'New Troy': The (Staggering) Siege Of Ostende 1601-1604 | Eighty Years War

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  • On the 5th of July 1601, a Spanish force of about 12’000 men and 50 siege guns arrived at the Dutch town of Ostend. This was the beginning of a war of attrition which was to last for more than three years. Because of its long duration and high rate of casualties this siege became known as New Troy. It was a siege characterized by curious Spectators that were shipped in and out of the city and by ingenious siege craft never seen before, and rarely after. It was also a siege that proved the importance of bookworms. This is how Contemporary historiography tells the story of the staggering siege of Ostend.
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    Bibliography
    Primary Sources:
    Haestens, H., La Nouvelle Troye, Leyden, 1615.
    Hexham, H., The Principles of the Art Militarie practised in the Warres of the United Netherlands,’ London, 1637; dedicated on 5 September 1637 to Henry Rich, 1st Earl of Holland. A second and enlarged edition was published in three parts: the first two at Delft in 1642, and the third at Rotterdam in 1643; Dutch editions appeared at the same time, dedicated to William of Orange and Charles I Louis, Elector Palatine.
    Literature:
    Duffy, C., The Fortress in the Early Modern World 1494-1660, London 1979.
    Lynn, J. A., States in Conflict 1661-1763, in: Parker, G. (Ed.), The Cambridge History of Warfare, Cambridge 2005.Ortenburg, G., Waffe und Waffengebrauch im Zeitalter der Landsknechte (Heerwesen der Neuzeit, Abt. 1, Bd. 1) Koblenz 1984.
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Komentáře • 717

  • @benjamindover2601
    @benjamindover2601 Před 4 lety +1364

    If during your siege the enemy has a booming tourist economy you're not doing it right.

    • @olliefoxx7165
      @olliefoxx7165 Před 3 lety +59

      They had to be cutting a cut of that tourism money. No way they would have let them through otherwise.

    • @feekalphabeet9217
      @feekalphabeet9217 Před 3 lety +76

      @@olliefoxx7165 The dutch controlled the sea, they couldn't do shit.

    • @pr0chszy
      @pr0chszy Před 3 lety +15

      ​@@olliefoxx7165 And besides, the spanish should've seen as unwise the prospect of opressing the Dutch citizenry too much, as it would only further the revolutionaries's agenda, not quite sure of this, but it's only common sense that if you're trying to quell a rebellion, the last thing you want is an increasingly angry people.

    • @MrDwarfpitcher
      @MrDwarfpitcher Před 3 lety +19

      @@pr0chszy thing is
      The Spanish looked at the numbers and noted that the majority of the rebellious folk were Catholic.
      The King did not think that they would be as rebellious as they were because the whole idea of restricting religious freedoms did not affect them.
      Would these catholics really go far all out war to stand up for their fellow country mens rights?
      The King did not count on it, but he should've

    • @jaro551
      @jaro551 Před 3 lety

      @Neil Knox aint nobody going to try shit

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. Před 4 lety +1905

    people today: "I think video games are too brutal. They shouldn't be a pastime for anyone."
    people in the 17th century: "I'll go on vacation in the besieged city to watch the war. It's fun for the whole family!"

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 Před 4 lety +161

      AdalRoderick tbf it was a common thing throughout much of history for more wealthy civilians to come and watch a battle for entertainment if it wasn’t too grueling. I know it happened in the Crimean war and a few during Roman times as well.
      I mean, to be frank, it was probably an amazing spectacle compared to the usual means of entertainment.

    • @tiely13
      @tiely13 Před 4 lety +14

      GROND!

    • @proof4469
      @proof4469 Před 4 lety +115

      The first few battles of the American Civil War were known to have a good amount of spectators having a picnic on the side because they expected a swift end to the war, and no one took the conflict seriously.

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 Před 4 lety +74

      They did the same thing in the 20th century. Up till the just after the outbreak of ww1. In fact the horrors of ww1 is what stopped battlefield tourism.
      One thing that is not often realized classical war tempo was usually pretty low key with fairly sporadic fighting. It wasn't until the 20th century that the tempo was increased rapidly

    • @garyhewitt489
      @garyhewitt489 Před 4 lety +76

      Battle tourism, public excecutions, hanging, drawn quartered, burn at the stake, guillotine, bear bating, cock fighting, duelling, flogging.
      The Enlightenment.

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC Před 4 lety +789

    Ostend Soldier: Sir, the Spanish left a giant wooden Tulip bulb outside the city.
    Ostend General: What are you waiting for, drag it in.
    Wooden Tulip Bulb: *Spanish mumbling*

    • @ignacio4159
      @ignacio4159 Před 4 lety +16

      😂👌

    • @patriciusvonkempen9810
      @patriciusvonkempen9810 Před 4 lety +11

      This one Got me xD

    • @chubbymoth5810
      @chubbymoth5810 Před 4 lety +46

      Actually a similar thing did happen with the town of Breda, with Dutch soldiers hiding in a ship with peat bricks for the Spanish garrison. Tulips are of a much later era and were more associated with Turkey at that time. Peat bricks was a source of cheap energy of huge importance to the region.

    • @eh7602
      @eh7602 Před 3 lety +4

      Laughs in Dutch

    • @HispaniaGothorum
      @HispaniaGothorum Před 3 lety +2

      Spanish Soldier: We just clean and tidy the city

  • @noemiekramer7699
    @noemiekramer7699 Před 4 lety +376

    Those engines of war show how crazy and innovative those engineers were... A siege was basically an immense construction project...

    • @Scott-zi7xv
      @Scott-zi7xv Před 4 lety +17

      Yeah imagine being tasked with manning that thing, hoping you didn't get blasted to pieces

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead Před 4 lety +23

      My contract promised that the engines would be built on time and on or under budget, to your exact specifications, not that they would actually breach the walls or that they would enable you to take the city by a specific date.

    • @sethreynolds8520
      @sethreynolds8520 Před 3 lety +10

      As a past soldier, you do two things through out the day. March, and dig.
      so much digging
      so much
      so.....much.....digging........

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 Před 2 lety

      @@sethreynolds8520 Does it also include hostile artillery fire on your position?

    • @mellon4251
      @mellon4251 Před 2 měsíci

      And with a lower mortality rate than contemporary construction projects in the Middle East

  • @gfleurbaey13
    @gfleurbaey13 Před 4 lety +519

    Dude I live around 30 km (around 18.6 miles) from Oostende and knew nothing about this siege, other then the fact that it happened... Awesome work man!

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Před 4 lety +104

      How they do not tell you about this is beyond my understanding. It's such an incredible piece of history.

    • @freekmulder3662
      @freekmulder3662 Před 4 lety +24

      I can't speak for Belgian schools but in the Netherlands we only learn the broad strokes of history.
      We focus on the main themes, important events and historical figures while the individual sieges, battles and general populace gets skimmed over.
      So some might know about this battle but many don't know exactly how it went down other than the end result

    • @sdssdds8415
      @sdssdds8415 Před 4 lety +46

      I live in Oostende and there are texts spread across the outskirts telling about the siege. There are still some hills and ridges built by the Spanish and polders flooded by the dutch. My grandma also found a Spanish copper coin from 1604 in her yard.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před 4 lety +13

      In Holland, we only read about sieges and battles that happened within the current borders of The Netherlands.
      Even then, such an important battle as 1600: Battle of Nieuwpoort only gets a brief mention because 'Maurits intended to root out the Dunkirk Pirates but on the way he was surprised to find a large Spanish force so that battle happened. And most people only remember it because it's the easiest year to remember: 1600 Battle of Nieuwpoort.

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Před 4 lety +13

      @@sdssdds8415 I have to come visit then! Btw, is it called Oostende now? We figured it would be Ostende in Flemish and Oostende in Dutch. Didn't know how to call it correctly.

  • @Arcaryon
    @Arcaryon Před 4 lety +484

    You have to give the Spinola credit where credit is due. In so many wars we read about incompetent commanders WITH sigificanf frontline experience. This guy "just read some books" and became THE expert on sieges and field warfare of his day and age. He was also a member of my favorite nobility club of the time, as a knight in the famous order of the golden fleece.
    His biggest military triumph of taking the city of Breda in 1625 was immortalized by the painter Diego Velàzquez in a picture you probably have seen before; "La rendición de Breda" (the surrender of Breda) also known as "Las lanzas". If you haven't, I highly recommend looking it up, it is definetly one of a kind.

    • @avinfor
      @avinfor Před 4 lety +60

      Couldn’t agree more. He obviously had great intelligence, charisma and I would say common sense compounded with being born in the right family. A very rare find. Today that is also a very good start but then it was basically the only start.

    • @codynasty7511
      @codynasty7511 Před 4 lety +57

      While the Siege of La Rochelle was going on, Spinola was on his way back to Spain, and after examining Cardinal Richelieu’s siege works, Spinola reportedly said to the Cardinal, “The city is already taken”.

    • @istoppedcaring6209
      @istoppedcaring6209 Před 4 lety +10

      also immortalized in "merck toch hoe sterck"

    • @onanthebarbarian4842
      @onanthebarbarian4842 Před 3 lety +24

      Ironic he should take Breda. In 1590 the city had been taken from the Spanish with a trick inspired by the Iliad: Soldiers hid in a shipment of peat and opened the gates. Making it a proper New Troy in its own right.

    • @vicentgalvan70
      @vicentgalvan70 Před 3 lety +12

      Sadly, the only book about Spinola that I could find was writen in archaic Spanish... I speak Portuguese, so it was not impossible. Even so...

  • @sahhaf1234
    @sahhaf1234 Před 4 lety +1083

    This was very intresting. Pre-modern non-british european history is very little covered on youtube.. Please make more of such videos..

    • @NathanielWinkelmann
      @NathanielWinkelmann Před 4 lety +47

      I feel like 1601is firmly moder. By most standards

    • @BeatMonkeyV5
      @BeatMonkeyV5 Před 4 lety +104

      If you can’t find non-British European history you’re clearly not looking in the right place. Check out Kings & Generals, they cover almost any historical point you could think of

    • @ksanbahlyngwa1998
      @ksanbahlyngwa1998 Před 4 lety +4

      @@BeatMonkeyV5 I watch them too

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 4 lety +37

      This is actually part of what is considered the modern era just fyi. The modern era is generally said to start with the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople and is marked by the rise of gunpowder focused warfare and the engineering developments of the Renaissance. Pre-modern would be the medieval and ancient era. Obviously the exact dates are a bit hard to pin down but generally we recognize these developments as being what led directly to our world.

    • @sahhaf1234
      @sahhaf1234 Před 4 lety +15

      @@hedgehog3180 You're right, I should have said early modern.. I think this covers the period from 1453 to 1789. I guess modernity starts with the french revolution..

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT Před 3 lety +48

    It's nice to see that Vere and Mauritz were professional enough not to let their rivalry sabotage their ability to work together.

  • @ImperialGuardsman74
    @ImperialGuardsman74 Před 4 lety +206

    Rather love the 80 years war for it's focus on sieges and engineering. It was a rather methodical and mathematical war for the most part, and the fact it went on for so long(with truces and intermissions), makes it all the more fascinating.

    • @ArtilleryAffictionado1648
      @ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Před 4 lety +22

      i just wonder what the flying fuck was so valuable in the Netherlands that the spanish gave their legs and arms to take it back. And its so funny. a HUGE TRILIONAIRY empire not being able to conquer a small nation, and said small nation then going on to become a major power. It's like the vietnam war but if vietnam was a 21 century superpower

    • @DerBuffBaer
      @DerBuffBaer Před 4 lety +44

      antonio Well, the Netherlands was and is today one of the most important trading hubs in the world, so there’s the importance for you. And it’s completely understandable that such a large empire has difficulties to fight such a small nation as the Spanish forces had to be spread out all over the world and supplying a force large enough to easily overwhelm the Dutch would have been logistically impossible. Also the Dutch military was one of the best fighting forces at that time. Another reason is the topography of the Netherlands as its very difficult terrain. So there you have it :)

    • @TheEvertw
      @TheEvertw Před 3 lety +9

      A lot of firsts were made in that war. The first (modern) republic was born, the first declaration of independence, the first real instance of religious freedom, etc.
      It was a very hard-won victory: the spaniards destroyed the land, and were extremely brutal. We were saved by our navy, which whipped the spaniards all over the globe--including intercepting the silver fleets that should have paid the war for the spanish. Also we finally had some breaks in land battles under the leadership of Maurits of Orange. That's where the Oranjes gained the right to rule the land.

    • @TheEvertw
      @TheEvertw Před 3 lety +7

      ​@@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 This war started as a religious war, to persecute the protestant christians in the Netherlands. But it was also due to the wounded pride of the monarch, who could not accept his subjects were making demands on how they wished to be ruled. While part of the Burgundian dukedom, the Dutch cities had much freedom. The spaniards got that dukedom through marriage, but were not used to give their subjects such freedom.
      In latter half, it became a fight of survival for the spaniards. The Dutch navy was whipping the spaniards around the globe, taking over their empire. The spaniards hoped to stop that by re-conquering the ports those ships sailed from. The importance of Oostende for the spanish was in denying its port to the Dutch.
      After the 80-years war, the spanish empire was effectively finished, and the Dutch had their golden age.
      Served them right, arrogant murderous catholic pricks.

    • @shadower3833
      @shadower3833 Před 3 lety +3

      @@DerBuffBaer and @antonio Moreover, the Dutch Republic was very, very wealthy, mainly thanks to the Hanze trade.

  • @thomasbeauprez00
    @thomasbeauprez00 Před 3 lety +75

    As a citizen of Ostend, I highly appreciate this video.

    • @VivaLegolastef90
      @VivaLegolastef90 Před 3 lety +13

      Are you okay???

    • @martijnb5887
      @martijnb5887 Před 3 lety

      The defence works look extremely impressive! How much of it is left? Judging by Wikipedia's the list of sights in Oostende and the map, all of those bulwarks are gone.

    • @thomasbeauprez00
      @thomasbeauprez00 Před 3 lety +2

      @@martijnb5887 There are no defenses left. They were torn down in the 19th century to make way for tourism. There is a fort, called Fort Napoleon, but as the name indicates, it's from a later age.

    • @mrmoth26
      @mrmoth26 Před 3 lety +2

      @@thomasbeauprez00 They tore down something that definately could've been a tourist attraction for tourism?

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mrmoth26 The construction hampered the growing potential of the city, I think.

  • @leeboi222
    @leeboi222 Před 4 lety +106

    The defenders are absolute lads for refusing to surrender until it got to that point. Sounds awful in there.

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 Před 3 lety +28

      There was no Geneva Convention back then, them being allowed to live upon surrender wasn't something you could count on.

    • @fitrianhidayat
      @fitrianhidayat Před 3 lety +5

      @@FuckGoogle2 they could (and did) evacuated the whole city..
      The defenders are routinely replenished, so it was very likely they weren't the same people that defended the city from start to finish.
      They probably couldn't get out of the besieged city unless they were dead or injured, and trying to do so will get them treated as deserter, which most probably means death penalty

    • @asdfomfglol
      @asdfomfglol Před 3 lety +8

      Over 3000 ships came in and out of the city during the siege. It´s understandable to think that they were not the same defenders and that they were constantly replenished and evacuated.

  • @ArtilleryAffictionado1648
    @ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Před 4 lety +78

    Man i remember stumbling on this while studying dutch history and i eneded up rreading the whole wikipedia article on this battle and it blew my fucking mind.
    Thank you for bringing this somewhat obscure siege to a larger audience, and double thank you for bringing the 17th century to a larger audience. Most people don't know this period because there is almost no type of media produced about it.
    You'd figure the transition from medieval warfare to gun warfare would be more popular. Nope, most people don't know the missing link between the two.
    Keep up the good work man!

    • @jeffreytoman5202
      @jeffreytoman5202 Před 3 lety

      Niflgaardian Embassador - not only that, but it's a hard topic to fully understand. There was great turmoil in society, military, finance, religion, and structures of nations. In addition to that, the amount of writing and sources and their conflicting ideas and accounts require an immense amount of energy, intelligence, and persistence to be able to understand and then effectively communicate in an entertaining fashion.

    • @ArtilleryAffictionado1648
      @ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Před 3 lety

      @@jeffreytoman5202 i've read peter h wilson's Thirty Years War - Europe's Tragedy. 1,000 pages. I won't lie it was hard as fuck. I agree in that the era is complicated, but the thing is, so are periods like the super recent ww2 for example. All historical periods are incredibly messy and they can all be portrayed in a simple manner, just like ww2 is portrayed as good vs evil. Hell back then the religious wars were "good vs evil" in the minds of the people. If something as much as exists, movies can be made about it. I see no excuse to make an epic set on ths era. it steams from a lack of awareness (and if you ask me a lack "wokeness" potential)

    • @ArtilleryAffictionado1648
      @ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Před 2 lety +2

      @Joshua Mills when you get to 400 years old tell me how good your memory is. Fun fact: you can play as spinola dynasty in crusader kings 2. They are a family in Genoa (the same family)

  • @santamaria7733
    @santamaria7733 Před 4 lety +22

    I"m a spanish dude from california. I once met a dutch guy from netherlands, who kept giving me looks like he didn't trust me. I never knew just how ferocious the dutch spanish wars were, it was brutal.

    • @Sikke_Kok
      @Sikke_Kok Před 4 lety +33

      Literally nobody from the Netherlands holds a grudge against the Spanish over what happened 400 years ago... We only have bad memories about something that happened in the summer of 2010 that we don't like to talk about... He probably just didnt like your face or something silly like that

    • @chubbymoth5810
      @chubbymoth5810 Před 4 lety +4

      I read some contemporary Spanish text about the Dutch. It roughly translates as starting off with; "Two pale blue eyes, stare out from a flax coloured gizzard with murderous intent,.." I'm pretty sure at that period the feeling was mutual as the Dutch had the habit of capturing any Spanish ships they could expect a small profit on. And that went on till well into the 18th century with Dutch traders happily looting towns in the South America's as well. In 1992 we found out that one state of the Netherlands had never made peace with Spain as piracy was so profitable for it. In order for the treaty of Maastricht to be valid, they finally had to concede to peace.
      But to the Dutch, the Spanish are a bit like the French are to the English and vice versa. Only recently the Germans took over that role and to Spain it is more our legacy as pirates than the rebellion against the Habsburg which was the birth of the Dutch nation. Initially a republic, it was actually Napoleon who made it into a monarchy. That insult to injury is still present to this day.

    • @sergioserobcam
      @sergioserobcam Před 3 lety +3

      @@Sikke_Kok I supose world cup final was maybe a bad memory for you, but great memory for us... It is what it is, we conquered you 400 years ago and we did it again!!! hahaha
      just a joke man, dont get salty

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 Před 3 lety +2

      It was extremely brutal. I recently read a eye witness report of the fighting in 1574 around Leiden and Rotterdam. I remember thinking. Jesus this makes ISIS looks like amateurs.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia Před 3 lety +1

      @@sergioserobcam When did you conquer us?

  • @mengo0456
    @mengo0456 Před 2 lety +12

    14:44 an armchair general that became a real field commander, thats impressive

  • @T33K3SS3LCH3N
    @T33K3SS3LCH3N Před 3 lety +87

    Dutch rebels: "This siege is killing us, it takes 1,000 soldiers a month to replace the injured and fallen."
    WW1 generals: "Ah that must be the quiet part of the front."

    • @Sam-xd9xt
      @Sam-xd9xt Před 3 lety +2

      Mercenaries don't come cheap :p

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 3 lety +1

      Of course one is a city and the other his hundreds of KM of front line.

    • @duncandl910
      @duncandl910 Před 3 lety +6

      I mean by ww1 the population was almost 10 times larger, so proportionally speaking..

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek Před 3 lety +3

      @@duncandl910
      You are right, people often forget to take proportions into mind.

    • @jeanduneverssanspeur8042
      @jeanduneverssanspeur8042 Před 2 lety

      WW1 generals: Ah that must be the “Feldpost" regiments

  • @jamesashley9127
    @jamesashley9127 Před 4 lety +2

    I love your stuff! You do a great job bringing us material that’s not seen much on CZcams channels. I consider myself decently versed in military history and I’ve definitely learned plenty I previously had little knowledge of while really enjoying your stuff. So thanks again. I’ll spread the word about your channel and I can’t wait for the next one. 🤙

  • @KapiteinKrentebol
    @KapiteinKrentebol Před 4 lety +137

    A wall made by corpses..... :shaking handbell: BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 3 lety +3

      Can I donate dead it they're not mine? I've got oodles around here and honestly I dont even know where half of them come from. Every few minutes a fresh one pops out of a crypt and I'm afraid to ask my necromancers how they keep fishing fresh corpses.

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, Im not fighting behind that defensive work, I surrender at that point.

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT Před 3 lety +16

    The Dutch strategy was pretty smart. Continuously send in reinforcements to the city in order to hold it, while attacking elsewhere to draw Spanish troops away from the siege or even force them to abandon it.
    The problems were that the Spanish garrisons they were attacking elsewhere could be really tough, the Dutch sometimes didn't send enough reinforcements to Ostende, and they made the mistake of removing the talented Vere from command. And of course they hadn't expected the Spanish to send military geniuses like Spinola and Targone to the siege.

  • @tobago3679
    @tobago3679 Před 4 lety +6

    Great video, I love this theatrical format. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @thorrin
    @thorrin Před 4 lety +12

    Cool to see a video about this on youtube, i'm from Oostende and rather proud that we were able to hold out that long against an empire as great as the Spanish.

  • @cocopuffs5561
    @cocopuffs5561 Před 3 lety +2

    these videos are really good, probably some of the best history content on youtube. I think a few more minutes of surrounding context for a battle like this both what was going on before and after might help a little.

  • @sussurus
    @sussurus Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for another well-researched documentary!

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for the vid, love your early modern stuff!

  • @5thMilitia
    @5thMilitia Před 4 lety +18

    This channel is great, love it. The 80 year war has so much intresting stuff but outside the Netherlands much is unknown. If you ever do one again on the 80 years war I recommend the siege of Leiden and Antwerp. Especially the former

    • @richardd8433
      @richardd8433 Před 3 lety

      Well the burcht is a intresting story to tell. And we hold and got saves by the water geuzen

  • @chriswade8949
    @chriswade8949 Před 3 lety +1

    I just phone you and I’m already hooked! I don’t consider myself a master historian By any means but it seems like everyone covers the same historical battles! Refreshing to see one I don’t already know about. keep up the good work!

  • @spoolofflarn8760
    @spoolofflarn8760 Před 3 lety +1

    One of the few history YT channels where the creator does their own narration and does it wonderfully. Nice.

  • @alexanderkomosa9134
    @alexanderkomosa9134 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for these incredibly informative videos

  • @robertomorsink2014
    @robertomorsink2014 Před 4 lety +46

    I'am interessed in Dutch history, but I never read this in Dutch history books. (School books I mean).
    It's all about the seige of .s Herthogenbosch and Breda.
    Every country has his blind spots!
    Thanks for this. well done !!!

    • @KapiteinKrentebol
      @KapiteinKrentebol Před 4 lety +4

      That's because the educational system sucks balls.

    • @marcroelse9517
      @marcroelse9517 Před 4 lety

      @@KapiteinKrentebol only history in the netherlands is a bit legleted in lage en middelbare school

    • @Lttlemoi
      @Lttlemoi Před 4 lety +8

      Similar thing in Flanders, where most of the 80 years war is summed up as _"The Spanjards were cunts and they sacked Antwerp. Also catholics, protestants and Dutch independence."_

    • @Klikoderat
      @Klikoderat Před 4 lety +3

      I don't know how it is now, but 20 years ago when I went to school Dutch history lessons where atrociously bad, and the tests for history where made so everybody could pass with minimal effort. Dutch school system sucks, Mauritz is rolling in his grave!

    • @chubbymoth5810
      @chubbymoth5810 Před 4 lety +5

      Recent nationalist influence has dumbed down history telling. Baltasar Gerards is now promoted as a hired assassin rather than the Catholic Jihadi he was. Instead of pointing at the complexities of history, it has all become a Chinese televison version of history with the good Dutch burgher fighting the nameless masses of barbarians. Even the slave trade is neatly divided in the East India Company and the West India Company, with the latter getting the blame for slave trade. The good guys of the East India company wreaked their own havoc on the natives, but that is only discussed during the Indonesian anti colonial revolt. Never saw much mention in the books of van Heust committing genocide in Atjeh for instance, but a 80% population decline in some areas really should count as such. Only when reading Multatuli and getting information on the reasons for his book to be such an influence do you get some of that sorry era. I guess people don;'t want to remember the bad deeds of their ancestors that much and only look at the bright side.

  • @SJ23982398
    @SJ23982398 Před 3 lety

    Really like the visuals, simple and clear yet they still look good. Just the right mix!

  • @bartsamaey2837
    @bartsamaey2837 Před 3 lety

    This is the best explanation i've ever seen about the siege of Ostend and I've lived here my whole life.

  • @sullivannix4509
    @sullivannix4509 Před 3 lety

    absolutely love this channel, especially the siege videos!

  • @viking8781
    @viking8781 Před rokem

    Love the animations and content. Definitely subscribed

  • @tomvanuytsel3465
    @tomvanuytsel3465 Před 4 lety +3

    I really loved this video. It's a part of Dutch/Flemish history that isn't well known in my country. Because of these kind of video's my intrest is growing for these hidden parts of history.

  • @khyberw
    @khyberw Před 3 lety

    I love your videos, especially the ones about early modern warfare. Keep making content!

  • @Nich-ib7xv
    @Nich-ib7xv Před 3 lety +24

    5:32 Damn what a dope painting with Spanish cross of Burgundy flags and Castilla y León symbols

    • @delarkaBCN
      @delarkaBCN Před 3 lety

      Me gusta cuando confunden españa con castilla y los castellanos ni os immutais. porque serà?

    • @Sam-xd9xt
      @Sam-xd9xt Před 2 lety

      Pretty dope, though I believe they are captured from the field or ships (the teared up flags) but that's just my interpretation

  • @marcusfranconium3392
    @marcusfranconium3392 Před 2 lety +5

    Its such a shame that only a few of the battles during the 80 year war are publicly known , while there are so many note worthy battles and events they got forgotten overtime.

  • @humo89
    @humo89 Před 4 lety +2

    The best Eid al Fitr gift a man could ask for. Awesome work🔥

  • @LordOceanus
    @LordOceanus Před 3 lety +1

    What i love about this channel is that anything occurring after 1800 has been covered to death by countless creators and the medieval period (we will generously call it Year 1000 to 1500) is well covered by a smaller but still large group of creators. But if i want to learn about an event occurring between 1500 and 1700 or learn something that is not just about building or military and political action in ancient Rome there are far fewer options. What i am saying Shandrhoman is that you are not just another source for the topics of your videos you are THE source. Keep it up! I would say something to you in German but at least to my ear Swiss German is very difficult to understand much less speak.

  • @Mr67Stanger
    @Mr67Stanger Před 3 lety

    Awesome graphics! Great story too. Thank you.

  • @fr33w33d
    @fr33w33d Před 3 lety +1

    i am seriusly impressed by your pronounciation of Grave, well done.
    And the rest of course, but grave caught me off guard

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures Před 4 lety +17

    Another gorgeous work to watch, fantastic illustrations and animations as always, ans great explanations...Thanks for this new masterpiece!🙏🙏

  • @wladyslawderstreiter9078
    @wladyslawderstreiter9078 Před 4 lety +2

    Finally became Patreon today to support your awesome content.

  • @su_morenito_1948
    @su_morenito_1948 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video keep up the good work 👏👏👏👏

  • @ted1045
    @ted1045 Před 3 lety

    A staggering siege of which I knew nothing about before watching this. Quite informative.

  • @DolanOk
    @DolanOk Před 4 lety

    Love the videos, keep it up!

  • @stormxlr2377
    @stormxlr2377 Před 3 lety

    This was a really cool video 🙂, very entertaining and well presented.

  • @mrvitrants8789
    @mrvitrants8789 Před 3 lety +5

    great vid , one thing though you mention that the canister canon shot was loaded with musket balls , that's incorrect , it was actually loaded with steel balls whereas musket balls where made out of lead , lead has a tenancy to stick together which would be very problematic as you can assume

  • @davidcunningham2074
    @davidcunningham2074 Před rokem

    a very good channel. extremely well researched.

  • @Marcusjnmc
    @Marcusjnmc Před 3 lety

    thank you for this. very interesting

  • @MaxSluiman
    @MaxSluiman Před 3 lety

    Again a very interesting video. Subscribed.

  • @geraldillo
    @geraldillo Před 3 lety

    Excellent video!

  • @JurAAlexander
    @JurAAlexander Před 4 lety +13

    I like the Face That you make Videos about That unpopular war. Everybody has his waterloo video but Siege of ostende is new

  • @paladinbob1236
    @paladinbob1236 Před 4 lety

    a siege i had not heard of...which i thank you for enlightening me :)

  • @vicentgalvan70
    @vicentgalvan70 Před 3 lety

    OUTSTANDING work! Subscribed! You MUUUUST do the Siege of Breda!

  • @prof.yurivaldesalvarezarza3998

    Thank you very much, actually learned this from reading Charles R Boxer, Cornelis Goslinga, John Lothrop Motley and Menendez Pinal around 1987

    • @delarkaBCN
      @delarkaBCN Před 3 lety

      what about historians who didnt live in the shadow of francoism?

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice video. This siege was very much like the siege of ancient Troy alright. It had everything. Except a Trojan horse maneuver. Nice job.

  • @daanvanderrol5627
    @daanvanderrol5627 Před 4 lety

    Interesting video! I'm Dutch myself and a bit of an amateur historian, but I hadn't heard of this siege before today. Thanks.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia Před 3 lety

      Moet je weten he Daan ;)

    • @asadattayyem2637
      @asadattayyem2637 Před 3 lety

      This proves:
      (1) Either you aren't Dutch (Most unprobable because of your name!);
      (2) Or you aren't a great historian (Most probable);
      (3) Or both!
      😂🤣😀
      Just joking with you man!
      Best Regards!
      😀😀😀
      🌻🌹🌷

  • @timdebie6427
    @timdebie6427 Před 3 lety

    Great Video!!

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 Před 4 lety +11

    This siege was quite short compared to the siege of Candia,Crete 1648-1669 during the Ottoman-Venetian wars and the even longer siege of Ceuta between Morocco and Spain!

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 Před 3 lety +1

      By the siege of Ceuta, you mean, Spanyards sieging it or the Moroccans sieging it? After the portuguese conquest of Ceuta i basically didn't heared anything more about the region

    • @enriquepascual8767
      @enriquepascual8767 Před 3 lety +2

      Morrocoans sieging the spanish city of Ceuta in north Africa, the longest siege in history

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 3 lety

      @@enriquepascual8767 Shouldn't you people be putting numbers to these!!!! Come on man FACTS!!!!!!!

  • @esterzine6561
    @esterzine6561 Před 4 lety +19

    Man watching these videos about early modern sieges really shows you just how underwhelming the siege mechanics are in EU IV...

  • @xavierpetit9759
    @xavierpetit9759 Před 3 lety

    I didn't know this battle, it was a great video thank you !

    • @kristofantal8801
      @kristofantal8801 Před 3 lety

      Siege, not a battle! Battle and siege is technically not the same.

  • @AdamBechtol
    @AdamBechtol Před 3 lety

    Thanks for crafting this video. :)

  • @monkeyddizze
    @monkeyddizze Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing vid good job thats a Like + Sub

  • @andreattafabio
    @andreattafabio Před 4 lety

    Awesome Content

  • @nice4615
    @nice4615 Před 3 lety

    i love your videos man

  • @tdoge
    @tdoge Před 4 lety +41

    So 'New Troy' was basically a wall of dead bodies? must have smelled awful

    • @DKNkmFrvr
      @DKNkmFrvr Před 3 lety +3

      and holy fuck, the disease hazard

    • @utubrGaming
      @utubrGaming Před 3 lety +4

      ​@@DKNkmFrvr If the Spanish and starvation didn't kill the defenders, their own defenses just might have done the job given a week.

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 Před 2 lety

      Depends on which side you are.

  • @nicholasspangler7049
    @nicholasspangler7049 Před 2 lety

    What was the violin playing for the video? Also keep up the great work! I just discovered your channel and now endeavor on the arduous task of binge watching your videos!

  • @lmaozedong2259
    @lmaozedong2259 Před 3 lety

    Top notch animations! Wow

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 Před 4 lety +2

    Such a big battle and I've never heard of it... Just imagine being a veteran of it and know that after all that happened, everything has been forgotten...

    • @manueldelafuente9806
      @manueldelafuente9806 Před rokem

      Verás , hubo muchas , pero si estaban los españoles por medio, tanto ingleses, como franceses NO LO RECUERDAN!!! Qué raro!!! Solo nos nombran cuando perdían 🙄🤏.de las batallas navales, solo Trafalgar...... donde les partimos el culo,no esas no me acuerdo 🫣🫣ya va siendo hora que rectifiquen!!

  • @johnivan9672
    @johnivan9672 Před 4 lety +2

    You should make a video about siege of Candia (1648-1669) and sieges of Ceuta (1694-1727).The longest sieges in history.

  • @donshufflah
    @donshufflah Před 4 lety +25

    Very detailed documentary, thank you for sharing. Never knew it was that bloody. Can you make one of the siege of Antwerp (also by the Spaniards), which ended its golden age and heralded in the Dutch one.

    • @edumorera7427
      @edumorera7427 Před 4 lety +5

      It didnt ended, and the Spanish won that battle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Antwerp

    • @donshufflah
      @donshufflah Před 4 lety +5

      @@edumorera7427 Even on wiki it's mentioned that the golden age of Antwerp ended after the siege. 40% of the world trade passed Antwerp during its primetime, reduced to practically zero due to the Dutch blockade. But if you see the port of Antwerp today, it's certainly not just your ordinary port. Even having higher growth percentages than Rotterdam.

    • @istoppedcaring6209
      @istoppedcaring6209 Před 4 lety +2

      @@donshufflah antwerp is huge, largely because the americans decided it would be better to invest in antwerp after ww2 than to give the dutch a near monopoly, it was allready a big port before that ofcourse, the city did not become some backwater town after losing, but yeah you know the story
      honestly i sometimes think how much better things would be for us if we just reunified, and formed a new country, new name, new constitution, new army, new taks system, exetra
      we allready have the most industrious population of europe, asside from maybe the germans, a dutch Union is the way forward

    • @wouterberings6535
      @wouterberings6535 Před 3 lety

      @@istoppedcaring6209 why the fuck do I see you everywhere

    • @dylan__dog
      @dylan__dog Před 3 lety +2

      @@istoppedcaring6209 the Spanish victory devastated Antwerp as the Spanish deported all non Catholics out of the city and drastically reduced its population

  • @orphydianhistory7822
    @orphydianhistory7822 Před 4 lety

    There is a room indeed for this kind of channel. I like how you are kind of specialised. Can you find and use actual depictions of the time and factions you are talking about as well as imagery like actual Dutch defences from that century. Or that is too much hassle ?

  • @kauemoura
    @kauemoura Před 3 lety +17

    When going to Oostende, don't forget to wear your mask on the train, and take advantage of your ticket between Brussels and the coast to visit Bruges and Ghent. :p

    • @Sandwich13455
      @Sandwich13455 Před 3 lety

      I played in a school football team,we went to Bruges by the ferry,if my memory serves me right, the town square was cobbled streets and there was an amazing town clock!

  • @AstrumEspanol
    @AstrumEspanol Před 4 lety

    Amazing video! Love the animation style

  • @seansantos5493
    @seansantos5493 Před 3 lety

    Very good video.

  • @benderrodriguez5425
    @benderrodriguez5425 Před 3 lety

    Great content, just a little note
    's Hertogenbosch is pronounced more with the S then the H. The S is hard while the H is pretty soft. Keep up the good work.

  • @bari4007
    @bari4007 Před 4 lety +16

    Imagine how crazy it is to just „inspect“ the siege. I’d probably shit my pants if I see a Cannon firing.

  • @beeldpuntXVI
    @beeldpuntXVI Před 3 lety

    Nice vid

  • @bypyros1933
    @bypyros1933 Před 4 lety +3

    Please, do a video about the battle of Empel.

  • @vanivanov9571
    @vanivanov9571 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. I still recommend adding subtitles, though. It would likely help to grow the audience.

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks for the reminder. I added our transcript. It'll take a few hours then it will be visible publicly.

    • @vanivanov9571
      @vanivanov9571 Před 4 lety

      @@SandRhomanHistory Great! You may've done this already, but I recommend adding transcripts to some of the older videos, as people who find the channel but have trouble keeping up may be turned away by that.
      This episode was pretty easy to follow for me, though even I couldn't recognize a couple of the names.

  • @boendal2529
    @boendal2529 Před 4 lety +1

    Very Very Very GOOD !!
    Pls bring more xd
    Greetings from Germany

  • @gabrielvanhauten4169
    @gabrielvanhauten4169 Před 4 lety +1

    Such a cool channel, also a cool dude

  • @thebirdmapper357
    @thebirdmapper357 Před 4 lety +8

    Everyone: How such an amazing video and a siege,keep up the good work!
    Me: Why this Olaf van Nimwegen guy looks like Doc. Emmett Brown from Back to the Fature?

    • @morbiusv5857
      @morbiusv5857 Před 3 lety

      You know too much mister «The bird Watcher»

  • @TimDutch
    @TimDutch Před 4 lety +2

    A like anything about the Dutch 🙌 much appreciated!

  • @chubbymoth5810
    @chubbymoth5810 Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent detailed history video. The casualty figures need some grain of salt though as the fighting wasn't that intense all the time. In all though having to lay siege to a city in a swamp was very costly for the attacker and the main reason why they often didn't last that long. Ostende was a prestige object as well,.. a bit like Stalingrad, with both sides pouring in resources. In all it will have been costly in loss of life also due to attrition and disease. If you ever have been camping in a peat bog in winter, you'll get the idea of widespread misery.

  • @Alejojojo6
    @Alejojojo6 Před 2 lety +2

    In Spanish, you would not say "Estoy sorprendido" (That's a literal translation of the english 'Im surprised') you will say "Qué sorpresa" or "Menuda sorpresa"

  • @Jim58223
    @Jim58223 Před 4 lety +12

    Please do a video on Ambrosio Spinola. Thank you.

  • @dawnmaster68
    @dawnmaster68 Před 3 lety +1

    Actually you touched on the city of 's-Hertogenbosch ... it eventually fell to Maurits's son Frederik Hendrik. And was the first time draining massive swamplands was done succesfully (untill then it's defences had never been breached even once. That is where throughout the darkages the city had gotten the nickname "swampdragon") . It also resulted in the building of an inverted citadel. That still exists today.

  • @22vx
    @22vx Před 3 lety

    Excellent 👍❤

  • @handlesrstupid123
    @handlesrstupid123 Před rokem

    been watching all your siege videos love your work. I wish someone would make a comprehensive set of videos of the American civil war fort and city battles/sieges.

  • @vasilijestevanovic5142
    @vasilijestevanovic5142 Před 3 lety +1

    This sounded like a fantasy horror story, especially the New Troy part. Very gruesome.

  • @cermiosi
    @cermiosi Před 2 lety

    can one find the music you are using anywhere? i love the track that you used for example at 7:50

  • @Daketnietweet
    @Daketnietweet Před 3 lety

    I go to school there. Also the way you say Oostende sounds almost 👌.

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS4 Před 3 lety +2

    15:56 in such sequences it would be nice to have the approximate date written in a corner

  • @johndorilag4129
    @johndorilag4129 Před 2 lety

    Can you do a video on the Dunkirkers?

  • @jesusseoane2296
    @jesusseoane2296 Před 3 lety +5

    It was a civil war based on religion, with Dutch’s fighting on both sides, catholic Dutch’s where the biggest part of the Spanish tercios on the 80 year war

  • @freyrds8870
    @freyrds8870 Před 3 lety +10

    It's rare to see Oostende being relevant for once, fascinating.

  • @JP-bp5bo
    @JP-bp5bo Před 3 lety

    Excellent.

  • @janscheldeman56
    @janscheldeman56 Před 2 lety +1

    I live in Bredene literally 100 meters away from Oostende and go to school in Oostende and never knew this happend.

  • @Balgore8
    @Balgore8 Před 3 lety

    What a crazy battle