My aunt was a mod and my uncle a rocker and they met in Brighton on that bank holiday weekend so whist the Mods and rockers were knocking hell outta eachother they were elsewhere getting all romantic and they married in 1970s and are still married today and he got her into Elvis she used to call him a grease ball and didn’t like him now she loves Elvis and Madness I like Elvis and Madness too and love listening to their stories of the Mods and Rockers fascinating
The demise of youth culture was totally engineered by the British state, governments ( labour& tory) hated all forms of youth culture. The Rave scene was the last , and was killed off by a government Bill banning " repetitive beats". Nowadays, young people have to worry about their pensions. Thank christ I was born in 1954, I would hate to be young now. This country is ruined.
Been in my early 50s, and at school from 78 to 83 i loved the mod revival ,the style the music(the jam)scooters etc ,but I love rock music and bikes too ,so I always classed myself as a mocker a bit of a mod and a bit of a rocker.
Same here. Just got my motorcycle licence and it was a decision between motorcycle and scooter, both great. Love both fashion styles honestly, both music styles are legendary... so now I have the Vespa and the black leather jacket haha
That Jurrasic Mod reminds me of myself a little bit in the way that he says something like "the Rockers were living in the Past. I wanted to go forward, live in the future" ...yet hère hé is nearly 80 years later, still living , STUCK, in the Past ! I am also stuck in the Past. To bé honest, I think most things about life were better back then for younger people.
They do here in Manchester and Lancashire, in fact most of us oldies look back very fondly and join together remembering Mods, Rockers, Two Tone, Madness, Punk, Queen and all the many other brilliantly creative bands and people "Way Back Then." Many people are still unsure about Synth Bands and New Romantics but that genre produced good music too. Ahh I'm so pleased I was around and young in those days....... 🐝🥳😎💯🧑🦽🗣🏍🛵🛵🎉🎟🎫
@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh most certainly yes. I lived near Skegness when I was much younger and knew plenty of mods , rockers and all types. I did witness the media winding things up, when mostly the media were told to leave them alone. Of course some fights broke out in pubs from time to time, but that was just pubs for you and nothing to do with rivalry between mods and rockers. I was happy to be out and about and on the beaches , I never really felt uneasy or threatened- unless I spilt my pint on someone lol.
@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh God yes I used to watch Northern football clubs like Leeds United and Manchester United with my brother and there was always fighting , as there was with Southern clubs too. You can tell when a casual or a football hooligan wants to pick a fight. Both me and my brother lived in Leedds for a while so we watched Leeds United, but it did get dangerous most of the time. That was a long time ago and things have improved to a certain degree these days.
I was more of an 80's teen mod but liked the Rocker Music as well. Anyone born in the 70's will remember Suggs, Baggy Trousers and Madness. My late Uncle was a Vespa Driving Mod in the 60's with Desert Boots according to my late Aunt. They were both in there 20's then. My Dad was part Mod with an MG Magnette Car two Tone Paint White Wall Tyres, Chelsea Boots, Suede Jacket and Narrow suits a bit like the Saint Syle. My Mom was Sofia Loren Style high Cheek Bones, Black Hair, Olive Skin and Smart Dresses, Kitten Heels, Small Behive like my smaller Aunt who was in to Soul. All loved the 60's era and the Clubs and Dance, Coffee Bars. My late uncle was always in his suit as far as I can remember. My other Uncle was an Etype Jag Driving Mod who frequented City Night Life and was Friends with Lance Percival who he Gambled with in the 60's. He had that life style
I love some aspects of the Mods and rockers , the Rockers leathers and bikes were cool , quite like the snappy look of the Mods and the Mods had the best music over all, and were forward looking and of the time , bang on it.
It scared the crap out of the establishment....who blew the trouble up out of all proportion... we just didn't want to be like our parents. We lived in a time of great change. I remember much of it with great fondness..
Good old Suggs, always liked the bloke. The 1960s was a great time to grow up in the UK, as far as the music and culture were concerned. Mods and Rockers were just a part of it, not dominant at all. Like Teddy Boys, a lot of people didn't know any Mods and Rockers. And of course London was the epicentre of it all. Times change, and it's incredible how things and places change beyond all recognition.
I've always been a biker/rocker. In the late '70s '80s, there was that rivalry with the Mod scooter boys. Not any more. I go out of my way to talk to them when on a ride out. They're so knowledgeable about their scooters. Something that bikers tend not to be anymore
Well done Suggs. I just missed out on the Mod and Rocker era by about 10 years. But I think they were great. I like both the Mods and the Rockers. But I like the Mods more.
My Mum was a mod from up north, Oldham, she always says it was different up here than the south. She's never been a fan of the Quadrophenia film for that reason.
Pete Townshend was eventually exhausted by Mod. Even though The Who were the top band in the country as their sort of representatives or ambassadors, if you will, he just couldn't keep up. He said every week there was a new rule that had to be followed. Weird things like a shirt collar had to be a certain cut one week and was totally unfashionable the next. Measurements and colors came and went. Drove him crazy trying to keep up with the latest trends. It's all in Quadrophenia: " I've had enough of dance halls I've had enough of pills I've had enough of street fights I've seen my share of kills I'm finished with the fashion And acting like I'm tough I'm bored with hate and passion I've had enough of trying to love"
You’re only talking about the 80’s New Wave Revival and it’s caricature : very reducing and limited vision ... "Harrington" jackets are in fact windbreakers mostly first worn by American Collegiates like Rodney Harrington, the character played by Ryan O’Neal in US TV Sitcom "Peyton Place" (in truth, "Harrington” is a very recent clothing label deposited by French manufacturers to exploit the trend, never such brand existed before! ) and the original casual wear was created by English clothing brand, Barracuta, in the 1930’s which was in turn massively imported in the 1940’s by American Brooks Brothers... Most mods didn’t even wear Fred Perry’s, they had French, Italian or German polo shirts with long pointy lapels, often zipped-up!
@@AstroMockerSelector Peyton Place was a soap opera, not a sitcom. Harington jackets and Fred Perry polo shirts were part of the Mod Revival at the tail-end of the 70's. There was no such thing as an "80's New Wave Revival" back then. I guess you're referring to 90's Brit-Pop.
@@crapple009 Thank you gor your lecture, but I know all that already! Saying Peyton Place is a Soap Opera not a Sitcom is like saying Soul doesn’t come from R&B, two sides of a same coin. As for New wave not being from the 1980’s, you’re trippin’ : New Wave emerged at the tail end of Punk late ‘78/79 just like the mod revival and I was referring to mods from that New Wave period, the first revival in many ways as important as the original wave from ‘59/65. Up to when a French brand called themselves "Harrington" manufacturing that design of windbreakers who registered trademark in the early 00’s, there was no really such thing as Harrington jackets and the name referred to the College jacket Ryan O’Neal’s character in that Soap or Sitcom (whatever you wanna call it! ), Rodney Harrington was wearing; the Original design was made in the 1930’s by Barracuta, but there were thousands of brands reproducing that jacket style (Penney’s, Sears, Mc Greggor... you name it! ).
@@AstroMockerSelector Calling my reply a "lecture"? Seriously? Got it. But you wrote "New Wave Revival", not me. How could there be a new wave revival in the early 80's when new wave was happening then? It's impossible. Revivals always come after the fact, usually 15-20 years after the fact. Please re-read your original comment. And no, I'm not "trippin''"- I know the new wave (post punk) era started in 1978 and continued into the early 80's. If anything, there was a 60's revival in the early 80's (Mod/British Invasion). However, that was retro as opposed to the then-contemporary new wave scene. Sitcoms (short for 'situation-comedies) and soap operas are two totally different things: It's like saying Peyton Place ( a soap opera) is the same genre as Friends (a sitcom). As far as Harrington jackets are concerned, I agree with you on those. No need to get worked up or use exclamation points-my reply wasn't meant to be taken personal or as an attack. Just stating some facts in a calm manner, that's all.
@@crapple009 By "New Wave revival", I meant the mod revival of the New Wave era. And, Situation Comedies for me are like Soap Operas in the sense that both are sponsored and paid for by commercials (otherwise yes, you are right about the subtleties! ). Let’s just say I use English as a second language...
we hung about bowers café and the shamrock cafe Newcastle city centre, the 1 that is filmed on get carter when micheal cane was to chatting to the lass
My late mum was a rocker back in the 50s/60s and my dad was a mod I think that's why they never really got on lol I was born in the 70s mum used to tell me different things that happened back then, good video tho
@@MarkMahoney hey! well, both at different times!! Lol! I have ridden motorbikes and been into the rocker scene....also tho I love the mod scene and ride a scooter now ! ;) I was a punk rocker too! Aaah what fun times! Gotta keep having 'em! Love my scooty!!
@@LittleMissIssues you can't beat a woman that rides!😊 Are still riding now? ;) I missed the peak of the sub cultures but when younger I liked the rockers, as get older more liking the mods.. the who Paul Weller. Yes you gotta keep enjoying it, I bet you have a lot of stories to tell!!
@@MarkMahoney You know I do!! I lived in London in the mid to late 80s, some of the best times of my life were right there!! I have a new scooter that I ride all around the back roads where I live, on errands around here and there. I record some of the rides, too, and usually put some good riding soundtrack with it! ;) My dad got me my first motorbike - a little Indian - when I was 6 years old, he was an enduro/motocross racer! I raced a little when I was like 8,9 years, "powder puff races" lol, good times!!
@@LittleMissIssues that's great!! :) Yes I did tune in to see some of your riding vids! I noticed you are American! The 80s in London what a time to be their! I lived out in countryside about 30miles from London and though their was mods and rockers around they were far and far between, did you lived south London?
souped up hairdryers with selfie mirror racks, smart clothes, and hidden flick knives. mods started the trouble, and guess who got the blame for it ? yeah right
I'm glad someone else is saying this - it's something that annoys me about the mod scene. I went to see a friend's band at a mod festival once & it was laughable. A sea of parkas and THAT haircut which was cool in the early 00's. Hardly looking to the future!
I would have hated growing up at that time. I could have never decided which camp to belong, I adore them both. The Mods are a bit poncy, but they just look so damn good. Two wheels are always better than four. Proper 60's rock is a cant fail. Rockers tended to be a bit more accepting than the mods. And who didnt like a good little dust up when youre young and full of spunk. Happy to have had both of their style and character influences.
I. Liked being a mod but loved the thril of ton ups down the arteiral on a bsa triumph what ever loved bikes, and my biker friends but loved my mod buddies too so had a sort of ducking n diving as loved the speed but being mod was me, greart times in Rayleigh Essex but from Brighton
Suggs was a skinhead, part of the 2nd wave that came back with the rise of the punk scene in 76/77. He was a bit of a naughty boy. I'll leave it at that.
37:38 - 38:17 Very fine line between working class mods and early skinheads. Two-tone encompassed both styles. Some of the second wave skins who were too young to remember the 1960s didn't exactly appreciate that though! Some didn't even know about it. In the mid 1980s I knew a punk guy who was into "Oi" music. He and his skinhead mates hated mods. When I told him that skinhead originally came from mod, he refused to believe me. He said "It had nothing to do with mods. Ask any skin."
@@alfsmith4936 nope. After crossing over from Modern Jazz, Mods were into R&B and blues to a degree, which along with gospel were the roots of Rock n Roll.
@@alfsmith4936 Re the music. That's not entirely true. The mods and the original skinheads were both into Jamaican and black American music, and the mods were also into British bands such as the Who, the Kinks and the (early) Rolling Stones. Later skinheads latched onto punk and called their version of it Oi. As far as I know, rockers were just into 1950s rock'n'roll (which is why they were seen as "old-fashioned" in the 1960s). Soul music came from rythm'n'blues, and ska/reggae _partly_ came from rhythm'n'blues. Rock'n'roll also came from rhythm'n'blues, as did punk if you trace it back far enough, but soul and ska/reggae didn't come from rock'n'roll.
Its a pity they didnt get a presenter who was actually there, Suggs was in nappies. I was there and the interviews were good, but supposition by programme makers is not. 🇬🇧
I was a Rocker, I miss it all so bad. I apologise for kicking scooters over, it was wrong. But going a run out with your mates, all on big bikes, nice chick on the pillion, and music playing in my head (Free, Thin Lizzy, Stones). Isle of Man TT, fantastic time.
In the 'Quadraphenia' Film, the Mods were put "On the Run" by the Rockers. That is SO VERY INCORRECT, according to accounts of people there at the time.
If you're going to ride a tuned up scooter leathers make more sense. Hence as rally going scooterboys we adopted the leather jacket in the mid 80s. Try looking cool in a suit after riding 200 miles in the winter months.
Wow the parties in Essex never ended Rayleigh Southend Hadleigh Wickford. Anywhere and everywhere Rock, con keating hullbridge dave Colin, freddi Ellis near rayleigh Station loved watching rockers stripping their bikes cleaning. Ancona, can't remember if Was a cafe I went, or a club on the arterial I went to also
34.15: I was a bit too young to be in either mod or rocker camps, but quite aware of it as I grew up in that time. TBH if either rockers or mods had any sense they would have taken the money offered by the press to have scuffles and then turned on the press and give them a good beating instead. The so-called mods rockers fights were about tribalism, nothing more. If nothing else it shows how much the press and media invent stories,to suit their agenda
But you won't BE a mod will you? You'll just be a clone like all those suits who wear denim and ride Harleys at the weekend. At the time it wasn't just a lifestyle choice, it WAS your life.
@@keithhoughton4308 you are right I will never be a true mod . However I can take the ideas of a mod to hart like being open to new experiences with a style from my contemporaries. Can I do that?
@@xavi239 Absolutely you can. 60's originals, 70's revivalists, 80's modernists, 90's stylists... doesn't matter- If any one of them passed by in the street- "there goes a mod". There will always be the snobbish " I was first" types in whatever things you choose to like ( I remember them referring to themselves as "individualists"- pfffftttt!). Thing is, there's no fun in a one person party, having a one person dance in their one person individualist bedroom. If it's obsessive, cultish and if you have a like-minded circle - a clique, a tribe... If you have so much going on- clothes, music, mode of transport, how many buttons, what way to have your hair, how you eat, breathe, sleep, fart.... That's the "Way of life" that you'll constantly hear about. Go be an ace Mod, make yourself some great memories for when you're old and boring. Keep the whole thing alive ...keep the faith.
I might be wrong, but Beatles seemed to have created the mod look in late 1962 when they burst onto the scene, but prior to that were almost certainly rockers.
It was there before them (Ivy League fashion), but they put a twist on it and popularized it, that's for sure. Interesting that they started out really as rockers.
Being a Skin head might as well be a Rocker what wiv dem DM's and the Shaved Head lol. I never thought Skins heads and Mods were related only in them Cromby Coats and Narrow Collar Stripped Shirts. Basically Mods were normal Blokes as were Rockers but Skin Heads became something else unfortunatley
The 60's were great but when I think of what made the 80's great, I think of Suggs and Madness. Fuck Michael Jackson, Prince, and Madonna, Madness was where it was at!!!
lincbond442 yes the 80's that and some of the other two tone bands and some of the Punk bands of the 80's were really good , most things that weren't main stream.
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The real mods existed from mid 1962 till late 1964 . .(us born in the mid/ late 1940's.. after that it was melted down to a 60's pop' clothes' period .. then came the 'mids' . .copycats!!!
no disrespect to the old boy mod , but thats wots wrong with the mod ,scooter scene now . full of old boys , to me the mod look ,looks great on youngsters, some 60 year old bald ,man , not so ...... im into the scene myself , got scooters and go to days , but i dont live in the past , concerning my look and scooters . this is only my opinion ............. and im very much live and let live ............
As a north american, this Mod thing is very foreign to me... despite I love Oasis and other britpop bands... I still couldn't get my head around what it means to be "Mod". If I had to compare Mod to something... seems they were like the rich kids and hipsters of the UK, and the Rockers... were the rockers.
THE Rockers CAME About After The WILD One !!!Was AT LAST !!!!!Shown To US THE UK ???? 7yrs After IT Came Out Over There ????*AS OUR LONDON Gov !!!SAID it Was TOO Rough !!!FK Our GOV 😔😂😂😂😂An Old Limey ROCKER 😁g
@@jopink7674 been there done it..100+ rallys..a was there from colwyn bay "82-the dark days of the late 80s/early 90s, when the scooter scene/mod scene was probably at its lowest ebb number wise..it was never a fashion for me,it WAS a way of life..1%
Grahame Greene started all this crap. I prefer The Comedians. About to do some Monsieur Barso on the Hammond (organ sound of the Casio - so not quite a Hammond)
The kids are far too pc, serious and austerity riddled and tied down with rules to ever enjoy themselves as much as the mods and rockers did in the 60’s!!!!
Having started on scooters at 15 and moved onto various bikes from 25 to 38 I got back into scooters bikers are all like grrr I'm a hard cos I got a bike which is quite pathetic really The scooterists some people laugh some people think there cool but we dont really care what people think just like riding scooters.
It's all a bit over the top and stereotypical. I was a mod with my Parker and scooter, but we never dressed outrageously. We weren't peacocks dressed from Carnaby street, that was just for the posers whe represented nobody
My aunt was a mod and my uncle a rocker and they met in Brighton on that bank holiday weekend so whist the Mods and rockers were knocking hell outta eachother they were elsewhere getting all romantic and they married in 1970s and are still married today and he got her into Elvis she used to call him a grease ball and didn’t like him now she loves Elvis and Madness I like Elvis and Madness too and love listening to their stories of the Mods and Rockers fascinating
Bullshit !!
@@johnbaker7184 Oh, don't be silly.
Quadrophenia?
@@johnbaker7184 This sounds like his truth. Unvarnished stuff & not like the films.
In the film Quadraphenia the Mods were getting trashed by the Rockers. That is not what happened.
So nice to see them all enjoying days long gone. As the man said at the end they had more, freedom, friends, fun.
The demise of youth culture was totally engineered by the British state, governments ( labour& tory) hated all forms of youth culture. The Rave scene was the last , and was killed off by a government Bill banning " repetitive beats". Nowadays, young people have to worry about their pensions. Thank christ I was born in 1954, I would hate to be young now. This country is ruined.
Been in my early 50s, and at school from 78 to 83 i loved the mod revival ,the style the music(the jam)scooters etc ,but I love rock music and bikes too ,so I always classed myself as a mocker a bit of a mod and a bit of a rocker.
Same here. Just got my motorcycle licence and it was a decision between motorcycle and scooter, both great. Love both fashion styles honestly, both music styles are legendary... so now I have the Vespa and the black leather jacket haha
The music was just better then - on all sides (a lot of which crossed-over)
That Jurrasic Mod reminds me of myself a little bit in the way that he says something like "the Rockers were living in the Past. I wanted to go forward, live in the future" ...yet hère hé is nearly 80 years later, still living , STUCK, in the Past ! I am also stuck in the Past. To bé honest, I think most things about life were better back then for younger people.
Will never get that 60s vibe back
Spot on
1979. That was the start of my mod life. I was 16. It was a great time. It’s now 2023 and I am now 60 and still dress like a mod
I love how mods and rockers are now, they ride together at charity event's well they do where I live anyway 👍
They do here in Manchester and Lancashire, in fact most of us oldies look back very fondly and join together remembering Mods, Rockers, Two Tone, Madness, Punk, Queen and all the many other brilliantly creative bands and people "Way Back Then." Many people are still unsure about Synth Bands and New Romantics but that genre produced good music too. Ahh I'm so pleased I was around and young in those days.......
🐝🥳😎💯🧑🦽🗣🏍🛵🛵🎉🎟🎫
@@chrisboyslimuk5186 thats great and to think a lot of the time it was media that span the wheels between the fights of these genres.
@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh most certainly yes. I lived near Skegness when I was much younger and knew plenty of mods , rockers and all types. I did witness the media winding things up, when mostly the media were told to leave them alone. Of course some fights broke out in pubs from time to time, but that was just pubs for you and nothing to do with rivalry between mods and rockers. I was happy to be out and about and on the beaches , I never really felt uneasy or threatened- unless I spilt my pint on someone lol.
@@chrisboyslimuk5186 I use to get in loads of fights with casuals/ football hooligans when I was younger I got sick of them all ways starting 😂😂😂
@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh God yes I used to watch Northern football clubs like Leeds United and Manchester United with my brother and there was always fighting , as there was with Southern clubs too. You can tell when a casual or a football hooligan wants to pick a fight. Both me and my brother lived in Leedds for a while so we watched Leeds United, but it did get dangerous most of the time. That was a long time ago and things have improved to a certain degree these days.
Awesome documentary, the interviews with the original crews really made it.
A million miles between then and now. 😔☘️
I was more of an 80's teen mod but liked the Rocker Music as well. Anyone born in the 70's will remember Suggs, Baggy Trousers and Madness. My late Uncle was a Vespa Driving Mod in the 60's with Desert Boots according to my late Aunt. They were both in there 20's then. My Dad was part Mod with an MG Magnette Car two Tone Paint White Wall Tyres, Chelsea Boots, Suede Jacket and Narrow suits a bit like the Saint Syle. My Mom was Sofia Loren Style high Cheek Bones, Black Hair, Olive Skin and Smart Dresses, Kitten Heels, Small Behive like my smaller Aunt who was in to Soul. All loved the 60's era and the Clubs and Dance, Coffee Bars. My late uncle was always in his suit as far as I can remember. My other Uncle was an Etype Jag Driving Mod who frequented City Night Life and was Friends with Lance Percival who he Gambled with in the 60's. He had that life style
Love the chic suits, boots, gloves and shades of the mod look.
I love some aspects of the Mods and rockers , the Rockers leathers and bikes were cool , quite like the snappy look of the Mods and the Mods had the best music over all, and were forward looking and of the time , bang on it.
Edinburgh Mods 1979.. pre- Quadrophenia..dancing and getting barred from Tiffanys nightclub in Stockbridge. Still keeping on at 60yrs old!
GOOD FOR YOU MATE !!!
It scared the crap out of the establishment....who blew the trouble up out of all proportion... we just didn't want to be like our parents. We lived in a time of great change. I remember much of it with great fondness..
Good old Suggs, always liked the bloke. The 1960s was a great time to grow up in the UK, as far as the music and culture were concerned. Mods and Rockers were just a part of it, not dominant at all. Like Teddy Boys, a lot of people didn't know any Mods and Rockers. And of course London was the epicentre of it all. Times change, and it's incredible how things and places change beyond all recognition.
my farther was a rocker he told me that he only wore a crash helmet to keep his ear's warm in the winter he rode a triumph t 120
@MusicalElitist1
Shame you are a twat
IM NEARLY 76 AND I WAS A ROCKER MY FIRST EVER GIRLFRIEND IN 1965 WAS A MOD WE MARRIED IN 1996 TILL SHE DIED IN 2013.
I've always been a biker/rocker. In the late '70s '80s, there was that rivalry with the Mod scooter boys. Not any more. I go out of my way to talk to them when on a ride out. They're so knowledgeable about their scooters. Something that bikers tend not to be anymore
Well done Suggs. I just missed out on the Mod and Rocker era by about 10 years. But I think they were great. I like both the Mods and the Rockers. But I like the Mods more.
We had the same thing in LA circa 1980's new wavers vs punkers.
My Mum was a mod from up north, Oldham, she always says it was different up here than the south. She's never been a fan of the Quadrophenia film for that reason.
I agree l was a Northampton Mod, and many Mods in Northampton were not fans of Quadrophenia and did not talk about the movie.
Old Sugsy's lookin' good.
Madness was a fun mental lot.
He was the perfect frontman for that.
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@@theneurochemist5267 true bro
By the 1970s bikers were riding Suzuki twins and Kawasaki triples and listening to soul music.
I was too young, but my siblings were old enough to wear the fashions, as I was younger by 8 years. All were Mods!
I remember 1 brother used to back-comb the back of the top of his hair!
It's a way of life 🛵 ❤
I like the rocker girl at 15:45 doing the reverse cowgirl on the bike......she was cute...
Pete Townshend was eventually exhausted by Mod. Even though The Who were the top band in the country as their sort of representatives or ambassadors, if you will, he just couldn't keep up. He said every week there was a new rule that had to be followed. Weird things like a shirt collar had to be a certain cut one week and was totally unfashionable the next. Measurements and colors came and went. Drove him crazy trying to keep up with the latest trends. It's all in Quadrophenia:
" I've had enough of dance halls
I've had enough of pills
I've had enough of street fights
I've seen my share of kills
I'm finished with the fashion
And acting like I'm tough
I'm bored with hate and passion
I've had enough of trying to love"
Rockers!
great memories
I love the Harrington jackets and Fred Perry polo shirts. Watching from London.
You’re only talking about the 80’s New Wave Revival and it’s caricature : very reducing and limited vision ... "Harrington" jackets are in fact windbreakers mostly first worn by American Collegiates like Rodney Harrington, the character played by Ryan O’Neal in US TV Sitcom "Peyton Place" (in truth, "Harrington” is a very recent clothing label deposited by French manufacturers to exploit the trend, never such brand existed before! ) and the original casual wear was created by English clothing brand, Barracuta, in the 1930’s which was in turn massively imported in the 1940’s by American Brooks Brothers... Most mods didn’t even wear Fred Perry’s, they had French, Italian or German polo shirts with long pointy lapels, often zipped-up!
@@AstroMockerSelector Peyton Place was a soap opera, not a sitcom. Harington jackets and Fred Perry polo shirts were part of the Mod Revival at the tail-end of the 70's. There was no such thing as an "80's New Wave Revival" back then. I guess you're referring to 90's Brit-Pop.
@@crapple009 Thank you gor your lecture, but I know all that already! Saying Peyton Place is a Soap Opera not a Sitcom is like saying Soul doesn’t come from R&B, two sides of a same coin. As for New wave not being from the 1980’s, you’re trippin’ : New Wave emerged at the tail end of Punk late ‘78/79 just like the mod revival and I was referring to mods from that New Wave period, the first revival in many ways as important as the original wave from ‘59/65. Up to when a French brand called themselves "Harrington" manufacturing that design of windbreakers who registered trademark in the early 00’s, there was no really such thing as Harrington jackets and the name referred to the College jacket Ryan O’Neal’s character in that Soap or Sitcom (whatever you wanna call it! ), Rodney Harrington was wearing; the Original design was made in the 1930’s by Barracuta, but there were thousands of brands reproducing that jacket style (Penney’s, Sears, Mc Greggor... you name it! ).
@@AstroMockerSelector Calling my reply a "lecture"? Seriously? Got it. But you wrote "New Wave Revival", not me. How could there be a new wave revival in the early 80's when new wave was happening then? It's impossible. Revivals always come after the fact, usually 15-20 years after the fact. Please re-read your original comment. And no, I'm not "trippin''"- I know the new wave (post punk) era started in 1978 and continued into the early 80's. If anything, there was a 60's revival in the early 80's (Mod/British Invasion). However, that was retro as opposed to the then-contemporary new wave scene. Sitcoms (short for 'situation-comedies) and soap operas are two totally different things: It's like saying Peyton Place ( a soap opera) is the same genre as Friends (a sitcom). As far as Harrington jackets are concerned, I agree with you on those. No need to get worked up or use exclamation points-my reply wasn't meant to be taken personal or as an attack. Just stating some facts in a calm manner, that's all.
@@crapple009 By "New Wave revival", I meant the mod revival of the New Wave era. And, Situation Comedies for me are like Soap Operas in the sense that both are sponsored and paid for by commercials (otherwise yes, you are right about the subtleties! ). Let’s just say I use English as a second language...
we hung about bowers café and the shamrock cafe Newcastle city centre, the 1 that is filmed on get carter when micheal cane was to chatting to the lass
The Woman at 7.29 was pretty .
Just here to hear Suggs. SKA rules.
My late mum was a rocker back in the 50s/60s and my dad was a mod I think that's why they never really got on lol I was born in the 70s mum used to tell me different things that happened back then, good video tho
I LOVE this documentary! I love Suggs! I love Mods! I love Rockers!! ;) Thank you for uploading this!! xo
Was you a mod or rocker? 🙂
@@MarkMahoney hey! well, both at different times!! Lol! I have ridden motorbikes and been into the rocker scene....also tho I love the mod scene and ride a scooter now ! ;) I was a punk rocker too! Aaah what fun times! Gotta keep having 'em! Love my scooty!!
@@LittleMissIssues you can't beat a woman that rides!😊 Are still riding now? ;) I missed the peak of the sub cultures but when younger I liked the rockers, as get older more liking the mods.. the who Paul Weller. Yes you gotta keep enjoying it, I bet you have a lot of stories to tell!!
@@MarkMahoney You know I do!! I lived in London in the mid to late 80s, some of the best times of my life were right there!! I have a new scooter that I ride all around the back roads where I live, on errands around here and there. I record some of the rides, too, and usually put some good riding soundtrack with it! ;) My dad got me my first motorbike - a little Indian - when I was 6 years old, he was an enduro/motocross racer! I raced a little when I was like 8,9 years, "powder puff races" lol, good times!!
@@LittleMissIssues that's great!! :) Yes I did tune in to see some of your riding vids! I noticed you are American! The 80s in London what a time to be their! I lived out in countryside about 30miles from London and though their was mods and rockers around they were far and far between, did you lived south London?
3:14 We was individualists, just like all the others...
Music was important, even with me! The Top 20 was recorded from the radio every week, so the newest records could be played!
Pocket money was usually spent on a 45 record.
My pride and joy was my orange and cream record player! Always got annoyed when I had to replace the needle as they were expensive!
I find it funny when a load of bikers turn up at pub with all the I'm hard attitude and then pull cherry and peach flavour vapes out lol
The days time erased...
Thanks Adam, This was a great show, He also done Here come the Teds & The punk explosion, Thanks for posting
Declan Mc Dermott I’ll have to see if I can get hold of that too.
I have them both if you want them mate
Declan Mc Dermott yes please if you wouldn’t mind!
souped up hairdryers with selfie mirror racks, smart clothes, and hidden flick knives. mods started the trouble, and guess who got the blame for it ? yeah right
Dressed right for a beach fight
“Rockers lived in the past. I was looking to the future”
Says the bloke who is STILL stuck in 1963!
I KNOW FUCKING CLASSIC
In need of a dentist as well...
I'm glad someone else is saying this - it's something that annoys me about the mod scene. I went to see a friend's band at a mod festival once & it was laughable. A sea of parkas and THAT haircut which was cool in the early 00's. Hardly looking to the future!
Wow
I would have hated growing up at that time. I could have never decided which camp to belong, I adore them both. The Mods are a bit poncy, but they just look so damn good. Two wheels are always better than four. Proper 60's rock is a cant fail. Rockers tended to be a bit more accepting than the mods. And who didnt like a good little dust up when youre young and full of spunk. Happy to have had both of their style and character influences.
I. Liked being a mod but loved the thril of ton ups down the arteiral on a bsa triumph what ever loved bikes, and my biker friends but loved my mod buddies too so had a sort of ducking n diving as loved the speed but being mod was me, greart times in Rayleigh Essex but from Brighton
Please upload Antiques Roadshow.
Mods>>>
Cute suggs❤❤❤
Back then, it was about the clothes. Today, it's about.....well, tattoos.
Suggs was obviously a mod in his day...his two-tone pocket square...rude boy come forward...madness was all that🕴️
Suggs was a skinhead, part of the 2nd wave that came back with the rise of the punk scene in 76/77. He was a bit of a naughty boy. I'll leave it at that.
@@speedking439 Suggs and the band despised their skinhead following.
@@speedking439 He's such a sell out middle class inoffensive tv type now. So fake.
@@darkcustomxxx7252 he grew up.
@@speedking439 Tell me more i know different
my dad got beat up in a pub for wearing a pink transparent shirt haha
37:38 - 38:17 Very fine line between working class mods and early skinheads. Two-tone encompassed both styles. Some of the second wave skins who were too young to remember the 1960s didn't exactly appreciate that though! Some didn't even know about it. In the mid 1980s I knew a punk guy who was into "Oi" music. He and his skinhead mates hated mods. When I told him that skinhead originally came from mod, he refused to believe me. He said "It had nothing to do with mods. Ask any skin."
Mods were Nancy boys. Skinheads were arseholes and they both had their roots in rocker music.
@@alfsmith4936 nope. After crossing over from Modern Jazz, Mods were into R&B and blues to a degree, which along with gospel were the roots of Rock n Roll.
They are the boneheads that hated the mods,neo Nazis.Skinhead came out of mod when the hard mods shaved their hair off and they was known as skinhead
@@alfsmith4936 Re the music. That's not entirely true. The mods and the original skinheads were both into Jamaican and black American music, and the mods were also into British bands such as the Who, the Kinks and the (early) Rolling Stones. Later skinheads latched onto punk and called their version of it Oi. As far as I know, rockers were just into 1950s rock'n'roll (which is why they were seen as "old-fashioned" in the 1960s).
Soul music came from rythm'n'blues, and ska/reggae _partly_ came from rhythm'n'blues. Rock'n'roll also came from rhythm'n'blues, as did punk if you trace it back far enough, but soul and ska/reggae didn't come from rock'n'roll.
@@rld8163 Exactly..
Its a pity they didnt get a presenter who was actually there, Suggs was in nappies. I was there and the interviews were good, but supposition by programme makers is not. 🇬🇧
What a time to be alive. Kids now on their ipads and iphones. Jeez.
Another miserated old fart complaining about young people today.
Fecking adverts ✌
OK,you covered the Mods,you covered the Rockers,but you forgot the Mockers
I was a Rocker, I miss it all so bad. I apologise for kicking scooters over, it was wrong.
But going a run out with your mates, all on big bikes, nice chick on the pillion, and music playing in my head (Free, Thin Lizzy, Stones). Isle of Man TT, fantastic time.
In the 'Quadraphenia' Film, the Mods were put "On the Run" by the Rockers. That is SO VERY INCORRECT, according to accounts of people there at the time.
THERE Was ALWAYS !!!!More MODS ???Cos The New Fashion Was MODS !!! Now Its ALL Gone GAY 😔😣Christ g
If you're gonna ride a REAL motorcycle, leather jackets and jeans make a lot more sense.
If you're going to ride a tuned up scooter leathers make more sense. Hence as rally going scooterboys we adopted the leather jacket in the mid 80s. Try looking cool in a suit after riding 200 miles in the winter months.
@@ScooterIndo Yep, makes perfect sense.
Now its a daft padded suit
We are the mods, we are the mods, we are, we are, we are the mods!
I just watched Quadrophenia, last night, for the first time! 😀
Looks they were also filming at Rikers (Boxhill).
.....And this is from someone born in the 70’s!!!!
I think Suggs was born in the 60's around 62 ?
Wow the parties in Essex never ended Rayleigh Southend Hadleigh Wickford. Anywhere and everywhere Rock, con keating hullbridge dave Colin, freddi Ellis near rayleigh Station loved watching rockers stripping their bikes cleaning.
Ancona, can't remember if
Was a cafe I went, or a club on the arterial I went to also
Why nothing on the Mod scene of the North late 60s
I am the face, she has to know me, I'm dressed up better than anyone within mile Whoa Yeaaah
the teds were the best dressed no doubt about it
Mods
Mods then casuals
😂😂😂
Isn't the narrators house in the middle of the street?
Oi, oi Scooterboy!
Great bikes, but what about English teeth? Nice docu, I really enjoyed it .
What about the teeth 😬 it seems that's all you yanks harp on about, you have far more toothless morons than us,
Who would want to ride a sewing machine,when you could have a real bike
i guess sugg wasn't around in the six he'd have been too young
34.15: I was a bit too young to be in either mod or rocker camps, but quite aware of it as I grew up in that time. TBH if either rockers or mods had any sense they would have taken the money offered by the press to have scuffles and then turned on the press and give them a good beating instead. The so-called mods rockers fights were about tribalism, nothing more. If nothing else it shows how much the press and media invent stories,to suit their agenda
I am going to be a mod with the Vespas the suits and everything everything included
But you won't BE a mod will you? You'll just be a clone like all those suits who wear denim and ride Harleys at the weekend.
At the time it wasn't just a lifestyle choice, it WAS your life.
@@keithhoughton4308 you are right I will never be a true mod . However I can take the ideas of a mod to hart like being open to new experiences with a style from my contemporaries. Can I do that?
@@xavi239 sorry mate. I jumped in a bit there. I was around in the 60's and I guess a bit of youth envy crept in!
@@xavi239 Absolutely you can. 60's originals, 70's revivalists, 80's modernists, 90's stylists... doesn't matter- If any one of them passed by in the street- "there goes a mod".
There will always be the snobbish " I was first" types in whatever things you choose to like ( I remember them referring to themselves as "individualists"- pfffftttt!). Thing is, there's no fun in a one person party, having a one person dance in their one person individualist bedroom.
If it's obsessive, cultish and if you have a like-minded circle - a clique, a tribe... If you have so much going on- clothes, music, mode of transport, how many buttons, what way to have your hair, how you eat, breathe, sleep, fart.... That's the "Way of life" that you'll constantly hear about.
Go be an ace Mod, make yourself some great memories for when you're old and boring.
Keep the whole thing alive ...keep the faith.
I might be wrong, but Beatles seemed to have created the mod look in late 1962 when they burst onto the scene, but prior to that were almost certainly rockers.
It was there before them (Ivy League fashion), but they put a twist on it and popularized it, that's for sure. Interesting that they started out really as rockers.
Mods were around in the late 50s in London s soho that is where it started
@@rogercooper4087 Modernist Jazz as opposed to Trad Jazz
I'm David Horton I'm still a mod from the 60d
So crammed full of commercials, can't watch this.
Use an Adblock.
ha ha landing on the moon i think not
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Can some one tell me the music at 0:57? Really bothering me
I think Its The BLUE FLAMES g
Plenty of street pizzas I bet.
Once a mod, always a mod. Don't dress like the 60s, dress for the time your in. Always have the modernist attitude
Individuals in uniforms ha ha.
I've been to the ace a few times and it's all old men in leather waistcoats trying to be 'different'.
THANK Fk I Was.a ROCKER !!!😁g
I prefered skinheads. As I was a skin, in 1971 and 1972. The mods were gone and the rockers were grown up.
Skinheads had to evolve into a bunch of racists
Being a Skin head might as well be a Rocker what wiv dem DM's and the Shaved Head lol. I never thought Skins heads and Mods were related only in them Cromby Coats and Narrow Collar Stripped Shirts. Basically Mods were normal Blokes as were Rockers but Skin Heads became something else unfortunatley
@@EH-bg1yo no skinhead is racist! Bone heads are!
@@EH-bg1yo skinheads where never racist you tool.
@@TheCitroenman1 screwdriver?
if you were mod which was more desireable vespa or lambretta?
@@stormytempest3907 were lambretta the more desireable of the two brands? i think the early lambrettas had a coolr look.
Lambrettas were unreliable, always breaking down. Vespas weren't. I had 2 Vespas.
Vespa wins as it's the most intelligent design. From an engineering perspective the vespa was much better.
Lambretta SX200!!!!! Vespa's looked pregnant.
The 60's were great but when I think of what made the 80's great, I think of Suggs and Madness. Fuck Michael Jackson, Prince, and Madonna, Madness was where it was at!!!
lincbond442
yes the 80's that and some of the other two tone bands and some of the Punk bands of the 80's were really good , most things that weren't main stream.
fuckin commercials on youtube, , every 2 minutes and 30 seconds...
@Fiach McHugh Ó Bruadair i'll give it a try, thanks
@Fiach McHugh Ó Bruadair ok, downloaded Brave Browser, it is as you say, way faster than google which does nothing but work on extracting all the data from your computer, fuk google.....DELETE.....I thank you
Carnaby st has changed was there 3 weeks ago.
It's a dump now. Nothing individual about it.
Rally
Gum
Coat
Bike
Coffee tea
captain
High
There is a moon??!!
Yeah! No mention of keith being a mod icon in this at all?
The real mods existed from mid 1962 till late 1964 . .(us born in the mid/ late 1940's.. after that it was melted down to a 60's pop' clothes' period .. then came the 'mids' . .copycats!!!
Y is sugs doing this not a mod ever ran a f skin head crew
no disrespect to the old boy mod , but thats wots wrong with the mod ,scooter scene now . full of old boys , to me the mod look ,looks great on youngsters, some 60 year old bald ,man , not so ...... im into the scene myself , got scooters and go to days , but i dont live in the past , concerning my look and scooters . this is only my opinion ............. and im very much live and let live ............
As a north american, this Mod thing is very foreign to me... despite I love Oasis and other britpop bands... I still couldn't get my head around what it means to be "Mod". If I had to compare Mod to something... seems they were like the rich kids and hipsters of the UK, and the Rockers... were the rockers.
The mods were usually the kids of soldiers from ww2
my mother´s friends were mods and they were neither rich nor hipsters
lol
THE Rockers CAME About After The WILD One !!!Was AT LAST !!!!!Shown To US THE UK ???? 7yrs After IT Came Out Over There ????*AS OUR LONDON Gov !!!SAID it Was TOO Rough !!!FK Our GOV 😔😂😂😂😂An Old Limey ROCKER 😁g
i see comedy mods everywhere..
William Mark you're the comedy mod pal
@@jopink7674 been there done it..100+ rallys..a was there from colwyn bay "82-the dark days of the late 80s/early 90s, when the scooter scene/mod scene was probably at its lowest ebb number wise..it was never a fashion for me,it WAS a way of life..1%
Ennit
@@williammark3210 you sound a real comedy mod lol
so are chavs the new mods.... if so something went very wrong .
Grahame Greene started all this crap. I prefer The Comedians. About to do some Monsieur Barso on the Hammond (organ sound of the Casio - so not quite a Hammond)
The kids are far too pc, serious and austerity riddled and tied down with rules to ever enjoy themselves as much as the mods and rockers did in the 60’s!!!!
Having started on scooters at 15 and moved onto various bikes from 25 to 38 I got back into scooters
bikers are all like grrr I'm a hard cos I got a bike which is quite pathetic really
The scooterists some people laugh some people think there cool but we dont really care what people think just like riding scooters.
You can't lean them round corners lol.
It's all a bit over the top and stereotypical. I was a mod with my Parker and scooter, but we never dressed outrageously. We weren't peacocks dressed from Carnaby street, that was just for the posers whe represented nobody
Snig boys much better . .