk about something traumatic that happens to you. But she could save a life just from speaking out!
I'm super disappointed by all the women in the comments victim shaming/blaming/hating on a fellow woman speaking out about her experience. Grow up, and just hope that something like this never happens to you.
I 1000% agree. I knew someone similar. Not to the cannibalistic degree, but weird BDSM stuff that I was not into. It definitely took its toll on me, even as a friend I felt manipulated, somewhat “love bombed”, the allure of knowing a secret about someone that doesn’t open up to others, yada, yada. It’s embarrassing to admit that someone got the better of you as a grown woman. You feel prudish and you want to open and liberal (like she mentioned) etc. I find we’ve normalized to much. We attach a name to something and accept everything for fear of being cancelled etc. I feel for this girl. You really start to question yourself and push your boundaries for the sake of someone else. I lost a lot of respect for myself when I knew this person. It’s so hard to explain, but I can totally relate to her.
@@schingh1973 I hope you continue to heal and thrive, and are graced with more positive experiences in the future. Much respect to you and all women for opening up about their experiences!
As a women, we need to be taught about how to recognize abuse like this. I am lucky that I am head strong, always have been, and I would not tolerate any of this sick business. We need to stop thinking that we need to "please" men and listen to our intuition. And I'll say, I have no problem with being a kink-shamer...don't hate me.
I have mixed feelings. The world has not heard about girl before and now she is very excited and even amusingly tells on the radio details about BDSM practice with Armie Hammer. His behavior is disturbing but he couldn't have made her have sex. She had to agree to his conditions. It is hard to understand why she "struggled" with him for months?
It does not matter to love role-playing; it seems to me like a "dominant" and its not bad if the partner agree with BDSM. I don’t understand the fact that she’s talking about women... she should just talk about her experience and not "me too". As far as cannibalism is concerned, it must be proven and until proven otherwise, he has eaten no one. She does not seem traumatized to me, especially that at first she says she doesn’t know, kind innocent, then she is open to experiences. If he gave her a safety word and she didn’t use it, he’s not a psychic. All she had to do was accept nothing from the start and stop by saying the safe word, she’s not a kid. She generalizes by talking about all men, I do not like her speech
Bingo - she said she just got out of a really traumatic relationship. So... This is her pattern - Abusive men. She really needs help because women like this - choose guys like this repeatedly. She will never break the chain until she gets serious help.
You all interrupt her a lot and ask stupid /random questions after she shares something that's clearly traumatic to her... this is really bad. She is very well-spoken and sounded ready to share her story - a good interviewer knows when to stfu and you all don't.
He had possession over her , she laughing through her pain but that shit is real. The mom confirmed like they say a mother’s know everything . She still under a possession and it some type of medicine she’s one to make her jolly but you can hear the ignorance in her voice
You can laugh about traumatic experiences and still be scarred by them. It all depends on your personality (she even said she has a dark sense of humour), and everyone is different. Just because you suffered through something horrible, scary and confusing doesn't mean you're gonna be sombre, macabre and glum 24/7. Some people's autonomic response is to laugh instead of crying through pain or discomfort. Your comment makes no sense?? And is also pretty insensitive.
@@jboudie So true. Laughter is sort of a reaction to how crazy the situation is, it’s almost unbelievable. I know my reaction would be a mix of trauma and laughter
There is nothing wrong with bdsm but there is something wrong with not having fully informative consent. Even with non-consent there is proper talk and rules before hand. Proper Dominants don't need to manipulate..don't need force a person who is uncomfortable. It pisses me off that BDSM community will get a bad name for a clear psychopath and narcissistic. He needs help
I am right there with you, this one and Manson both I feel like those guys found a Sub to Dive into the BDSM but it allows for the real Psycho to come out and then the Trust between a Dom and a Sub isn’t there and it then becomes an assault.
Что вы как гиены на Арми накинулись.Человеку и так несладко приходится,он споткнулся и упал.Вместо того чтобы ему помочь,оказать психологическую поддержку,вы его наоборот добиваете вот таким промыванием его костей!Эта Пейдж дура несусветная!Уже сколько таких интервью она прошла и все никак не успокоится!Всё ходит и всенародно полощет грязное белье и поливает Арми грязью,хотя,я уверенна, сама первая прыгала к нему в постель! Похоже у этой девицы ущербный мозг и низкий интеллект! Если покопаться в её "грязном белье",можно много нелицеприятных фактов обнаружить!Пускай бы сначала в своей жизни разобралась,а уж потом в чужую жизнь лезла! А журналисты тоже под стать ей!Им кидают информацию,как тухлое мясо,а они,как шакалы,грызутся,кто возмет у этой девицы интервью. Вот только шакалы из за падали дерутся! Арми держись!Мы с тобой!Мы тебя поддерживаем,и в обиду не дадим!
OMG. The atrocious comments coming from someone of these women are just absurd. To call someone an attention seeker and start victim shaming is completely wrong. Hope some of you women really think about the horrendous shit that comes out your mouths. Also, just so you know, every single woman you have known in your life has either been a victim of attempted assault, actual assault and/or harassment. That's a literal fact. You should probably start questioning yourself as to why you give abusers the benefit of the doubt rather than the victim(s).
She just turned 23 so she's very young indeed. She'll probably regret coming on the show when she's much older. But I'm glad she did. In some ways I don't think she really understands the ramifications. She may still think it's just dangerously kinky...but I would argue that this type of fettish acted out over time would lead to murder during sex.
@@karam3llove1 She's lying! she said they connected each other for the first time in january 2019, she said he was doing play in NY at that time and she was living there. Girl, he wasn't in any play in January 2019, and she was in Canada with her ex boyfriend. I've been observing him for 3 years, and she lied about more things. I read when the first woman (Nastya) talked about him 2 years ago, don't pretend you know things you don't know, because I KNOW! I have been seeing this circus about his life since February 2018, and I'm sure you haven't!
At first she herself agreed now the victim,maybe she herself loves to be treated like that.He abandoned her in this way takes revenge on him.She only needs attention.
All sympathies with her. But how are these women jess, paige, courtney called Armie’s exes?? With couple if weeks of dating??it was obviously a rebound for him ..
Hello..i never heard about this Armie Hammer guy before his food “preferences“ made the news. Removing ribs..we all need to agree on that it's common knowledge that they are there for a reason. Glad Paige Lorenze is still whole and not found in Tupperware. I am serious. This guy has not a kink..he is all Silence of the lambs nuts.
Its fine you come out to speak the truth. But I dont quite understand this way.. talking on a show like that. And laughing several times makes it a little bit, I dont know, less seriou.. I didnt like it.
Everyone in the comments either saying poor her or she's a attention seeker. Like step back we don't know for certain. She could be lying or telling the truth. Just wait till it unfolds.
With all due respect, I think you must not have much knowledge of this particular situation to be saying this at this point (& what you are saying, is usually what I am saying in the comment sections FYI :-). There are so many direct messages including ones that are verifiably him, so much conversation, multiple sources. Are the girls leaving out great detail? I would say yes considering in my abusive situation I could write a book and just cover a 15 hour time span. Let me just say for the record that I knew him back in the day and I liked him very much, but I was the partner of a colleague of his who was responsible for whether or not he got a big part. He snowed all of us. But it is sadly past the point of “not knowing for certain” if you do some research. More will be coming out unfortunately.
But she actually sounds like a phoney.Idk.Could it be that her and the other girl know each other and are just trying to get back at him for using them for sex?
@@annettespizuoco8419 it’s far more than 2 women. I know how she sounds. All the main girls- go to IG to HouseofEffie & look thru the old stories, there’s 3 categories for Armie. Paige, this ‘Effie’, his wife, a girl named Jessica & another named Courtney (that apparently he was carrying on with to varying degrees + others). They claim to be in communication with his wife as well. Speaking to “phony” sounding, all those main women appear to come from a lot of money. What I hear more is an openness & lack of shame in her delivery of some of the matter of facts, & a kind of phoniness that is part of the girls in their 20s getting non surgical nose jobs, lip injections, blah blah. But I was actually impressed with her authenticity, & I think she appears more shallow than she actually may be. I find it interesting that a woman usually needs to be liked to be believed... like there could be a drug addict prostitute that steals, doesn’t mean when some psycho who loves hurting women targets her we should ignore it bc we don’t like the source. It also always seems so interesting, that women are so automatically thrown suspicion. Like- if I was gonna gamble my life away on a lie- why would I not make it something more? Why waffle on whether it was consensual or not? Why try to explain the nuance instead of just saying she said no & he assaulted her. It was months ago so really that wouldn’t be able to be refuted (though “Effie” does claim he raped her inside of their relationship, but she also remained in his life long after it- as someone who has suffered serious trauma at the hands of a partner, I can tell u that judging their “truthfulness” based on what u THINK u would do in that situation is not sound reasoning.) And after reading through what stories are left on the page I mentioned (apparently there was a lot more with videos, recorded phone call. But the girl is talking about suicide & also sharing & also telling people to fuck off- so she deleted her whole page except for a portion of the old stories & 1 photo. The claims if u look thru those stories, should not leave u with much doubt. Those 4 women + wife playing them off each other, I think some of them engaged in sex together. These women were up or tried to be up for kinky, but he’s I think lacking any real empathy, wears masks & has a darkness that’s not healthy. Plus spiraling with drugs & alcohol. There’s claims from underage girls as well, though not sure if they’re claiming in person allegations, though one said they & their parents went to report it or something. The claims are bold yet no one’s been slapped with a lawsuit. If wife wanted to she could say the girls were lying & she hasn’t spoken to them. That’s not what’s happening. “Effie” claims he had enablers & even has screenshots of msgs from Armie talking of “mutual blackmail”, aka my manager knows what’s up. For weeks they didn’t drop him, but they did yesterday abruptly it sounds like, & there’s word something bigger is going to come to light soon. We’ll see. But what’s already out there, while not in a court of law... those are his messages, his words & thoughts.
so disturbing all this Armie stuff and other actors who support him and are into young females like Henry cavill makes u wonder what they're hiding too.
@Jean-Pierre Mutin No human being should be expected to fully understand the psychological damage from agreeing to be physically assaulted. That stuff creeps up on you years later. When I served in the air force we at least got psych support because NOBODY could predict what would cause PTSD. These women don't even get that. The law should stop protecting sociopaths and the media needs to stop teaching girls that this is what sex is.
I hate to sound insensitive here but, once the conversation went to eating my ribs and doing things I wasn’t comfortable with I would say good riddance dude. I’m sure so many will vilify me for saying it’s pretty easy to leave this toxic situation.
@@officerk1693 In her case, every red flag, she seemed to notice. I think it has to do more with the fact that she might’ve felt awkward talking out against it. Happens a lot. Women let things slide because they don’t know how to necessarily speak out against it, or they’re scared too. Dickwad.
But the whole idea of him taking her to a doctor to remove her ribs and eat them afterwards is absolutely crazy and and absurd and it's absolutely normal as a first reaction to think that he was joking, it doesn't mean that she's not smart.
@@MiraculousAngelTarot I would agree with you. Except she still didn’t pick up the red flags even after she had the first impression with him saying things like that.
She is an attention seeker!!!!! They are were !!! His ex was behind all of this !!! Who stalked him ? Her or someone else ? She sounds amazing for a victim!
He did nothing wrong - he’s just role playing and is into BDSM and some other bizarre kinks that involves violence and domination and such. If it’s consensual it’s fine. Many women love getting dominated. I have been in BDSM dynamics as a Daddy Dom and many women like the various pleasures that can arise from being dominated and such.
But how much is too much. How far will you go to search the one to be okay with your "fantasies". How many girls will you sleep with to find your perfect fucked up "submissive" to please you.
@@ayushighosh20 the limit is causing serious, wounds/injuries that have the potential to paralyze or in other ways disturb a submissive’s life to the point of handicapping them and obviously anything more severe than that. And to be clear I don’t have kinks about scarifying subs or anything metaphorically connected with cannibalism. I don’t think like that actor does about BDSM - my kinks are in a very different wheelhouse of domination
I just had a deep contemplation about what kind of super rich and famous hunk I would have to date to make me call him "Sir" or "daddy"! I know just calling someone that in the bedroom doesn't seem that big of a deal but I came to the conclusion that there is NO MAN on this planet that I would call that! Seems like I have high levels of self-respect or a huge drive to protect myself! Or maybe I just happen to value my own idea of great bedroom play more than anybody elses idea!
Don't laugh. Anyone can be fooled. Don't be complacent. My experience with a person like this ruined my credit and resulted in bankruptcy for me. Manipulative people are NOT a joke and have real life impacts. They were lucky he didn't need their money.
People complain when victims don't mention names, when they do, they get attacked as labeled as "attention seeker" like I've seen around. Make it make sense.
@Cian MacGana She was abused by him (allegedly) Listen to what she's saying.
He has abused women physically and emotionally.
@Cian MacGana threats are not consensual.
@@domvega2931 allegedly messaging. Threats to rape and all that. He had also a personal insta, but I don't know much about it. It's on an Instagram called houseofeffie.
She also mention manipulation, emotional abuse and all that. I've seen a lot, but I don't have the sources bookmarked. Google is free.
@Cian MacGana I don't know. He confirmed the finnsta is his, the Instagram I mentioned provides exclusive pictures and some he sent we can see his tattoo, there's no indication of doctored messages.
Besides that, the fact that he is bragging about his drug intake before seen his kids is worth the canceling to me.
I liked him, I thought he was genuine, but hats not case. He's a crazy rich man, that thinks he's above the law.
I digress, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not here to convince you, like I said, Google is free. Believe what you want.
My question is... If it's fake, he could sue for defamation. Why doesn't he?
Don't call her an attention seeker!!! Poor thing probably has PTSD. She's out there warning people about him! She's a hero. If she kept quiet, she would NEVER heal and there would be hundreds if not thousands of victims. Leave her alone! People should NOT be here commenting negative about her. She's the victim, not him! Please
This is what happen when you don’t run from first red🚩🚩🚩🚩 sign 🛑
There's always the possibility that she is lying. We don't have evidence or know for sure,therefore we should not give titles as "victim" or "cannibal".
@@wassenbrudens9368 Goodness I wish people would stop saying she’s lying already ,and victim shaming to boot.
This is why people are afraid to come forward sometimes One: She’s not the only one with allegations of him. Two:His ex-wife is even confirming some of this. Three: all his movies ,agents and publicists have now dropped him. This is beyond hearsay at this point. And lastly omg STOP defending monsters already. Because it makes you just as sick as pathetic as they are🤦♀️
@@n.b.2729 people are always quick to judge victims. Even when Alexander Wang accusations came out, people were quick to say that the victims might be lying even when over dozens of men accused him of sexual harrassment
She didn’t warn anyone !! She raised her voice when the messages leaked she saved no one
I find the male host to be insensitive. It's laughs for him but this woman was on an abusive relationship
“Not eat you in the good way, eat you in the bad way”. Wtf, what is your problem dude?!
@@ThaisMCruz Kyle's always been a bit irreverent and sometimes controversial.in Australia we tend not to be as prudish when it comes to discussing Sex and I think here that Kyle was using humour to make a point between eating a woman sexually as opposed to literally ..I think he's trying to put Paige at ease with the question rather than being straight out crude...the thing is she's a liberated young Woman who gets Kyle and Jackie O's line of Questioning and never seems uncomfortable at any point.
@No Name Just cause you've met and dated some insensitive pricks doesn't make " males " in a whole insensitive. That's a sexist and ignorant statement. Ask any of my female friends how i am whenever they come to me about their problems. I guarantee you that insensitive is the last thing that comes to mind
yes he sounds so insensitive and saying such inappropriate things. i was chocked.
What a pity that Kyle keeps interrupting Paige to crack a really corny joke. So inappropriate and such a bad interviewing style. Shut up and let your guest tell her story please.
Yeah, Kyle's an idiot. As an Australian, I've been ashamed of him forever.
He's annoying A/F
Very rude way to question her... what is this this Australian howard stern? Shes been traumatized. What an awkward interview
Yeh, they were laughing loads and asking for sexual positions which was totes unnecessary
She said "Thanks for having me" at the beginning of the interview... No traumatised person would ever go on a radio show, let alone feel so comfortable talking about it. Waits for her book....
@@fistewart you seem to know a lot about traumatized people? Thanks for having me is how people respond to as a greeting 🤦🤦
@@fistewart wow she said “thanks” so that means THEY werent rude? Do you hear yourself? She literally said that shes still in shock... people who have been abused and traumatized are often very polite to people even when they are treated rudely.
@@fistewart How can you say no traumatized person wouod go on a talk show/ radio or talk about their trauma? You don't realize how ridiculous u sound. Everyone proccesses trauma differently, and like they said she has disassociated and compartmentalized her experience that is why she is able to speak about it right now.
Just because you have had bad experiences with women, which seems to be the reason why you hate them, doesn't mean all of them lie.
the 'side of the road' question was invasive and unnecessary. shouldn't take advantage of her openness
Yeah I thought the interviewer was a bit creepy
Yeah i cringed hard
It’s obvious...they’re prob cannibals themselves. Whoever jokes about someone’s openness about their traumatic experiences are soulless. Esp if this guy has a bad repetitive reputation with exes. Call This is a interview?!
The whole interview was sensationalist and insensitive tbh
Oh, I know. Gross and creepy + very insensitive.
He is a malignant narcissist. That’s the love bombing phase.
True narcissists are terrifying. My ex scared me.
Bingo, check out Knowing the Narcissist
You believe everything anyone saying?????
He sounds like a cross between “ silence of the lambs” and “ fifty shades of Grey.”
But Armie is a very bad actor... 😂🤣
@@Jordi_TV There’s a lot you could say about him, but him being a bad actor really isn’t one of them. It’s so weird when there’s plenty to criticize someone about why someone has to pile something on or negate something else about them. He’s a great actor, and it sounds like he’s a very broken man.
he's giving more silence of the lambs
@@lolawants2008 He's a pretty good actor,not a Great one but we may never know as it's likely the Studios will all likely back off him now and his career is likely to go into freefall.
Silence of the lamb 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s a shame that Paige and these podcasters are laughing and making light of all of this.
It diminishes her credibility in my opinion. SMH!!
To me, it doesn't diminish her credibility.
not everyone has your same sensibilities. we all are different.
How ridiculous that you think anything could. Syh again please
What’s w the male host having zero self awareness
Kyle is being quite insensitive here and asking quite jarring question. 😣
Her laughing about it is what makes it odd
A d she acts like he held her down & put a gun to her head to get branded.
Treated this conversation like a day at the pub. No words for the level of boganism.
I'd never even heard of the guy before he started wanting to eat people.
That’s a shame because he’s an amazing actor.
@@shannonsmith2642 yah but he wants to eat people
Shes very brave to talk about it: Sexual/Psychological abuse is everyones and its also a cultural problem. There are a lot of women who also get killed because of this. People shouldnt be shamed for speaking up, they should be encouraged. It will only be solved partly when everyone speaks up and it is understood How Common it is. Not victims perpatrators will be shamed which will decrease these. Not end. But decrease.
She's so outspoken and respectful and still so brave enough to come out. Such an open-minded and mature woman.
You should watch her channel. She is actually very "young". Mature but not at the same time.
These women go hunting and when they don't succeed, they arm themselves in victims
"Respectful?"😂😂😂😂
I like how she explain details. If you’re gonna make public accusations like this be clear about how you ended up in this situation because it’s very confusing for outsiders. He is extremely good looking, rich, famous etc so I can see how if it was a guy not like that he would not get away with so much. He didn’t rape her but he picked a young woman to groom and he was coercive and controlling. He definitely needs therapy. The cannibalism is weird and creepy she probably was afraid he was going to murder her at some point.
This is such a good topic! She is spot on with getting awareness out there and saying no if your not comfortable whatever the situation
I've had an issue with saying no in the past but im trying my best to say no when I really don't want to do something
Unless you are, maybe hardcore Gold Digger, than you even get a tiny, carved in Letter, and dangling down from the Ceiling, from a Guy who asked you 5 Times that he wants to eat your Rips.
Sadly, if he ever gets taken to court, her story will not be taken seriously because she agreed to speak to the press first.
"Attention seeker". Disgusting and ignorant. If you look up Kyle and Jackie O and see the type of scandals they have been involved in and how tragically one of them ended you'll know what sort of hosts they are. Absolute abysmal behaviour. I hope Paige Lorenze was okay afterwards.
Some people would rather hold the victims accountable rather than the abuser. Before being so quick to judge the victims make sure you research everything that’s out there all the dms, photos, voice notes etc. There’s something wrong with our society that people feel so comfortable criticising the victims. All it does is suppress an important and sensitive conversation.
We are all fed up with offended virgins who jump from bed to bed and when they don't get what they want, they go public to denounce what they have often provoked. These women are an offense to the metoo movement and to all women who really suffer.
i agree...but there should be some DNA as proof. hearsay isn't proof. some (victims) are gold diggers. we don't know because we weren't there. he could have been playing around in those instagrams. his family is worth a fortune so there is always somebody who wants it. i'm not saying he did it or not...but they need PROOF!
@@donnadayle3762 There is way more to evidence than dna and way more reliable evidence than dna. Those women didn’t make money off him, he was actually leeching off them. He is/was broke, speaking of his family, his aunty has a book about the abuse that runs deep in their family and has spoken out about it all. His victims haven’t gained anything other than trauma and unwanted attention from him. Most have stayed relatively anonymous and haven’t asked for a dime. Most of them just wanted to break the cycle once they were aware how many others he was doing it to
Two way street. He made those decisions to leave a trail of messages and so on... dumb. She didn't have to hang around; it's part of the blindness of lust and hope... at least she admits it.
@@1970brenz no it’s not a two way street. Anyone who understands the cycle being in an abusive relationship knows it can’t be reduced to “why didn’t she just leave” that is such an ignorant take and I’m sure you know that
His carrer is over, I don't see him bouncing back after this, no big roles for him anymore, no production company is going to want that image, I feel bad for both parts, he has two kids and she has to deal with a trauma, I experienced emotional abuse that sometimes lead to manipulated and insensitive sexual activities as a young woman and it didn't hit me until about ten years later that had happened, there is sadness and pain underneath those experiences, of course he likes his 20 something girlfriends. At that age our brain is very easy to impress and manipulate.
He's the heir to the occidental petroleum company he's worth billions every item in your home probably has something from occidental petroleum in it .
@@Jordi_TV well even when is not proven yet to be true, is a big deal, is a psychopath look that is hard to shake off, let's say he has a A game publicity team, the come up with a version of their own were he comes out just as a kinky guy , there will always be that other side of the story , like Roman Polanski, he was forever branded by the abusive and disgusting thing he did to a 13 year old, is just the evilness that sorrounds his accions, he does have money and is a handsome guy and all, but movie roles wise is very hard that he would be considered in the same way In the future, this will be in his resume forever.
@@markcortez5685 he will not be worried for money but I bet he would be pissed that his carrer got branded by this psychopath image, he has remained silent probably has a team working on a clean up strategy or something, so far things look screwed for him.
@@brendacastillo8146 I'm not taken his side matter fact I despise his kind ive had some experience with the rich and not once was it a good experience
Unless he stars in a horror movie
Victim or not, its suspicious she's making jokes and laughing about a situation that traumatized her. People who suffer from PTSD, dont make jokes or laughs while telling their story. This interview is different than the one she did for the documentary.
I'm glad someone els noticed that. I've already commented but in another interview she was acting totally diff. She was playing the script in the other video of her with the ponytail in white. But this here she is no victim. She acts like him in the bedroom because she wouldnt of been down to do the stuff he asks of. & letting him brand her??? Come on now ppl....she is no victim.
Honestly, I think it gave her more credibility! From everything I do know about his case I would say, he behaved like an asshole in the relationship with those women, but he didn't do anything against the law! As she herself admitted, she never said no and let it happen! Just because she didn't like the experience doesn't mean he forced her. But I believer her, that she felt uncomfortable! But it takes two to tango and women need to learn to stand up for themselves and stop doing things to please a man!
The male interviewer was rude
A real jerk
we all wanna be down and wanted and make a man believe we are down for anything and then we’ll come out and say we didn’t consent. How is the man to know then? And also, awful if it’s all true and with another girl saying he raped her...why is the fact they all “went out” with him for years whilst he had a wife not even discussed? Or is it completely normal now?
I believe her but admit (and please don't come for me)I truly feel very confused. She says she consented to this kinky stuff? Then says he imposed this on her because she liked him so much? So he was an abuser or a kinky sadomasochist? Or did he start just being kinky then become too weird? The latter is what she is saying, I guess.
I've read elsewhere that past partners have said he was "grooming" them and introducing kink/fetish into the relationship, getting progressively more and more dark and disturbing (including alleged sexual and physical assault) as time went on. Like for example: By the sounds of it, when they started with the knife play she never consented to having him carve his initial into her skin, but he did it anyway...
@@jboudie She did not say she did not consent to it... just that it was painful. She also said herself with this kinky stuff it's very difficult and lines become blurred. I feel really bad for her as she was so young... at the same time from the 'dominant's' POV, was this going against her will? I think it is a very difficult situation and it is interesting she says something very similar. Having said that, gross to want to brand someone like that. For me (just personally) that is where I would have said a big and resounding NO. But she was young, wanted to impress... feel so bad for her.
I recommend watching Evie Lupine's video about this topic to get a clearer understanding of someone in the BDSM community's perspective on the blurred lines of consent between Armie and his partners. Very sad for his victims.
@@jboudie I will check it out, ty. :))
Even if she’s not lying, there’s nothing here that’s criminal because he still walking the streets no charges brought whatsoever. She was willing participant until she got dumped and then she was VENGEFUL 😊
How is Paige “traumatized”? I heard her laughing throughout the entire interview. So, no I don’t believe anything she is saying. CLOUT CHASER, period!
you obviously have never known ptsd or cptsd survivors. if you did, youd realize each personality has their own style of coping mechanism. inmho shes doing much better and stronger than most. she can talk about it publucally for purpose of warning others, where she did not get triggered. thats a major milestone.
So what exactly must be wrong with someone if they choose to stay with a person who make such statements…. Paige doesn’t sound like someone who is suffering from PTSD
this same shit happened to me at her age. i ended up with retinal detachment and the guy didnt give a fuck. women need to stop giving men the power to do what they want....90 % of the time the men are not after anything serious, especially in the case of armie who just had just left a 10 year marriage. paige is doing the best she can with this shitty situation...keep preaching!
Amen. You said it all.
You don’t just get retinal detachment !!! Something else was going on????
These don't feel like safe people to have this conversation with.
This young woman was brave to come forward and talk so honestly about this.
Exactly
I'll never see ribs same way ever again
This is like fifty shades of grey without love
50 SHADES OF BBQ
Ex gf? Sounds like a hookup partner and shes a little jilted when it ended....
I don’t find correctly the expose his sexual preferences in a live talk show... I mean “Yeah, but look at what he did to her, he craved her name with a knife into her leg” Yeah! Horrendous of course, but that’s why she’s there: For that episode in concrete. So I would find okay if she talks about that, because is sharing her experience in a painful episode with AH, but that episode is the reason she’s acussing him. So if she goes there, she’s supposed to talk about that, not that if he liked fucking with socks or not. Also the interviewers... More there for the morbid than for actually listen (in a caring way) to the victim. But talking about his all sexual preferences (like being called daddy, or other tastes he had that didn’t had nothing wrong at all) I see it incorrectly.
wow. so sorry she had to go through this. so messed up.
This right here is the reason its sooo important that we make sure to instill confidence and self-worth in our young daughters because all these broken girls running around will accept this behavior for a crumb of acceptance and validation.
"But it just like happened" nope you were desperate to date an actor. He only hooked shallow plastics who'd do anything to be with a celeb.
That’s so good that she is bringing awareness. It’s not easy to talk about something traumatic that happens to you. But she could save a life just from speaking out!
I'm super disappointed by all the women in the comments victim shaming/blaming/hating on a fellow woman speaking out about her experience. Grow up, and just hope that something like this never happens to you.
I 1000% agree. I knew someone similar. Not to the cannibalistic degree, but weird BDSM stuff that I was not into. It definitely took its toll on me, even as a friend I felt manipulated, somewhat “love bombed”, the allure of knowing a secret about someone that doesn’t open up to others, yada, yada. It’s embarrassing to admit that someone got the better of you as a grown woman. You feel prudish and you want to open and liberal (like she mentioned) etc. I find we’ve normalized to much. We attach a name to something and accept everything for fear of being cancelled etc. I feel for this girl. You really start to question yourself and push your boundaries for the sake of someone else. I lost a lot of respect for myself when I knew this person. It’s so hard to explain, but I can totally relate to her.
@@schingh1973 I hope you continue to heal and thrive, and are graced with more positive experiences in the future. Much respect to you and all women for opening up about their experiences!
@@schingh1973 Me too... a pervert
Kyle almost sounds like he's getting his rocks off listening to this woman's trauma. Not cool.
As a women, we need to be taught about how to recognize abuse like this. I am lucky that I am head strong, always have been, and I would not tolerate any of this sick business. We need to stop thinking that we need to "please" men and listen to our intuition. And I'll say, I have no problem with being a kink-shamer...don't hate me.
This is so disgusting
he wasn’t doing a play in january of 2019 in new york so..?
That old guy was obviously getting off on this interview. Ew.
I have mixed feelings. The world has not heard about girl before and now she is very excited and even amusingly tells on the radio details about BDSM practice with Armie Hammer. His behavior is disturbing but he couldn't have made her have sex. She had to agree to his conditions. It is hard to understand why she "struggled" with him for months?
It does not matter to love role-playing; it seems to me like a "dominant" and its not bad if the partner agree with BDSM. I don’t understand the fact that she’s talking about women... she should just talk about her experience and not "me too". As far as cannibalism is concerned, it must be proven and until proven otherwise, he has eaten no one. She does not seem traumatized to me, especially that at first she says she doesn’t know, kind innocent, then she is open to experiences. If he gave her a safety word and she didn’t use it, he’s not a psychic. All she had to do was accept nothing from the start and stop by saying the safe word, she’s not a kid. She generalizes by talking about all men, I do not like her speech
This Armie dude gives me Ted Bundy vibes.
Bingo - she said she just got out of a really traumatic relationship. So... This is her pattern - Abusive men. She really needs help because women like this - choose guys like this repeatedly. She will never break the chain until she gets serious help.
Maybe abusive men choose her. She could be a magnet for abusive men.
You all interrupt her a lot and ask stupid /random questions after she shares something that's clearly traumatic to her... this is really bad. She is very well-spoken and sounded ready to share her story - a good interviewer knows when to stfu and you all don't.
Armie hammer is involved in a family that does that. He grew up with it it’s all he knows.
jeez, "I want to eat your ribs" get this guy a chinese menu
Except Chinese don't eat ribs.
He had possession over her , she laughing through her pain but that shit is real. The mom confirmed like they say a mother’s know everything . She still under a possession and it some type of medicine she’s one to make her jolly but you can hear the ignorance in her voice
Poor interviewers. Always interrupting the interviewees.
She sounds so traumatized, this poor victim omg. Notice how she didn’t laugh at all during the interview...
Yes she did. at 5.29 and 12.01.
@@fistewart it was sarcasm 😩lol
@@vanlmr It was irony to be exact! Either way you wanna call it it was funnny and true!
You can laugh about traumatic experiences and still be scarred by them. It all depends on your personality (she even said she has a dark sense of humour), and everyone is different. Just because you suffered through something horrible, scary and confusing doesn't mean you're gonna be sombre, macabre and glum 24/7. Some people's autonomic response is to laugh instead of crying through pain or discomfort. Your comment makes no sense?? And is also pretty insensitive.
@@jboudie So true. Laughter is sort of a reaction to how crazy the situation is, it’s almost unbelievable. I know my reaction would be a mix of trauma and laughter
There is nothing wrong with bdsm but there is something wrong with not having fully informative consent. Even with non-consent there is proper talk and rules before hand.
Proper Dominants don't need to manipulate..don't need force a person who is uncomfortable. It pisses me off that BDSM community will get a bad name for a clear psychopath and narcissistic. He needs help
I am right there with you, this one and Manson both I feel like those guys found a Sub to Dive into the BDSM but it allows for the real Psycho to come out and then the Trust between a Dom and a Sub isn’t there and it then becomes an assault.
Finally I get to this comment. TY.
I don't know who is more annoying between these 3.
Astonishing. Glad Paige Lorenze found her voice again. Strange #Bedroom #behavior for sure.
Что вы как гиены на Арми накинулись.Человеку и так несладко приходится,он споткнулся и упал.Вместо того чтобы ему помочь,оказать психологическую поддержку,вы его наоборот добиваете вот таким промыванием его костей!Эта Пейдж дура несусветная!Уже сколько таких интервью она прошла и все никак не успокоится!Всё ходит и всенародно полощет грязное белье и поливает Арми грязью,хотя,я уверенна, сама первая прыгала к нему в постель!
Похоже у этой девицы ущербный мозг и низкий интеллект!
Если покопаться в её "грязном белье",можно много нелицеприятных фактов обнаружить!Пускай бы сначала в своей жизни разобралась,а уж потом в чужую жизнь лезла!
А журналисты тоже под стать ей!Им кидают информацию,как тухлое мясо,а они,как шакалы,грызутся,кто возмет у этой девицы интервью.
Вот только шакалы из за падали дерутся!
Арми держись!Мы с тобой!Мы тебя поддерживаем,и в обиду не дадим!
OMG. The atrocious comments coming from someone of these women are just absurd. To call someone an attention seeker and start victim shaming is completely wrong. Hope some of you women really think about the horrendous shit that comes out your mouths. Also, just so you know, every single woman you have known in your life has either been a victim of attempted assault, actual assault and/or harassment. That's a literal fact. You should probably start questioning yourself as to why you give abusers the benefit of the doubt rather than the victim(s).
Handsome funny and married she is a homewrecker
I feel sorry for his kids
She talks like a 13 year old
She just turned 23 so she's very young indeed. She'll probably regret coming on the show when she's much older. But I'm glad she did. In some ways I don't think she really understands the ramifications. She may still think it's just dangerously kinky...but I would argue that this type of fettish acted out over time would lead to murder during sex.
She's so well-spoken and doesn't come off as an attention-seeker at all.
she didn't say NO because she wanted to be with the movie star,,,,, but she's finding her VOICE now,,,,
LAME EXCUSE lol
She’s the exact same thing as Stormy Daniels.
@@marcopolo-xj4yw rubbish you a bit THICK
Jesus! She's proud of that, she's making money with this horrible thing. Both are sick!
I don’t think she proud She is warning people about him so maybe that could save another person from him
@@karam3llove1 She's lying! she said they connected each other for the first time in january 2019, she said he was doing play in NY at that time and she was living there. Girl, he wasn't in any play in January 2019, and she was in Canada with her ex boyfriend. I've been observing him for 3 years, and she lied about more things. I read when the first woman (Nastya) talked about him 2 years ago, don't pretend you know things you don't know, because I KNOW! I have been seeing this circus about his life since February 2018, and I'm sure you haven't!
At first she herself agreed now the victim,maybe she herself loves to be treated like that.He abandoned her in this way takes revenge on him.She only needs attention.
The only normal guy shell ever find is a normal non celebrity guy. Tell miss paige im available 😆
Like an...and you know...and like an...im ..hhmm..him...hmm..😂😂😂😂
Doctors do that all the time. Janet Jackson had 2 ribs taken out for a smaller torso
All sympathies with her. But how are these women jess, paige, courtney called Armie’s exes?? With couple if weeks of dating??it was obviously a rebound for him ..
so? doesn't make it any less of a former "relationship"
@@jboudie former okk but Ex i dont agree
Lol ex literally means "former" .. Google the definition of ex
@@jboudie well its not the word as such its the feeling behind it
Um, he invited her to visit his parents so they were kinda dating. He was also a rebound for her, but still a relationship - serious or not.
A lot of these Hollywood stars have their ribs removed supposedly to make their waists smaller. This gives a whole new perspective on things.
Hello..i never heard about this Armie Hammer guy before his food “preferences“ made the news.
Removing ribs..we all need to agree on that it's common knowledge that they are there for a reason.
Glad Paige Lorenze is still whole and not found in Tupperware. I am serious. This guy has not a kink..he is all Silence of the lambs nuts.
Its fine you come out to speak the truth. But I dont quite understand this way.. talking on a show like that. And laughing several times makes it a little bit, I dont know, less seriou.. I didnt like it.
Everyone in the comments either saying poor her or she's a attention seeker. Like step back we don't know for certain. She could be lying or telling the truth. Just wait till it unfolds.
With all due respect, I think you must not have much knowledge of this particular situation to be saying this at this point (& what you are saying, is usually what I am saying in the comment sections FYI :-). There are so many direct messages including ones that are verifiably him, so much conversation, multiple sources. Are the girls leaving out great detail? I would say yes considering in my abusive situation I could write a book and just cover a 15 hour time span. Let me just say for the record that I knew him back in the day and I liked him very much, but I was the partner of a colleague of his who was responsible for whether or not he got a big part. He snowed all of us. But it is sadly past the point of “not knowing for certain” if you do some research. More will be coming out unfortunately.
It was her and one other girl.If they both said the same thing,then it Could be true.
But she actually sounds like a phoney.Idk.Could it be that her and the other girl know each other and are just trying to get back at him for using them for sex?
@@annettespizuoco8419 it’s far more than 2 women. I know how she sounds. All the main girls- go to IG to HouseofEffie & look thru the old stories, there’s 3 categories for Armie. Paige, this ‘Effie’, his wife, a girl named Jessica & another named Courtney (that apparently he was carrying on with to varying degrees + others). They claim to be in communication with his wife as well. Speaking to “phony” sounding, all those main women appear to come from a lot of money. What I hear more is an openness & lack of shame in her delivery of some of the matter of facts, & a kind of phoniness that is part of the girls in their 20s getting non surgical nose jobs, lip injections, blah blah. But I was actually impressed with her authenticity, & I think she appears more shallow than she actually may be.
I find it interesting that a woman usually needs to be liked to be believed... like there could be a drug addict prostitute that steals, doesn’t mean when some psycho who loves hurting women targets her we should ignore it bc we don’t like the source. It also always seems so interesting, that women are so automatically thrown suspicion. Like- if I was gonna gamble my life away on a lie- why would I not make it something more? Why waffle on whether it was consensual or not? Why try to explain the nuance instead of just saying she said no & he assaulted her. It was months ago so really that wouldn’t be able to be refuted (though “Effie” does claim he raped her inside of their relationship, but she also remained in his life long after it- as someone who has suffered serious trauma at the hands of a partner, I can tell u that judging their “truthfulness” based on what u THINK u would do in that situation is not sound reasoning.) And after reading through what stories are left on the page I mentioned (apparently there was a lot more with videos, recorded phone call. But the girl is talking about suicide & also sharing & also telling people to fuck off- so she deleted her whole page except for a portion of the old stories & 1 photo.
The claims if u look thru those stories, should not leave u with much doubt. Those 4 women + wife playing them off each other, I think some of them engaged in sex together. These women were up or tried to be up for kinky, but he’s I think lacking any real empathy, wears masks & has a darkness that’s not healthy. Plus spiraling with drugs & alcohol. There’s claims from underage girls as well, though not sure if they’re claiming in person allegations, though one said they & their parents went to report it or something. The claims are bold yet no one’s been slapped with a lawsuit. If wife wanted to she could say the girls were lying & she hasn’t spoken to them. That’s not what’s happening. “Effie” claims he had enablers & even has screenshots of msgs from Armie talking of “mutual blackmail”, aka my manager knows what’s up. For weeks they didn’t drop him, but they did yesterday abruptly it sounds like, & there’s word something bigger is going to come to light soon. We’ll see. But what’s already out there, while not in a court of law... those are his messages, his words & thoughts.
She is in an upbeat mood here tlkn about it yet in other interviews she's acting like a damsel
so disturbing all this Armie stuff and other actors who support him and are into young females like Henry cavill makes u wonder what they're hiding too.
She is a fame seeker, and a liar!!!
He made her feel so yummy, and well done.
It takes two to Tango. She is a big girl. She knew exactly what she was getting into and didn't say no, but YES. So let's stop all this garbage.
@Jean-Pierre Mutin No human being should be expected to fully understand the psychological damage from agreeing to be physically assaulted. That stuff creeps up on you years later. When I served in the air force we at least got psych support because NOBODY could predict what would cause PTSD. These women don't even get that. The law should stop protecting sociopaths and the media needs to stop teaching girls that this is what sex is.
I hate to sound insensitive here but, once the conversation went to eating my ribs and doing things I wasn’t comfortable with I would say good riddance dude. I’m sure so many will vilify me for saying it’s pretty easy to leave this toxic situation.
This chick...is not smart. There were all these red flags she could’ve avoided. And she says “oh I thought he was joking.”...
It's called manipulation, dick.
@@officerk1693 In her case, every red flag, she seemed to notice. I think it has to do more with the fact that she might’ve felt awkward talking out against it. Happens a lot. Women let things slide because they don’t know how to necessarily speak out against it, or they’re scared too. Dickwad.
@@francosalinas4459 and that makes them "not smart"?
But the whole idea of him taking her to a doctor to remove her ribs and eat them afterwards is absolutely crazy and and absurd and it's absolutely normal as a first reaction to think that he was joking, it doesn't mean that she's not smart.
@@MiraculousAngelTarot I would agree with you. Except she still didn’t pick up the red flags even after she had the first impression with him saying things like that.
Whatta charmer
That’s crazy Rihanna has a whole albulm about BDSM and S&M never knew what that meant interesting
I can't even listen to this rib shit🤮🤮🤮
WTH is “non-formative sex”? Does she mean non-NORMATIVE? Because I keep hearing her say “non-formative” in interviews.
She is an attention seeker!!!!! They are were !!! His ex was behind all of this !!! Who stalked him ? Her or someone else ? She sounds amazing for a victim!
He did nothing wrong - he’s just role playing and is into BDSM and some other bizarre kinks that involves violence and domination and such. If it’s consensual it’s fine. Many women love getting dominated. I have been in BDSM dynamics as a Daddy Dom and many women like the various pleasures that can arise from being dominated and such.
Yes!!
But how much is too much. How far will you go to search the one to be okay with your "fantasies". How many girls will you sleep with to find your perfect fucked up "submissive" to please you.
@@ayushighosh20 the limit is causing serious, wounds/injuries that have the potential to paralyze or in other ways disturb a submissive’s life to the point of handicapping them and obviously anything more severe than that. And to be clear I don’t have kinks about scarifying subs or anything metaphorically connected with cannibalism. I don’t think like that actor does about BDSM - my kinks are in a very different wheelhouse of domination
I just had a deep contemplation about what kind of super rich and famous hunk I would have to date to make me call him "Sir" or "daddy"! I know just calling someone that in the bedroom doesn't seem that big of a deal but I came to the conclusion that there is NO MAN on this planet that I would call that! Seems like I have high levels of self-respect or a huge drive to protect myself! Or maybe I just happen to value my own idea of great bedroom play more than anybody elses idea!
congrats
Wtf 🤬 🤮
Don't laugh. Anyone can be fooled. Don't be complacent. My experience with a person like this ruined my credit and resulted in bankruptcy for me. Manipulative people are NOT a joke and have real life impacts. They were lucky he didn't need their money.
He is a Virgo. Not shocked they are fucking sick.
Omg please tell me more
Very well spoken
this is a great aussie howard stern successor
LOL.
I didn't even know she got her own CZcams channel. Sorry she don't look like 22😅
You don't look like a queen.
@@Bee-zw9je I never say I look like a queen. It just a CZcams name😂
I feel awful for her in that her fifteen minutes of fame is quite literally over with this interview. Awwww, sweetie.
He’s Sick 🖤💯‼️
Who did he eat?
What do they keep bleeping?
"bad" words liberals might be offended by.....
Wasn't he married in 2019?
2013