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$42.99 are you out of your mind? Auctionkings Buying a Morgan Silver Dollar on Ebay experience
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2022
- I won an auction on Ebay from the seller Auctionkings 7/19/22 and received my coin today 7/23/22. This is my honest review of my experience. The coin is an 1881-S Morgan Silver Dollar that was described as "1881 S Morgan Dollar! SEMI Proof Like! Absolute Stunner! Amazing Piece" on the title.
Sorry about my cracking mic
I'm surprised he didn't go further into verifying whether is legit, or a fake!?
They sent me a Mercury that was not a GEM and Full Bands advertised. I gave them Neutral feedback and they immediately responded to offer me refund or compensate me. Tried to bully me to change my feedback. I told them I don’t want anything from them just want to provide other buyers of my experience. Then they went silent
That flip (sleeve) it came in looks like it has been used 784 times before.
You have a great sense of humor! And you have a new subscriber in coin solidarity.
Last comment - if you’ve ever tried to take pictures of coins you would know it’s very easy to make a coin look a bunch of different ways depending on the angle and lighting. A very subtle adjustment tilting the coin 5° can make the coin look amazing and perfect
The difference between me and a majority of these new sellers is I look for what’s bad and I highlight what is bad I try to tell people right up front these are the problems I do not accentuate the positives as much as what’s bad (haze, spotting, rim hits, etc.).
I almost never sell a raw coin as “Gem BU”, only if I’m super confident the coin will grade better than 65 at PCGS and I send them hundreds of coins a year so if I think it will grade better than 65 chances are I’ll submit it anyway unless it’s too common like a 1940s or 1950s common date Washington quarter etc .
I saw a guy selling a coin as Gem AU last night. It’s gotten ridiculous
Does it hurt the amount of money my coins ultimately sell for? Yes - sometimes. But in other ways it gains customers
Plus savvy and more experienced coin buyers know what they’re looking for anyways
And you never sale a thing.
That’s my rule on presenting any items I sell, not just coins; under-promise and over-deliver. Better to leave a little profit on the table but end up with a customer that is thrilled they got more than they expected.
I just recently enjoyed the AuctionKings experience, just as so many others have stated, they are a piece of work
"This flip is really jacked" ... "This thing's been old-school wired pretty hard-core in the field." Love it.
wasted 95 on a morgan frpm them to plan too get it graded was a total junker. one of the reasons i buy graded only now.i dont think they swap the coin out i think it just lighting tricks.
Sorry that happened to you. That is why I am sharing my experience.
Dang, thanks for sharing. Gives me a perspective on what to do on eBay being new to selling coins.
Enjoyed your review. They are known for editing photos. Coin looks cleaned out of its mind haha. Brand new flips are cheap. Eye opening video.
Drew I watch all of your videos. My favorite is watching Casey revving the Prius with no cat and making it sound like half the cars around Chicagoland. Except they make their cars loud on purpose.
The coin is a common date. Reverse always looks better than the obverse. The coin has been dipped and whizzed. So you get what you pay for. The coin is worth 30 bucks since it has been cleaned so it's no bargin. They mosly likely have a bunch laying around that they paid 20 bucks for years ago. They have me blocked and I have them blocked on ebay. I think they suck and are not honest.
Auctionkings use to use the Tolliver James rare coins. They hide behind their 100% satisfaction free returns guarantee banking that most won’t go through the trouble. “Best coin EVER!” 30” Black n White mirrors on a Au slider. They are a absolute joke Imo
I would value that cleaned common date slider at I don’t know $30-$35 so they still banged you for $10
Appreciate this video I see coins by this person all time and Morgan’s dealer and fortunately for people like you you save me two hrs pay on a wasted purchase if rather buy geoceries
Please share your experience if you have ever won an auction on Ebay with the seller "Auctionkings"
The problem I have with them is they claim that their photos are as realistic as possible when they are obviously 100% heavily photoshopped. This is illegal misrepresentation.
@@thisismonitor4099 I 100% agree
I have US silver coins which was dug up by treasure hunters in the Philippines,how do i sell them?most of them are morgan dollars
I'v won a few good auctions for nice morgans and peace dollars and always in capsules and good packing... I've got what was in pic or if not better ..I guess maybe good luck at times ... I'm satisfied
Not bad coin still looks great it's over a century old.
I bet you did get the right coin, it's all in the photo magic. I've bought several coins from them, and have done very well. I go in knowing that the quality is never the same as the picture, but I'd be hard pressed to do better for same price at a LCS. Definitely would never pay over $45 for there stuff, but I've managed to pick up some nice washington quarters, and couple Morgan's. Also I did return a coin with no Hassel and I'm not blocked. I didn't leave negative feedback, but they paid return shipping. They are definitely sketchy with photos, but so far everything was real.
They have changed their handle several times.I bought a couple of Morgans back about 10 years ago when I didn't know any better, one was whizzed to death and the other was a very nice 78-S Morgan, but had an staple scratch right across the cheek.Never again. I wouldn't pay much over spot for them today.
the images don't show the scratch on the reverse. you could park a mack truck in the scratch. as for the flip, no comment.
It's a nice presentation the first thing I would check if it's real I would test the weight and the sound ping to see that you did get a good deal
You know you're dealing with a professional when they use "there" instead of "their".
I’ve bought a couple of coins from them, no problem at all.
I doubt AuctionKings paid more than $30-$32 for that worked over A.U. Morgan Dollar. I can't imagine a fairly knowledgable collector wanting to buy it from you for more than you paid for it.
It is not that bad compared to what I see at my LCS here in IL for $42 u dont get anything nice.
@@chaicharin I will agree. My LCS (biggest in michigan) sells average circulated grades for about 35$, AU for about the same as yours.
Still worth the $35. But I stay away from raw coins all together on eBay. Unless I’m 💯 that what I’m bidding on is what I’m getting. Mostly get graded ones from eBay
I have bought probably 100+ coins from them what I've learned is that you have to buy the coins that have actual #10652 if it's a #k52 or whatever then it's being pulled from a sorted drawer. I went to there store front they wouldn't let me in saying it was a shipping address only in a very nice part of Scottsdale,AZ. Only way to get the actual coin photo is if it's slabbed or has a # and no letters. I also think the MS+++++ Is one sometimes two grades higher then actual coin. Just my opinions.
Interesting and I have only bought two so far. I'm amazed how much some of the coins go for on auction.
Their Morgan's are the biggest hit and miss. I feel like the cheaper you get the coin the lower MS you get out of the drawer to mitigate loss, again my opinion but what I've noticed. Their other coins like quarters and half dollars are spot on.
Seems like one of the biggest scammers out there. A couple years ago, I tried to visit their location in Scottsdale AZ. Locked up tight. Called the number on the door and whoever answered the phone said they only sell online. They’d allow an appointment at the storefront if you wanted to sell something to them, but not the other way around.
Negative feedback is a last ditch option. It's hard on a small business. I recycle shipping supplies if they are nice enough.
It’s always a crap shoot. I try to show any raw coin I’m selling as best I can. Being a Morgan collector I understand. I wanna make sure you get what you think you’re gonna get. I’ve had good and bad luck with eBay
I hope you get some MS64 or MS65 on your CC Morgan GSA and raw submissions. That would be awesome. Or even better maybe a possible PL or DMPL. That would be epic and then you can go to full time coin collecting and save your back just doing easy part time plumbing jobs.
@@chaicharin ha! Yes!!!
Its a nice coin but i think its obviously been cleaned proof like fields are super hoghly susceptible to the hairlines and so its a shame because it would have been a great buy if not for the likely cleaning
Matches my experience with them too. Two auctions, photos didnt match actual coin. Good thing that they pay for return shipping
Actionkings got us too!!! Most of their auctions are of DCAMs which do not exist in that quantity, and they use deceptive descriptions!!!
That is fraud, those are clearly not the same coin, you may as well have bought a gold coin and received that thing instead.
Just my opinion but, now that you've made your educational video and had your fun, and in the process further 'outed' them (sounds like plenty of folks are already aware of how they conduct business!), return the coin for a refund or ask for a discount just to back them up a little and slow their roll. They need reminding that an ever widening sphere of people/collectors are on to them and sharing info. Good video
Since you won the bid at only $38, you think they switched the coin with a lower quality?
I think they just mass sell on auctions and what ever coin is next in line is what you get for that type of listing. I got the scratched one in the pile. It is interesting how they get away with shipping coins that are not in the photo of the original listing.
@@chaicharin unless they state in the advert that you may/will not receive the item pictured they should be sending out the item pictured. I'd take it up with them and then ebay if they don't resolve the issue if I was you.
Also. As a top rated seller myself selling fees for me are 9% on coins and around 8% on bullion PLUS my $28/month store fee.
eBay also charges A FVF on shipping . So when I sell something for $100 +$5 shipping the FVF percentage is calculated on $105 not $100
Someone like them doing huge volume may get a better deal than the average Joe though
One last hint - Do not just look at a sellers feedback in the top right corner on a desktop computer not the mobile app look at how many revised feedbacks the seller has that’s what you want to look for
Are Guitars still the lowest fee to sell on Ebay or did they change that as well?
@@chaicharin not sure I never bought it sold one on eBay .. I’ve always used reverb. eBay has a full list of selling fees for all categories available for public view
What's your ebay name?
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@@Samscoinsandheavymetal I sell coins every once in awhile on ebay, but their fees are insane. They hit you up for everything. As a seller, you know you have to jack up the prices to cover your costs. I looked at what you have for sale. Do you trade coins?
Is it real?
I did ok with auctionkings on a 1962 D Washington quarter that is a very high mint state, though I’ve heard mostly negative things about them since then. I probably won’t buy anything else from them.
Did a magnet stick to it?
No it was a real coin
You need to do a ping test. That coin looks very fake. If you pay less than $80 USD most likely a fake.
This company has through the years always been top shelf dealing with me. Never a problem with them and the coins have always been fantastic. Maybe I've been incredibly lucky, not sure. I'm ordering a morgan dollar today and expecting a cool coin in a few days.
I cant find them anymore on Ebay....did they change name to Morgandealer?
Beautiful coin,what is the complaint?
Coin pictured was not the same one received. Still was a decent coin in my opinion for the money.
Maybe the scratch came from the gnarly staple jammed into the coin when it got run over at the post office lol.
Great video
Squirrel sighting...thanks for watching Angel.
Dude, if they wire brushed the obverse they did not lose, you did.
ALL OK ....That's what You Get 😲
Friend, they likely didn't "lose" money. That Morgan I'm convinced will be "details", if graded by the reputable grading companies...bc it's heavily cleaned. If you go to sell that Morgan...a coin dealer will give you likely under $30, w/Ag currently under $25/oz. If you place it for auction...I blv it won't go for much more than $35...if you have good photos, bc ppl will see the terrible cleaning hairlines. HERE'S THE KEY THING: THE COIN YOU SHOWED, as the one advertised...WAS NOT THE COIN YOU RECEIVED. This is, in my opinion, terrible! I blv, in fine print, there are dealers that let you know that...but also, in my opinion, any coin seller that shows a picture of the coin...and then you receive a DIFFERENT coin, is not worth doing business with.
Yet they sell millions on Ebay a year....go figure?
my opinion cleaned brushed common date its a 25 dollar coin...that is why I only do bullion numis aren't worth the trouble...
They doctor images. I have purchased from them in the past. Was not happy with my experience. Overpaid for good clean gem bu looking coins were actually just bu with hits and scratches. Good luck!
Well, I have learned that photos and lighting can change the appearance of a coin in many ways. Too hide chatter and trouble areas. Beware of these manipulated tactics. I have been burned in the past. I enjoy purchasing coins I can hold as I buy.
If the coins were as good as they look on the site, they would get them graded themselves. The buyers should know this right away.
Their little trick is that they will quietly refund you your money on the side outside of eBay if you insist upon enforcing the return policy. They're hoping you don't. And if you do, it stays out of eBay. So that way their eBay persona shines better than it should. Just like their coins.
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I got a toned morgan from them once. It was definitely the coin in the photo but it didn't look the same in person so I returned it. They use crazy lighting or filters to make the colors pop
l.e.d. ring is what they use. it highlights all area of the coin.
Looks good to me. I wouldn’t complain about it.
EEEEEH thats a $35ish coin all day! I think i bought something from them awhile back ill have to look!
for 43ish not bad i like that
thats called a return some one did not like
Auction King (formerly T. James) is not to be trusted. His photos are altered and coins received did not match pictures. I will never buy from this guy again. Daniel from CoinHelpU did a expose’ on this guy and said the same thing. Very misleading seller.
Where do they get so many morgans?
From all over the USA dealers
Magic camera, been there 😂
I’ve never been caught out touchwood so I suppose you’re a little bit upset about it but you didn’t lose that much 😀
I'm ok with it since I was expecting worse
Is this coin real silver or cheap counterfeit
It is 100% real
The coin looked good tho ?
It did but the picture looked amazing that they show on the listing
@@chaicharin thanks for reply..I understand when it isn't what you looked at before hand.
The flip 😂😂😂
Sooo, what was the problem? Seems like a waste of video tape
Video tape?
What is this, the 80’s?
Nice coin, dude. Sad it was wire brushed.
I can’t find them on eBay so hopefully they’ve been forced off the site.
while i agree that some uneducated buyers may get less than they paid for, auctionkings has some amazing coins for sale. i've paid over $150 for a morgan/peace dollar from them, and have been happy with my purchase. you just have to know what to look for. every seller will try to post their coins in the best light.
The problem I've had...is when sellers have DIFFERENT COINS SHIPPED TO YOU, THAN THE COIN IN THE PHOTO; not merely "editing" photos...rather, completely different coins shipped than the con in the photo. I blv. they even say (to that effect) in the fine print.
Seems the person here is a bit picky.
A 50 dollar coin for 35 dollars and still unhappy.
Personally when I buy, I find the first thing I need to do every time is to throw the case away and mostly they are wrapped in other things like loo paper et al.
As to photo shopping that would take time and time is money.
As people say, the photo often doesn’t pick up any defects.
They definitely did not lose money and auction kings is awesome. You get the exact same coin that you see on the ad and most the time they look better than the picture so I support auction Kings whole heartedly this whole video is just silly.
What's going on with your audio man
Sorry my mic was jacked up. I had to clean out my mic jack on my phone and now it works again.
is it real?
It was real authentic coin. Just not the one I thought I was getting in the original photo of the listing.
Haha the flip...💀
They remove neutral/negative feedback through loopholes. Items are misrepresented and you will not receive the coin in the photos, which they will admit, one of their experts chooses and sends a "similiar" coin. Unsure how a flawless coin could be dirty with environmental damage and hard to see some details. None of the seven coins purchased are what they were represented to be. Sad to say, but they are crooked and unethical. Buyer beware.
Out of their mind! Silver is silver!!!
I've fallen for their junk before too
E bay should back this this is scamming and it’s sad that people that are supposed to be in a trusting hobby are like this even brick and mortars will rob a lil old lady sad anything to get over can’t be happy with making 20 percent gotta take 60 65 percent and screw someone outa there money sad very pathetic
To me, that's still deceiving practices.
It's a complete gamble. They use stock photos
I have found out the hard way with this company if picture is black and white stay awake run if picture of coin is in color you can trust the photo I got 3 buffalo nickels from there of course 2 were 38 D so common so no problem there the other was 37 D and it was cleaned unc details the photo on all 3 were in color but I later found out thru another person who bought a lot that is what he noticed if the coin is nice they take normal pictures if it’s not that’s when they doctor the pictures and they are bad about I will refund your purchase if you redo your feedback if not they just burn you and block you so just be aware ok
Auction Kings are the worst sellers I’ve dealt with…
We all should consider complaining to eBay about sellers manipulating coin photos.
Hey coin people:
If the coin photos are manipulated, or out of focus etc… DONT BUY IT…
Help support the honest sellers…….
And they sell millions on Ebay year after year.
But he has like 10s of thousands of positive reviews
Silver going up. You will think you got a steal in 6mos.
those multi millionaires dont spend much on flips, do they?
Modern numismatics are always a crapshoot I avoid l like the plague
They are a bad bad about doing that crap. If there coin in auctions don't bring what they want they will send you crap. And then in three day's the coin you won will be back up for auction
Looks like they cut flips in half
Or use garbage flips
Same thing happened to me with these jokers! I bought what was supposed to be a BLAZER 1888 o morgan the coin pictured WAS NOT the coin i received. The whole joke was that same coin was in MULTIPLE auctions with them and Nowhere do they say the coin is a stock photo. These guys are bait and switch artists
Yeah and they have the most sales on Ebay with really good feedback. I wonder how many people just end up keeping the coin?
@Chai Charin a lot, I'm sure. I've been collecting Morgan Dollars for 40 years and have seen everything. When I called him out on it, they said they would issue me a refund and claimed it was a mistake. I told him I'm not interested in a refund but getting the actual coin I payed for! It's an ongoing situation we'll see what happens
Bad sound quality on this video
I know my Mic was acting up. Sorry about that
Yeah this seller is garbage. I bought a coin from them and after I won the auction, I decided to see if he had any more of the same date. Low and behold, he had the exact same coin that I won in another auction. I sent them an email, but didn't get a response. When I received the coin, I immediately compared it with the listing and it was a different coin that what I received. Contacted them, sent it back, and got a refund.
But I will not buy from them again. Total garbage!
Not a bad coin seen worse 😢
Not the same coin.
Better make sure its a real coin it looks fake to me
looks like it has been chemically cleaned
I agree
They probably steal photos
Just shut up. You did not pay for the flip. You paid for the coin and that looks exactly what you paid for. There are people who complain without any reason all the time. Invoice? Who cares about an invoice? Flip? Who cares about the flip? Packaging? Who gives a $#/T
Awesome. I agree with you 100%.
eBay is a cesspool. Never gamble on eBay, you will lose.
You have sound issues Friend! & Kings are Pretty darn Chincy!! Regards JJ
I know my mic was messed up.
Dude, please listen to your own video audio. I had to quit watching omitted in because of the flickering and loud tapping.
Sry my Mic was defective on this video
Its a 30$ coin lucky its silver 😢😅
Skip to 3:10. Zzzzz
So today I decided I was going to see if I could find any worth getting. GPS said 3 shops but I got off the train and 😳🥲 I was on jewelers !! 4 blocks solid with every store having signs screaming gold silver jewelry etc!! Every side street was nothing but as well!! Including and 2nd floors!! I ended up trading a gold ring with a spot value of $96 and $15cash ... as many morgans Ben's etc as you want for 30x. I then found a better place and got him down to
25x for any you wanted! I got a crazy toned out 1987morganfor 25 and it's in pretty freaking great condition!! 87... 100 years b4 I was born! It was nuts because every single place was trying to push the morgans on you!! Like they would constantly pick them out to give you instead of the Ben's, walkers AND EVEN THE KENNEDYS!! THE CRAZY PART WAS EVERY SINGLE PERSON THERE WAS HOLDING ONTO THEIR JUNK 10,25S LIKE THEY WERE MADE OF 999 GOLD OR FREAKING PALLADIUM LOL THEY ALL HAD BOXES AND BOXES OF MORGANS AND BENS BUT EACH WOULD ONLY HAVE LIKE 1 OR 2 DOLLARS IN QUARTER AND DIME!! THE 1 GUY HAD A SINGLE MAPLE LEAF THAT WAS INCREDIBLY TONED AND PRETTY GOOD CONDITION HE $45! SAID OH THATS A 60-70 COIN OR MORE! SAID THOSE RIGHT THERE THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO GET!! I SAID THATS CRAZY CUZ THOSE ARE LITERALLY THE CHEAPEST COIN YOU CAN BUY ON LINE MANY TIMES 5
What are you doing man? You got a deal and your bent over a cracked slip... you tripping!