The Only Thing Worse Than WOMEN'S BOXING! w/ Fr. Jason Charron
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I’m glad I’m not the only one for whom the prospect of women’s combat sports seems wrong.
She is not trans!!
I honestly have a lot of energy that needs a productive outlet. I’ve done competitive firearms since high school. A lot of men and some women have bursts of violent energy that needs to be directed into something positive. If you can recognize that in yourself and direct it into something that won’t ruin all of your relationships, that’s actually a very positive thing.
I wonder what Matt’s take on St. Joan of Arc is in the context of this conversation
I hope I misunderstand you. I am totally with you regarding boxing. But are you telling us that all women sports are impropriate because we are women? Skiing, tennis, swimming, sailing, soccer?
In that case I would say you aremisogynists.
Of cause women is better at nursering, but some of us have sport skills we would like to practise and comepeate in.
I really like your podcast but this made me sad,
Sorry for my english. I’m from Sweden.
I don't know where you got that from, he did say that about boxing because its basically beating each other up. And he also said he thinks its probobly not good for men either.
I think Matt is saying that neither men nor women should engage in a sport where success means seriously injuring the other person, which seems to be the case with boxing. I think he is also saying that it's even more obvious that women should not engage in this sport, than that men should not engage in it. I don't think he's saying anything against men or women engaging in sports where injury is not the goal, like tennis, swimming, soccer, etc.
I only speak English and that’s what it sounded like he was suggesting to me as well.
martial arts are an ART, and they teach us methods of defending ourselves and loved ones. they teach respect and discipline.
99% of the time you're working hard to ensure your training partners can train with you safely. 1% of the time, you're competing to the best of your ability to test your limits and strive for greatness.
So many people miss this bc they’ve never trained and all they see is that 1% and so all they see are those few moment when it’s turned up to 100. Not their fault, they’ve just not seen the whole picture
My good friend, a neuro physiotherapist, calls boxing” legal head injury “
Legal deliberate inflicted head injury on another that is. Most head injuries are perfectly legal.
Honestly Matt, you and PWA is one of the reasons I converted to Catholicism from Protestantism at Easter. I'm from NYC, unmarried, in my 40s an attorney, was a Fulbright Scholar in Colombia, was a secular feminist liberal, like gun training and trained BJJ at an MMA gym for three years (now at a more traditional gym). For so long I did not think there was room for women like me in Catholicism but now I'm finding out that Catholicism actually has all the most, in the word's of Fr. Merosne, "BA" women from our demon-terrorizing Blessed Mother, to scholars such as Hildegaard von Bingen and Joan of Arc! I was a tomboy and not interested in motherhood or children and that's okay. St. Paul says the greatest vocation is to be single and give your life to God. The Lord called me late to the church because had I gotten in earlier, I would have possibly missed my ability to live in five countries and pursued a more intellectual life because I may have felt more pressure to be married and have children. You are not alone in your belief. I find many Cradle Catholics fall into the same trap as Protestant men when it comes to the other extreme of "traditional" gender roles. I still love you and love your show! But some women, we love combat sports, and we are NOT trying to be gay or men and still love our calling to the Lord and the Eucharist. Much love to you still one of your biggest fans!
I'm the only one I know whose reaction to this story was "Should women be boxing?"
@@rickpaul4216 the answer is no
The love of money is the root of all evil...seems that this generation is heading back to the barbaric times.
The IBA is ran by the russians. They determined her test levels were too high AFTER she defeated a russian boxer in a tournament in 2023. This made the russian boxer record perfect. They never released the results from the test.
The IBA is controlled by Umar Kremlev, who is Russian and brought in the state-owned energy supplier Gazprom as its primary sponsor and moved much of the governing body’s operations to Russia.
I’m not saying they lied, but I'm saying that I wouldn't put too much weight in the words of a russian ran sports association that directly affect matches that russians lose in.
Interesting, that makes sense but it should also be easy to resolve, make them take another genetic, hormonal and everything necessary 🤷♀️
@@jonatikaWwe They have, she passed all test to qualify for the Olympics.
Also she had been Boxing for a long time at that point. She's clearly not some unstoppable man beating up women when she has like 9 losses and 6 by KNOCKOUT!
From what I read, it wasn't that the testosterone level was too high, it was that a DNA test revealed this individual had XY chromosomes.
@@ljeans531 unmm which ones? On their statement they said they went with what the passport said. Truth is their “regulations” have been a mess for some time now, I ‘ve seen actual sport scientists complain about them long before this week controversy
This one is a miss. By the logic that physical strength is more unbecoming of a woman, does this make female Olympic weightlifting gross?
@@jameschebahtah yes, but it's my opinion and I'm not really interested in defending it. Perhaps I should say that's my preference.
I don't think it was said that strength was unbecoming of women. So no, female Olympic weightlifting is not gross. Sans steroids etc. in ANY competition either gender.
@@TheHomeWoodShop by gross he doesn’t mean unappealing. He means morally deficient. You can prefer if women you persue aren’t athletic, but those women that are athletic aren’t morally inferior to an unathletic one based on that fact alone.
@@jameschebahtah Yeah its kinda gross honestly.
@@magikarp2063 how is a female performing a heavy back squat gross but a male performing a heavy back squat not?
To defend innocent people you need to fight
With football, hockey, etc., there are rules to protect players from serious, intentionally inflicted injuries.
Agreed. Boxing is immoral. It’s modern day gladiator games.
Boxing is an effective martial art for self defense. Reduced in techniques compared to kickboxing, wrestling, jujitsu, karate, etc and easy to learn.
Even Matt acknowledged, it's a man's duty to protect.
Many will recommend BJJ because going to the ground is common, which isn't wrong; but in self defense, going to ground intentionally is NOT recommended, because self defense and sport have differences.
Better to stay on ones feet, ready to run as soon as possible. Grappling one opponent, while his friends kick you on the ground is not recommended. Not to mention, variability of ground surfaces like gravel & concrete (no fun), grass (forgiving), dirt & sand (put into opponents eyes, before they put in yours).
I would say, it comes to mind that if a girl grows up, say, in a tough neighbourhood and is taught to be tough, and finds the boxing ring to be a good outlet, form of self-defense, and healthy challenge, then I don't see why she shouldn't be able to get in the ring with another woman who finds the same. Or if a girl grows up surrounded by boxing - let's say her Dad is big into boxing and she spends time with him at the gym, then she might grow to respect the sport and perhaps want to participate. There are some tough chicks out there.... I disagree here and don't see a problem with it .....
I agree, In some trad circles there is to much of a stigma of women doing anything that is scene even remotely manly.
@@nicolamustard7232 fighting like that because you lived in a tough neighborhood, it would just means you learned to fight to survive and make it an sport. It does not seem very smart. There are so many better options.
My father was an amateur power lifter and got me into the sport as a teen. It can be extremely empowering to build one's strength. Combat sports are completely different. Women have much thinner bones than men, and permanent, sometimes lethal, damage can be done with much less effort than to a man. The potential cons heavily outweigh any pros. If her neighbourhood is truly that dangerous, home school or have her brother/male relative walk her to school.
If women do a martial art, it should be bjj. It gives them a tool to defend themselves against a bigger opponent which most attacks on women are committed by men.
Or Judo or wrestling. Grappling in general but yeah BJJ is at the top for me.
@@PaladinJackalyeah basically so.e martial art were you can actually spar with people of different sizes as well as spar with men.
@@michaelschmidt7214 All the combat sports are good but grappling is just as effective if not more and you can go all out in training (not every day) without hurting each other.
@@bw24summit Lol okay
The new Olympic sport: domestic abuse!
or migrant abuse, since the perpetrator was a Moslem man punching a European woman very hard. Diversity in action
My dad is a gold-medalist
“Your peace will communicate with them.” How true! Case in point: what are the trolls looking for? A stunned, irrational reaction.
I have worked in hospitals, and one elderly person there was “punch-drunk”. He had been a boxer for years and couldn’t walk or speak, but in his armchair was constantly mimicking the movements of a boxer. It was tragic to see, but dangerous to be within arms length. He punched anyone who came near him
Watch any videos of Mohamed Ali in his last few years of life, He may have floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee but all those punches to the head caught up with him.
Look at (American) Football players over the last 5 or 6 decades and how they fare in later life
I just don't understand the leaps that Matt takes sometimes. Like, yes, drag queens are gross and sinful. Of course! But ... boxing is gross? The early women's suffragette movement which was based on Christian values is gross? The more I watch Matt the more I think the only way he looks at things in the world is either "this is completely good and we should do it" or "this is completely bad and we should avoid it." That's just not correct.
I do think most things are like that but if you’re actually interested in feminism and its history, Lila Rose has a few interesting interviews on the topic on her channel
I do think strong opinions are usually unwise. One should approach questions with humility but conviction in the fundamentals of your faith and world view. I think being a radical anything besides Catholic or Christian is not acceptable. Don’t be a radical political conservative or liberal or anything but a radical Catholic.
Check out Tammy Peterson's podcast on the suffragette movement. They were terrorists!
@@Firenicelyexactly!
The suffragette movement was pretty antinatal as well. As for women’s boxing, that’s a little more blurry.
I like the part about being silent after you state the truth. I don’t do the back and forth thing much anymore but try to plant the seed. I’m so concerned about my loved ones but also have to surrender myself to Jesus- please take care of everything ✝️🙏♥️
In all honesty - women should be taught real life self defence, and there are many great martial arts to teach this, but honestly teaching the basics like eye gouging, ear deafening slaps to the side of the head, nut kicking, and biting… when you’re literally fighting for your life - these are the things I want my daughters to know. After working my way through 4 belts in Kuk Sool Won (very effective self defence martial art) that teaches a lot of dislocations, and bone breaking, not so much of an athletic sport like tae Kwan do…. I still believe just teaching great people skills, and raising moral human beings that don’t frequent late night clubs at dangerous hours/locations - and learning gymnastics and track and field to raise the most athletic little humans that can escape dangerous situations on demand. There’s no shame in running when you have to, but teach our boys to be men to stand up for what’s right without seeking out a fight, and teach our girls to defend their lives, if and when they have to.
I'm w/Trent Horn 🥊
Imagine Jesus saying “this is gross” or “they are gross” when referring to a lost soul. Can you imagine? If you can, show me scripture where Jesus calls someone a name like “gross” the way Matt refers to trans people. All sin is detestable to God. Even the ones that aren’t related to sexuality, but never once was a command given to followers of Christ to call sinners names. To make them feel like less of a human. How do we minister to gay and trans people while calling them “gross”?
Good point, but to be fair, i think he's referring to the act, not the person, and sin is gross. So i think it's fine to say "drag queen are gross" (meaning the persona of a drag queen they put on and the shows they're doing), while still acknowledging that the person is not.
Matt said that drag queens are gross. Dressing in drag is completely a conscious choice, not something that an individual struggles with and has little control over.
For the record, given that the trans movement has targeted children and Jesus was all about protecting kids, I don't think that He would be in favour of it.
Jesus did call sinners a brood of vipers, which was a huge insult at the time.
About your comments on MMA, boxing etc. Unless you have actually tried sparring against someone, then you would not understand why people might do this. I don't think money is enough of a motivator when it comes to fighting. There is a particular mental toughness that is needed to fight for sport. Not just physical toughness. It's nothing anyone can understand unless they themselves have sparred. Sparring with another person is one o the most difficult, challenging and spirit developing things I have ever done. It grows you as an individual in ways that you cannot understand unless you have done it. I have immense respect for anyone who spars for a living.
I guess… but u can get all of that from other sports can’t u? I think the problem with boxing is the damage it causes and the infliction of damage on the other person. Like distance running for elexample is not bad for your body or destructive to another man, but allows you to fully break urself down and test ur mental fortitude under pressure you have never felt before
@@Firenicely here's something you can't get from other sports. Martial arts teach you to defend yourself and be aware of your safety. In order to do that ypu have to spar, period.
It is absolutely beneficial to the spirit to spar. Especially with a friend or a brother who has the right intent (Iron sharpens Iron).
@@Firenicely It is like a dance with another person in the most intimate way possible. I guess it would be hard to understand if you do not understand a warrior thought process. Take care and God bless.
Matt isn't talking about sparring with friends at the gym. He's talking about competitive high stakes boxing and MMA, where it's nearly guaranteed someone is losing consciousness.
And people are paying money to watch the spectacle of someone receiving brain damage.
Never been a fan of watching people beat each other up in any way shape or form!!!
Yeah gotta disagree with that boxing take.
I think men boxing with careful regulation and a ref who is experienced and has the fighters safety in mind then I think it’s ok. You have two men agreeing to fight by the rules and stop when the ref tells you to stop. UFC I think tends to take it a bit far, after getting a knockdown there can be ground and pound. i agree wholeheartedly with you about women fighting. I think the dignity of women’s bodies is not upheld in any amount of fighting while men’s still can be while following safety rules and having a ref. Good video and I do think this should be discussed more. In fact, I’d love to see a debate with Trent and someone else about this.
Dude, you're horribly out of touch. Women are allowed to learn how to defend themselves. Why are you like this?
These types of incidents are precisely the reason why feminism exists. It is very nice to see men speaking out against this, though there are many men that say women are on their own with this.
When people make really poor arguments or are completely neglectful of the facts or nuances, then really that is when I wonder whether I could be wrong about everything. Like Catholic people like me have given this guy a platform and he is a basic dummy with some philosophy; I supported him when he left his day job, but we get self-indulgent bad arguments? Like maybe we are all just a bunch of dumb dumbs and there’s nothing to it all, just a bunch of mistaken people.
I’ve been thinking about taking up boxing. Seems like a good outlet, and antidote to spiritual softness.
I would recommend bjj instead, more useful and substantially less chance of brain damage
Yeah boxing is awesome, great cardio too.
Do it it's great
Best of Luck with those TBI's.
I would say the difference between football and boxing is the intent. The goal of football is to get the ball to the endzone. In that pursuit or in blocking that goal there may be damage done. The goal of boxing is to damage the other person. The damage isn't incidental. And I think people watching things like mma are watching to see bones broken and faces bloodied. How wonderful to witness violence while being excused from feeling compassion.
Boxxing should have never been a sport because unlike wrestling the goal is to harm your opponent so much that they can't get back up or they surrender and that too for entertainment. Whereas, wrestling is about pinning down an opponent for a certain time period or bringing them out of bounds and there are rules set in place to minimize injury. At least martial arts is about defending oneselfg heck less injury has come out of martial art competitions then boxing.
I can understand that it may seem like that is the point of boxing while watching it, especially heavy weight classes but it is not. Boxing is a point scoring sport. The more hits you land on your opponent, the more points you score. You don't need to necessarily go for as much damage as possible, you just need to land clean hits.
So Ms. Iman was born as biologically female.
Its just that she has DSD so here testosterone levels is higher than her estrogen(mainly a female hormone).
That is why shes much stronger. That is why there are different gender classes. So that it would be fair.
In countries like Algeria, males born with inadequate appendages are automatically classed as female without any further evidence.
Is there a threshold that they can still fight with elevated testosterone? I haven’t seen it since TRT which was swiftly banned.
@@hellobello3153 you can read the news from verified sources for that. Im just a common civillian. My knowledge is limited
Iman has xy chromosomes.
Iman is a man.
Everyone keeps repeating "was born female", I know you just heard it and are running with it but it makes no sense.
A guy cant be "born female", he can only be misjudged by the doctors as female because of his genetic disorder that made it seem like the baby is a girl.
What is the "born female" supposed to mean?
It’s so important for men to learn how to fight, to be strong, and to be able to defend themselves and their family. Fighting sports should be strongly encouraged for men.
Yes I agree, these sports also teach discipline.
Men are the defenders and women are the protectors.
Fr Charron's concluding words is what I am taking away from this segment.
Women fighting for their rights in the 1920s was needed. When Catholic Ireland got independence from Protestant Britain in the 1920s woman voting in the new Ireland wasnt even questioned.
Incidentally Matt, interviewing is a job perfectly suited to women!
I agree with Matt on this one. We shouldnt be glorifying violence, paying to watch men or women give each other brain damage is unethical in my view.
Worse case scenario they become disabled and require 24 hour care. No one cares about these men in the industry though, theyre pushed to the side with no compensation and we all focus on the next up and coming star.
its a mutual agreement to combat. its not immoral.
Girl vs Ihmair is like Ukraine vs Russia. Such pleasure to watch
You know this breaks my heart.. First of all, do the research before saying things.. That female boxer is not transgender, she was born a girl with girl parts.. You do realize she’s from Algeria where that is completely illegal with the penalty of death! it is so hard for me as a Catholic with a gay brother and seeing my mother balling her eyes out when going to a bible class saying these kind people meaning her son is doomed to hell.. Me nor my family will ever abandon my brother ever!
You do realize that Jesus didn’t hang around with the priests and the holy people of his time.. The people closest to Jesus were once thieves, liars, murderers and even a demon possessed prostitute that are now Saints!
The apostles displayed lack of comprehension (Mark 4:13), little faith (4:40), hard hearts (6:52), competitiveness (9:34), possessiveness (9:38), selfish ambition (10:37) and jealousy (10:41). Worst of all, when Jesus was arrested, they all left him and fled (Mark 14:50).
Try humbling yourselves before you’re quick to judge.. Think of what Jesus thinks of you calling people disgusting??
@@ameliadelcastillo5424 Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute.
Just because you sympathize with this man does not make what he is doing okay. Do you also think that gay men have a right to utilize surrogates too?
You are correct scripture is not definitive on this matter, but we do know that there is a longstanding tradition that identifies Mary Magdalene as the woman (prostitute) who dried Jesus’ tears (Luke 7:36-50). This tradition is bolstered by the biblical evidence that Mary Magdalene had seven demons exorcised from her (Luke 9:1-3)
I think you're right Matt. I wanted to do boxing as a teenager; at least fight in amateur sport. And, there was just something that didn't make any sense doing it, or aiming to prepare for it.
The Feminist movement was always anti family.
Matt likes to watch Boxing? Why?
Thanks, that technique was very helpful...am going home to spend 3 weeks with my woke family, and know this type of stuff will come up...
What I've read is that the individual is indeed intersex--most people online keep guessing Swyer Syndrome, although I don't think that's been verified. (Read up on Swyer Syndrome--it's tragic. A lot of times these patients don't even know that they have an XY karyotype until their teen years, when they fail to start normal puberty. From what I can find, they have almost all anatomically normal internal female anatomy, including vaginal canal, cervix, uterus, and fallopian tubes--but no functional ovaries, just stunted nonfunctional gonads that turn into scar tissue when they're still in the womb. It's because a deletion on the Y chromosome fails to trigger the mother's body to dump testosterone into the embryo's bloodstream, the process that normally leads to male anatomical development.) I feel badly for athletes who are TRULY intersex due to a birth defect that they did not choose. It's an impossible situation, because they'll have an unfair advantage against biological women, but a similar disadvantage against biological men. Perhaps an intersex athlete racing against women gets a 3-second delayed start and an intersex athlete racing against men gets a 3-second head start (or some other number--I don't keep track of racing enough to know how many seconds would count to 'even the field'). A similar technique could be used in contact sports like wrestling and boxing. Put them in a heavier weight category if competing against women or a lighter weight category if competing against men. That's the best compromise I can think of. It's harder to say "just create a third category" for intersex athletes than for self-identified trans athletes, because there are statistically far fewer truly Intersex people than people who currently self-identify as transgender and attempt to compete in women's sports--and unlike a person who chooses to transition their gender expression, an intersex person did not CHOOSE their condition--it was thrust upon them. I was born with a birth defect (NOT an intersex condition though) myself, so I sympathize: I want people to try to be understanding and accommodate me where possible . . . but at the same time, I don't expect non-disabled people to twist themselves into pretzels and destroy their own prospects in order to lay out the red carpet for me.
@@jessicalambert6369 Or let them have their own competitions with other intersex individuals?
Yes I feel such intense sympathy for this individual. Especially with the way inflammatory media has incited hatred and bitterness toward her. Imagine living the reality where your biological gender is actually confusing. How horrifying. I hope she hasn't received too much hate. We as Catholics need to rise above such vicious media slander and seen truth with charity.
We can chill a little. This is someone who because of masculine traits and genetics took up boxing to tear up women, make $, whatever else. After being rejected in competitive events because of this clear advantage, still insists on easily beating up women. Yeah the publicity of it is embarrassing for her, but she’s facing some bigger problems it sounds like.
@@bobjenkins3rdNot true. There's no proof she's trans or intersex or whatever. She's from a place where you can't legally change your gender and has been boxing her whole life and has lost plenty to other women. She was disqualified in one event by one association the whole world is disavowing at this point for being led by corrupt Russians after she beat a Russian boxer.
Let’s just have 3 categories: male, female, and everyone else/open.
Our job isn’t to create a perfect solution where everyone who doesn’t fit the 2 main categories has a great number of competitors and feels perfectly included.
Our job is to create a system that is as fair as possible to the largest number of athletes as possible. Forcing males & females to compete against people that don’t fit their category isn’t fair.
All forms of martial arts are necessary for the human race. Unfortunately there will always be bad people who will try to inflict damage upon someone or their family. I am a faithful Catholic and I do jiu jitsu and I wrestled in high school. I know with the skills I have acquired I have a better chance of protecting my family and myself. As for the combat sports I feel that these people do it in a safer environment than in a street fight. As for a man and woman fighting in a real fight that is not a sparing match, that should never happen
To comment, I must be respectful to Matt and guest. Got it. However, after a week of countless articles trying to clarify this situation these fellows go on to say, “Lat’s say she’s a trans male…” They also fail to provide the most recent quotes from Angela Carini and just generally take this conversation backwards in both factual knowledge and social-cultural progress. Irony?
And wait! They’re supposed to be the conveyors of truth and peace, right?
It was confirmed that "shes" male with xy chromosomes. There's nothing compassionate about ignoring that. Women are pressured to take socially progressive stances all the time, especially in the public sphere.
I stopped following the story because there are too many angles to know what truth is. The father says they were born biological woman with their birth certificate.
In the end I don’t care. It’s the Olympics … it’s boxing … a few months from now no one will remember who won all the events.
Boxing is immoral. It’s contrary to nature to inflict harm on an innocent person.
I don't like boxing at all. I think that hurting another person for no reason (doctors do it to heal) is not human.
But I also think that though women bodies are prepared to give birth and protect life they are not just for that. I find self-defense really practical, sometimes necessary.
I think it is the heart attitude that matters, which is the case for followers of Christ. For example, I spar to be strong for my family and for the spirited competition. I never hate my opponent. However, with professional boxing as an example, the promotion of animosity and hate between the fighters to build a following and ultimately revenue is evil as the fight becomes emotional and hatred and pride ensues.
Something I struggle with is keeping calm when these issues come up
I hiit a boxing bag and practice fighting so that i can defend myself, new york is a rough place.
I completely agree with you, Matt - these sports are immoral.
I love how even Fr. Jason is staring at you like “what on earth is he talking about”. Ya ur wrong about this one Matt.
Very well said.🙏
MARSHMALLOWS ?!?! 😮
My last comment. I attended a four day retreat last year and made a general confession the last day. It was one of the more profound moments in my Catholic journey. I greatly admired the priest who organised the retreat and his advice to me was to turn off the television and especially get off social media. Both are obstacles to salvation. Everything I needed for salvation was in the bible and the writings of the Church Fathers and the Saints. In my heart I know he is correct but it's been a constant struggle.
I struggle with social media, esp. CZcams even though I try to mostly limit myself to catholic sources. Even then you have to be careful and discerning so you don't get lost down various divisional rabbitholes (i.e. TLM vs NO, etc.)..
That’s why i don’t watch the olympics!
Jesus is King! And thats all it matters!
This is why i prefer Professional Wrestling... At least there is co-operation between those competing and a duty to keep eachother safe haha
True, but the outcome is determined before the match.😁
8:38 "we don't know for sure, but let's say this is a transgender male."
What?
Supposedly, the argument is that the Russians released some statement that the tests she took came back and she is either a male or her testosterone levels are too high. If they're lying, which they tend to do, their champion remains undefeated by disqualifying this woman. I am just saying what I remember off the top of my head about this whole controversy.
I'm not quite following....
We're supposed to speak out against trans women beating cis women in sports, right?
So if Imane Khelif is truly a trans man, why is it best for "him" to compete in men's boxing instead?
Apparently there is some confusion whether this boxer was born with an intersex condition (of which there are several), or whether this boxer was born clearly and unambiguously male, but then later identified as transgender. Fr. Jason is saying that, for the sake of discussion, let's assume this is a biological male who identifies as transgender.
Catholic Answers says that all intersex people still have a 'core' sex. In this case, Imane is fundamentally female, and not a "third" sex.
Re: "first wave feminism" comment, I cringed too, then I heard Matt's "eeugh". Nice.
I think boxing is ok, you can take measures to keep it 'safer'. I think pro boxing has issues. Also if you are not used to being punched in the face hard you may panic and cover up when seriously attacked. Or be unable to avoid or block punches well enough to keep yourself out of trouble.
Ideally I think people should have at least some experience with amateur boxing sparring or a similar striking sport. Avoid gyms that make you spar too soon or too hard often.
I don't mind women's amateur boxing because I don't feel I can tell any woman what sport she should take part in even as a Catholic.
This is the one take I don’t fully agree with you on. You are not informed enough on the topic to give a well rounded opinion.
I also have questioned things like boxing and get annoyed at fights in hockey-but is Matt saying women shouldn’t compete in sports? Sports are for everyone and keep people physically and mentally healthy. Not sure if that’s what he was getting at, but that’s how it sounded to me. Also co-ed like recreational sports are fine, but professional yes men and women need to compete separately for it to be fair and safe.
@@joelee624 Definitely sounds like it to me. It's gross.
I agree with your opinion about women boxing, and women boxing men,
But there is an interesting issue and opportunity for thought here, what if Iman is telling the truth, she was Born a woman, haven’t we been trying to convince people that no matter your sexual inclination and unbalanced hormones say, if God created you a woman, you should believe and live it??
So why when here there is a woman who is deferent, and saying “God created me a woman no matter how deferent you see me”
Do we suddenly change our minds and call her a trans??
Finally a woman is saying, she is a woman, and we are the ones preventing her from support in that?
If this is the truth, it would be so sad!
And the more important question is.. why ??
Foootball like Seamus
I totally agree with you!
Matt didn't your wife wrestle in high school? Haven't you talked about wrestling with her? And dislocating her arm?
Look up into Swyer syndrome, (gonadal dysgenesis, XY female type, GDXY).
After watching this yesterday, a terrible commercial popped up. I don't understand CZcams doing such things to a channel like this. That commercial was pornografic in nature. It had to be the work of the devil. We all need a better place to present and watch content.
Otherwise, the show was great.
My reaction is Fr Jason’s reaction at the beginning. Lol 😂
I can't wait for Jesus Christ to come back 🙏 for these people
What if I’m trying to become/I am a great martial artist and inflicting damage is consequential? Also there’s a great capacity of learning self defense in this. That’s good. If two people are agreeing to showcase their skill and talent and are willing to receive damage what’s the wrong? I’m not saying anyone has to like it but wrong? That to me is a stretch. Respectfully.
Sorry to touch base with you here Matt, but I wasn’t sure how else to get a hold of you. My family and I are truly considering moving to Steubenville and being part of that community. Anyway, I could email you a little more detail to find out some information?
My 9yr old, wants to start boxing as a sport, as a Catholic, should I get him to take on another "sport" or encourage him to follow his passion? He's a natural fighter, but doesn't like hurting people, he is very kind natured, but he is also naturally talented... I'm kind of torn, between his talents, and the teachings of the Catholic faith... Presuming he could participate in the sport aspect, but not pushing for him to enter the world of professional boxing, and all the dangerous fruits it beholds... Asking for guidance/discernment I suppose??
I've done many different martial arts and still practice and yeah boxing is tough to rule on since the way it is currently done imo is conducive to, at least minor, concussions, kind of like football. Imo if someone wants to get a good workout, wants to learn combatives, but also doesn't like hurting people, I would recommend looking into the grappling arts like Brazilian jiu jitsu, judo or wrestling. There is usually no striking in these arts, grappling is a great work out, and they are effective self defense styles. Of course accidents still happen in these sports, but, unless you have a terrible opponent/partner, you're not really trying to hurt each other. There are also plenty of tournaments in these arts if competition is something that interests you and your son.
But if the goal is to become well rounded in combatives, adding a year or two of boxing or something similar would be a good addition to the grappling.
I would encourage you to check out your local boxing gym and find out how they train their kids. My whole family participates at an MMA gym that is really awesome. They offer boxing, Brazilian jiu-jitsu and kickboxing. My kids really enjoy Brazilian jiu-jitsu, so that might be something to consider since it is non-striking if that bothers you. However, my kids also do boxing. They do not do competition boxing. They do mostly bag work and drills. They do occasionally spar, but it is in full head gear under coach supervision with anothet kid of similar size and skill. When sparing the coaches work on defensive technique with all the kids and there is no winner, its used as another drill. Again, you have to observe and decide on your comfort level and if you trust the coach. I have to respectfully disagree with Matt about womens boxing. I genuinely enjoy it. Sometimes i need that intense physical outlet to regain my emotional center after a stressful day. It keeps my heart, lungs, and cardio strong. Again, i do not do competition boxing (i am too old and not skilled enough, first of all) and only regularly engage in 2 step sparring or full headgear sparring. I most stick to intense bagwork. There is a place for it.
Wrestling!!!!
fighting dont seem like fun to be.. its barbaric
@@NoNo-ij9ec learning to defend yourself usually based on taking your opponent down without getting hit. carrying around mace with a kick to the balls before they lay hands. making it a sport defeats this purpose, because its no longer about defending yourself. its who can knock a person out cold while taking the punch. i dont mind skateboarding, but you wont catch me doing any tricks. lol =P
@@NoNo-ij9ec lol. i understand. these days its a must. something i lack is knowing how to carry. would love to have one teach me.
Too much rambling, try more dialogue
Be slow to speak, and first to hear, is deafening...
They used to test them for doping, they should also test them also for chromosomes nowadays🤔
Check out Capturing Christianity video posted today on this persons gender - worth your time if this topic is of interest.
Wasn't it so that the IOC allowed that weirdo to compete and not the boxing regulatory body?
Also the goal is not to inflict the most pain, the goal is to win. What if feeding your family is a motivator? The average boxer I’m pretty sure makes well under $50k a year, so money is not there enough. Body is a temple right? Don’t you want to make sure your temple is capable taking heavy blows if the time comes? What about fighters who get famous and use their platforms to proclaim Christ as king after a win? I don’t think your issue is with boxing. I think you have an issue with senseless violence and have been lead to believe that boxing is senseless when that is rarely the case. We have too rich of a history of great Catholic fighters for you to not be proud of them. We are a religion, a church, of warriors. Me personally, I am very proud of that.
Professional boxing is unnecessary violence and it typically just feeds vices in the minds of its viewers.
@@adamj2683 I’m sorry but I firmly disagree and forgive me for saying so but I believe you to be incorrect in that assessment. It has the potential for what you’ve said but that is not its purpose.
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There's nothing wrong with boxing
Glad I'm
Not you
This seems very cruel to me. This woman just suffered a great injustice, lost her dream of being an olympic champion by being beaten up by a dude who obviously should never had been allowed to compete in women's sports and then you're saying she shouldnt even have been there in the first place. You don't have the authority to say that. Layman should stop trying to pontificate.
I totally agree, boxing is awful, not an sport it is like in the romans did .. is as awful as bullfighting!!
Wuss.
MMA is totally wrong. Common sense.
Its not
Boxing is more dangerous than mma though. Just because they cut often with the smaller gloves does not make it wrong. There's a referee and rules. I can't be bothered with all the hype and drama though... boring
I'm starting to not like this channel...so judgemental 🫤
wdym? they are just giving their opinion you are allowed to disagree
Compared to what? Believing in nothing? They’re just talking and disagreeing with each other and neither is making a well thought out case. A waste of time but we knew that from the title.