If you are new to the channel here’s a response I left to one of the comments that explains my philosophy on cameras as a whole. I’m just a guy that likes cameras. This is like the one video I didn’t leave my general disclaimer. Look it’s not up to me to fix how a product is shipped. If a product is sold for full retail price it should do everything it says on the box without a firmware update. There could be bugs or glitches, stuff happens from time to time. But features not working without updating is a manufacturers problems. I provide an honest opinion about the experience of what you could expect if you were to buy this camera yourself. And like I say in the video I actually like this little camera but I wouldn’t recommend it right now as it’s essentially in beta mode for full retail price. Which is absolutely not ok. The camera was white balanced to daylight for every shot in the video, it decides that even when manually set to daylight to continue to move around the kelvin for reasons. But to give Z Cam the benefit of the doubt I’ve actually now upgraded to .83 (still beta firmware for full price) and the app still doesn’t work. The autofocus now actually works which is great but again if it says it on the box when it’s sold for full retail price that feature should already work. And from the other videos I’ve seen this camera original shipped with .80. 🤷♂️
Cameras didn’t need firmware updates maybe 10 years ago all of the new cameras from your gh5, eva1, arri Amira, and even then canon 5d mk4.. this is normal. That way of thinking is dated just like the firmware on your E2. Update the firmware, take this down, and re-edit it with experience using a standard setup that the other E2 users are experiencing. This film is outright misleading.
The Everyday Dad my a6300 camera couldn’t record more than 5 minutes of 4k before overheating on the original firmware... that’s coming from SONY. You make it sound like Z cam is a unheardof company who makes untrue claims.. Sony who is “trusted” does the same thing but worse!
You know what was a total waste of time? YOUR unboxing of the cam and it shows by the like/dislike ratio. He doesn't owe anything to YOU to do what you want him to do. You have the camera; you don't need his opinion.
I usually respect your perspective as the "everyday dad" because even if you make mistakes it adds to your content, but I will say I do not agree with these statements. The first thing I do when I receive any type of tech is check to see if there is a firmware update. Especially on my cameras. Almost all of the cameras I've owned from big companies have required firmware updates to patch issues and bugs or even give the camera new features. The ZCam is not a Beta camera and I feel like that down plays just how capable this camera is. I've had way worse firmware issues with my Sony cameras and unlike Sony ZCam has proved they will fix issues where Sony sometimes leaves issues in their cameras through model changes! If this isn't something you regularly do I suggest checking for updates on all of your equipment! You might have new features you didn't even know about!
Hi! I'm founder of Z CAM. I'm sorry for lack of instructions on how to operate on the camera and that leads to the problem that you can't get some features work. Here are some comments on the features you mentioned in this clip: 1. CAF(continous auto focus). It works and we have a lot of optimization on firmware 0.83. Before this version CAF only works when you start to record. It won't work in preview and I guess that's why you think it won't work. We added human detection in 0.83 which will try to focus on human when it's enabled. It adds a lot of usability for focusing. 2. For iOS apps it seems that by default iOS will disable the app's permission to use wifi and that's why you can't get it connected. It seems that if you have this problem you need to manually give the camera app permission to do it. 3. We have auto white balance and I'm sure it works well in auto mode. 4. We have a facebook group named: Z CAM E2 for people to discuss the camera and you are welcome to join this group. We share the development status and plan all the time and we listen to users to improve the features. 5. We are releasing ProRes in new firmware soon since we just passed Apple's certification program and that will be listed on Apple's website as well. Our multiple camera live streaming software is in beta phase which enables up to 16 x 1080P streaming with a computer. With a laptop it can do 4-6 streamings.
Jason, Thanks so much for the comment! I do really appreciate you reaching out. My only real big suggestion is to include a better instruction manual in the box. I actually really like the promise of your camera (and mention it in the video) I’ve used much bigger and more complicated cameras before and never had the issues getting things to work that I did here. So while you have the knowledge make it easier for people instead of putting it in a Facebook group (as more an more people begin to delete their Facebook accounts). That or have a better instruction guide on your website. Seriously I think you guys are doing great things I just can’t recommend something that’s not at a 1.0 release to my audience.
@@TheEverydayDad Thanks! If you have any problem please contact us directly. For each user in our facebook group we actively help on nearly all the questions/issues.
Jason Zhang will you guys going to make a bmpcc4k competitior? With a better display for viewing (that you can flip around for vloggers) and longer battery life than bmpcc4k also adding aoption for a encoding to take lesser storage space, i love to see them on z cam e3.
Luxia Productions wasn’t included in that version’s firmware (I kid I kid sorry everyday dad - your stuff has gotten better and better but this one was slacking)
Finally a review of this camera! I just ordered one after being on their Facebook group for a while. Fantastic support and community. I own a BMCC 2.5k and frequently rent an old RED Scarlet MX from a friend. Super excited to see what this camera can do. From what I've heard and been seeing from users I might not be renting that old Scarlet as much after owning this camera. Can't say for certain yet whether or not that will be true, but it sure seems like a killer deal for the price. Great video as always! P.S. You might want to check if you are on the latest firmware. CAF seems to have been worked on.
That’s awesome! I hope you enjoy it when you get it. I’ve gotta be honest the sensor in this camera is really impressing me. My real only complaints about the camera are the app, the autofocus, and the ssd recording but besides that it’s frankly awesome.
@@TheEverydayDad Yeah I've seen similar complaints from other users. I hardly ever use autofocus, but could definitely see how it would be a downside compared to other cameras in this price range (Especially the DSLR and Mirrorless options). SSD recording is a big thing for me, but they have really been impressing me on the FB group with doing constant testing with different SSD solutions and releasing firmware updates for compatibility. I have a feeling SSD recording will have less compatibility issues fairly soon. They have posted about which SSDs they have tested that work so it might be worth checking out the group.
I think I like the range of this outside.. the GH5 was super bright while the Z Cam looked even all around... I tried their original tiny camera years ago.. I think I still have it 🤔
Yeah both were set to the same f stop and aperture but I feel the z cam did better with the direct sunlight. I’ll mention this money but the sensor in the E2 handles light better then the GH5 in my opinion.
I can't figure out if this comment is pure sarcasm or for real.... You must be kidding? Aren't u? If not please tell me. What did you find more interesting about the e2, try to convince the same way you are..
@@ghoutilakhdar3132 Um, 120fps @ 4k? 240fps @1080? I'd have to agree, I don't see why that's surprising. It costs more, but if you have the budget it's an easy choice IMO.
Yeah it works really well. I’ll say this more in Friday’s video but the sensor inside of the E2 handles sunlight really well. I feel like even my gh5 goes from properly exposed to THE SUN BURNS really quick but the E2 held the information much better.
Skyler Li That’s weird. I literally just had one of my subscribers ask about a car in one of my videos. I really don’t know anything about them. Are they the funny looking cars?
I’ll have a part starting in Wednesday’s video with the most up to date firmware. But I would hope that a camera sold for full retail price works out of the box without needing a Facebook group for tech support.
@@TheEverydayDad You are absolutely correct that the manuals are lacking, and that Z-Cam isn't getting information/software on to their website anywhere near fast enough. I am on the Facebook group, but I don't see it as tech support (although it is a great place to report bugs), so much as a place to share information. I don't consider this camera Beta (it's autofocus in the first firmware was better than a GH5 when it came out for instance), but rather a camera whose capabilities are going to continue to develop along side mine.
Take it from the “non-professional” expert (TEDD). 😆 Looks like a kinda nice camera! Postnote: if your camera needs a cage, it’s probably too wild to handle!😂 Good stuff!👍
Returning to this video years later this is camera has turned out to be one of the best cameras on the market! still not one of the most popular, but I'm definitely getting the M4 version soon!
Howdy! Thanks for all of your awesome vids! Now that the camera has gone through firmware updates is the autofocus working? I've watched other vids of the camera and autofocus does work but it's not the best but hopefully still usable for youtube studio work where there 's no need for tracking and such.
Reds arent just for high fps and resolution. The minimum Ive seen them shoot is like 12 bit raw and have 16+ stops of dynamic range. This can only do 10 bit no raw. and the difference between 10 and 12 is almost as massive as the 8 to 10 jump. And the dragon sensor can do 5k 96fps. Thats double the resolution on only 24fps slower. This is a good deal for sure but doesn't even cover 90 percent of why you would get a red or arri alexa.
This is more akin to a gh5 fuji xt3 and a bmpcc4k in terms of technical specs. but until it offers raw and 12 bit it will be noticeable in the quality drop from a red or arri
Not quite a RED but I must say if Atomos teams up with ZCAM and offer “PRORES RAW” via Ninja V or later model this camera would instantly jump to another level
I encourage you to upgrade the firmware. When I received my E2, I didn't not have any issue with focus, wifi, etc. I was able to shoot right out of the box like any other camera.
PRORES RAW: So glad you posted this. Any word on if the E2 and Atomos will offer prores raw ???? That would take this camera to an entirely new level and I for 1 would buy it. 120fps at 4K in prores raw is a game changer
I mean you can put the title cinema in front of anything. I had a C200, still shot in 30fps. These aren't movies and they aren't soap operas so 24 and 60 are kinda meh in my opinion.
On some cameras, continuous autofocus only works while recording internally (iiirc the G7 is like that). Did you test autofocus while recording internally ?
I did, no matter what I do the continuous autofocus wont work. I figured it might be recording required but it didn’t work, and I thought it might be the ok button as a kind of shutter release for focus but that also didn’t work.
i think this camera makes sense only if you really use the 12ofps 4k a lot, like action cam, cars etc. otherwise a bmpcc 4k is half the price and does 60fps 4k raw. in euro the e2 goes for 2500 euro body, if you nu atmos will be around 3500 euro.
I'm thinking of getting three of these for live events, would be great to see some side by side comparisons and low light comparisons? Good review though.
It looks like the camera shipped with .82. Does the autofocus only work when recording? I tried that but it wouldn’t change anything. Also is there some trick to get the app to work? I’ve got the WiFi from my phone connected to the camera but the app refuses to connect.
Thank you for posting. I hear many people complaining that the firmware on many Z cameras need improvement before they release the cameras. Though I understand the updates are complete by this time or in process. But yes, Z cam should probably hold their gear back by a month or two for firmware fixes before shipping. (Just a hint Z cam if your listening) because it blows the first impressions. I would work with it as a cinema camera with MF lenses.. so most of your issues would have no bearing on how I would work it. I understand it has prores raw now, but there is/was some issues with HDMI output 4K prores raw? Anyway I’m sure Z cam will fix many of these issues, but they have so many cameras coming out, I hope they really address the firmware upgrades/updates fast.. since at this point every review is talking about what is not working on them... and though fair at the time, we viewers might be getting an overly negative image since the firmware might be updated already. Ok.. now to see if you have a follow up video if they did an update. :)
Great video! I'm curious though. What firmware are you running? That's kind of important since the Z Cam E2 hasn't reached v1.0. This is not an excuse for your experience. The camera should work as claimed and as expected but I hope you recognize that any version before v1.0 should be considered as an early adoption. Z Cam is barely at firmware v0.83. They have lots of work to do!
This was running .82. After this video came out and everyone commented on the firmware I’ve since upgraded it to .83. And I don’t really mind upgrading firmware but my problem is that it sells for full retail price without all of the features promised unlocked. The app still doesn’t work with .83 either 😭
I don’t get it. You claim to love video, and are excited about the prospect of a 120fps 4K camera, but you spend 15 minutes talking about “fiddlyness”, filming on standard “auto colors” and never showing the high frame rate. I’m not trying to sound like a dick here, but why make the video then? And why that title? I didn’t learn anything about the potential of the camera. Most people watching this are probably looking for a cinema camera on a budget, so we’ll want to know how it grades and how the slowmo looks. Does it even have flat profiles? Could you film with those, slap on a LUT and show something - anything - involving the cameras strengths?
I don’t make full camera reviews. I do impressions to give someone that is looking for a specific piece of gear my opinion what their experience might be in their first couple days of ownership. Does it work, can it do what it claims to do on it’s packaging/promotional material. Can it help out an online content creator with a quick production timeline? If that’s not for you, that’s totally cool, I don’t aim to make content for professional filmmakers. There are plenty of other channels out there for that 👍
The Everyday Dad Yeah, I’m just sad to see that lack of content for this specific camera. The 4K 120fps is the big WOW-factor, but hardly anyone making videos about it gives any insight into what this could look like with some planning and grading. Obviously this would not be your first choice when it comes to CZcams blogging, so why is there so little focus on music videos, commercial use, short films etc.? Very weird.
I can’t speak for everyone but for me specifically I feel that there are a lot of experts out there talking to experts but I don’t feel there are enough regular people talking to regular people about cameras. So I try to bring a perspective from a two year online content creator to others that would like to do the same. I leave the professional uses to others far more qualified 👍
Did they send you the entire camera permanently for a sponsorship? As a CZcamsr who LOVES camera stuff myself, I’ve never really figured that out. Would love to look into it haha.
I hate to ask, but I've looked through your videos and could find what I'm looking for.. but could you do a video on the video settings you used, back when you were using the Lumix G7? Thank you for some awesome video content.
@@TheEverydayDad Thank you very much for your response. I'm new to this type of camera and getting used to or learning all the different settings is overwhelming. Videos like yours helps.
Wished the Website for the ZCam E2 exxplained the WDR setting for 16 stops of Dynamic range. That's crazy HDR capability. Will this be the next Netflix approved camera?
Your back yard look awsome with it...maybe just call people you got it from maybe they can help.....are plug it derectly in computor may work if can .....be cool show footage from park you film fron....be interting to se more about this...fyi.. Love your show
I have been pulling my hair out on which camera to get between z6 and a7iii. I shoot video i am mostly out side in daylight. Since you have both did you see any breaking down of quality on them like when shoot 1080 120p. And do you know what size are the 4k files on the z6 for like 10 mins
@@TheEverydayDad yeah, ND would have done the trick too; the back light was harsh when outdoors with the GH5 at times. Just saying since I hope to upgrade one of these months to either GH5 or Z6; which do you recommend?
What’s the point in sending you a camera that doesn’t really work right. Maybe get all the features actually working along with the app would be better?
TEDD, so you are using wifi. Is it possible to connect to your computer and grab the MAC address. Does it understand DHCP? Also are you sure the Camera is even connecting to your mobile device. Does your iPad talk to it. Firmware current? If you have a computer that can at least ping it, as is see it on a network, that is a good start. Have you contacted the Vendor or B and H for more help? I can't believe a $2000.00 won't connect. It could also be defective. It can happen. Now that would be a bummer. I would love to learn more about this camera. You have me curious that is for sure. Hope you figure this out.
It connects with an iOS app only. No computer connection. And I tried an awful lot of things and couldn’t get it to work. I see that my phone is connected to the WiFi of the camera but the app won’t work from that point on. I tried every step I could think of I don’t think it’s a b and h problem as a z cam app problem.
@@CheeseOnEverything Its quite good. I bought it for videos(not using 4k) and a backup camera when i cant take my sony a7iii with me and it is very good ,specialy for the price:) Get a 22 mm 2.0 lense which is cheap and you also have a very good low light camera:)
I hate how many disclaimers CZcamsr's are pretty much required to say or else they get roasted. I know this isn't your fault but it's getting annoying that our community is that critiquing. I'd like to see some of those guys hop in front of the camera and nail EVERY SINGLE specification to 100% accuracy while keeping the video entertaining.
It has more internal codecs then the gh5. Plus with all the connections on the back this would more easily fit into a pro workflow. But I would still take the gh5 👍
Better dynamic range and a form factor which I much prefer. If you are shooting only video you would be surprised how much nicer it is to shoot on a camera that is made solely for video. Now that is subjective obviously, but to me having more mounting options, I/O ports, and flexibility make my life so much easier going from a DSLR/Mirrorless to a dedicated Cinema Camera.
ha ha such a fantastic looking camera wow walk down the road with this and the crowds would part it looks so profesional but if only they new ha ha. I am old i have been flying cameras since 1971 and top brands to that and in all my years Canon always tells you how to fly it but even now days my grey mater is getting a bit slower so second market guides are always so helpful so have fun with your monster stay safe see ya
In all fairness there is a question mark at the end of the title. And inside the video I say it records it but formatting my ssd to work with the camera then makes it unrecognizable to my iMac pro 🤷♂️
If you are new to the channel here’s a response I left to one of the comments that explains my philosophy on cameras as a whole.
I’m just a guy that likes cameras. This is like the one video I didn’t leave my general disclaimer.
Look it’s not up to me to fix how a product is shipped. If a product is sold for full retail price it should do everything it says on the box without a firmware update. There could be bugs or glitches, stuff happens from time to time.
But features not working without updating is a manufacturers problems. I provide an honest opinion about the experience of what you could expect if you were to buy this camera yourself.
And like I say in the video I actually like this little camera but I wouldn’t recommend it right now as it’s essentially in beta mode for full retail price. Which is absolutely not ok.
The camera was white balanced to daylight for every shot in the video, it decides that even when manually set to daylight to continue to move around the kelvin for reasons.
But to give Z Cam the benefit of the doubt I’ve actually now upgraded to .83 (still beta firmware for full price) and the app still doesn’t work.
The autofocus now actually works which is great but again if it says it on the box when it’s sold for full retail price that feature should already work. And from the other videos I’ve seen this camera original shipped with .80.
🤷♂️
Wow that was a waste of my time... you should update the title to say your review is outdated and not relevant to users willing to use it correctly.
Cameras didn’t need firmware updates maybe 10 years ago all of the new cameras from your gh5, eva1, arri Amira, and even then canon 5d mk4.. this is normal. That way of thinking is dated just like the firmware on your E2. Update the firmware, take this down, and re-edit it with experience using a standard setup that the other E2 users are experiencing. This film is outright misleading.
The Everyday Dad my a6300 camera couldn’t record more than 5 minutes of 4k before overheating on the original firmware... that’s coming from SONY. You make it sound like Z cam is a unheardof company who makes untrue claims.. Sony who is “trusted” does the same thing but worse!
You know what was a total waste of time? YOUR unboxing of the cam and it shows by the like/dislike ratio. He doesn't owe anything to YOU to do what you want him to do. You have the camera; you don't need his opinion.
I usually respect your perspective as the "everyday dad" because even if you make mistakes it adds to your content, but I will say I do not agree with these statements. The first thing I do when I receive any type of tech is check to see if there is a firmware update. Especially on my cameras. Almost all of the cameras I've owned from big companies have required firmware updates to patch issues and bugs or even give the camera new features. The ZCam is not a Beta camera and I feel like that down plays just how capable this camera is. I've had way worse firmware issues with my Sony cameras and unlike Sony ZCam has proved they will fix issues where Sony sometimes leaves issues in their cameras through model changes! If this isn't something you regularly do I suggest checking for updates on all of your equipment! You might have new features you didn't even know about!
Hi! I'm founder of Z CAM. I'm sorry for lack of instructions on how to operate on the camera and that leads to the problem that you can't get some features work.
Here are some comments on the features you mentioned in this clip:
1. CAF(continous auto focus). It works and we have a lot of optimization on firmware 0.83. Before this version CAF only works when you start to record. It won't work in preview and I guess that's why you think it won't work. We added human detection in 0.83 which will try to focus on human when it's enabled. It adds a lot of usability for focusing.
2. For iOS apps it seems that by default iOS will disable the app's permission to use wifi and that's why you can't get it connected. It seems that if you have this problem you need to manually give the camera app permission to do it.
3. We have auto white balance and I'm sure it works well in auto mode.
4. We have a facebook group named: Z CAM E2 for people to discuss the camera and you are welcome to join this group. We share the development status and plan all the time and we listen to users to improve the features.
5. We are releasing ProRes in new firmware soon since we just passed Apple's certification program and that will be listed on Apple's website as well. Our multiple camera live streaming software is in beta phase which enables up to 16 x 1080P streaming with a computer. With a laptop it can do 4-6 streamings.
Jason,
Thanks so much for the comment! I do really appreciate you reaching out.
My only real big suggestion is to include a better instruction manual in the box.
I actually really like the promise of your camera (and mention it in the video)
I’ve used much bigger and more complicated cameras before and never had the issues getting things to work that I did here.
So while you have the knowledge make it easier for people instead of putting it in a Facebook group (as more an more people begin to delete their Facebook accounts).
That or have a better instruction guide on your website.
Seriously I think you guys are doing great things I just can’t recommend something that’s not at a 1.0 release to my audience.
@@TheEverydayDad Thanks! If you have any problem please contact us directly. For each user in our facebook group we actively help on nearly all the questions/issues.
This is what I'm talking about! Engineers are actively participating in discussions about the product and giving thoughtful responses.
This is a great response. Definitely paying attention to this product.
Jason Zhang will you guys going to make a bmpcc4k competitior? With a better display for viewing (that you can flip around for vloggers) and longer battery life than bmpcc4k also adding aoption for a encoding to take lesser storage space, i love to see them on z cam e3.
why is there no 120FPS footage?
Luxia Productions exactly......such stinking clickbait
Luxia Productions wasn’t included in that version’s firmware (I kid I kid sorry everyday dad - your stuff has gotten better and better but this one was slacking)
yeah I don’t understand. he talks about it. but doesn’t show it. and it’s a cinema camera but he’s asking about autofocus? cmon
and slow mo in 1080p 240fps
Bro, did you really not put 120fps footage to video???? 😂
Make Bearly yeah I don’t understand. he talks about it. but doesn’t show it. and it’s a cinema camera but he’s asking about autofocus? cmon
Finally a review of this camera! I just ordered one after being on their Facebook group for a while. Fantastic support and community. I own a BMCC 2.5k and frequently rent an old RED Scarlet MX from a friend. Super excited to see what this camera can do. From what I've heard and been seeing from users I might not be renting that old Scarlet as much after owning this camera. Can't say for certain yet whether or not that will be true, but it sure seems like a killer deal for the price. Great video as always!
P.S. You might want to check if you are on the latest firmware. CAF seems to have been worked on.
That’s awesome! I hope you enjoy it when you get it. I’ve gotta be honest the sensor in this camera is really impressing me. My real only complaints about the camera are the app, the autofocus, and the ssd recording but besides that it’s frankly awesome.
@@TheEverydayDad Yeah I've seen similar complaints from other users. I hardly ever use autofocus, but could definitely see how it would be a downside compared to other cameras in this price range (Especially the DSLR and Mirrorless options). SSD recording is a big thing for me, but they have really been impressing me on the FB group with doing constant testing with different SSD solutions and releasing firmware updates for compatibility. I have a feeling SSD recording will have less compatibility issues fairly soon. They have posted about which SSDs they have tested that work so it might be worth checking out the group.
"old RED Scarlet W "
It is kinda new ish? Maybe you mean say an old RED Scarlet MX??
@@SoundSpeeding Yes you're right! I was just talking with a friend on set about the W and just wrote the wrong thing. Thanks for catching my mess up.
Hi! What's your opinion on the E2 vs BMPCC 4K?
and does SSD recording work on E2?
I think I like the range of this outside.. the GH5 was super bright while the Z Cam looked even all around... I tried their original tiny camera years ago.. I think I still have it 🤔
Yeah both were set to the same f stop and aperture but I feel the z cam did better with the direct sunlight. I’ll mention this money but the sensor in the E2 handles light better then the GH5 in my opinion.
@Tech Examined let me take the E1 off your hands ! I would like to make a teleprompter out of the E1
I like the way "unique beast" sounds. Would make for a fun channel name.
Sounds like a video game challenge 🤣
You should have tested the 4k 120 in your video. Or at least in a situation that utilizes it, action, fast movement scenes.
I actually love the vibrancy of colors the z cam has straight out of the box. Im definitely considering it! Thanks!
Nice one, enjoying this vid. I find this cam more interesting than the BM Pocket 4k cam.
good for you
I can't figure out if this comment is pure sarcasm or for real.... You must be kidding? Aren't u? If not please tell me. What did you find more interesting about the e2, try to convince the same way you are..
@@ghoutilakhdar3132 Um, 120fps @ 4k? 240fps @1080? I'd have to agree, I don't see why that's surprising. It costs more, but if you have the budget it's an easy choice IMO.
4k 120 is intriguing
It is if only it worked 🤣
oh snap, the dynamic range looks good.
Skin tones seem to look very good.
Yeah it works really well. I’ll say this more in Friday’s video but the sensor inside of the E2 handles sunlight really well. I feel like even my gh5 goes from properly exposed to THE SUN BURNS really quick but the E2 held the information much better.
Never heard of this until now, but it sure is interesting haha
Yeah it really is 😁👍
Did I miss the sample of the 4k 120fps footage?
Fun fact: this is the camera used inside top gear’s cars
Wow really? I didn’t know that. 😳
Skyler Li That’s weird. I literally just had one of my subscribers ask about a car in one of my videos. I really don’t know anything about them. Are they the funny looking cars?
Absolutely. Used to be E1 now E2.
@@TheEverydayDad Interesting. I know for The Grand Tour they used GH4 season 1 and was planning on using GH5 for Season 2.
Can we have a part 2 with you testing it with the latest firmware? You should check the Z Cam E2 group on Facebook to talk to them.
I’ll have a part starting in Wednesday’s video with the most up to date firmware. But I would hope that a camera sold for full retail price works out of the box without needing a Facebook group for tech support.
@@TheEverydayDad You are absolutely correct that the manuals are lacking, and that Z-Cam isn't getting information/software on to their website anywhere near fast enough. I am on the Facebook group, but I don't see it as tech support (although it is a great place to report bugs), so much as a place to share information. I don't consider this camera Beta (it's autofocus in the first firmware was better than a GH5 when it came out for instance), but rather a camera whose capabilities are going to continue to develop along side mine.
The concept is GREAT! The body is tiny! Competition for the BMPCC 4K! Obviously they have quite a bit to work on BUT I love the idea!
Great videos man I watch all of them! You helped me buy a camera!!
can you compare z cam vs bmpcc 4k ??
Take it from the “non-professional” expert (TEDD). 😆
Looks like a kinda nice camera!
Postnote: if your camera needs a cage, it’s probably too wild to handle!😂
Good stuff!👍
Psh, a cage is the MOST important part of a camera 🤣
The Everyday Dad Yep! Was supposed a corny joke directed at those who’ve never used anything else than their phones to take pictures. LoL
Yep I saw that, this was my tongue in cheek response.
Returning to this video years later this is camera has turned out to be one of the best cameras on the market! still not one of the most popular, but I'm definitely getting the M4 version soon!
Howdy! Thanks for all of your awesome vids! Now that the camera has gone through firmware updates is the autofocus working? I've watched other vids of the camera and autofocus does work but it's not the best but hopefully still usable for youtube studio work where there 's no need for tracking and such.
shoulda gotten this instead of the gh5s, looks like it has everything I need!
I haven’t used a Gh5s (I use a gh5) but while I like the image quality of the z cam I like the body design and ease of use of the gh cameras better.
The new Z CAM app actually works very well and the Windows and Mac apps are amazing!!
This is like the red camera but for a waaaaaay lower price
Reds arent just for high fps and resolution. The minimum Ive seen them shoot is like 12 bit raw and have 16+ stops of dynamic range. This can only do 10 bit no raw. and the difference between 10 and 12 is almost as massive as the 8 to 10 jump. And the dragon sensor can do 5k 96fps. Thats double the resolution on only 24fps slower. This is a good deal for sure but doesn't even cover 90 percent of why you would get a red or arri alexa.
This is more akin to a gh5 fuji xt3 and a bmpcc4k in terms of technical specs. but until it offers raw and 12 bit it will be noticeable in the quality drop from a red or arri
Not quite a RED but I must say if Atomos teams up with ZCAM and offer “PRORES RAW” via Ninja V or later model this camera would instantly jump to another level
I encourage you to upgrade the firmware. When I received my E2, I didn't not have any issue with focus, wifi, etc. I was able to shoot right out of the box like any other camera.
PRORES RAW:
So glad you posted this. Any word on if the E2 and Atomos will offer prores raw ???? That would take this camera to an entirely new level and I for 1 would buy it. 120fps at 4K in prores raw is a game changer
Internal raw update will come in april/may
Gets cinema camera. Shoots in 30fps. Facepalm.
I mean you can put the title cinema in front of anything. I had a C200, still shot in 30fps. These aren't movies and they aren't soap operas so 24 and 60 are kinda meh in my opinion.
On some cameras, continuous autofocus only works while recording internally (iiirc the G7 is like that). Did you test autofocus while recording internally ?
I did, no matter what I do the continuous autofocus wont work. I figured it might be recording required but it didn’t work, and I thought it might be the ok button as a kind of shutter release for focus but that also didn’t work.
Good stuff dude! I might check this out for fun.
i think this camera makes sense only if you really use the 12ofps 4k a lot, like action cam, cars etc. otherwise a bmpcc 4k is half the price and does 60fps 4k raw. in euro the e2 goes for 2500 euro body, if you nu atmos will be around 3500 euro.
I'm thinking of getting three of these for live events, would be great to see some side by side comparisons and low light comparisons?
Good review though.
We’ll be comparing it against the Nikon z6 on Wednesday and the gh5 on Friday 👍
Wreck Media If you don’t need more than 4K 30fps 10 bit then E2C is not a bad choice for live streaming. It is cheaper and supports PoE.
I have the E2C and the External SSD recording works perfect and the focus is working well so I guess the software was all updated
CAF definitely works. Are you on firmware 0.83?
It looks like the camera shipped with .82. Does the autofocus only work when recording? I tried that but it wouldn’t change anything.
Also is there some trick to get the app to work? I’ve got the WiFi from my phone connected to the camera but the app refuses to connect.
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Thank you for posting. I hear many people complaining that the firmware on many Z cameras need improvement before they release the cameras. Though I understand the updates are complete by this time or in process. But yes, Z cam should probably hold their gear back by a month or two for firmware fixes before shipping. (Just a hint Z cam if your listening) because it blows the first impressions. I would work with it as a cinema camera with MF lenses.. so most of your issues would have no bearing on how I would work it. I understand it has prores raw now, but there is/was some issues with HDMI output 4K prores raw? Anyway I’m sure Z cam will fix many of these issues, but they have so many cameras coming out, I hope they really address the firmware upgrades/updates fast.. since at this point every review is talking about what is not working on them... and though fair at the time, we viewers might be getting an overly negative image since the firmware might be updated already. Ok.. now to see if you have a follow up video if they did an update. :)
Great video! I'm curious though. What firmware are you running? That's kind of important since the Z Cam E2 hasn't reached v1.0. This is not an excuse for your experience. The camera should work as claimed and as expected but I hope you recognize that any version before v1.0 should be considered as an early adoption. Z Cam is barely at firmware v0.83. They have lots of work to do!
This was running .82. After this video came out and everyone commented on the firmware I’ve since upgraded it to .83.
And I don’t really mind upgrading firmware but my problem is that it sells for full retail price without all of the features promised unlocked.
The app still doesn’t work with .83 either 😭
The footage looks great!
Yeah I agree the camera looks fantastic
I don’t get it. You claim to love video, and are excited about the prospect of a 120fps 4K camera, but you spend 15 minutes talking about “fiddlyness”, filming on standard “auto colors” and never showing the high frame rate. I’m not trying to sound like a dick here, but why make the video then? And why that title? I didn’t learn anything about the potential of the camera. Most people watching this are probably looking for a cinema camera on a budget, so we’ll want to know how it grades and how the slowmo looks. Does it even have flat profiles? Could you film with those, slap on a LUT and show something - anything - involving the cameras strengths?
I don’t make full camera reviews. I do impressions to give someone that is looking for a specific piece of gear my opinion what their experience might be in their first couple days of ownership. Does it work, can it do what it claims to do on it’s packaging/promotional material. Can it help out an online content creator with a quick production timeline?
If that’s not for you, that’s totally cool, I don’t aim to make content for professional filmmakers. There are plenty of other channels out there for that 👍
The Everyday Dad Yeah, I’m just sad to see that lack of content for this specific camera. The 4K 120fps is the big WOW-factor, but hardly anyone making videos about it gives any insight into what this could look like with some planning and grading. Obviously this would not be your first choice when it comes to CZcams blogging, so why is there so little focus on music videos, commercial use, short films etc.? Very weird.
I can’t speak for everyone but for me specifically I feel that there are a lot of experts out there talking to experts but I don’t feel there are enough regular people talking to regular people about cameras.
So I try to bring a perspective from a two year online content creator to others that would like to do the same.
I leave the professional uses to others far more qualified 👍
Would love to see you revisit the Z Cam now that they've done a boatload of updates.
Yeah I keep meaning to do an update because there have been some major firmware updates.
Should call it the news report test in this case I think 😁
That’s a good one 🤣 “and now back to the TEDD news network”
This one is pretty interesting. The sensor is from the same family as the GH5 and the Blackmagic Pocket 4K.
Please do a video on the difference between the Z cam and the Sigma FP
Did they send you the entire camera permanently for a sponsorship? As a CZcamsr who LOVES camera stuff myself, I’ve never really figured that out. Would love to look into it haha.
Nope it’s just on loan.
I think this camera can now do 4K 160p with their latest firmware released a few months back. That’s pretty damn crazy.
Lets talk about the 120 fps 4k raw output of the fs700 tho
Did you color grade the video or was that straight out of the camera i reallly love the color.
no slow motion sample footage?
Let's hope this bolsters more competition that drives prices down
Change the title to "I couldn't figure out the 4K 120fps so its not in this video"
I like the GH5 and Cannon cameras for ease of use and lack of fidliness.
Same here, the GH5 is by far one of my favorite cameras 👍
Wow, the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K is an incredible deal.
I'm going to get this or the 6k, but probably this one.
Great videos !!!! Thanks! ;)
Use a higher aperture on your lens to get everything in focus.
I agree, I was trying out the viltrox EF-M2 and sigma 18-35 but it was too shallow for my normal style of video.
I hate to ask, but I've looked through your videos and could find what I'm looking for.. but could you do a video on the video settings you used, back when you were using the Lumix G7? Thank you for some awesome video content.
Like my picture profile settings? When I was using the Lumix g7 everything was set to auto, I never took it out of the auto dial mode.
@@TheEverydayDad
Thank you very much for your response. I'm new to this type of camera and getting used to or learning all the different settings is overwhelming. Videos like yours helps.
Hey everyday dad, what mbps is the bitrate your video is being exported at? even in 4k Im seeing some aliasing on parts of the camera b roll.
Wished the Website for the ZCam E2 exxplained the WDR setting for 16 stops of Dynamic range. That's crazy HDR capability.
Will this be the next Netflix approved camera?
imagine vlogging with it in public lmao people are definitely going to stare at you 😂😂
They would absolutely glare me down. 😂
Did you try the proxy recording? What file type is it? Prores 422 Proxy in 1080p?
dude your awesome and hilarious . I love the vids
Thanks so much! 😁👍
Im 13 my first camera was a t3i i have a 1500 budget for a CINEAM camera do you have any suggestions i do not want a dslr i would like mirrorless
what camera are you filming yourself with? it seems very out of focus...
Your back yard look awsome with it...maybe just call people you got it from maybe they can help.....are plug it derectly in computor may work if can .....be cool show footage from park you film fron....be interting to se more about this...fyi.. Love your show
I have been pulling my hair out on which camera to get between z6 and a7iii.
I shoot video i am mostly out side in daylight. Since you have both did you see any breaking down of quality on them like when shoot 1080 120p.
And do you know what size are the 4k files on the z6 for like 10 mins
me the same here! Camera can detect the human body but so hard to keep on focusing. and the wifi cannot connect with the iphone
Is that a Sony battery; and does it have internal ND filters? One more thing, your glasses go on your head first, not over your hat/cap.
what about continuous auto focus? and sharpness?
sad that there's no raw feature
This camera is so weird that it Broke your toe
not to be critical but the Lumix GH5 video recorded outside looks overexposed/blown out highlights. What's with that?
Like how does overexposure work as a concept or why didn't I have enough ND?
@@TheEverydayDad yeah, ND would have done the trick too; the back light was harsh when outdoors with the GH5 at times. Just saying since I hope to upgrade one of these months to either GH5 or Z6; which do you recommend?
What’s the point in sending you a camera that doesn’t really work right. Maybe get all the features actually working along with the app would be better?
Vlogging with manual focus isn’t that bad, I have a Gh5 and I’ve been manual focusing fine.
is it global shutter?
and yes, windows just doesnot get what ssd recorded, only on mac can do it
which monopod do u used?
The ifootage cobra 2 👍
And where is the 120fps 4K footage ?
Great vid
Thanks, I’m not sure how much you were able to see in the 1 minute its been live but I do appreciate the comment! 😁👍
The Everyday Dad 😂😂 (exposed)
J. Dirt (2001) "Business in the front, party in the back"
TEDD, so you are using wifi. Is it possible to connect to your computer and grab the MAC address. Does it understand DHCP? Also are you sure the Camera is even connecting to your mobile device. Does your iPad talk to it. Firmware current? If you have a computer that can at least ping it, as is see it on a network, that is a good start. Have you contacted the Vendor or B and H for more help? I can't believe a $2000.00 won't connect. It could also be defective. It can happen. Now that would be a bummer. I would love to learn more about this camera. You have me curious that is for sure. Hope you figure this out.
It connects with an iOS app only. No computer connection. And I tried an awful lot of things and couldn’t get it to work. I see that my phone is connected to the WiFi of the camera but the app won’t work from that point on.
I tried every step I could think of I don’t think it’s a b and h problem as a z cam app problem.
Looks like the M50 is still the self-shooter of choice. Compact, DPAF, and a flip screen for $600. 🤷🏽♂️
i kinda want a m50 just to mess around with. It'll be fun to go play around with the M-mount lenses.
@@CheeseOnEverything I got the 11-22 and I love it.
Can't wait for Magic Lantern do their thing with the M50!
@@CheeseOnEverything Its quite good. I bought it for videos(not using 4k) and a backup camera when i cant take my sony a7iii with me and it is very good ,specialy for the price:) Get a 22 mm 2.0 lense which is cheap and you also have a very good low light camera:)
Uhh. 4k 120fps footage where? Kinda need to out some of that in the review if you are gonna talk about it.
Do a review on the Z Cam E2C!
Wait, what? You're on the GH5 and not the z6?
This was one gh5 but the z6 was sitting right next to me 👍
I literally feel broke... 🤦🏽♂️ how do u get all of this!!!??? Lol
My toe literally feels broke 😭
The Everyday Dad 😂😁
Jimmy Hidalgo i know the feeling, man! Let’s hope this year is better! At least, we don’t have broken bones like TEDD!
The Everyday Dad How’s that toe coming along?
Royal Caymanian 😂😂😂 @The Everyday Dad are you using the johnson & johnson band aids?
I hate how many disclaimers CZcamsr's are pretty much required to say or else they get roasted. I know this isn't your fault but it's getting annoying that our community is that critiquing. I'd like to see some of those guys hop in front of the camera and nail EVERY SINGLE specification to 100% accuracy while keeping the video entertaining.
Hahaha you finally got it;-)
What? No drop test?
Ignoring 4k 120, why would you go with something like this (which I find intriguing) over a gh5? Great video Mr 61k.
This can shoot H.265, ProRes and RAW (with firmware update) better dynamic range are probably some good reasons
@@phoenixfunny4517 Thank you.
It has more internal codecs then the gh5. Plus with all the connections on the back this would more easily fit into a pro workflow.
But I would still take the gh5 👍
Look at the gh5 footage versus the e2 in this or in other comparison films..
Better dynamic range and a form factor which I much prefer. If you are shooting only video you would be surprised how much nicer it is to shoot on a camera that is made solely for video. Now that is subjective obviously, but to me having more mounting options, I/O ports, and flexibility make my life so much easier going from a DSLR/Mirrorless to a dedicated Cinema Camera.
Why has no one mentioned the "Global Shutter" Fantastic!
Shows promise.
you should do a review of the canon elph 180
I didnt see any 120 fps samples
Did you have the wifi antenna plugged in?
I did have the antenna plugged it 👍
The quality looks great but also kind of yellow!
ha ha such a fantastic looking camera wow walk down the road with this and the crowds would part it looks so profesional but if only they new ha ha. I am old i have been flying cameras since 1971 and top brands to that and in all my years Canon always tells you how to fly it but even now days my grey mater is getting a bit slower so second market guides are always so helpful so have fun with your monster stay safe see ya
what's going on with the crazy chromatic aberration?
Dont call the video «4k 120 fps» if it is not in the video. It doesnt work? Then THAT should be the name of the video.
In all fairness there is a question mark at the end of the title. And inside the video I say it records it but formatting my ssd to work with the camera then makes it unrecognizable to my iMac pro 🤷♂️
There is a Sony camera that can record 4k at up to 480fps used in the NBA
OMG ~ TRIPLE NATIVE ISO !!!!