Scott Addict eRide: An ebike that doesn't scream "e"
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2020
- For this week's "Shoddy video" I have a review for you. One where I'm guessing some of the more grumpily readers amongst us may want to be sitting down and playing some soothing music. As I'm about to present to you a new e-road bike, and we know how some people react to that kind of thing!
- Sport
I’m on an entry level Orbea Gain D40 because is is at a price that I can justify for leisure cycling. The assist is practical and keeps me honest. I can keep up on the flats with no assist above 25kph as the bike is less than 12kg, I can get home if I misjudge the battery life without dying. I live in the Wicklow Mountains in Ireland and couldn’t enjoy riding a standard bike that I could afford. I’m 70 and now doing 50-70k rides every second day. I’m in love with cycling and the new Orbea with the same x35 system as the Scott. If I could afford the carbon version I doubt it would improve my experience but would reduce my bank balance. I’d be happy with an ‘e’ on my back to let the fools who think I can go up 16% hills at 20kph know that I’m assisted. I only ever did this once on my own and now I ride with younger fitter friends, they want me to be the tow bike on hills and against wind (not likely). I sit happily with ‘low assist’ on at the max speed they can achieve unassisted in adverse conditions and on the steep climbs and we all get along just fine. My confidence has increased and the assist stays off until I really need it and when I do my confidence soars and I enjoy myself more. If everyone had an e-bike for leisure cycling, I might not feel the same way but I doubt that will ever happen. If you have the urge to rekindle your love of cycling at an older age or after a medical issue this might be your chance. Be careful though as I am pushing harder and harder as I get fitter - be sure you are getting good medical advice and wear a heart monitor, the assist won’t do it for you, you still have to pedal.............
Wicklow hills..plenty of bodies up there.
Can we just take a min to appreciate that Scott makes most beautiful bikes to grace this earth. 👏👏❤️❤️
Wilier...
Don’t exaggerate. Trek is the best. Nobody makes paint jobs like them.
Bianchi..
Anything that gets more people on two wheels is a good thing in my book.
Fully agree. I was out hiking a few weeks back and spotted a couple who I'm guessing from their appearance weren't used to hitting the gravel trails. But they were on hired eMTB bikes and loving it. You just know they would have gone to work that monday and chatted about their experience over the water cooler with mates.'d be back. You just knew from their smiles they Great stuff _ dave
not true. this bike does is not an alternative for a car.It is a true fakebike
@@sylvainbernaers Just take a long off a short pier mate, in a good pair of hiking boots If you wish.
@@sylvainbernaers Who ever suggested that this is a substitute for a car?
I just bought a road e-bike which I'm really enjoying - what has surprised me is that I seem to be getting a better workout than on my last non-e bike - my average heart rate on a 2 hour ride I just did on the e-bike was about 10bpm faster than on the old bike. I think this is because I didn't kill myself on the two big hills on the route so I had more energy for the rest of the ride (my heart rate was still around 145 bpm on the hills so I can vouch that you are still working even on the hills!)
This is what the inexperienced cyclists don’t understand: you are working out, it’s not a free ride, but the nice thing is you aren’t killing yourself. If you look at how the pro cycling coaches are pushing polarised training (majority z2), An ebike is actually ideal for getting the training in with a far less requirement for recovery between rides.
Most of the time I ride alone with my electric bike and I rediscover the pleasure of climbing the hills that I had to avoid with my classic bike because my age does not allow me any more or so I was content with flat roads on short trips without funny. Rest assured, I do not race with anyone and I have never had bad thoughts from other cyclists on the contrary they ask me about this bike, thinking they might use it one day. day in a few years. That said, the Scott Addict eRide is too expensive for my wallet and its motor lacks 40Nm torque, it's half the Giant eRoad I use which weighs 19.7kg but is much more affordable. Cycling should remain fun for everyone at all ages, regardless of the model.
Absolutely right - I'm climbing hills I had been avoiding. Over the last three years or so I became very frustrated with searching for flat routes all the time, so I finally decided, at the age of 90, that a bit of assistance would not come amiss. A proper e-road bike was beyond my means, but being a keen roadie, none of the bottom end e-bikes appealed, weight or appearance wise, so I bought a moderately priced friction drive e-assist kit which has enabled me to retain my present road bike. It is virtually unchanged in appearance, and the kit is so light that the all up weight, bike and kit, is only 13.5kg. Although not as refined as a hub motor, having only one power level, it performs more than adequately with judicious use of the gears. When riding without power - the bulk of the time - there is negligible resistance from the motor, so the overall effect is very similar, it seems, to the Mahle system. I would thoroughly recommend an e-bike to anyone who, through age, or maybe some disability, is beginning to feel their activities are being limited - it will give them a new lease of life.
Great review Dave. Convincing and authentic.
Thanks- Dave
My wife has one. We (note we) love it. I train at roughly 20mph here in the Yorkshire Dales. It means we can train together and both get a good workout. The 16mph limit is ideal as it means it assists when going uphill, but she has to jump on my wheel on the flat and downhills. “Pay attention Mrs Smales or you’ll get dropped!”
Ordered for February delivery 👍Nice review, Cheers.
Hope you enjoy it! - Dave
In Canada e-bike have a 32 km/hr high range btw how much does it cost
Just got one (The 105/Ultegra mix) but the motor almost never engages since I live in Europe and ride faster than 25 km/h, but it's good to know if that killer headwind kicks in I will still be able to make it home and I have no excuses for not riding like I used to (Too windy etc)... 😁
Having seen the advert for it featuring 'Mr Le Mans' Tom Kristensen - then if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
Have never understood the dislike for them......
does it have regen breaking? It seems to me that's the main advantage to running a hub motor as opposed to the bottom bracket motor
Regen braking isn't worth the weight the components add..
how do you hook up the bike to your garmin ? i just have the bike and i love it ! this is ideal for a country like switzerland !
I'd advise you checking with Scott. It's been a while since I used it and to be honest it's slipped my mind - Dave
I am always very sceptical about the claimed range on these bikes. People say things like 'I get 100 miles range' when what they actually mean is that they did a 100 mile ride using the battery only a part of the time, and so had some charge left. A 208 wh battery is unlikely to give more than 50km/30miles if used continuously, less if very hilly. It is a bit misleading, to say the least.
About 15 miles on full and it's gone...but it's a fun 15😊
That bike is rad 😎👍
Gotta say I like it - dave
I'm coming back from an injury and would love one of these - the problem is once I get back to me it would be redundant. I'd love to try one.
I have an autoimmune disease and it is brutal on my body. I have came to the realization that eventually I will have to go to an e-bike if I want to keep riding. I definitely like that idea better than not being able to ride at all.
Mate, no shame in an ebike at all. I'd advise testing a few. Once you play on one you'll realize that they are superb for keeping fit, and far from a "motorbike" as many think. You'll love it, trust me - Dave
@@VeloVeloVeloTV go for a walk in the forest: do not engage in fake pseudo sport
@@sylvainbernaers surely have better things to do ffs.
@@sylvainbernaers You obviously don't like e-bikes, and you are also too thick, apparently, to understand their benefit to some people, so why do you even bother to look at these videos?
Love the look of it... Pricey although!
It is a hill of money but a lot less than a Creo S-Works 😳
E-bikes are great, so long as people are out on bikes what difference does it make
I fully agree with you. More cyclist on normal or ebikes out on the road the better -dave
just burn electricity??? for what???? buy a pair of good walkingboots
Im a Specialized Turbo Creo SL owner...but what a nice Scott!
The creo looks like an ebike though, hub vs crank motors, There are merits to both. But if you want a stealthy look, the creo is not the way to go.
Buen video y gran explicación ya poseo una scott ebike btt y me planteo una de carretera esto me ayuda mucho , me suscribo amigo gracias gracias
Is that the new MET Rivale on one's bonce?
It sure is, and they'll be a Brew Review coming shortly about it - dave
I think you are missing the point here, ebikes are just fun! They build confidence and enjoyment of what can be considered a daunting and elitist sport...and yes you can get fit on an Ebike. I have spent most of my life loving this sport and collecting many bikes along the way, my electric bike is now one of my favourites.
This e-ride comes with a higher seated position compared to the Addict RC bikes, due to the higher stack, shorter reach and higher head tube. For that reason I'll have to pass on this model, as I want a bike that looks and feels like a performance model, not an older rider model.
I'm ok with the price tho since the model with Ultegra Di2 is almost the same as the non-electric Addict. Maybe the non-electric is expensive ?
how many Watts does the motor give you? certainly some extra watts will be needed to cancel out the weight premium, but what are talking about here... 200 W, 300 W from the motor?
The Mahle motor provides 250w and 40mn of torque
40nm is just over half of what the MTB ebikes are pushing on 36v / 250w motors. Road/smooth surfaces and half the bike weight means less work on average. What concerns me is that without the spare bottle cage battery, I doubt you are going to even get 2hrs endurance on this bike (50-60km, 900-1000m climbing)
@@neilk22 The stated range is inflated in my opinion. A 208wh battery is unlikely to give you more than about 50k, less if hilly.
Can you take off the speed limitation ?
Not that I'm aware of but I'm sure someone who knows how to hack these things could. But I guess that would cause all sorts of problems with motor and battery.-Dave
@Wooly Chewbakker Thanks for your opinion. My point of view is that an e-bike is useless for me if it is limited to 32km/h - apart from mocking others in uphills. By the time I posted my question 9 months ago, I believe a ton of users have hacked their e-bike successfully.
That cover around button is already cracked... Neither a great quality control nor materials..
The bike is sweet the problem is most dealers do NOT have the dongle that will allow them to read or fix e motor faults.
I want one cos i need help hauling my enourmous bollocks over the Wicklow hills.
I like it. I like e-bikes with smallish batteries. That way you can be fast on a flat also. But I don't like Dura-Ace. Too expensive 🤪 I would like a Shimano 105 e-bike for 3000 EUR. Why is that so impossible?
this has nothing to do with sport my friend. why are people obese you thinK????
Check out Orbea Gain 👏
This would be great for my girlfriend who is just getting started. She can keep up with me on long hilly rides.
And in the woods..😊
I like these a lot. Just cost too much. Will wait for the +2 or +3 generation when they're half the prixe
Trickle down technology, we've got to love it - Dave
How's that working for ya? :) Jeez, they are so expensive after the new Mahle motor came out..
6:23 the button cover cracked
No, it's manufactured that way. I'm guessing so that it's easy to install. I've seen the same on all bikes that use the mahle motors - Dave
Mine cracked too. Lights stopped working. Getting the Garmin Ebike Remote. Heard go reviews about it, so I don't have to use the button.
Works well but bowl is really shallow.
commuter without excessive sweating at destination
This is definitely not a commuter, you’re going to sweat a bit on this setup.
@@neilk22 prolly true. i sweat putting on all my gear
For me is better the supersix evo neo 1, also being cheaper components are equeal or better, and frame in supersix ios very nice, I can see many details in this that are lacking.... painting, geometry is not the same as the normal addict, the port cover can be lost, and also it's not a good thing to see a crack in power button ... not very well cared demo bike.
US road e-bikes are restricted to 28 mph
That's faster than here in Europe, it's 25kmph- Dave
For a guy like me with hart issues E-bikes is the answer, I simply can not ride a bike without help.
100% agree. I was taken to pieces a few years back when I mentioned as such in my first review of an e-road bike. The Pinarello Nytro. E-road bikes are awesome. Hope you enjoy yours. - Dave
@@VeloVeloVeloTV I dont have any yet just looking for a good bike.
A lot more cheaper bikes better than this. And lightweight also. Seems your paying an extra 1200 for the brand.
Examples? Dura ace di 2 with carbon wheels and a very slick integrated stealthy look? I doubt it. I agree there are loads of mahle powered chinese brands making the rounds, but they won’t look or feel like this.
I get ebikes as ways to get more people cycling..but I don't get super high end e- road bikes. Who is the intended audience exactly? Sad old dads who wish they were faster and have 7-10k to burn?
Uhh. Yup. Obviously. Nice job stating an (unobjectionable) truism. The money Scott makes goes toward making a better bike for you and me, and some goes in their pocket. Sounds about right to me.
@@tombolo22 I'm not sure Scott needs the money from ebikes to be able to R&D better non-ebikes. My question isn't what will Scott do with the money, anyway. It's who is the audience for an expensive e road bike? I genuinely do not get it.
@@dabrahamturner It's exactly what you said, without the unfortunate adjectives and verbs. (Edited-out adjectives and verbs in bold): "(SAD) old dads who wish they were faster and have 7-10k (TO BURN)."
I would phrase it thus: "Older baby boomers who miss the thrill of fast group rides but still have the technical acumen to handle higher speeds, and who are fortunate to possess enough well-earned financial and physical capital to invest in their life-long love affair with cycling."
@书中自有黄金屋 that's written with a maximalism of a 12 year old.
I own a very expensive ebike and I'm old enough to afford it, because this is by far the most fun I've had on trails in the last decade. I also use it for commuting, and I'd like to see you commute by bicycle in large city before you get smart. If you don't get it, it doesn't mean that it doesn't makes sense. It means that your limited experience does not allow for alternative perspective. Expand your mind.
@书中自有黄金屋 ok, it's incorrect. This bicycle is propelled by pedals, like all pedaltec bicycles. The motor provides varying levels of assistance and can be switched off completely. Hence this is a bicycle according to the definition you've provided.
I can assure you that only a tiny proportion of people riding road bicycles in AU race them, because having fun is the name of the game, and racing is hard isn't fun for most people.
They make it look good, by not making an accent on it being an ebike, and there is nothing wrong with that. The truth is that it would still be 10k an hour slower than most good riders on a race bike, and it could only offend a purist that doesn't have much in terms of cash or fitness.
25km/h like wtf
Your bike store can switch it to 20mph (32kmh), but expect a significant reduction in battery endurance.
Is soo gay..😂
I think ebikes make sense in MTB, but for road, the logic falls away exponentially. I get that people who are suffering from chronic illness or disability, or a simple lack of fitness might benefit....but let's be honest, if you fall into that category, it's not just about the power output or endurance (which is solved with pedal assist) there's probably also the topic of flexibility and your physical capability to actually get in position on an aggressive road race bike.
You couldn’t be more wrong
You are so mistaken - it all depends on individual circumstances. I am still riding my road bike, but for the last three years or so, have been obliged more and more to seek out flat routes because the hills were becoming too tough. These routes became very repetetive and boring, so, having recently hit 90, I decided that maybe some assistance might not be a bad idea. Proper e-road bikes being financially out of the question, I went for a lightweight 250W friction drive e-kit. This enabled me to retain my present road bike barely changed in appearance, and with the total weight increased to only 13.5kg I have a reasonably close equivalent to an e-roadie at a fraction of the cost. Probably not quite as refined, with possibly a bit less range, but it actually works extremely well, and is used pretty well exclusively for hill and headwind assistance. This has enabled me to extend my rides and visit again areas I have been avoiding - so in my case it has proved a boon, and I can assure you that it will be so to many in differing circumstances.
8:54 R. I. P ENGLISH 😂
Hub base? Lol. That’s already like at least 10 year old technology at this point. Way behind the market. Mid drive or nothing.
ebike with a duraace ? who ever buy that option damn.. what a waste of money..
E-bikes are the spawn of Satan. My wife's got one though and it's perfect for letting her get out cycling with me.
Agreed! The only way to get out on the road with the miss without getting in a fight! Bless the EBike😇
@@nankowassenaar500 Ah, but much like the slip of the tongue while on the tandem, it could be a problem getting the required cool off separation distance
it is still a sort of fake. it is proposterous to think you do something of sport
@@GeekonaBike a tandem is real. an e bike is for the ultimate loser
@@sylvainbernaers Don't be daft! Motorcycling isn't fake and it's definitely a sport.
Someone needs a spell checker, those spelling mistakes really look awful.