The better side of Stelvio on a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S [RAW Onboard]
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Ever since I uploaded videos with the Multistrada and the big GS people told me that I need to ride the big KTMs as well. Because apparently they are the sportiest travel enduro options you can get. That of course made me extra curious. And in this RAW here you're basically witnessing me making the following realization: those people were right. Stelvio downhill were my first real twisties during my 2018 September Italia tour. It's where I for the first time could truly feel how capable the Super Adventure S actually is. Very capable of course. And it gets better the quicker you go. Which I didn't really do because I can't afford to crash a 20K € bike ;)
Its suspension setup is quite stiff. It provides amazing stability. Even if you're throwing the bike around like a madman you won't feel any wobbles. This in combination with the mighty engine making 160 horses and 140Nm of torque will leave a big smile on your face when you want to travel just a little faster. Plus it's a bit lighter than most of its competitors. It handles 100% predictably and without any big effort. The quickshifter works flawlessly. If it did not it always was my own fault (=pressing the lever sloppily). And the brakes work spot-on as well. Not overly aggressive and still mighty powerful. What a bike!!
Is there anything I didn't like? Well. Obviously the sportiness has minor drawbacks. On the comfort side of things. Although the engine behaves properly and this KTM does cruise mode well too it is not as comfortable as the GS for instance. The SA has you seated very high up, close to the bars. You're sitting on top of the bike rather than inside it. Typical of KTM. Which feels amazing when you want to go fast. But I don't really appreciate that during the boring and straight bits which unfortunately are part of every big bike tour. And even if the seating positions on the other travel enduros are more comfortable they'll still allow you to go super fast too. Personally I simply have to put blind faith in suspension and tires on every one of these bikes anyway. Their long suspension travels makes it impossible for me to decipher any feedback from the bike. No matter if it's the GS, Multistrada, Super Adventure, Tiger, or V-Srom. In the end my conclusion was the following: I'd take the KTM over any other travel enduro if I went riding for 3 days in a row or less. 3 days plus and I'd rather take any other model. Preferably the GS because it offers the best comfort.
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bike: 2018 KTM Super Adventure S
completely stock
Engine and Suspension were set to Sport mode
tires: Pirelli Scorpion Trail II
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camera: amzn.to/2kckJkE
ND filter for heavy motion blur: amzn.to/2JXI9ES
(used ND8 here)
sound recorder: amzn.to/2bnozBw
(see the sound-recording tutorial here:
• HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR MO... )
editing: Adobe Premiere Pro CC
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disclaimer: I used all my HTML5 coding skills to hack the bike's ECU in order for the speedometer to show random numbers instead of my actual velocity.
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![THOSE CRAZY ITALIANS! (Stelvio pass) [RAW Onboard]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2eDc5ZU8zRA/mqdefault.jpg)
Still loving your riding style (maybe even more with the more safety-minded approach) and the video quality/camera positioning is still unrivaled on CZcams. :)
thanks man!
loved the take on clickbait motovloggers at 5:21. Keep it up, loving your runs
;)
Finally I found my way back onto some superfine Austrian machinery! Enjoy the cruise down the magnificent Southwestern side of the legendary Stelvio pass!
Soweit ich den Stelvio kenne bist du die westliche "western" Seite runter gefahren nicht die östliche "eastern". ;)
Ich bin nur die östliche Seite hoch und sind dann da wo dein Video anfängt in die Schweiz abgebogen und dann Richtung Reschen Stausee.
vollkommen richtig, Ost mit West verwechselt, danke für den Hinweis!
Record vídeo APRILLIA.
Like 493 Brasil, Brasil.
Indian machinery ...
Schaaf, I read your discription to this video, and I gotta tell you: Honda VFR1200XD Crosstourer is better than BMW R1200GS. Sure Honda is not as fancy as BMW, and doesn't have as much bells and whistles. But Crosstourer is faster than the GS, comfier than the GS, many times more reliable than GS, and also cheaper. Better bike it is. Especially with the optional DCT gearbox, which is absolutely great!
Cheers.
Earned a subscriber here. Beautiful scenery, good footage, but most importantly to me, a good example of having fun while still riding safely. Exactly as I would do it - pushing the bike when the visibility and roads/space permit, and being respectful, slow, and careful at any and all points where there may be higher concentrations of people, lack of visibility, etc. Respect
thanks a lot, I appreciate it. Although it took some time for me to develop this somewhat responsible pace. I used t be quite wild.
Omg I hope that someday I figure out my life and end up going somewhere there to ride with friends.
good luck!
5:07 Shots fired!
fuck yeah!
No survivors
(unfortunately he didn't) in the corner. I haven't laughed so damn hard the whole month.
Mmmmmhhh... So eine geile Landschaft. Da wird die Vorfreude auf den A2 und meine Transalp jedesmal, wenn ich ein RAWtalia anschaue, noch größer 😁.
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sehr gut!! Danke, Niclas!
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Excellent choice, Marco!! Mille grazie!
Dem Schaaf seine sind einfach die leiwandsten Mopedvideos. Kein Gelaber, kein Schnickschnack, geiler Sound und tolle Aufnahmen. Bitte mehr denn es wird langsam frisch (heute 10° in Wildalpen ;) ). Aja ich war heuer auch am Stelvio (first time) aber viel mehr hat mir zum Beispiel die Strecke zum Mangart gefallen.
Mangart ist sowas von genial!! Danke dir!
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thanks for all the future touring tips :D And thanks for the comment!
For me there's nothing better than to do the N260 and finish it of with some desert(ish) riding in the Bardenas Reales on my trusty 1100GS (all in Spain). Also many of the small roads connecting the N260 are little treasures by themselves and worth a trip. These roads are maintained by the autonomous communities and can be recognized by the road number being preceded by a letter indicating the community.
Dem Video ist einfach nur purer Fahrspaß zu entnehmen.
😍
freut mich!!
One of the best passes of Europe. I love it. I have done it two times only downhill. My next target to do it the other way around.
Nice video!
thanks Viktor!
Meine absoluter Lieblingspass ist der Mendelpass.
Sag mal beim zurückschalten hört es sich so an als würde das Hinterrad kurz stehen bleiben ist das so?
nicht wirklich, es dreht sich nur ein wenig langsamer und scheinbar reicht das schon für das kurze Quietschen. Passiert, weil ich fast nur die Hinterradbremse verwende und beim Runterschalten vor den Kehren meist auf dem Bremshebel draufsteh
thanks for the feedback on the bike! im in the market for a travel adventure bike and am in a struggle between which bike i think i would like the most. still some things id like to look into but this helped for sure. keep up the great vids. always enjoy them
Servus Schaaf! Ich fahre seit März 2018 auch eine KTM 1290 SAS. Ich teile deine Einschätzung, dass die BMW GS komfortabler und gediegener ist, aber die KTM spürbar kräftiger und schneller. Ich fahre solche Straßen wie Stelvio allerdings im Modus Street, und wenn die Straße aus brüchigen Aspahlt mit Wellen besteht auch Comfort. Das ist nicht nur komfortabler, sondern im Sinne von zuverlässigem Kontakt Rad => Straße auch sicherer. Den Modus Sport verwende ich nur auf Rennstrecke oder sehr glatter Autobahn/Bundestraße bei höherem Tempo. Deshalb ist für mich der Komfort-Unterschied zur GS zumindest etwas geringer als wenn man über jede Rüttelpiste im Sportmodus hoppelt.
Danke für dein Feedback. Ich kann dir aber versichern, dass der Kontakt Reifen -> Straße im Sport-Modus der gleiche ist. Sonst hätte KTM da ordentlich was verbockt ;)
It's awesome!!! I've tried to pass Stelvio this May, but the road was closed at an altitude of ≈ 2000 meters. Stelvio is one of the most beautiful mountain passes I've ever seen in Europe. Thanks for the video!)
thanks for the comment!
sounds amazing! Thanks man!
Exciting.... gorgeous landscapes and spirit riding as only you know how to show us buddy!!
So glad to watch you having fun and delight us with this videos!!
Thank's for that Shaaf.. Hell yeah \m/
thanks for the comment mate!
Been following you from the beginning then left for a bit as you were going a bit too crazy for my taste. But man your new riding pace is just perfect I subconsciously make the move with my left foot at same time as you change gear, i squeeze the right lever at the same time, I feel like I'm riding the bike.
my pace varies in the different KTM RAWs but for sure I'm not able to ride my old pace any longer
thank you for this nice ride in the mountains with the 1290!
thank you for the comment!
Tolle Fahrt, nebenbei hat mir die Blipperfunktion samt der damit verbundenen Akkustik sehr gut gefallen, das Video war jedenfalls eine Inspiration - nicht auf der letzten Rille gefahren, in den Tunnels das Tempo rausgenommen - meine neue 1290 SAS darf ich kommenden Freitag holen, nach meinem heftigen Frontalcrash werd ich es für heuer sein lassen, im kommenden Jahr gehts aber wieder voll los.
gut, dass du noch unter uns weilst! Viel Spaß mit der SAS im kommenden Jahr!
Summer just got so much further away...
Schnell und eine top Linienwahl👍
Danke, Mario
I really like passo del bocco. Kinda away from me (~40kms) and it doesn't have the best tarmac or turns...but it connects to a lot of other great roads/passi and i have good memories of it.
A schaaf approved road tho can be passo del bracco, but i did it only a few times
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freut mich sehr! Danke für den Kommentar!!
5:12 For that comment alone you earned a subscriber.
Welcome
Awesome road and bike! So glad to see you ride like this! Keep safe man! 🤙
thanks mate
...and
Hallo Schaaf, sind Sie schon mal überholt worden Berg auf / runter 😉 Schön alles so anzusehen ⚡️
If you ever ride in north-east Italy near the border of Austria, you should check the tight twisties from Mauthen (Austria) across the border to Timau (Italy).
thanks for the suggestion!
Sehr guter Fahrstil, tolle Landschaft und ein brachiales Moped. Bin die 1290 SAS vor einem Jahr probegefahren und hab mich direkt verliebt. Sprengt aber leider meine Haushaltskasse. Ride safe :)
meine auch ;) Danke dir!
God be with you buddy !
Thanks
Quien cojones le puede dar dislike a un video como este? buenos paisajes, una moto, un piloto y un sonido limpio de motor en funcionamiento. Ahí va mi like amigo.
Muchas gracias
wow man, i mean you’re just awesome 🤷🏼♂️ when i watch your videos i feel like i do if i was to watch a great guitar player or artist or footballer or whatever so when you are sure you are just watching nothing more than pure natural talent. amazing. an im right there on your shouldeer!!! rock on baby ✌️
thanks a lot Jon!
Great bike, great riding skills, great road! I
thank you very much!!!
schön das du wieder auf der Straße unterwegs bist. ich mag deine raw videos.
danke, Rotty!
Hi your KTM video just popped up on my feed 😊👍🏻 just read you description, I have a SAS too and love it so much even more than my 1260s Multi... ok maybe not the noise as I have full Termi 😍 but honestly with the Ergo seat on it she is sooooo comfy. I have done 17k Miles in a year 😱 and 9k Miles on the 1260s. I have just changed the sprockets and was sent 42T rear instead of the standard 46T man alive it is even quicker... and pulls so so hard!!! I’m about to have her Dyno-ed so will let you know the results 😊👍🏻 anyway keep up the great work... I enjoy listening to the bikes on your videos rather than some guy talking 💩
Thanks Lee!
el brutalo haut vor jeder Kehre den ersten Gang rein, als ob es kein Morgen gäbe.... thanks god for Anti-Hopping and MSR ;-) Cool Video! Ride safe my friend 👍
jo, macht mir einfach mehr Spaß so! Danke dir!!
0:29 what was that sound? it sorta sounds like a turbo blowoff but I can't imagine that would be it, maybe tire squeel?
Videoqualität TOP
Landschaft TOP
Fahrstil TOP
Unterhaltungsfaktor TOP
alles TOP, echt angenehm zum anschaun
Haha musste echt schmunzeln bei dem Überholmanöver mit der Kritik an die Motovlogger, absolut richtig und schön ironisch dargestellt xD Immer schön ruhig bleiben, aufregen kann man sich dann wenn einer wirklich sch**** baut :)
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Musik Top!
At 5:21 is it the sound of rear wheel locking up while downshifting?
Hi schaaf you still got the little Honda.
yes
i liked the timmelsjoch (if that is how you spell it). but the stelvio was hard on my arms as a passenger. the accelerating and hard braking 88 times was impressive
yea, Timmelsjoch! Great one too!
I've got the 1290 SAR - what a bike! The 21 Inch front wheel makes it a little heavier tipping in but with countersteering and leaning on the inside peg not too bad. Just love the power and quick shifter. After all the bikes I've owned, this is the one I've nearly lost my license on, but I love it :)
understandable :D
This is high on the bucket list, i hope to be doing this soon. I
good luck!!! Mille grazie!
Ich freue mich schon sehr auf das Video GS / KTM
wird noch ne weile dauern!
Where is that?
Italy.
You ask for my favourite roads and passes, Stelvio was great and I enjoyed it.
one road I REALLY enjoyed in Austria this summer that wasnt planned, we just came across it one day was.
Imst in Austria along the L246 towards Stanzac, then take a right towards Berwang.
don't know that one but it looks great on Google Maps :D
Nice video! Totally agree, this is the best side of Stelvio. The road to Trafoi is amazing by the glacier but it's quiet bored because of the 44 "tornante". This side is too much pretty!!
indeed!
Excellent riding, Lovely bike & absolutely breath taking roads/scenery. Thanks & Enjoy!
thanks for commenting!
Beautiful, just beautiful! I hope you filmed many videos, something like 20 of them! :D Haha, good job Schaaf, as always!
thanks man! I guess 6-8
Nice video mate. I have the 1290 GT and love it. Keep on posting your videos please. You ride at a good speed.
thanks Stephen!!
Great video! I
thanks a lot Kiddo!! I'll write those down, one day I'll make my way back to Mallorca I sure hope :)
As always great drive! Beautiful roads and landscapes.
My favorite mountain road is "Aursjøvegen", north-western Norway. A must for adventure-bike riders visiting these parts of the country.
thanks a lot man!
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺. I’m shipping my BMW S1000XR from Sydney to London in April 2019. Stelvio will be on my bucket list, but on a Monday ! 😂
fantastic plan!
Your channel is such a pleasure to watch! 😍
Thank you so much!
Love the way you ride
Thanks
To say that I envy you is an understatement xD. GREAT upload as always!!
thanks man :)
So peaceful bro. Wow. Awesome bike bro., and if can also visit too
-Salinas Grandes, Jujuy, Argentina
-Ushuaia to Río Grande, Tierra del Fuego, Argentina
thanks Javier!
I love this no BS motor-vlogging I
thanks a lot Calvin!
You should check out Lepșa and Transalpina in România. 😁
I love Lepșa the most because it has 50km of amazing twisties in the forest, very grippy tarmac.
sounds awesome!
Try out the Passo Gavia , just the other side of Bormio, ans Passo Giau a few kms south west of Cortina D' Ampezzo Italy
Been there many times
Thanks for the vid ... I hope to ride the Alps one day. I
thanks a lot Mark!!
nice road man and nice camera. angle!I have not been there but here in Greece you can find these curves because of the mountains almost everywhere.Still the quality of the tarmac there must be top!
it is! Thanks John!
Great video as usual 👍. Seriously considering the 1290 as my next bike.
surely no mistake
Look up The Devil's Highway in Arizona USA. Used to be called RT 666 it's now RT 191. You have almost 70 miles or so of turns. You will spend most of the time in 2nd or 3rd gear. It's a good workout! Amazing scenery as well. Then check out The Million Dollar Highway in Colorado USA. Lots of turns and amazing views. I just bought the KTM 1290 SAS... Loving it! How did you enjoy your time on it?
I loved most of my time on the SAS!
To me this will be HOW HEAVEN SHOULD LOOK!
Indeed
thanks a lot Jabba!!
Great video, really enjoyed the ride !!
In which direction of the Stelvio was the ride ?
Motorcycling POV brilliance.
Love the vids, just found your channel, seen only 2 so far (subed & notify). You got skills, with safe riding in mind...... knowing when and where to pickup the PACE. Do track days? Keep the vids come.
Hello and welcome Bob! Thanks for the nice words! Nope, I don't do trackdays because I can't afford those but I'm super motivated to get some track time in next year!!
Great video! Awesome road and bike! Am so tempted to change my GSA and buy one of these!
thanks Scott!
I changed from a GSA to a 1290 SAS - good move!
I went down this side of Stelvio on a sunday morning on virtually empty roads at a fairly decent pace in my MX5 and that still took about 10 minutes longer than you on a KTM, it's amazing how fast motorcycles can get down these roads. (okay you may be "a bit" faster than most riders, but still). Maybe I should just stick to cars, I think I'd kill myself on a bike XD
PS. Umbrail pass is my favourite I think...it's definitely closely followed by Col de la Croix-de-Fer/Col du Glandon. There are just so many good roads I loved my drive across. I
thanks a lot for sharing mate :)
Danke fürs Fernweh 😉. 👍🏻 Video
gern geschehen ;)
For me the most beautiful mountain pass is Transalpina road in Romania.
amazing road indeed!
So beautiful... I like Alps, good thing I don't live too far from Austria. :-) Also, bonus points for your buddy having a Tiger 800.
yea, Tiger rules!!
Nice to see someone still using lg g5 like me xD
thehehe ;)
Hi Schaaf, one of my favorite mountain is Transfagarasan - Romania. You must check it! I fell in love in Italy - Last year I was there and I did Amalfi coast and Campo Imperatore in Umbria. This year I'm organizing a trip to Grossglockner, Austria and Stelvio, Italy. I hope to be unforgettable. I will start the trip from Bulgaria at the end of July. If you have any impressions of other nearby roads, please share it...I will be grateful. Thanks and greetings from Bulgarian riders! :)
One day I will make my way down to the Transfagarasan for sure
Dude. You are so lucky. I would LOVE to do something like this!
I was lucky to be born in a so called first world country. But the rest was more or less hard work :)
Like the thorough description 👍
thanks
Question....how do you turn off the Engine? by Emergency switch or the grey race on button below....
Kill Switch
Awesome! I
MILLE GRAZIE, Jonas!!
Top Class ride.
To me the best ADV model.
Waiting for more.
Cheers.
thanks man! A LOT more 1290 SA wideos will come :)
I really enjoyed your ride, thanks. I've been over Stelvio in both directions on rented motorcycles, it brought back pleasant memories. Like others, I like your riding style. Except at 13:17 where you shared an oncoming cyclist's lane while overtaking a car. As a cyclist I don't enjoy that.
IanB
ok
Absolutely spanktastic that me old mate. I had a slash in that car park at 4.24, just so you know. I were absolutely burstin 😆
Hello, congratulations, for the guide that as usual is beautiful fluid and fast. I like the bike.
thanks man
Have an 1190, great bike too. Wonder how much stiffer it is because I like my 1190 a bit stiffer...
cool!!! Unfortunately I can't tell!
What kind of camera do you have?
My favorite road is the "col du turini" in the south of France. The perfect road is "La bollene vesubie" to " camp d'argent"
awesome, unfortunately I've never been to France with the bike so far
Great street, great machine, great pilot 👍
thanks Manuel!
By going so fast during the downhill isn't it a little dangerous for overheating the brakes?
I'm actually not going fast and you actually could go a lot quicker without overheating the brakes on this kind of bike
Love your video’s!!
Thanks Jason
Just what I needed to spice up my Sunday evening. Must have been amazing driving these fantastic roads on such a bike! I
thanks Kevin !!!
You‘ve got some skills man! Nice video👍🏻
thank you!
I love these videos, and your tour videos, but mostly? I
thanks a lot Fred!!
Great Schaaf stuff! I love Namlostal.
great road! Thanks!
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Thanks a lot
It sounds like there is a little tyre squeak many times you gear down with the quick shifter. Am I hearing correctly?
yes! It's because I'm only using the rear brake and each time I hit the downshift for a short moment the rear spins slower than the front and makes the tire squeak
My favorite mountain road would be the descent on the Italian side of the timmelsjoch, but that might change when I try out the Stelvio ;)
I think Timmelsjoch wins :D
I can hear rear tire skidding sometimes on downshift. Does this one have motor slip regulation?
Yes
The nearest mountain road to my house is Mareneve - Piano Provenzana in Sicily. Your video are the best :D
awesome!! Thanks Vincenzo!