Spending 2021 with the Aprilia RS660 | MCN
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Senior Writer Dan spent 2021 riding the Aprilia RS660. Find his full written review here: www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn-mo...
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I could watch Neevesy for hours. What an absolute gem he is for motorcycle enthusiasts
Agree knows what hes talking about and gets to thepoint
I think mcn sell posters of him for your bedroom wall.
@@theonlyredspecial 😂
He is certainly one of the best. So passionate and articulate
Thanks so much to everyone that's watched so far. In relation to the oil drips mentioned, after consulting with Aprilia, the issue was resolved after a quick service and clean once it was returned to the manufacturer. A spokesperson went onto say this would be an easy quick fix at a local dealership. Hope this helps! Ride safe. Dan, MCN.
What was the service? Shifter shaft seal, gasket, loose oil filter or drain plug?
@@craigmatthews5887 I am on an Aprilia owners group and this was a noted problem. One person stated that it was a loose Oil filter plate nut. Easy fix.
@@craigmatthews5887 common problem on older 660 engine - oil filter gasket. Resolved on latest 660 engine editions ( Tuareg for example).
I’d say this is a common issue with many bikes. I have had a honda 650 and a husky 701, both brand new, that leaked oil from the oilfilter gaskets. Just a replacement by myself at home and all good. Hope this is the case for the Aprilia as well
Just one criticism - given this was filmed in October, would've been useful to have at least a footnote on whether those apparent oil drips proved serious and if anything needed to be fixed.
Especially in the context of a long term review, that’s exactly the kind of thing you’d want to know about.
Yeah I was thinking that myself. It was shot two months ago now.
Really nice to hear some 'honest' comments about an Aprilia, they are a bike full of character. Good job guys :)
Great video review. I test rode one last weekend when I was getting my Tuono serviced and I was surprised how much I liked this motorcycle. Plenty of power for the road and was very comfortable too.
Oh man, I'm absolutely loving your videos lately.
These really are so so valuable to people considering new bikes! I remember watching similar when deciding on buying my Ninja 650. Hope to see more of these 👍
This 2021 RS660 is my 4th Aprilia, they all have been extremely reliable (the 2008 RSV1000 had a cam sensor fail). I love the 660 only put 600 miles on it before I put it away for the winter. MCN review is spot on. i ride pretty hard sure hope the rubber lasts longer than 2K. it last longer than that on my 1100 Tuono factory.
Hi do you prefer the tuono factory over the rs660?
Brilliant, great video thank you.
I have one RS660, and have done 4 track days so far. Ifound that all eletronic controls changes were quite noticeable at the tracks, specially traction control.There was a 2 sec lap time difference at Estoril, from modes commute to race engine cut at lean and throttle does not responded as fast, also ABS intrudes a lot. At the streets I found only the throttle response to be clearly noticeable when changing engine maps. So, in my opinion those different set-ups serve the purpose.
The title should be "spending 2021 with the Aprilia rs660"
Thanks, corrected now.
Nice review. I do really like the RS660 but now they've released the Tuono Factory, it'll be interesting to see next year when they presumably release a Factory RS if it's worth it & a genuine upgrade on this.
A lot of so called presenters could learn a lot from Neevsey. A total natural and a pleasure to listen too
Apologies for the error in bike name to start with! Corrected now. Would you take the RS660 over the new Yamaha R7? Comment below!
The oil leak and aprilia customer service put me off from buying one, yamaha is less powerful with literally no electronics and yet my order is already placed for it, because of customer service and reliability
Here in Oz the difference in price between R7 and RS660 is $6000 it almost doesn't make any sense to compare them, funny thing is the panigale V2 costs just $2000 more than aprilia so I am really struggling to make a decision, would anyone advise me wether it is best to get the V2 by paying $2000 more or aprilia rs660 is a better choice also there is question regarding reliability of Ducati vs aprilia and the costs of repair and parts, an advice would be appreciated
@@Las0787 Yamaha is better that the Recall Aprilla 660. Plus less maintenance than that Aprilla.
depends if one wants a "drippin' hot" half an engine of a sportsbike or a bike that doesn't even have a sportsbikeframe since it is a roadbike w fairings... so neither nor :D
@@Nick-hp2ul buy the V2!!..I’m in the UK and have had an 899 Panigale from new 2014 and it’s not had an easy life, I’ve got over 28,000 miles on it now and it’s been faultless 👍 for your extra $2000 aud, your getting almost 50% more power and it sounds a lot better than the parallel twin in the Aprilia.
I’ve spent a bit on the 899, BST carbon wheels, K-TEC shock etc and it’s fantastic to ride, I’m struggling to think of anything else I’d replace it with.
It will be a little more focused to live with than the Aprilia regards riding position and heat in traffic could be bothersome, where about in Aus are you? My Daughter lives in Brisbane, you are all so lucky to live in that wonderful country .
I am a new viewer and at first I thought Lin Jarvis was reviewing the bike 😂 anyway love the review
Bike is soo damn BEAUTIFUL...!!
I would love to “live with” that bike!
Awesome bike 👌🏽
Late to the party I know! Went to inspect and to sit on of these yesterday, the US edition and here are my thoughts.
From only looking and sitting on it (will do a test drive soon). It looks really cheap in some ways. Like a toy. That one they had as a used had only been driven 2730km, meaning barely anything and it already had rust in some places... Even behind the front brake disc on the internal components.
Might not be me used to sports bikes but you really sat very aggressive on it even though everyone says comfy for a sports bike. Pegs are too high up as well it feels even though I am 176cm tall, which is not a lot tbh. Paint looks nice, but thin and the stickers are a bit hmm so and so. A bit of a shame it looks and feels rather toyish irl. But that engine howl sounds amazing on videos at least!
For reference my current bike is a Trident 660 and it really feels like a very well built kit. Quality wise feels like a much more expensive bike even though there are cheap plastics on it as well here and there. Seat also not the best.
I sat on the new Street Triple RS as well. My oh my! If the Aprilia feels like it´s built a bit like a Dacia as a comparison (which is unfair I know). The RS looks to be built as a Bentley or something. Paint so thick and deep, the leather on the seat and the components, even the stand is very solid and looks more expensive than needed. Also felt amazing to sit on, very sporty but much more comfy obviously than aprilia which it is since naked. I will try them both incl the Tuono to see how they feel riding.
It’s kind of hard to believe that a bike with a suspension that’s been touted to feel like it’s on rails could be better with this kit… pretty awesome..
Errrrr that's the RS660. Come on guys
Thanks, corrected now.
I was surprised Neevesy said he didn't like the sound. I suppose it makes sense if you are more traditional inline 4 kind of guy, but in comparison to the closest competitors to this bike in the 650 class I LOVE it! It's at least an almost exotic sounding twin and not a traditional lawn mower sounding parallel twin. It's all subjective of course I suppose.
Doesn't like sound......still has factory exhaust on it lol
I thought the engine sounds great because of the 270 degree crank. V2 like in the higher revs.
On my s1000rr I’ve gone to the M7 and they have been fantastic tried the m5 but the M7 is so much better As good as the Pirelli sc2 or sc1 on the road. They feel great and are lasting longer 💪🏻😎💪🏻
I’ve got S22s on my blade and depending on how long they last I might try the M9s next.
M9's
@Poose McPoose Metz own those get the M9s
Is it ever gonna get a factory version? And will they fix the issues with the bike?
the oil leak is the nut behind the oil filter . i bet not tightened up at factory enough.
Is it not about the rs660 I don't understand, is there a mistake in the title ?
Yes looks like a typing error
Thanks, corrected now.
I need help for the MCN community.
I'm buying a new bike this weekend and I need to now if I should go with a zx6r or rs660.
Any thoughts?
Really really nice bike. But the review...I know it's a 'living with' vid, but I'd like to learn about it's riding characteristics, especially given you'd switched the suspension over. What's it like from a thrill point of view? After a crappy day in the office, would you be looking forward to taking it for an hours blast in the evening? Those are the things that need to be balanced against more mundane things. They really really are.
Hmm nice bike but the need to replace the suspension tells me the original was not good enough and an oil leak could not be something small like a service or clean-up. Oil leak = problem somewhere.
Aprilias make great additions to a garage that already has a Japanese bike...
That oil drip is probably the oil filter, it sits right above that spot.
lol that tittle, i actually started googling power numbers of rsv4 because i couldnt get my head around why they are talking about low usable power
Thanks, corrected now.
How does it compare to the CBR650R ?
Patina-it’s good as it tells a story that the bike has been loved. Furry bits, not so much. I am more impressed with a machine that has taken its rider on countless adventures than a trailer queen that still has its showroom shine.
I now actually own this very bike! 🥰 I have to say, I’ve fallen in love with it and wouldn’t change it for the world!
Beautiful machine
Any update?
Sorry for the analogy, but I feel like it's this crazy gorgeous girl that you fall in love with, but it would make you suffer more time than what makes you happy, and also make you poor.
I'm in the market for a new bike but with this money I could go for an mt 09 and have money left for accessories.
I could love the mt 09, but it's not that gorgeous girl lol
@@ricardog4459As a spin-off to your analogy, what if you have a Honda Deauville?
@@grotesqo8570 not my style.
From Honda I was looking at the cb650r, I find it very handsome as well. But it's a naked and I had only ridden naked bikes.
In the end I went for a r7, I wanted to try sport bikes and see if I can get used to it. So far so good. And still I have the peace of mind of the reliability.
@@ricardog4459 I was aiming at that a Deauville must be the unsightly, flabby, uncool and dull girlfriend, but at least she'd be reliable 😂 But on a serious note, i'm holding out, hoping that the likes of Street triple 765RS, MT-09, Hornet 750 or GSX-8S will come in a faired, sporty version. Basically a do-it-all, mid-weight sports bike for the road.
*EDIT*
Basically, i'd like an RS660 witha bit more 'flavour' and made by a manufacturer i actually trust.
Also, i suppose the R7 serves as an approachable entry into that sphere.
How is it two up?
Many who own this bike have had many issues regarding the engine and electronics. My friend is having a terrible time with his bike, engine lights, stalling, not starting, dealing with the dealership and now excessive vibration ..... His is now looking for a lemon law lawyer.
Thought Neevesy had brought his son into the video and under closer inspection realised it was Dan Sutherland.....sorry Dan, love you dude, always happy for you to use comments on #Ride5000
I was looking for papa smurf
This bike costs USD26,000 in my country (with taxes). R7 costs USD20,500.
Neevesy hit the nail on the head,..Aprilia have sliced this engine the wrong way, he reckons it should have been a V twin,….🤔hmm, nice, but I think Aprilia should have just lost one cylinder and made it a 900cc V 3,…give it about 140 bhp and it would have been awesome!!
Yamaha will prove this when they release the R9 with the 115 bhp triple in it, ..everyone will prefer that over an RS660 😳!!
An R9 would be sweet, and between that and an RS660 it would be a tough call.
I hope they come out with the R9 soon!
The oil leak......was your bike part of the recall that required replacing the engine?!
I bet those oil spots are derived from a chain lubricant build up around front sprocket, it happens on most bikes, nothing to be worried about, a good cleaning will sort it out.
Be interesting if it is because so many people in the comments are saying they won't buy now because of 'the' oil leak.
My thoughts also.Is it just me ,or is the chain adjustment to tight.
@@argieessex my new MT09 has the same" leak", sling off from the chain and sprockets.
It getsa lot worse as the bike heat soaks from the cat especially in stop and go traffic.
It's not the seals just chain lube that catches in a recess then when leaned over drips out.
Once I clean the bike and drive chain it should eliminate this problem.
Curious if the rs is the same.
Why did you remove the maxton suspension?
...because it is being returned to Aprilia?
Why did Michael N seem, well… either a bit ‘off’ or a bit ‘aloof’? Quite rare for him. Love the bike and it’s on the shopping list so good info all the sa,e
He's "social distancing" keeping one bike length apart! Lol
2000 miles with tyres?
It shows how important long term reviews are. The bikes look fantastic in the showroom, but no new bike should need a whole engine replacement as a recall! That is not trivial! It seems to have cheapy suspension, so you replaced that, tyres lasted 5 minutes, the finish wears easily and now an oil leak!? It shows that bike tests at the time of launch are really not much use at all!
At last someone with a functioning brain . I think only me and you actually understood that review. I've had 2 Tuono v4 factories which rode great but the faults and poor warranty service put me off buying another.
Never had an issue with getting warranty work done on any of my aprilia’s 😁
a lot of new engines has been replaced or recalled. My Honda's VTR 1000 cc replaced in 1999. Africa Twin 1000 cc engine replaced to in 2017 under warranty too...
I just got a Tuono 660 and with only 19 miles I have an oil leak
WTF APRILIA!
A recall is a sign of trust read forums and see which manufacturers in the automotive industry Don't do recalls on commonly considered faults ...
It's a bike that doesn't need the electronics because it doesn't make the hp, and with the new r7 they took the r6 elements out of it and it's a let down because it's supposed to be a sportbike but it just isn't.
I love spending my hard earned cash on a pretty looking thing just to have it in the shops getting factory warrantied 6 months of the year.
It gives you opportunities to ride your others bikes in the meantime, so quite nice in fact.
Did you guys find out the reason behind the oil spots?
It is cultural assimilation, it just very hard tries to get british... it is like fish 'n chips or deep fried mars bars, just not good if it's not drippin' ;D
it's just a oil filter cover gasket - common problem on first edition of 660 engine
@@crazyosva Thanks for chiming in 👍
How much for the suspension upgrades?
About £2200 for a GP30/10 Maxton forks and shock.. I had mine done and can say it does completely transform the bike, especially on track
@@mach3463 thanks, and yeah I can imagine.
title says Aprilia RSV4??
Thanks, corrected now.
I still can't warm to the power rangers paint scheme, why Aprilia is doing it still, going back over 20 years to RSV. They clearly can design a pretty bike like Ducati and MV, which don't have a Rainbow look, Japanese sports bike do it to hide there styling shortfalls.
Taking about Aprilia reliability and we hear of major recalls for whole new engines (!) and it’s dripping oil on the floor before it’s even a year old 🤣🤣🤣
I have one on order to convert into a track Bike! I will put clips on's on, rear sets, full system.... @Neevsey - any other reco's?
Really want to buy that bike but the oil leak is the final nail in the coffin. Loads of people having same issue, poor customer service. its like going back to the 1960’s!! Unacceptable, will stick with ducati.
What does he mean by "square tire" ? Non-english speaker first time hearing the terminology
It refers to excess wear in the centre of the tyre, leading to the round profile becoming flatter.
Thanks for the LT review. Considering buying one to replace a Ninja 650 on commuting duties. Needs to be robust and reliable.
Just curious, why would you replace a commuter with another commuter?
@@lovelessissimo love the Ninja 650 (despite its reputation as a happy shopper) but would love to have something a little more sporty for the 30 min commutes and the odd weekend run out to the twisties.
I have a 2021 Ninja 1000sx for touring. Happy to diversify away from Kawasaki.
@@argieessex that makes sense, lol. that's the only way to do it: only get an Ape if you also have a japanese bike in the garage. I went from a Ninja 650 to a z900 recently. The commute became much more exciting.
@@argieessex not so sure I would use "robust and reliable" to describe anything Italian, though...
@@argieessex If it was Question of
Reliability...The Ninja (or Z) 650 is
Such a well proven Engine..look at all the Bikes Big K use that parallel twin in
The Aprilia looks Fantastic
But I don't know if I would Trust it.ovet the long Term
I am struggling to make a decision between RS660 or pay another 2k and buy Panigale V2 here is oz the price between the two is just 2k, I will use the bike for daily so panigale V2 maybe too much and uncomfortable than rs660 then again it is more powerful and better built so I have a headache
Would you buy one after that review? Recall fot whole engine replacement!
@Nick 007 see my other comments regarding V2 Panigale, but if you’re going to commute the bike you need isn’t out yet ,…Yamaha are surely going to make an R9 with the three cylinder engine in, it would be an absolute winner and would sit somewhere between the RS660 and the V2 .
It would go and sound great and would be a better daily ride than the V2 , so it would fit your brief exactly, just hold your fire and keep saving for a while 👍
@@1956colinb mate R9 is a long wait if it is even true and a S1000rr costs 25k here the base version might wait a few months and just buy that for a long time I don't want to mess up with rs660 after hearing about the call back and the quality of suspension etc doesn't make sense, r9 would be great but cannot wait for another 1 and half year
Get the v2 mate …
Wrong bike listed in the title guys
Thanks, corrected now.
So.....if i have had my 2020 gixxer 1000 for 11 months and they came out with Bridgestone rs11, and I gave them the absolute beans every chance I got and they lasted 5200km, before changing them... and this guy has changed his tyres 3 times, how bloody abusive was he?...no wonder the bike is weeping.
What I dont get is the money out into it as it's a manufacturers bike. Redone the suspension unless this is owned by MCN and his long term review.
Rsv4 or rs660...???
Thanks, corrected now.
I bet if it was a V twin the second cylinder head would increase the price another $1000 plus. It’s a shame, but the cost of producing v engines seems to be ballooning thanks to more complicated tech and engineering in modern cylinder heads … and besides that you don’t really make any more power going v versus inline. Character counts, though!
That ain’t no RSV4
Thanks, corrected now.
Lol. Very reliable. Just leaking oil, thin paint and a full engine replacement.
Expensive for a cheaply finished bike. None of my HDs dropped oil. My 2019 gsxs , faultless, better finished and engineered imho.
Hold on a minute 6 months old 6k on the clock and it's dripping oil all over your garage floor.
How on earth is that acceptable for a 10k bike ,we buy bikes to ride them not ride them back a forth to the dealer's for warranty and recalls.
3 sets of tires in 9 months?
No, 3 sets of sports tires in 10k miles. Most riders will do this mileage in 3 years lol ...
Beautiful machine.
But the "Friday afternoon bike" term is a joke.
How can a 6k mile bike drip oil? It's practically still brand new.
If it was mine, I'd be furious.
Plus the engine swap recalls.
I just sold a VFR 800 Vtech with
230 000kms. No drips of oil or anything.
Has been on the dyno at 200k and still put out factory numbers.
Well, I guess the "Friday afternoon bike "
term does not exist in Japan 😉
Lol there is Friday sake and Monday hangovers in the Rising Sun too.
Worked for long time at a 6brand dealer, saw plenty of them.
Check out Hondas 2021 CBR RX4 SP2 and the broken conn rods, failed oil lines, etc. No one is spared of mechanical mayhem. Mr Murphy can hitch a ride anytime.
Mine VTR 1000 cc engine was replaced under warranty juste after 3000 km by Honda in 1999. In 2017 Honda also replaced mine Africa Twin 1000 cc engine under warranty at 11000 km. All brands has problems on new products, as 660cc is a new engine, let's see in future. The oil drips problem is very well known for now - it is oil filter cover gasket (easy fix).
@@crazyosva rough go of things with Honda! Interesting info Thanks for sharing!
My Firestorm is still running with 50000 miles on it, never done nothing besides modify it and replace the charging system.
Though she rattles a tad it will still spank my brand new 21 MT09.
Our examples are proof of good and bad in everyone of them.
Honestly ?
Bridgestone are horrible on anything other than hot days.
not a V4
Thanks, corrected now.
Riders be aware! My rs660 started leaking oil since first couple weeks and it’s been down a the dealership for about 2 months now!! Called aprilia and they don’t seem to want to do anything about it! I have no idea what’s going on!!
👎👎👎 #rs660 #aprilia
I wanna know about reliability when it’s 10 years old with 44k miles on it. I don’t care about the “reliability” of a 2 year old bike. It’s brand new, it damn well better be reliable.
considering many RS 660 owners are having oil leaks why did these 2 brush it under the carpet, found this review useless and others too.
It ain't the end of the world, and if you know how to use a wrench to tighten a loose bolt (kind of hard, I know), you can even fix it yourself.
Why people buy brands that are pure trash in terms of build quality is beyond me, especially when you have Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha.
Sorry to rain on your parade, it’s not an RSV4 😂
Thanks, corrected now.
For the price I don't think it's worth it
MCN is the benchmark however…..do they really really need to really really all the time? 🤔. More wheelies…less “reallys” please 🙏
Budget bike clad with electric gizmos with a premium price tag, no thanx, better buy an old d675 for half the price.
Click bait!!!!!!!!! Wanted RSV4 not the 660
Thanks, corrected now.
This bike was on the top of my shopping list, but the oil leak and Aprilia's terrible customers service put me off badly. People pointing out serious issues which is not really acceptable from the new bike.
It is sad because it was my favourite bike, but my confidence is gone with Aprilia
Man seriously have talked to someone who is unbiased that wrenches on bikes full time?
They all have faults flaws and issues. Don't make a damn who built it.
It's mechanical craps gonna happen.
I just bought a new Yamaha all kinds nitt picky stuff wrong, and gods honest truth it has the worst factory paint of any bike I've ever owned.
I repainted the entire bike, fixed the various bugs and ride the hell out of it now.
I love it, awesome bike.
Was keen to get one of these. First off I couldn’t get a test ride. Then started seeing reports of faults. On the owners site always seems to be somebody posting about a fault. Now MCN just passing by apparent oil leak and none of the other magazines saying much either. Not confidence inspiring is it😕
Lol I thought he was like 14 years old
Oil Leak. Bad Customer Service. You have been warned.
Squared his tyre. Mmmmhh.
I wonder if it happens to everyone.
Please review RS 660
Weirdest video 🤷
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First comment 🏆
Conclusion: Get a CBR650R.
If you're poor and can't afford a RS 660 that's a good conclusion.
@@22Epic 2 grand is peanuts. Its about having brains. Want Italian mid-range sports exotica? Get a Ducati Supersport or Panigale V2.
@@beingsolo80 You're missing "having a brain" part :D
Also the Supersport is a nice GT like the CBR 650R and the Panigale V2 is a real supersport unusable as a daily bike.
If you had a brain you will see that the RS 660 fill the gap between those 2 (and that's why it's so successful)
@@22Epic The Supersport has 110 hp. Its a much better street bike than the 660, more reliable and much better resale value. I suggested the V2 but you're probably too broke for it. Get the 660 and enjoy the recalls. Cheers.
@@beingsolo80 I'm sorry mate you can't afford a RS 660 :(
I understand that you're mad, but you may be afford one, not new but used, if you work hard enough. Keep up mate !
Gosh am I glad that I didn't buy one of those
Is he imitating lollipop kids
I need help for the MCN community.
I'm buying a new bike this weekend and I need to now if I should go with a zx6r or rs660.
Any thoughts?
How does it compare to the CBR650R ?
It makes more power, lighter, more electronics so it's not really a fair comparison
Blows the Honda out of the water. Honda will be more reliable