What Happens When A Narcissist Meets A Dark Empath
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- There are a lot of similar qualities between narcissists and dark empaths, but they are not the same. People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder portray may be influenced by environmental factors such as excessive parental pampering or childhood abuse. Dark empaths, on the other hand, tend to be more perceptive towards other people’s feelings than narcissists, yet they also manipulate people quite the same.
It can be quite difficult to differentiate between narcissists and dark empaths unless you deeply examine their patterns of behavior and their ability to be genuine.They both rely on their dominance over other people, so what exactly would happen when they meet each other? Who will benefit from who? Let’s find out.
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DISCLAIMER: This video is not made to attack anyone who may display these signs or anyone diagnosed with these disorders, but rather to understand them and bring more awareness to the topic!
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It might be funny to try mini series where you watch an episode or two of a popular show then try to predict what will happen.
I'm usually great at ruining movies like this.
"Psych2go tries to ruin... Game Of Thrones."
"The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog" - Mark Twain
This is going to be my year book quote
Omg
@@SkibidiOhioRizzlerDukeDennis 2ndary school? Associate's? Bachelor's?
So true
What about cats?
A dark empath with a narcissist is like when two anime villains team up but are secretly plotting to betray each other when they reach their specific goals
Literally
A sith Lord and an apprentice
I’d watch that anime haha
Death note loooool
Like Kabuto and Obito. The former is a narcissist, the later is a dark empath.
Narcissist: PREPARE FOR TROUBLE
Dark empath: AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
Top tier comment right here! 😆
Team Rocket!
Team rocket
Psychopath: "Meowth that's right" 😂
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I think what a dark empath really is is someone who can detect other peoples feelings, but it doesn’t affect them as much as regular empaths. This doesn’t necessarily mean they’re evil, if they choose to, they can be nice, and care about people. It’s just that dark empaths don’t get affected by other peoples emotions, they just have that ability to block it out and not feel it. Unlike empaths. But they’re not necessarily evil. They won’t necessarily use their ability to manipulate others, it’s just that manipulation comes easy to them because they can feel other people, but it doesn’t affect their emotions. This is just what I think, correct me if I’m wrong.
The Grey Empath
@@draines91 😅🤣
Thank you. I think I am a dark empath and I'm working in the psychiatry ward. I can really get an communicate with the patients , but I don't get burnt out by all the suffering I see. It's really great.
It's not that we are evil. It's not up to me to judge. It's just that I at least get sick of other peoples stupid feelings and have realized that most people are narcissistic to a degree. I don't seek to control others. I only give back what they gave to me.
Wrong, Dark empaths only want what benefits them, they will say and do whatever just to get your control, believe me.
Narcissist: Hoho, your approaching me?
Dark Empath: I can’t emotionally manipulate you without getting closer.
Narcissist: HOHO, THAN COME AS CLOSE AS YOU LIKE.
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this comment is gold lmfao
Best anime moments psychtogo
@@AiresLA Oh right, sorry for the mistake. I’m not gonna edit it though. People won’t trust my comments when their edited.
LOL
Narcissists to dark empaths: Finally a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
Dark Empath: I already put you in a box of my own design before you ever started.
@@illbeyourmonster3591 💯🎯
Dark empath : Oh how cute - this liddle silly thing think it can battle with me.
I leth it think that it has won and when it comes closer than I stab it down.
The body will be never ever found .
Smart money is on the Dark Empath.
Us to the narcissist: Opponent? No, I'm your best ally! ~never mind that you're just a tool to do what we want without us having to take the blame for the failures~
I used to know a narcissist and dark empath they were both equally toxic and now that i know that i'm glad i wasn't friend with them for long. The narc lied a lot and tryed to make me pity him and the dark empath used my secrets to manipulate and he treated me like a dog when no one was looking. They were both in different time frames of my life but they were awful.
How did you beat the Dark Empath?
Or lost he (she?) just the joy to torment you?
As far as it is my experience, the most effective way is to use truth and expose him in the puplic.
I did this several times and ugh was this exhausting.
Luckily I was never under their radar, which is why they never took me as a target.
However, they made so often conflicts that I felt pissed and sowed doubts in the peoples mind. That way, they doubt about the words of the Dark Empath, rebuild their relationships and turned against the schemer.
The result was, that everyone avoid her (yeah it was a her) and abadonned her. Ahh and I got my peace again.
Oh and in another time same shit was happen. But after I calmed them down, or rather scream them together - what was very embarassing - they got their cool back and question the words about the schemer, confronted her (yeah, a girl, again) and frighten her.
The both formely outplayed girls refriended again and excuses to me, that they were so loud, aggressive and had fight in my presence.
God, I felt so sorry at that moment. I won't forget these puppy eyes they had gave me.
Seriously I felt really guilty for my reaction. And of course I forgave them fast. I mean they were tricked.
In the end, they had even give me a hug, which happened fast and suddenly. Until today I wonder why? Maybe as a part of the excuse too? 🤔
Well, these were my experiences with such manipulative people. I hope I will never meet such a person again.
A friendship between both, when there's mutual desire to be decent to the other, is the most fun thing there is. Not all people with that kind of personality has an evil disposition, despite what people without those traits might think, and may consider carefully who deserves good treatment and who doesn't.
Honestly that crazy friendship and the feeling of being completely unassailable like a couple of tigers in a petting zoo is the one thing I miss from my teenage years, sometimes I wonder what she did with her life after we stopped talking, and how many people who were not capable of handling her screwed themselves by going after her.
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It’s so scary that sometimes you can’t even see these traits. There’s so many ways you can manipulate and gaslight people it makes you apprehensive with trusting others 😕
The best way to keep control of your relationships is, in fact, manipulating them before they try it with you. You gotta be utterly malicious with people... 'cause they usually wouldn't go easy on you if you let them in without any defenses on your side, ESPECIALLY if you see some red flags (like them talking about wanting to help you "change", talking about loving you because "you make them feel good" or other bs, usually very little time after having met you for the first time). It's either you be the smart one or the stupid one. You can only be stupid with smart people that will keep you safe... but I don't think you should ever trust smart people at all, since they can lie and your emotions would stop you from realizing it. Always trust your instinct on that matter. And be smart, it's better. Keep them under control. It doesn't mean you have to gaslight them, if the situation doesn't give you the need... but I like to keep an open mind on that, I don't know about you. Nobody deserves to harm me anyway, so if someone tries it or actually manages to do it they will face hard consequences. I only used that kind of manipulation with one person in my entire life, but I think I can get used to it, since people like him actually deserve to be treated as what they are: total scumbags. In short, narcissists.
bruh Khalilah D. You're literally everywhere.
Girl you’re the narcissist why are you under every post
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My mother was a narcissist. Her parents spoiled her. They're never responsible for anything they might be doing wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
Sorry to heart, how was your childhood?
My aunt is a narcissist too.. her parents did worse in her
My dad is a narcissist :( I'm sorry I hope you didn't turn out like them, and I hope I don't turn out like my 'dad'
My parents are both narcissistic I am afraid I am becoming a dark empath to control my parents in order to survive..
@@ameraagao4423 That's great :) I think it's awsome how you are able to manipulate your parents, they are narcissists there's no reason to be afraid :) Also, dark empaths aren't as bad as narcissists in my opinion I will rather be a dark empath than a narcissist.
I actually had a friend who is VERY narcissistic and i'm probably an empath turned dark. But for some reason our qualities equalized each other and we basically became self-conscious now. She knows she is very narcissistic and is able to turn off her narcissism now in comparison to her case before (it's probably still faking but you know you can't really change that easily) and i also may have manipulated her and she knows what i'm doing so she reprimands me for shit and i realize I'm doing it unconsciously lmao
Hey that's kinda wholesome actually! I'm glad that the both of you are working past those limitations!
Its like a movie plot,where two “bad guys” meet each other and after and intricate movie plot they become better version of themself.
@@zedantyorant lmao truly, we always had considered ourselves as villains as we tend to play the dirty roles in making our friends pick up themselves, and at some point we are even aware that we are going too far but if we stop, all our plans in resolving problematic issues within our friends will be all for naught so we have played the villains until the bitter end. It was literally so funny when our other friend seeked refuge on other groups just to find validation from her wrong decisions which she knows and still remains delusional because we are very upfront with the shit she does and stopped sugarcoating (yes we did give our other friend the benefit of doubt but her decisions are literally making her fall into a downward spiral)
I just hope you become better still.
Same lol.
I used to work for a narcissist. And they are all of this and more. Whatever you do, it's never enough. Tantrums, belittling, guilt, it's all to make people feel subordinate, so the narcissist can cement their role.
And heaven help you if you stand up to them or try to put yourself first (self-care, work/life balance, etc). You become public enemy #1. The worst is when your friends get turned against you because they either believe the lies or they just figure it's better you than them.
It's healthier and happier away from them, but it's also kinda lonely at times.
0:59 *A power duo might be born*
1:51 *A fight for control ensues*
2:42 *Their language will be lies*
3:18 *Manipulation will be their weapon*
3:52 *They will get on each other’s nerves*
4:40 *They will charm their way out of it*
5:30 *They won’t forget each other’s mistakes*
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Join me on the dark side and we will rule as father and son!
My relationship with my mother lol
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@@metfanmetfan1477 its a dumb question but are you okay?
Life's easier when you can pick your battles. You don't need to defend your ego and get offended every time someone disagrees with you. Only insecure people do that.
Excellent Point 👍
Agreed! We need to be selective of our problems, arguments, and confrontations in our life. Because how we spend our time matters and we don't want to waste it on unnecessary battles 🌱✨
The difficulty is when people decide not to fight any battles and just "let the bully win because it's easier". And maybe that's why society is as screwed up as it is.
@@philpem
Ever watch a Cat kill a mouse? Now, envision a mouse that envisions itself as a snake ... a snake named "Iago" ... and You know how it turns out for that sniveling creep in the end: He's dragged off the stage to be tortured. I've come to discover that there's one thing that can make the Iagos of this world beg for mercy ... or death. And that is HUMILIATION. They HATE that the most. So, it must be effective toward its intended purpose. But then we go ahead and push the proverbial Red Button anyway.
So, yes ... pick our fights wisely, and DO IT RIGHT.
i just think youre too weak to fight battles you didnt pick
At sometimes I would think I was a dark empath.
Then I got a hold of this series and found myself in a new bike.
I don't make others do things for me I do things for myself.
Which is a huge notable difference. I tend to think of others before myself. I'm not a people pleaser I just want a calm environment about the only selfish thing I can think of. Even if I can't control it. I often end up giving more than I want in return. I'll even restrain myself if I knew that will hurt somebody.
But also found a new Love and talent within myself watching people become themselves without intervention.
Both good and bad yeah I have a high emotional quotient. But knowledge of emotion is not a tool. But a better way to understand others.
Now I can't see the same for my twin sister. My sister is loving but recently she showed me her true self. Not directly but by noticing behavior. She often gets other people to do whatever she wants.
She often shows a false sense of empathy.
But what hurts me right now is that the worst had to happen in order for me to be aware of it.
I was her roommate living with her & relationship. 5 years and then separation.
But when it came to sources of escapism became her only drive. I don't think she was a dark empath at start but developed it.
Going through the mundane path made her wanting more.
Even though the path provided was good and sustainable.
People are not born narcissists or bad people bad people just get bad treatment and then Express that subconscious emotion through their narcissism in false empathy.
I still feel heavy for her I just wish she'd turn around from this dark past she found.
I like how philosophy States it.
The persona is a mask.
It's our choices we make not what we look like
Well said
I have a friend who’s well on his way to be a narcissist. He constantly gets pissed off at me if I don’t understand something that is second-nature to him, has family history of narcissism, and tends to seek admiration from his classmates and/or peers. It gets exhausting and we don’t text nearly as often as we used to, we still talk yes but sometimes it doesn’t always go smoothly with him. My ex was and still us a dark empath. He manipulated me into leaving a certain friend group who I’ve since reunited with, constantly made things about him, acted like he cared about me when he only wanted my body (suggested getting it on before the 1 month mark), tried to force a relationship (polyamorous) 3 times before we broke and only did it so it could satisfy a kink of his.
I was a dark empath at one point, I controlled my friend to stop talking to his friends and only me, I feel absolutely horrible about it now. I'm a coward and scum of the earth, I suffer for my consequences everyday.
@@Arktischen yes, commit seaside
@@Roach2137 How does one commit the seaside?
@@Arktischenthe first step of healing is facing the parts of ourselves we dont like. The second part is learning from this but not harbouring guilt. The mere fact you called yourself the scum of the earth.. shows how bad you feel. Forgive yourself. You know better, now 😊💚🧿🙏
As a former dark empath who found true compassion in therapy, I can vouch for the validity of this video.
I had an ex who is a narcissist and the “power couple” dynamic is very real. The structure is a team effort is ideal in team manipulation. As sharing empathic insight with a ruthless and unwavering frontman leads to major success.
If you don’t know if you know one of us, here’s a way to narrow the search.
Dark empathy will allow themselves to be minorly vulnerable for you, as a way to let you attach. Narcissists will be hesitant.
Dark Empaths will even admit that it’s hard to trust other people. (Not you, of course, wink). That is truly where it lies with a lot of dark empaths. A high level of empathy, but a low level of trust, compassion, and fear of loss/abandonment can fuel our thinking and makes us miserable because we feel alone…while also satisfying an internal preference to have independence, through solitude, sprinkled with positive associations.
If life was a rpg video game then classifications like these would make sense and makes for some fun conversations
As a baby dark empath(due to being improsined as an adult since the age of 17 up until I was 19) I vouch for the validity of this video as well. I'm trying to shake off the manipulation I had to learn in prison and fake masks bc I want to live a happy life but I feel swallowed to put that mask on again when I work or have to deal with people. I've learned that it's actually a trauma response. At the same time, I battle dissociation due to my 10 months in complete isolation before I was sentenced. Also a reaction to the way the world has changed since I was locked up and I don't feel like I'm in the same world anymore. The last I remember was the year 2018. I've only turned 20 this year. But I find this video resonates with me deeply because sometimes I feel outclassed by some people when now I'm realizing that they're actually just narcissist and I've let my internal beliefs of trying to be a better person make me humble and I try to humble myself to not do the same as a narcissist such as gossiping and lying. Although that leaves me lower then the average person because the narcissist hones in on me and realizes I'm more of a threat then an audience. Leaving me to be the brunt of gossip and conversation when I literally have the capability to tear their entire reality down but I don't want to do that either. Because I just want to work and I fight the urge to be a terrible person because, again, I actually want to live a happy life. I know somebody at work right now that has made my work life a living hell because we were working together and he realizes I threaten his entire identity because I see through his lies. We poked at each other before but it disturbed him the matter of factly jokingly way I made jokes at expense of the lies he was saying. Thing about narcissist is that they will swear they aren't narcissist just because they know it would mean losing their audience bc no one likes a narcissist. They also double down. But watching them double down is exactly the weak spot. Seeing the look on their face when they realize they said the sane thing to reinforce their image but that image was already broken so it's like having fried their brain for a moment in front of everyone else. Pathetic. But yeah I don't achieve the same results but I have the means, means I'm not willing to resort to because I will waste so much energy down that path. The way I keep myself from being a terrible person is by being alone but life doesn't work out that way does it?
@@roshan6999 then the realization comes in that this isn't isn't videogame(at least I tell myself that so I don't keep going into rabbitholes of how this world is just a projection of things unreal and ultimately meaningless.) And trying to make it more real or to talk about them without self awareness is being a part of the videogame, not apart from it. Then life shows us that we can break the fourth wall so long as we are in the room. The room consists of ideas we use as playtoys such as gender, race, identity, culture, everything we use to make up our identity and to use as weapons for control when we are literally just in a fishtank. And by control I don't necessarily mean control of other people but control of ourselves which is ultimately impossible since our brains are programmed to do things without our doing so. That also reflects to behavior.
@@avilaazazel8915 Free will is a myth , religion is a joke . We're all pawns controlled by something greater
MEMES, the DNA of the soul
@@roshan6999 I'm aware free will is a myth since people follow down only certain results of their consequences. As in, their world stays at a certain frequency and that frequency determines the kind of outcomes they face. The meaning of all this is to build the greatest meme lmao
Dark empaths would definitely have the advantage they don't have a need to be seen in a good light like a narc. They wouldn't have a problem feigning incompetence or weakness to get what they want.
Dark Empath is a Narc's worst nightmare, even if they don't know it. Same with any Empath when in protective mode.
Yep because we don't need to be seen as perfect and infallible we actually have true empathy so in a way we can actually be recognised as a manipulator but still maintain a good reputation by just apologising and claiming we didn't realise and because our behaviour doesn't match up with the stereotype of a manipulator we get away with it
I wonder if a dark empath can stop a dark triad
@@karaka2253 a dark empath is a dark triad who's also high in empathy ya know right?
@@karaka2253 bruh there's no such thing!!!
What happens when they marry is you get three kids with mental scars, and a divorce that surprised no one. I went and sought counseling and that helped me set boundaries. My other two siblings won’t because of fear and/or pride. It has been a relief to me. Thank you for the care and work you put in for mental health. It’s really needed. 🙂 Counseling has changed my life for the better and videos focusing on mental health give me hope as well as interest me. Thank you so much.
This needs to be an anime or smth. Like, idk, two high school students as the protags that look like a cute "protag and childhood friend" duo, but it's slowly revealed that they're being like, super manipulative to all the other students and the only ones they really care about is each other, and throughout the series they slowly take over the class, than the clubs, and eventually they just end up taking over the whole town, or like, the antagonist who's revealed to be the good guy takes them down at the end. They could also be side characters in a Komi Can't Communicate type show with a bunch of characters, and they'd always be fighting for control over literally everything, and then they just like, make out at the end of it turns out they're really good friends or smth? Idk I just feel like a boasting narcissist and a manipulative bastard would be a really fun character dynamic
It's terrifying to think that a dark empath is essentially a narcissist who is aware of other people's emotions because that just gives them so much more power over their narcissistic tendencies.
it is not terrifying but rather foolish to give another label to the narcissist who happens to have empathy, also narcissists have normal functioning empathy as well they just don't use it
people without empathy are autists as they don't understand what other people feel unless they are told.
@@deltaxcd as an autist you’re partially right , at times I feel 0 empathy, and have had to learn when people might feel bad , but other times I feel way too much empathy
@@deltaxcd i'm apparently an autist and i can feel empathy
atleast i think.
remember: autism is a huge spectrum.
@@afewofmycommentsarecringy.8646 well I think we may have different definitions of empathy as empathy is ability to understand how other people fell not mirror what they feel. (Mirroring another person is sympathy I think). and autistic people have big trouble understanding what other people feel so unless that person is expressing their emotions very strongly you will not be able to understand them from very weak hints or in situations when another person is even deliberately trying to hide their emotions.
As if you are in conversation with someone how well you can understand if they are interested or not and whether you need to think about another topic? Or when someone trying to cheat or deceive you.
@@deltaxcd
Heyo!
I'm on the autism specturm and can easily feel empathy for other's and some folks on the specturm don't have any issues with empathy but rather social ques, I personally struggle with *social ques* and not empathy!
Social ques being unable to drop a conversation piece, not being able to tell subtle things (I can somewhat tell subtle things with people due to practicing to understand body language more) or not being able to tell when to move onto a conversation piece.
Most autistic people are incerdibly direct and prefer directness above all else! ^w^
I'm more of a darker empath myself, and I bumped into a very narcissistic guy in college. We were pretty close, considering that we somehow got in a toxic friend group back then. Honestly, I was the only person that could call him out and hold him accountable for some messed up stuff he did. I will say that I did take multiple notes on him, and the biggest mistake he did was admitting he had a crush on me. Very interesting dynamic, let me tell you.
Interesting dynamic indeed.
Hmmm.... neat!
You were close, your buddy could care less if he were a real narcissist
what if I have a crush on a dark empath and I like it when they dominate me, what should I do then?
@@boimlol1500 Dark empaths don't dominate. They drain your happiness and energy to feel better about themselves. All while pretending to help you through it, to seem like a friend in your eyes. Creating future opportunities to benefit from your relationship.
I'm a dark empath, and honestly I am deeply offended by narcissism. I go out of my way to incite conflict with narcissists. They are vulnerable and I use those weaknesses to trigger the narcissist.
I am an empath but life taught me to use become half dark. I still care about them but I still can manuplate them, but it will hurt while doing it. But sometimes I have to use it when they hurt me or my friends. I used one on a big tough guy in my class which was a danger to us. Now he thinks I am friends with him, but I am not that much. But I always stay near my friends when they cry.
I would be curious to see what a dark empath and a narcissist could do if they worked together. With the narcissist's outgoing and charismatic persona, combined with the dark empaths understanding of others emotions, it could lead to a wide web of lies and manipulation
You wouldnt be amazed. They are worst team members, they are not able to co-work or even co-exist in groups for long time without being destructive part of the group.
Speaking from experience it leads to arguments and millions of disagreements until the other one finally gets their way after deeply hurting one another.
The less(almost impossible) outcome : they would possibly help each other in some way that they obtain eachother's goals. Maybe they could get along
The most possible outcome: They would work with each other only to obtain their goals, using each other and hurting each other.
Maybe they would fake cordiality, and would some times agree on some things. But they would still not get along and would continue to see each other like a tool.
They could hurt each other fisically and emotionally, the last one being more used by the dark empath to continue using the narcissist. And the first one being used by the narcissist.
In conclusion, even though they could be a power duo, it would be pretty toxic.
That’s Congress and the president put together lol
I think that's a very optimistic view of a narcissist. You don't have to be charismatic and charming to be a narcissist.
I would call myself a Dark Empath.
I was raised in a narssistic family, with a very strong family idealogy.
I have narssistic traits.
But I have been working on them with my SO as often as I can.
I have told her my tricks, and explained as close as I can, exactly how I am feeling in that moment.
This video seems to portray a Dark Empath as someone just more reserved then a narssicist, but still maniacle.
I personally use small manipulations, to push situations to a positive outcome for all.
Me included.
(If I can) XD
I just want to be true to myself, and help as many as I can.
Anywho
I dont appreciate the subcontext as all narssistic people are bad, or malicious, or diabolical.
We absolutly can be.
But not all of us.
I will do my best to take responsibility for my actions.
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The professionals are just now realizing we exist & don’t have it completely figured out a dark empath & a super empath are the same thing we’re not evil like narcissist we just learned how to fight back & it’s hard to turn off
@@eastbayromek7167 so a super empath is the same thing a dark empath?
Thank you for being open and actively working on yourself. Do you feel like the term covert narcissist would be a better fit for the example of "dark empath" in this video?
@Eastbay Rome k
How is a super empath the same as a dark empath at all? And like some dark empaths, not all narcissists are evil. Some are trying to change.
Just a reminder out there for the pick me people: being a dark empath and/or a narcissist isn’t a good thing! So if you have similar qualities but you brag about being manipulative, it’s not cute or quirky ❤️
There's no such thing in world as right or wrong but a mere reflection of oneself ...
@@poetic_android4824 which is exactly why we should be breaking away from dualities and archetypes in psychology.
@@Daydreamymeadow narcissists are actually very insecure, it's defense mechanism against criticism and feeling like a failure. To fake narcissism to boost confidence is like faking depression to boost happiness.
A narcissist will not admit to being a failure. A dark empath can call himself a failure in order to lure people into the trap.
Sounds like something a narcissist would write.
@@heathertoribio5824 or someone who has dealt with........
It gets old real fast
As someone with both manipulative and possibly narcissist parents and has manipulative tendencies myself, I always like to vibe check to make sure I'm being a good friend.
Certainly a good template for contrasting immature or less matured traits of empathy and trait narcissism. Great work(!)
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Hahaha...haha...isnt that the miserable truth?
I fell out with a friend of mine a couple of days ago & I believe she was a dark empath. I’m a diagnosed narcissist & this gave me a better understanding of why we could NOT get along for the life of me.
can u pls tell me how do we diagnose it?
Nobody knows what this comment said now 😈
@@idiotikeyy3557 I have a narcississtic friend (diagnosed) who became much more self aware over the years and even admits they do what they do now because they are "insecure". *update* cant find it in my heart to cut them off cold turkey but just set major boundaries since they just betrayed me and manipulated me. I no longer hang with them and dont reach out to them and short answer texts if at all. Protect your hearts, empaths. It doesnt matter what love the narcissist promises to give you, they will not be able to. And i hope all the narcisisst who want to get better DO get better cause thats gotta be a horrible way to live. Bless.
@@pardus3049 oh okay
@@idiotikeyy3557 They could have gotten help and are less narcissistic now-? And why would someone want to pretend to be narcissistic, it's not an exactly "quirky" or " cute" mental disorder
I am a dark empath and my "friend" is a narcissist. This is extremely accurate. Also, my good friend is a empath and no longer likes my narcissistic friend, reasonably.
This is very interesting. In your case, I'm not a narcissist. I was diagnosed psychopath. I got some narcissism in me and I had an empath friend that began to be afraid of me, and he doesn't like to be with me anymore. But I also have a sociopath to who I can speak like I want, but we are also in a relation in "If I can f*ck you, I will". Just to know. Can you relate?
Why are they still friends with you though?
@@rest1585 maybe because he is a good person?
@@-_deploy_- Impossible. This made up genre of personality is defined by manipulating others and malicious intent and behavior. Psycho2Go says this themselves. ‘Dark empath’ is not an actual psychological term, but what we can infer from how it’s been pictured you have to be a jerk to be one. It’s not a good thing lmao.
@@ulamypulchar9212 what
I met one person who did everything in his power to take advantage against me. He would lie and use my emotions against me. He would treat everyone around me like I was the dirt under his feet. I had to pull him off of my friends on multiple occasions. He would always join off me in VRChat only to either talk about stuff he likes, or ramble about politics, or how much he hated specific groups. He never seemed to care about what I wanted to talk about, or my feelings. I would tell him off numerous times for attacking my friends, and he would promise to change, only to become more aggressive and hateful. When I first met him, he didn’t like the avatars I liked using, until I ignored the red flags he was giving me, and became his friend. After I did, he would make hundreds of the same kind of avatars that I liked. He was using them as a lure to keep me with him, and as a weapon to make people who used the same kinds of avatars seem like they were all horrible people. In secret, he would go into public worlds, and harass people in the same kinds of avatars that me and my friends loved. I met a couple in ChilloutVR who were positive that when I sat down next to them, I was going to berate, and insult them, until I showed that I meant no harm. They told me about someone using an avatar very similar to my own who did the same thing. That’s only the tip of the iceberg. The manipulation and deception went far beyond that.
I hate to be that guy, but VRC and ChillOutVR will always have them. They're there for a reason - because they can't make friends truly. That realm is filled the truest empaths and the worst narcissists. Mainly because the truest empaths are taken advantage of way too easily in the real world, and the worst narcissists have expired all of the possible friends they could make IRL, so they're left with no option but the internet
@@warwolf715 that makes a lot of sense, because despite all the advice and warnings I gave him to change, he continued to ruin his friendships. Just recently, he was banned from a few Discord servers because he was saying basically “trans people are disgusting” everyone in the server, and when he was called out on it, he doubled down, and started getting aggressive. Same with TF2. He was too toxic for even TF2 servers.
@@beanmchocolate3900 lmao what a loser that guy is,life will teach him.
I've recently realized that I am somewhat of a dark empath and I'm actively working on bettering myself. But this video is literally the story of my most recent relationship of two years. My ex is a narcissist and I've broke things off mostly because of his behavior and thanks to you, I can see how our dynamic worked and damaged us and people around. Thank you for once again, teaching me something new about the world and myself ❤️
Why should you "better" youself? You're not wrong, after all. Sometimes people just act "bad" in order to keep the others away, especially when it comes to having a narcissistic boyfriend/girlfriend. You just gotta figure out how to treat each person. It's not like if you messed up with your ex you will do the exact same thing with your future or present loved one. Plus, a toxic relationship ALWAYS makes normal people indulge in toxic behaviours. Maybe, with a "normal" guy (or girl), you would not act the same way. And I'm quite convinced of it... narcissists can turn you into the worst person you can be. But nobody can always treat everyone with patience, since some people might just make you waste your time and energy. You gotta be tough with people that don't respect you. Try figuring out what are your actual and undeniable faults, and don't let your emotions give all the blame to you or pin you up as "bad", 'cause most of the blame is likely to belong to the narcissist one.
Hi Rena, Thank you so much for your support. That's amazing that you are working to grow yourself. We hope that our videos can continue to be helpful and create a supportive community!
I was worried I was the only dark empath although I’m trying to be better
I think I’m both with all my 16 personalities help me I don’t like feeling like 16 people 😩
@@crystalmelanie8766 then make those personalities into DND people
A teacher I had used to act like a narcissist. She would tell us things like “idk y ppl think I’m a narcissist” and then once she told us that she randomly took a water bottle out of a girls hand n bottle flipped it. The whole class clapped and u can tell she loves attention. She always talks about her forensic cases and told us about her awards. She would critique every little thing we did during labs. She told us “it’s not that I don’t feel for others but it’s like” and she couldn’t really explain herself. My friends and I have a feeling she is one 😭
Sounds like she can’t admit it but def is one 😂
It's inappropriate that she is discussing this with you as students. She definitely doesn't have boundaries for one thing.
She doesn't admit it because "narcissist" is a word that sounded bad. It's not just your friend really, based on the description on the video she is definitely one.
I had a teacher like that who instead of talking about the class she was talking about her children doing cute stuff and in general talking about her life, stuff that is completely unrelated to what she was supposed to be teaching.
I was her worst nightmare, whenever she said something i would turn her own words into a joke, not to make the class laugh but to make myself laugh as i found it genuinely funny.
I believe i got the attention from her which she didn't like even if that wasn't exactly what i was aiming for, i just knew that she liked that attention so whenever she talked instead of her getting attention she was getting embarassed from her own words getting twisted into a joke.
She was so frustrated she ultimately banned me from her class for good, but i didn't care because i knew i would pass the class anyway the next year.
I only did this with this one teacher, all the others i treated them normally.
@@huevonesunltd Omg she definitely is!! See my teacher literally called a student out. My friend who sat at my table had a cheer competition for school and she missed the case. I’m front of the class she says “I can’t show you the results of the case bcuz a student still needs to make it up. It’s not my fault sorry guys” and the other ppl at my table looked at eachother and the teacher turned and goes “someone in another class” LIKE WERE DUMB OR SOMETHING. She was panicking.
This is a very accurate description of my family dynamic. Line by line exactly what we do and what we struggle to do. Although I usually end up in control, it's excruciatingly exhausting to control a narcissist.
Shout out to whoever made the art work for this, it was very fitting
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Why do these “let’s appreciate” comments always become the most liked? Isn’t the whole “let’s appreciate” thing old at this point?
@@rest1585 true lol but the rest of what I said came from the heart ❤️ and how I felt about the channel
@@rest1585 Let's appreciate the fact that appreciation is most appreciated for Psych2Go because they're making videos everyday to improve our mental health. They appreciate us for appreciating them, just like we appreciate them for appreciating us. Also, I appreciate your feedback! 😊
@@Mii.2.0Understandable.
@@rest1585 have a nice day.
I can confirm that I am a dark empath. The worst thing about being manipulative is that I actually really enjoy the chaos it can create. I don’t even feel bad about it. To make things worse this whole video sums up my most toxic and abusive relationship I had with a narcissist. I always pulled the strings and found ways to come up on top without having to make a scene like her. I truly feel that narcissists like my ex are mentally disabled children who are VERY predictable. This whole video has opened my eyes to how fucked up I am and I’m not sure how I feel about it.
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haha I'm the same. But I'm still friends with my narcissist friend. I like him around for the high energy :D
I’m a dark empath too but I usually am able to tell how someone is feeling on a deep level I feel the emotions strongly. It’s rough tho because I’m manipulative without even fcking realizing it. I’m so broken
We can tell who’s lying very easily atleast like Gabriel here
@@gabrielr8642 if you’re bragging about manipulating someone you’re just a narcissist. I genuinely care about the people I’m around but I didn’t even know I was manipulative until my counselor tore me apart
I was raised by two narcists. They were jealous, spiteful, needy and immature. It's effected me all my life, even now to some point. I've gone through some long journeys to undo the damage they did.
I like how the best way to feel in control of everyone around you without manipulating or hurting anyone is just knowing what narcissists and dark empaths are going to do so that they can’t get to you. Thanks for giving this information, it is as constructive as it is fascinating.
If you think this informations are going to protect you, then you are a fool
Here’s how NOT to be manipulated. Judge each situation and be careful of what you’re told by a suspected dark empath / narcissist and act only after you’ve assessed the situation thoroughly for yourself….
Don't bother if they are a dark empath, we are usually several steps ahead.
your advice is literally just be careful
@@minerxen Cope
@@minerxen nonsense, there's plenty of dark empaths who aren't that intelligent, and you can easily manipulate them if you understand the game better.
Best way? Look at their actions, not words.
Id say im a grey empath. I have lots of compassion, but also manipulate situations usually to get out of them or cause the least harmful outcome out of concern for both myself and others.
Unlike dark empaths though, I have no interest in controlling others. I only do it when necessary. I also use that ability to spot others manipulating the room.
Im not a wolf in sheeps clothing, im a sheep with a gun hidden in my wool.
you are saying as if you would have no choice to manipulate in such situation
@@Ra-fh4zx Ive definitely persued my own interests by manipulating others, however Ive also helped people and mediated problems this way. Ive never harmed someone with manipulation though. I usually use it to calm things down
@@shady1137 noice
@R136a1 well yea, manipulate before you become the manipulated. Makes sense to me.
🤣 a sheep with a gun hidden in his wool 🐑🔫
I’ve never met a true narcissist to my knowledge, but some of my own family members have had narcissistic tendencies.
As for a dark empath, i myself may have been at one time. There was a time when i had toxic traits more closely related to a dark empath. But it eventually led me to ruin and i sort of went through an era of reevaluating what i was and what kind of person i wanted to be to other people. Eventually i got tired of using others and to this day i often fear returning to who i once was…
Just be the success story. That is good enough. Thank you for working hard on yourself and making those around you more confortable 💟
Using other ? I can't imagine doing that, I mean they are so foolish ! (So am I) Yeah..
Consider this: You don't decide what your emotions and impulses are. But you do decide what your intent and actions are. It's how we look at how we feel (and why we feel it) that shapes our reaction to our impulses and emotions. I hope you take the time to read this all even though it's a little lengthy.
To me, emotions serve three functions. Two internal functions (warning system and diagnostic tool) and one external function (social signaling).
Our emotions are an instinctive reaction regarding how we perceive our environment. Things that we view as negative (for ourselves and/or others) make us sad, things that we view as unjust or malicious make us angry. Things that we view as positive (for ourselves and/or others) make us happy. Fear tells us that something is important to us, it is always about something we're afraid to lose. Then there's guilt to tell us the things we regret doing or not doing. Hope and despair are a consequence of what we expect from the future. So by recognizing these emotions within ourselves, and cognitively seeking to understanding what causes them, we learn about our relationship with our environment. But it also allows us to reflect on ourselves. Is our anger justified and proportional? Are our fears?
And then there's the external function. Communicating our emotions to others is all about intent. I show grief when I want others to comfort me or alternatively to show sympathy for their suffering, I show anger when I want others to respect my boundaries or to share in our frustration together, I show happiness to pay it forward and I talk about my fears to show my vulnerability (it is a bonding mechanism that fosters trust). I show my guilt to appease those I've wronged. I show my hope so people know what I'm putting my effort into. I don't like showing despair as I don't like to act on desperation in any way. If a problem is hopeless all that remains is to accept the outcome and put my efforts towards something I can solve. Because if I think co-operating with others might be able to fix a problem I can't fix by myself, it means I'm still on the side of hope. Despair is the emotion that tells me to put a problem into the freezer for later. It's not meant for communicating because it creates nothing.
Internally, our emotional state is completely fluid. A single realization or consideration, or a slight change in our environment, can drastically change how we feel about something. Externally, our emotional state is crystalized. We manifest a feeling into the shared reality in a specific way, and the moment we do that, we can't undo that influence we've had on others. We might atone for it or counter-act it later if possible, but we can't take it back. It will never disappear. We've done it and it triggered neurons in the other person's brains. So it's important to shape our behaviour after our intent, rather than after our emotions themselves. This manifestation also has some interesting side-effects. The things we manifest have more weight to us. They became something that exists not only within ourselves, so even if we change it within ourselves it still exists outside of us until we change others' perception of us. It [manifestation] also allows others to reinforce or challenge our emotional state.
And to bring it full circle, back to you: Your fear is a good fear. It will help you to not return to your traumatized/underdeveloped self. You know what you're afraid of, so the question you have to ask yourself periodically is "How can I do everything in my power to prevent myself from becoming self-centered or malicious?". But the fact that you've reflected on yourself with a very altruistic goal in mind (I quote: "what kind of person I wanted to be to other people") makes me very hopeful. Because it's that intent that matters. As an empath I wish you the best of luck in imagining and manifesting the most positive self you can be (without self-deprecation). It is far more valuable and meaningful than the hollow pursuit of exploitation. You have the tools (high EQ) to create harmony and hope in others. If you decide to value that goal, your intent will follow.
@@NLTops Thank you, and yes i did read your entire reply. Im glad i did too. I think that you’re correct to say that we can never take back our past emotions, nor can we undo the impressions that we’ve left on others. You’ve also redefined what “hope” means in my mind. Before reading your comment i simply thought of hope as something that you wanted to happen regardless of whether or not any effort would go into making it happen. But now i understand that what makes hope “hope” is the aspiration to make things work out the way you intend for them to.
So how does this pertain to who i am now? Well i realize that that person i once was to other people will always be a part of me. I understand that my environment played a part in how i developed into someone with those habits. But likewise i understand that just because i hurt people (emotionally) who didn’t deserve it in the past doesn’t mean that that’s all i can do. But if i aspire to be better and to treat current and future relationships as more than a mere means to an end then i can accomplish my goal of self improvement. Whether the people whom Ive hurt can ever forgive me or not is purely up to them… and i understand that none of them are obligated to…
However a few things that help me these days is that i realize that for one, placing blame on myself or others will not solve anything. Only moving forward and understanding what i did wrong will. The other thing being that trauma heals with time, often at its own rate. Not just mine but those of others around me. Thankfully some of the people whom I’ve wronged have later reached out to me and i apologized to them. I have reached out to as many people as i could from the past as well. Some have accepted my apology, and now im good friends with them again. Not everybody has though, and i guess i don’t really blame them.
TLDR: thank you for your concise and understanding comment. I can tell that you really have a high emotional intelligence. I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors kind stranger.
@@maxumProductions As far as hope goes I think you're half right. Simply wanting something isn't hope yet. Hope is the combination of wanting something and considering it possible. Furthermore, feeling hope doesn't require action. But the purpose of hope is to motivate us into action. So in that sense, hope on which we don't act is incomplete, which is why you're right to mention the importance of following through.
I don't know how old you are, but you're right about the environment playing a significant role in a lot of our early behaviours (up to adolescence). We're all born ignorant of the world and growing up is essentially our brain structure shaping itself according to how we perceive our environment. Trauma in particular can lead to some really difficult instincts to overcome. It's good to be kind to yourself and forgiving of your past wrongs. As long as the regret and guilt have served their purpose of affecting us to change there is no harm in self-forgiveness.
Whilst your wrongdoings can't be taken back, and will always be a part of how you got to where you are, it's also important to remember that people aren't static. You're the person who did those things, but that doesn't mean the current or future you would do those things. The past is filled with iterations of yourself. You were each of them, but you are none of them. And you've already learned something that many struggle to accept: you are aware of your capacity for evil. You've paid a price to learn that about yourself. And that awareness gives you the ability to take greater care to prevent it.
Emotions should be taken seriously, but carrying them around beyond their purpose can also be harmful. A deep sense of guilt can make it difficult to appreciate our own efforts to make amends or to change. It might feel like nothing we do is enough to make amends. And if we don't feel positive about the good things we do, they are more difficult to reinforce and encourage within ourselves.
Another thing I wanted to add is: Some scars don't heal, but they do fade as long as we neither cling to nor avoid or suppress how we feel. Pain and guilt can be very toxic. They can make us feel fearful or undeserving of love and happiness and lead to us punishing ourselves. The ideal balance is "guilty enough to remind us not to make the mistake again, but forgiving enough not to become self-destructive over them.".
Life is a balancing act. Juggling everything that matters and trying not to fall off the unicycle. Falling isn't the end of the world, but it does come with breaking some things.
With your receptiveness and openness, of course your reaction isn't too long to read! I even couldn't help myself to plant a few more seeds. 😳
It was nice talking with you. As a little reward, I'll tell you something about myself that might blow your mind. You said I have really high emotional intelligence right? It might surprise you to hear that I'm autistic. What you've seen from me is the result of decades (I'm in my 30s) of effort and self-reflection. If that's not a symbol of the human capacity to change, I don't know what is. There were times I changed leaps and bounds, and times when I desperately crawled forward. I've even tumbled back downhill a couple of times and laid there crying in the dirt. I've gotten lost and I've found my way. I wouldn't say I've quite reached the summit of my journey yet (or perhaps I manifested a higher peak), but the view is already quite beautiful.
My wife and I suffered from childhood abuse and thus we both have degrees of narcissism. You'd think this is a time bomb ready to go off, and for a time it was. But after a long hard grind and tons of dialogue, our self-awareness prevailed and we are very self concious that we have these dark traits and call each other out when we step out of line. So it's good to see there's others that know themselves.
These channels are good at fear mongering and dividing by putting labels but seldom talks about treatments.
Can you provide solutions and treatments for us, who inherit narcissistic trait? We feel so lonely, need to improve but always looks "down" from parents, and worst the parent makes mistakes by finish the retirement and my mom died of severe depression
Two people in my life immediately came to mind, one dark empath and one narcissist. Felt like I was watching a nature documentary with thoughts of their interactions in my mind. Great video!
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The defintions have gotten so broad that everyone is either a narcissist or some dark empath or something. What about the people who don’t understand emotion but have no desire to overcome anything.
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This sounds like my parents. My dad’s an undiagnosed narcissist and judging by this description it is highly likely that my mom is a dark empath because dang. A lot of time she seems narcissistic but she’s so emotionally aware that I can’t pin her that way in my mind. Who knows really though? Unless they agree to see a therapist (which they never will) they can’t be diagnosed.
I wish you luck with those parents.
And I don’t know your exact relationship with them buuuut I hope you’ll find people that can help you if you ever need some.
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Oh gosh! I hope you are okay between those two?
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5:31 Currently in a power struggle as a Dark Empath vs a Narcissist at work and Number 7 is striking. I’ve gotta convince him MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) isn’t the best path towards us getting what we both want. These videos certainly give me lots to ponder, much appreciated!
1. A power duo might be born - 1:00
2. A fight for control ensues - 1:52
3. Manipulation will be their weapon - 3:19
4. They will get on each other’s nerves - 3:54
5. They will charm their way out of it - 4:40
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2:41 Their language will be lies
5:31 They won't forget each others mistake
I feel no shame indulging dark empathy with narcissism in my midst. It’s how I’m surviving my narcissistic family. I know not to be excessive, just use as needed and move on. Knowing who and who not to use it on makes you stronger than just being that 💯 of the time. For me, it’s a defense mechanism against genuine shite people. Good people I can trust do not get dark empathy from me.
I absolutely 100% agree, and that is one of the things I love most about being an empath. You can use it for good and help those who are deserving of your time and energy, it's great to be able to do that, relate and connect with people. And you can really screw people who are genuinely bad. I try to ignore those types and mostly it works, but if they really wanna go at war, we've got some heavy weaponery, don't we? Funny thing is, I take great pleasure in both helping those who deserve it and destroying those who insist on being shite. So I don't see any downsides to this lool
@@kaihiroku8495 agreed. It’s like when their being shite to me it’s fun to be shite to them back. Literally giving that to innocent peeps isn’t fun for me, cause narcissists actually are challenging and their ego is sweet to cut down. Can’t wait to get into my next career where I’m gonna make more money than most of these pricks, cannabis farming 😂. If me being an empath with well honed dark tendencies isn’t enough, my staggering finances will add a place of peace and more time to work at home, as well as train 😂
Same bro
Nailed it! 🔥
@@jayme3557 thank you
I absolutely love the animation!! :D
thank you, Psych2Go for always explaining things so clearly!
The Dark Empath is very recognisable for myself, but more as a defence against people who don't have the best intentions. I have had multiple narcistic "friends' in the past and I'm glad they are all gone. The worst part was how they affected my other friendships and made me a worse person in general for quite a long time.
I believe that I had the misfortune of having to work with these two personality types in a small office space; before and during the covid pandemic. The most hostile, toxic and tense office work space of my adult life; and I hope to never experience that type of fear, intimidation, frustration and cruelty again. The narcissist was in the role of manager (he literally complained to HR about my choosing to sit in the back seat of the company car instead of the front seat next to him as driver) and the role of Dark Empath was a different male co-worker; who was known for gossiping about everyone. When public access and outtings were restricted and only "essential staff" were allowed in the building, I was forced to be alone with those two; and yes they competed constantly until they found a joined cause to dislike and complain about me and I was fired. The EEOC did find cause for my filed complaint but in the end I withdrew because I learned that I would only be fighting to get the same job back within the same nightmare department with those two men. These videos are helping me to heal from that traumatic experience.
I went through a bad experience. At the job site they look for a nice full empath for all the jealous and weak people like narcissists to gang up on to keep everyone happy. Manipulate and humiliate that person for popularity to rise in ranks. The wrong narc and dark empaths and jealous weak people
That's absolutely horrible I'm glad you're healing
Im pretty sure I'm a dark empath and my family's made of narcissists. They've abused/hurt me in many ways and everyone I tried reaching out to (even the police) were malequipped to handle the messy situation.
I can say that I learnt pretty quick to manipulate pretty quick so I could survive. Every word, every resource, I needed to pull and push and twist just right just so I could see another sunset, just to keep breathing. Even mind, my body, my soul. I'd mutilate it all just so I could have a full meal, just so could keep going. I mighta been an empath once, but I wouldn't last long that way so I shoved it down
I've had clashes with narcissists that weren't pretty but generally, I know to give them way but it can be annoying. I dont really like to be the boss tho, its always better to work with the team/be second in comand. Its safer, people dont expect a manipulative ass as much and its less taxing work-wise so you can concentrate more on the relationships. Why do the heavy lifting after all?
I know better now that people aren't 'resources'. I somehow managed to get good people in my life and I'm relearning how to be nice and stuff. It's hard and I dont think I'll ever be 100% moral but frankly, I don't see it as a problem. It can be good to know how to allocate certain people to certain tasks while not having an emotional connection to muddy my logic or to make me depressed. Im going into the community service line so this is especially important. I wanna make sure no kid has to turn into me but the system is shit. I just need to remember that I dont need to have a tight grip cuz I have stable food and resources now so I dont need to be a cunt
Anyways thanks for reading my rant. I needed to get that off my chest. Not every dark empath is is as destructive as me. Some can be malicious, some can be grey, some can be kind. Be careful with your heart, but dont be paranoid, yeah?
Edit: spacing
Looks like you are just bragging about your manipulation skills :)
But in the end it is just about how little effort you can make and how much benefit you can get. Manipulation is a myth, there is no such thing. There is lying and cheating only.
@@deltaxcd sounds like you failed at manipulating bruh
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Some might mistake a dark empath for being passive aggressive....which is the normal state for most humans. Assertive types make me sick....they are among the most naive and annoying people out there....they haven't a clue about anything.
Wow so quirky
I really like this channel's artstyle
The LoL char choices of Draven and Renata... that's a really clever plug. Spot on!
Very interesting video, my own theory is that dark empaths, are empaths that were born into narcissistic families, and are familiar with and aware of how to play the narcissist at their own game.
It's a defense mechanism based on observation, emotional intelligence and also being wounded by a narcissist growing up.
So sometimes it can be an issue of revenge or unprocessed trauma, for me dark empaths are peaceful and intuitive people who generally just want to go about their business, but God help you if you cross them! They have long memories and know how to combat the grandiose arrogance of a narcissist! Also narcissists seem to be very attracted to them, because of the empathy (they do have, it's not faked imo) but also because of the elusive challenge they represent! You can't hoodwink a dark empath for long..., they know better than just about anyone! They are formidable opponents!
Of course the conceit of narcissists makes them think they can always be the winner or top dog in any conflict (and they always create conflict) and if they mess with a dark empath they are in for a big shock!
In my experience a dark empath is only dark when people underestimate them, take them for fools or try to take advantage, yeah then you'll see their dark side come out!
Treat them well and no problem, but narcissists don't treat anyone well and that's the problem.
A dark empath knows themselves, knows the narcissist and also knows that they wont tolerate being mistreated.
So narcissists get to taste their own medicine, and get played at their own game.
The problem in the end is that a dark empath is a deep and sometimes wise person and a narcissist can be shallow even infantile, so once this game is played out between them, the dark empath will want to move on, because they need to have a deeper connection.
It's the narcissist who could then be the sore loser in this situation, and won't want to give up the dark empath, and all the emotional intelligence they bring and sense of understanding....(also they hate to lose)
So in the end the dark empath could also lose if they are not careful,and get trapped into co dependancy!
Which is not what they want or need.
Narcissist's are very attracted to dark empaths....but it's to the detriment of the dark empath who quite frankly deserves better, because they are often born to narcissistic parents though, they might also (unfortunately) be attracted to narcissists, but imo that's unresolved childhood issues.
To be honest the best thing a dark empath can do is go into therapy to work on their childhood issues, usually involving neglect or abandonment, or being a scapegoat, involvement with a narcissist will always be triggering for them eventually.
They retain the seed of self awareness and development, they can move on from narcissists, but narcissists cannot usually move on from them! (because they have arrested development and actually are very needy and clingy particularly when they lose their supply!)
So unless a narcissist could wake up to themselves and admit they have a problem, which they find very difficult, this ultimately will be a relationship full of frustration and regret. It could however teach the dark empath a lot, but it's the narcissist who usually doesn't want to learn that ultimately is the one who gets left behind.
This is it.
Bravo, couldn’t have said it better, 100%!
@@katieking8830 Thank you ❤️
@@user-kq6ki5bn2k Thank you, ❤️ it's based on my experience and observations. I think a lot of people have also had similar experiences. It's good to know I'm not the only one.
If you are empath and have to live with a narcisist, you discover you have to become a dark empath to deal with the narcisist.
I had an ex who badly mistreated me and for a long time I thought he was a narcissist...until now. Dark empath makes a lot more sense but I never knew such a thing existed til now
Yes!!! They have narc tendencies & when angered can go full heyoka which will resemble a Narcissist
Same! This video has helped me identify a dark empath I'd previously thought to be a narcissist. Like you, I had no idea before today that dark empaths existed, but it has helped explain a lot. Fascinating stuff!
Thank you for sharing your story, BladefireA. It must have been hard for you but it shows strong you are to overcome such an experience. What do you plan to do next after this realizing this? 🌱
@@Psych2go thank you. I'm not entirely sure what more I can do. I suppose it gives me more insight about him, but I'd already been dealing with it in therapy and such. It's taken years for me to just feel comfortable dating again but I still find myself having issues with guys. I was recently asked by someone to be his girlfriend after we've dated a little while and despite the fact I really like him and we are so compatible, I still hesitated. He seems to be understanding but it just goes to show that progress with these things takes a long time.
Right!! They are actually quite common.
As someone with a very narcissistic mother and have some signs of dark empathetic traits, I can vouch that the last point in the video was really true especially for me and my mums relationship, she like to bring up past mistakes whenever she's losing arguments and ever since young I've had to learn to read her emotions and act accordingly to get the best results for myself in that situation. This, I've noticed, may also have actually been caused by other factors too, me staying with my relatives often and having to put up an act so I don't "bring shame" to my parents (mother) and for my mum, my fathers past infidelity which was later found out. Yea, pretty messed up, but I know that that doesn't mean that my mum doesn't care about me, most of the time it's honestly one or two clashes here and there but they definitely aren't as serious as before. And for me, I'm trying to keep myself from falling deeper into this dark rabbit hole that is "dark empathy"
You can ALWAYS tell her to mind her own business or just leave with a cheerful "Screw you".😂
@@johanneabelsen1644 haha I'd be dead if I did that honestly but I would've if I could 😂😂
@@BreathngIsFunim really really sorry that you had to experience all these things because of your mother or your surroundings in general. But let me tell you one thing: Once you meet the right people you will realise that there was never something wrong with you. Ever.
Also also keep in mind that this video might have a manipulative effect as well because you subconsciously try to get sorted into certain traits you are learning about. You could be thinking you are a dark empath while in reality you are an empath to whom happened a lot of really bad things. And that honestly sucks.
Btw, Yt deleted this comment for some reason just so you know why you got a few notifications of that comment lol.
@@alexandarthedivine I get what you mean and thanks, I'm also trying to better myself and hopefully have a better relationship with my parents, and I know their trying too, it's nice to have a random someone on the internet take time out of their day to even care abt what I vent out in the comments y'know, you're awesome ✨✨
@@BreathngIsFun thank you so so much!! You're awesome and I appreciate you too^^ If you want I can drop my discord if you want, I'm always there to listen and stuff
Thanks !! this video helps me a lot.
I'm an empath with a dark empath defense. Everything doesn't completely line up because I'm not power hungry, nor do I seek people out, I'm unwilling to let people disturb my energy if they try to sap or garner any kind of sympathy from me, and I can cut them off with a quickness because I remember everything, I don't immediately act on it until I confirm though which causes them distress.
I love the way you explained this, I’m the same way.
@@MelifluentSoul it took this video and confirming that a friend I had was taking out his frustrations on me to realize. I told him I wasn't attracted to him, I only see him as a friend and that we'd never work out but he kept saying and doing things to make me feel sorry for him and I didn't because he kept doing it to himself. I took a break from everyone because I was going through it and came back three days later to two people ditching me on social media for him and my twin telling me that he kept crying to her and lying about talking to me about what happened. Now I just ignore him completely when I'm out to my favorite bar, he just keeps talking about me which brings everyone around him down.
Love the explanation.
Having a Narcissistic mother, I became Empathic and as a result of learning from a pro like my mother, I ended up with Dark Empath traits. I call it being User Friendly. I hate when I have to be that way, but I have come to realize, in this day and age, that I use it when I Don't want to be manipulated or stepped on by others in the first place. I use it on people I don't really like and avoid it on people I DO like. I've also learned that being this way can be a Triple Threat in and of itself..... Which can Sometimes come back to bite me in the ass, if I'm not careful. Another reason to be exhausted a lot.
Thank you because this helped me. I'm a dark empath.
Thank you for the insight. I’m actually really glad my career in the cannabis industry I’m getting into will fund me greatly to where I can have some greater backbone to the narcissism and make better on my want to resist it and identify it WAY faster. I wanna get to the point to where, at my own will, at my own discretion, through careful observation, I cut down the narcissistic ego with surgical strikes, compliments of my vorpal scalpel in the belief of psychological warfare, both logical and illogical.
Can you tell me how it can be triple threat. Like how does it come back to stab you in the back.
@@lildiamond6235observe the law of karma
@@unased2144 I don’t understand what you mean. I mean using your understanding of others in order to protect yourself, how is that a bad thing? As long as you are not harming others
This is spot on!
I always thought I might be a narcissist, but I do feel slightly guilty about some things. Not enough to curb my own amusement, but enough to set some form of boundary. Now I shall jump into this new rabbit hole that seems much more relatable.
I am a dark empath without always intending to be, and I'm in therapy now and it's sooo hard to unlearn all of my behavior patterns
Don’t give up
lmao Jesus himself is a dark empath
seriously though, I wish you luck with the therapy :)
You've got this!
i feel you
It’s not hard. Choose light.
To be honest the dark empath is scarier to me because they appear kind-hearted when they are just as selfish as a narcissist
Selfishness is ok in life, to some degree.
Well done vid.
That was fascinating!
I've met a duo of these guys: they get along but compete at the same time it's funny but ya usually there's a more mean friend (narc) and the more friendly friend but still have dark intentions and manipulative tendencies (dark empath.) This is very informative n true
As an Empath im highly disgusted in both character traits such as narcissistic personality types as same as dark empaths. So many people made me have hella trust issues that's why I stay the shit out of arguments
💯💯💯
This. 👆👆👆
FACTS
They're not personality types they're mental disorders 🤨
cant agree more!
Thank you Psych2Go, I really do find your videos to be helpful. Keep up the good work &, in my opinion, I don't mind if you want to review something you've done already. In fact, sometimes I find going back to something you've done can be a great learning experience. It's like remembering the basics of something, sadly the only reference I have to this is in martial arts. Before one can use advanced techniques, one must master basic actions & movements like having a good foundation stance. Without the basics one will fall more easily & sometimes the basic moves can be better than advanced moves.
That's interesting! I can share how hilarious it is to have a best friend who's a narcissist, while also suffering from this disorder. When we're messaging each other, we both try to appear as if we're interested in what the other person is saying, while simultaneously knowing that it's not genuine. When I send him a piece of music that I've created and am very proud of, he'll acknowledge it, and say that it's fine (yeah, just "fine"), even though I've worked on it for almost half a year, then proceed to brag about his poetry. It's hilarious because I know exactly why he's doing it - he feels threatened and jealous, and I do the exact same thing when he sends me a poem or a short story that he wrote for the exact same reasons. We're both aware of our flaws and strategies, and the hilarious part is that we both appreciate the fake interactions because they're proof that we actually care about our relationship. After all, if we didn't care, we wouldn't even bother to say anything nice about the achievements of the other person - it's important even when it's fake.
How do you deal with family members who try to stress everyone and bully them when they are stressed? The problem is even if you try to avoid them they keep doing it until a conflict/fight happens.
my mom asf bro lmaooo
My abusive, alcoholic father
Yeah. They love,conflict, drama, fighting. Dont under any circumstances give it to them.
@Lauren Lewis yep, though it's not healthy to hide your emotions, so it's probably better you make sure you have someone to vent to if you're dealing with those kind of people
@Lauren Lewis yeah, that's probably better
A dark empath is a broken emapth.
yep kinda what I feel like as
As much as I want to be nice, I can’t deny your partially correct.
Yes true, when you keep poking or attempting to destroy an empath.. their dark tendencies showup like any other person or personality type’s tendencies will
What makes you say that? They appear to be much more powerful than regular empaths.
@@CarterWills1 “powerful”? Really? This isn’t dragon ball. Their just more emotionally intelligent than regular empaths apparently.
I used to be a dark empath.
But then I turned the light on. Now I'm such a light empath that I'm afraid I might float away. Lol
Jokes aside. I like the video. I used to date a Covert narcissist and your videos helped me with the confusion and feeling of going insane I experienced from the relationship. Same with Richard Grannon and Dr. Ramani. (Pretty sure I misspelled both of their names. If so I'll come back and edit 😁) these videos helped get me on the path towards escaping her. Had to teach myself that I lacked the ability to help her and that she wouldn't accept it from me.
I'm still on the path of finding the parts of me she took and making progress even tho it's not easy. the road of progress is uphill and at times steeper than I think I can handle. But in those moments videos like yours help me tighten my laces and keep going.
Thank you.
Ah, this is another high quality video. 👏
I was a dark empath and my bf was a narc, during covid lockdown we had conflicts and did alot of discussions about our flaws and how we're affected by it in which we luckily ended up becoming our best version. Now I feel like many of my friendship became healthy after that, even my bond with parents strengthened bc of that conversation
Neat XD
So glad you both grew and ended up helping one another
@@MissMoontree Maybe people are self diagnosing their own mental sphere. The commentor might just be an empath with some dark qualities, but insufficient to be considered a dark empath, and the bf might not be a full narcissist, maybe he just has some narcissistic tendencies in some things.
Having dark qualities doesn’t mean anything bad, as the word dark might be misused here.
You both had traits. That's why you could change. Were you both into a full-blown disorder you wouldn't even be around here. Glad you both changed.
I rlly wish people will stop self-diagnose themselves
The league of legends reference took me completely by surprise. Draven is something beyond narcists
Agreed
Spot on. I can relate to the dark empath aspect of this dynamic. Currently “dating” a narcissist who claims to be aware he has narcissistic tendencies yet does little to change. I’m no better mind you. The relationship is a toxic charade clouded in secrecy. At first it was fun because I allowed him to be his asshole self and he could tell I wasn’t so sweet either. Then I started calling him out in his behavior, pointed out his errors and broke off the contact cause I wasn’t getting the attention I wanted. I deserved more.
Fun part is we work at the same office from time to time. We knew we could bump into each other anytime. And when we did I could tell he would do anything to get his way. I have my share of gifts to prove it.
This cycle of running and chasing eventually became boring to me. We both aren’t willing to do the work and it’s like we’ve figured each other out. I’ve learned a lot through this relationship. At a certain point I knew this connection could become harmful to the both of us. The resentment started to set in and I actually don’t want to hurt him. Yet somehow I do. I want him to feel how he’s made me feel at times. He’s falling in love with me and I’m falling out of like with him. I can’t fake the feelings and I’m sensing he’s picking up on that.
I want to have an honest conversation yet I fear he’s going to fight for it. And I don’t want to fight. I just want to be left alone and move on. There’s so much about myself I saw in him that I know needs changing. And it feels so scary yet so necessary.
You forgot that narcissists do not fall in love.(and this is not how narcissists behave) ;) so he is not narcissist and you are just a typical woman :)
Broo this is literally me (dark empath) and my step mom (narcissistic)!! Omg Thk you for this video I needed it!
This opened up my eyes hardcore. I see traits of both in my personality. Doesn’t feel nice. I needed this video though. I’ve been wanting to become a better me and now I know what to work on more 🙏🏽 I appreciate this. Thank you
If you really were one of the both, you wouldn't feel any remorse from it. So there's still hope for you.
Anyone who isn't a saint has had moments of selfishness and manipulation, and if you don't think so, well... That's what probably makes you a narcissist. lol Otherwise it's just called being human if it isn't your entire life.
neither would ever admit to themselves that they are one or the other.
@@Gladuos1 nigga wha-
*Yes. Their battle will be legendary.* 🗡🛡
And legendary it was.
@@Psych2go *The battle will never stop.*
THAT WAS SUCH A BANGING GABBER TUNE BACK IN THE 90 ‘ S … I USED TO DANCE MY ASS OFF TO IT …
OH NO FORGET IT 🤦🏻♀️- EDIT : YOUR SUFFERING WILL BE LEGENDARY , EVEN IN HELL …
@@MelanieMacDonalDMELSPLAYLISTS NO TEARS NOW. IT'S A WASTE OF GOOD SUFFERING.
@@Mii.2.0 it'll probably stop with the narcissist either moving away or in intense therapy because dark empaths don't really have any weaknesses a narcissist can exploit a narcissist however has one huge weakness their ego
My mother is narcissist and she always have things her way. even after 25 years she doesn't change and I may grew up resenting her. But since I'm the only reliable child to take care of her, I may have outgrown my emphaty to fit her personality. Im not sure I turned into a dark empath but somewhat have the traits. it's more manageable to control my mother that way. and now I'm able to take almost full control of my mother and use her onto others easily due to her always remembering me as someone easy to be stepped on.
These animations are so good
I’ve met a narcissist and a dark empath in fact they are in a relationship and they are actually working together. It is scary but I can still pick out some manipulation they do to each other. It’s really hard to imagine there are people in the world who actually act this.
You don’t need to imagine, there are many people like this and most people have some of their traits. I suggest you become more aware of how people truly are.
@@CarterWills1 yeah, I’ve finally become aware, you just don’t notice it at first because they are just hiding but then their true colours shows and it changes everything. I have become aware more lately thanks to those two people.
Happy for them
How are they getting along?
@@Psych2go it’s a really strange relationship I must say, and rare for these types of people to get along, but I have notice some manipulations they’ve done in their relationship, for example: “if you don’t do this I’ll hurt myself” that’s what the say to each other a lot of the time when one person doesn’t do what the other person wants, so they try to make their partner feel bad, etc. I try to stay out of it best as I can.
Nacrisisst VS Dark Empath: The Ultimate Showdown
I am a dark empath and this is true what a great video good job 😊
Yes my father is a narc and I’ve had others in my life that walked the line of narcs and dominance to a fault.
I find it so wild how they are so clueless of their own actions. And how blaming overs, not wiling to listen, and so on. How they are still able to make by in life?
Growing up my father always got away: had a headache, was tired, was in a mood, I was being to sensitive, his way or the highway. And was hurt many times by his absence and lack of awareness in general. Now that some 20 years have passed I’m seeing with new clarity just how toxic he is. And it makes me sick. But instead I get to reparent myself and try to find myself after all the years of emotional abuse and general neglect… wooo 🤘🏼
Have I ever come in contact with a dark empath or a narcissist? Well, the real questions I'm asking is, "am I a dark empath?" "is she a narcissist or a dark empath?" and "doesn't most people have some if not all of the characteristics or at least capable of such behaviors when face with either the opportunity and/or situation?" I'm rather empathetic but I'm also a skilled, cool underpressure liar when I need to be. Not maliciously or maliciously manipulative, just do it to protect myself or someone's feelz. Still wrong but with good intentions 🤥🤫😉
the difference is if you find yourself doing it on the daily, multiple times.
I do it to get a desired outcome of non-conflict, compliance, and peacefulness.
Just got a friend of mine out of a relationship with a true narc, by finding information about him cheating on his wife (my friend). He has been caught before, but not by me.
And this time was the last time.
I predicted his moves, and told his wife what he was going to say before he did.
Got that straightened out, and now onto the next person who needs help XD
You kinda just described me and mother and this is becoming so much more scary to think how much more she could manipulate me
Huh. This was very helpful. Thank you.
As someone who grew up in a neglecting and abusive household then ended up living on the streets I sadly became a dark empath due to survival reasons I didn't want to manipulatie people I had to in order to survive. :/
Now I have my own home and I'm doing everything I can to become a genuine empath and build genuine relationships because manipulation always backfires in one way or another and leaves you very lonely :/ so if you are thinking about manipulating, threatening or hurting other people even for survival reason DON'T.
Instead be genuine and moral towards everybody who deserves it.
It will get you allot futher in life!
This video explains my entire relationship with my ex. I was the dark empath. Pretty much did everything for him to jumpstart his life. Paid rent bills bought him a car etc. I just didn’t want him to leave me. I deeply care about others and want to help them - but hate when people take advantage. If you cross me, I get angry because I hate when people just take from you. So I’m usually giving towards people I love and a good cause. I used every trick in the book to make him stay. As the Video goes, he still left lol and I deserved it. Play silly games, win silly prizes. I am now working on building back up my self esteem and do not abuse people. Love yourself First! 💞
I don't think you are dark empath. It feels like you are full empath. A dark empath would have been manipulating and altering the behavior of a narcist at every input they have in their life more from a mental perspective.
@@satisfysmack9935 I was doing this 100%. I learned all his mannuerisms and insecurities and would throw them in his face when needed. I was pretty crappy and he was pretty naive lol.
So what did you do to make him leave if you say that you "deserved it'? And if we follow *your claim* it was your fault after all.
This sounds like a very one sided game of chess where the dark empath is constantly winning but its still interesting because everyone has heard of the narcissist and this random person is dominating them so its kind of cool
This helped me understand my interaction just recently ☺️🤣 thanks
I watch these videos because I sincerely hope that people here and the creators intentions are to spread awareness and information into understanding personality traits and disorders. It saddens me sometimes when I see comments that look up people with mental issues as scary or detriments to society. Being someone who has ADHD, I feel like I am severally misunderstood sometimes and look for nurturing/fostering environments to help support how I feel. I dont wanna be alone in sharing my knowledge and feel like an outcast... when In general I am not trying to be this harmful thing or person to society, It hurts inside to be misunderstood. I really do wish these videos are spreading awareness in a positive way to better people, including how/who to find help from if you have mental disorders and positive outlets to live a full successful life. (And even a road to recovery)
I love this video! It has opened my eyes to what my personality traits are. I thought I was an empath for a long time, but I now see that I am a Dark Empath. For me, these traits fluctuate depending on the situation or individuals I am dealing with. Without a doubt, I am a Dark Empath, and thank you for doing these videos. I absolutely love them! Oh, btw, the artwork is badass!
Thank you for supporting!
What the fk do you do as a dark empath? What does that mean?
@@alexjulius69 Watch the video broseph, lol.
@@stevenforehand2562 Basically what you're saying is that you don't know yourself, otherwise you could've easily explained it in one sentence.
@@alexjulius69 it means they can read emotions and care about others but aren’t doormats and aren’t above manipulating too. Their empathic is strategic.
I love how accurate this is. It will never be anything more than an “encounter”
it will be an encounter like the Jotaro-Dio arc was an encounter
STANDO POWA!!!
@@sams_enfp cool reference!
One of the most fun matchups in this meta 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥