PMDG 737 | REAL BOEING PILOT | Procedural Approach Tutorial
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2017
- Have you ever been given those dodgy radar vectors provided by FSX ATC and ended up hitting the side of a mountain? Want to know how we fly a procedural approach in the 737? Next time you fly IFR request a procedural approach direct to the beacon and follow the guidance in this tutorial!
Procedural Approaches allow airports to accept IFR flights without Ground Radar and although less efficient at getting planes on the ground quickly due to separation requirements they are still used at several airports around the world with and without Radar.
This tutorial covers the ILS X Procedural Approach onto RW28 in Bergamo (LIME/BGY) using my companies operating procedures.
Live WX used in Tutorial (LIME RW28 290/7 9999 CAVOK 21/5 1015)
As I always stress my tutorials contain procedures based on my 4000 hours experience and what I instruct in a full motion Level D sim for my operator. Other operators/tutorials might show you a different procedure or setup based on different operating procedures.
Any questions feel free to ask!
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All guidance in my tutorials are based on operating procedures from a real operator, I have almost 4000 hours on the 737-800 (The real one) and I'm also a full-time Instructor working in a full motion Level D simulator.
The aim of this channel is to provide realistic, informative and useful information to help you enhance your flight simulation experience by following me apply real world operating procedures in the PMDG NGX.
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Addons Used:
FSX Steam Edition
PMDG 737 NGX
FSX Active Sky Next
REX 4 Texture Direct
EZdok Version 2
Freeware Scenery for LIME/BGY - scigherafsx.blogspot.co.uk/201... - Hry
Amazing video! I'm an ATPL student and your videos are so insightful; It's nice to see the theory I'm learning being translated into practice.
Hi Owen, thanks!
One thing is reading it all, putting it all into practice is something completely different!
FD2S
Another excellent tutorial - please keep them coming!
Thanks FD2S, just the video i was looking for, for a procedural appr 👍
So I've now watched all the videos you've uploaded so far and they are really good with lots of interesting information so once again, thanks for taking the time!
Thanks Richard! Expect a new tutorial very soon!
Another informative video, thanks.
Thanks! You makes very good videos
Excellent. Like every time, thanks à lot men !
Another excellent video. Many thanks.
Ohkey .. This is what I was wondering that flying over destination airport !
lovely stuff
I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot as to the how and why
Thanks DogTag Gamer!
FD2S
you are awesome keep up the good work!
All extremely educational videos, thanks.
You're welcome 911logic
FD2S
I really enjoy your videos keep it going
Thanks Ethan!
FD2S.
Amazing video and landing! Very helpful and informative, as I am learning how to do different approaches and landing because all I know how to do is an ils. (Btw, I’m not sure if over 80% reverse thrust was necessary, maybe next time only use about 40%, that’s all you need on a longish runway)
Lovely ... As usual !
Thanks Jellybert, glad you enjoyed it!
FD2S
Really excellent and informative just love all of your videos a real challenge to emulate thanks for your time knowledge and trouble.
Rollerball
Thanks for another great video. Your Descent management tutorials have helped me no end! I always found it hard to judge the approach and end up low or levelling off before glide slope capture for fear of being too high. Certainly more satisfying to fly a CDA without messing it up. Notice you have never needed or bother with the FPA V/B V/S on the descent page of the CDU. Do you ever use this?
Even he buttered the runway he says not bad lol
My experience with the pmdg is that it descents very well at high speed. I like to flch almost everytime to minimise the use of speedbrakes. So basically descent steeply and then align when reducing. But I'm not a pilot :p
Thanks, your movies are big stuff.
Thanks Jeen, hope you learnt something new!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim yes, l was always wandering how a cold start procedure works exact the way you pilots do. And yes I saw new things. But that is in every movie you upload. A big thanks
Kind regards Jeen
love it, I noticed those procedure turn are quite different in the UK than in Canada, we do more like racetrack or hockey stick, is the FMS able to fly those also?
Hi Ram, thanks!
I've never seen a 45/180 procedure turn in Europe. If it's programmed in the FMC and the approach is approved for a Category C aircraft then there should be no problem!
FD2S.
Great Video, what camera program are you using?
Thanks James.
I use EZDOK v2
FD2S
Amazing video.
Just have one question, what is the difference between ILS X, Y and Z approach? Thanks
Thanks a lot gpinho7!
You'll find different designators (X,Y, Z) usually when they have different approaches to establish onto the ILS and/or different missed approach procedures based on different navigational aids.
FD2S
When u started pilot training, did u know anything about aircraft? Great video btw!
Well I started learning to fly I had some good background knowledge and thanks!
FD2S
Hello FD2S,
Thanks for the response. I use EZDOK to. In your tutorials is that a good pilots eye view? I ask you this question because it is hard to find on google. So you can just see on the top of the glare shield and how far from it on a scale view between 0.60 and 1. Maybe a strange question but it is fun to have the most realistic settings and fly experience. It is great fun to watch your movies I see them over an over. THANKS
Kind regards Jeen
What I have set now is the best I can get to replicate the correct seating position in the aircraft taking the limitations of a desktop simulator into account.
Good Luck!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim Thank you FD2S keep up the good work. And have a great old years evening and happy new year.
Kind regards Jeen
Were do you search schematic approach??
How to set up this kind of procedure in FMC? and how would clearance from atc look like? :)
Who is publisher of charts you use in your videos?
Thanks a lot for your helpful videos. I have one question. If we have a glideslope angle for instance 3.40 degrees, are the distances for flaps configurations remain the same or we should decrease the speed in advance?
Hi Ruslan, you’re most welcome.
The 10nm Flap 1 and 4nm Gear down are targets but by no means mandatory, pilot flying has the sole discretion to configure when he pleases. If you have a strong tailwind on final (even 3 degrees) you might want to drop the gear/flap way sooner.
3.4 once established would definitely need Flap 5, if not Flap 10 to maintain speed.
Good luck!
FD2S
10:10 I almost called out loud “10000 ft. below essential communications only” then I realized I was watching a PC Sim....
Please make a video about how to go to the alternate aerodrome correctly. In this case the dispatcher vectorizes, or it is necessary to build a new plan? If both options, then tell about both.
Hi Вова.
Yeah that would be quite an easy tutorial to make, you might get both vectored or be given routing via waypoints to an alternate airfield.
I'll see what I can do in the next couple of week and I'll post a link to this comment once it's uploaded!
Take care!
FD2S
Great video ! Hey what is the lowest vert speed You can descent to legally keep cda ?
Thanks Piotr Kuler!
Ideally we'll always try to achieve an idle thrust CDA. If needs be and we get really low we could set a V/S of -50fpm if really low, so long as we don't Level off! It will vary from country to country, some airports monitor CDA compliance as well.
A link which you might find useful!
www.eurocontrol.int/sites/default/files/publication/files/2011-cd-brochure-web.pdf
Good Luck!
flightdeck2sim
Really Thanks :)
I like your tutorials a lot. But I have a question that has nothing to do with flying the 737. Can you make a screen shot of what your eyes see when your sitting in a 737. I want to know how I configure my virtual cockpit in a way what you pilots see when sitting in the chair of your plane for takeoff are landing. How high in the chair and how far from the glare chield
Kind regards Jeen
Hi Jeen,
I have positioned the most realistic eye point using EZDOK for all my tutorials. In the real aircraft you want to be able to just see the top of the glareshield.
FD2S
Hi man, a bit of a noob question... How do you know on charts or on the displays or even fmc what the localiser is and what altitude you have to be to intercept it?
Hi Gilles
There will be waypoints in the FMC that corresponds to waypoints on the approach, you have to locate and identify those points yourself!
There is no specific height to intercept the localiser from, so long as it's established by the landing gate.
FD2S
Could you also do a tutorial on a raw data approach?
Hi Eink! Sounds good!
So if you're landing at smaller regional airports where the taxi time is less than 5 minutes so you stay the APU while on approach or until after touchdown?
Hi Muhamed.
No need to start on the Approach, we start the APU after touchdown and we aim to get it on the "bus" by the time we taxi onto stand 👍🏼
FD2S
Sometimes on the FMC there is the options for ILS X, Y, or Z for one runway... what is the difference? Thanks.
Hi Joe,
Usually when they have different approaches to establish onto the ILS and/or different missed approach procedures based on different navigational aids.
FD2S.
Hello,
why did you draw 4nm and 10nm circles on FIX page? Thanks.
Hi Frank,
We use the fix rings to increase our situation awareness and we have company specific SOP's regarding its use.
They're based on the LDG RWY
X1 x3 Altitude Ring. We multiply our CRZ by x3. E.g. If cruising at FL370 we'd have a 111nn ring, this roughly will correspond with TOD
X1 10nm ring. The latest point at which we can select Flap 1
X1 4 or 5nm ring. The point st which we select Gear Down, Flap15.
FD2S
Thank you for your hints.
Another very informative video. Thanks for helping me take my flying to a new level. Can you explain what a "flag" is when you say no flags on approach? Thanks!
Thanks!
It's relating to the standby ISFD to confirm there are no flags or messages displayed.
All the best!
flightdeck2sim
So I wanted to choose an ILS approach, but I saw some different approaches too, like: LLZ 26. What does that mean because as long as I know it was VOR and ILS.
Edit: I knew there was VOR/LOC but apparently there's also LOC/DME. Could you explain that to me?
Also I see that you're not engaging the VOR/LOC before engaging the APP. When do you have to do that and when not?
Hi Leo.
ILS is made up of two parts, localiser and glide path. LLZ or LOC approaches is just the localiser, you have to descend using a different pitch mode as there is no Glide Path available.
VOR/LOC is a mode in the 737 which allows you to track to/from a VOR or localiser.
DME is short for distance measuring equipment which is usually co-located with a glide path
APP engage before VOR/LOC and G/S for an ILS.
FD2S
Thank you very much for your answer.
How do you know if there is a glide path or not, so how do you know which kind of approach you have to choose?
It will be on the chart LOC only if there was no glide path
FD2S
Thank you!
The FMC is the one thing stopping me from flying modern heavy metal! It's too much to deal with.
Like anything it takes practice then more practice. It really is worth the effort as all modern large aircraft use an FMC. Or you could just fly the 727, a very nice aircraft to operate. I flew one IRL for 3 years, it sharpens your basic flying skills hand flying a large jet with no autothrottle (and no autopilot below about FL100) 🙂.
FD2S Whats the second ILS Category
Fly with TB500 in a nutshell CAT II ILS has lower minima and would typically be flown as an Autoland. The rest of the info you can find easily online!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim no, I mean the aircraft ILS Category
Do you mean what category ILS can the 737-800 fly to??
FD2S
nice! i made a video going to dubai to auckland not that long ago can you check it out and tell me what you think about need some tips
Thank you for this very informative video!
You're welcome Jeremy, thanks!
FD2S