Missed The Boat.. Z790 Tachyon X 😱

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  • čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 102

  • @MadClowdz
    @MadClowdz Před 7 měsíci +53

    $700 for a MB without a built-in IO shield is a travesty.

  • @abelgutierrez3603
    @abelgutierrez3603 Před 7 měsíci +17

    Damn Gigabyte, asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy. I believe when the Z690 Tachyon launched it was 400 and some change. Hard pass for me at that price point.

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Před 7 měsíci +1

      yeah z690 tachyon was much cheaper and went on sale all the time, same for the MSI unify x.

    • @petefckingnegwaski1060
      @petefckingnegwaski1060 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Given Gigabyte's snake-oil on their other "X" boards (crap QVLs and such) , I'm happy to say that Ive had a profoundly different experience where the "Z790 Tachyon X vs the Z790 non-X Tachyon" is concerned (As I have owned both). The "X" has been my daily driver -10 hours a day for just over a couple of weeks now. G.Skill's 2x16 8000 kit was XMP "Karhu stable" right out of the box with no tweaks what so ever (tested with 15 tabs up and multiple programs running) and now at 8200, its still rock solid in identical environments (as my "non X z790 Tachyon, and I mean identical Same CPU-Loop-PSU-Case...etc...etc.) The X is slightly more premium... PCIE reinforcements on the back of the board (x16/5.0 slot) as where the last gen did not. They must have gotten something right because my last "non X" Tachyon's XMPs were wonky as hell. In short, I have found significant bandwidth increases with the "X" pound for pound (vs the non X/first Gen z790 Tachyon) running identical CPUs and Identical sticks.
      Per your statement "asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy"... I agree, but it was worth every penny in my case.
      ...And spoken kindly, I'm not selling anything, nor is this an attempted slap at Jufes (I'm sure hes forgotten more than I will ever know in this arena) .... I'm just very passionate about the things I throw myself into. I as a day trader and a gamer, I spend a LOT of time on my rig and it has to be Top-Notch (my sh*ts pretty nice).
      ...Just sharing my personal experience regarding the topic at hand.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@petefckingnegwaski1060 as someone who has a z790 Master which turned into the X variant because I was still in return to Amazon timeframe and they dropped X down to withint $15 of the non-X, the Master X is also better and more... refined? than the non-x Master.
      Most of their non-X z790 lineup feels somewhat beta or at least release candidate vs the X versions.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Před 6 měsíci

      That said, the power delivered on their Pro X's is a crime (z690 Pro/Ultra were much better, maybe too much vs z690 Master). But i mean, the Pro's now ahve 8x8? I guess they wanted to sell more Masters this gen! kek

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video to start the new year let's gooooo!

  • @riosecco4142
    @riosecco4142 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Haha, whenever you drop a video, I instantly stop whatever I am doing and watch!

  • @J_Leish
    @J_Leish Před 7 měsíci +6

    This board makes the asrock nova look even better!

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Před 7 měsíci

      i disagree the tachyon isn't as cheap as it was for z690 and also went on sale frequently true but 4 dimm motherboards shouldn't be the standard anymore. when it comes to overclocking especially ram and just hitting 8000+ given your 13/14th gen CPUs memory controller can do it the nova isn't even in the same category as the tachyon

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 Před 6 měsíci

    Great review. I watch these to see but am still on Z690s updated BIOS in case I upgrade them at some point.

  • @themachine4008
    @themachine4008 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for what you do......keep up the good work!

  • @thaNZdon
    @thaNZdon Před 7 měsíci +8

    Looking forward to the absolute DESTRUCTION of anti consumer content coming this year to the fc channel. Rain down that fire Jufes!!

  • @gamester0123
    @gamester0123 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Your motherboard reviews are essential! If you say it’s good then I consider it or buy it. Nobody tests the motherboards like you do. If you do normal people boards you’ll have em sell out lol keep it up! Waiting on that gigabyte aorus elite z790 x WiFi7 refresh

  • @crregazzamerone
    @crregazzamerone Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you as always Jufes.

  • @weroliera
    @weroliera Před 7 měsíci

    Nice studio. Ggs

  • @runebdrim6733
    @runebdrim6733 Před 7 měsíci

    What are the benefits of cooler pch temperatures? Can we change whatever thermal pads or paste it has on the mb's?

  • @abzaman77
    @abzaman77 Před 7 měsíci +1

    any links to Karhu memory test download? tia

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Před 7 měsíci +1

    3:16 “and it looks like ass” got me 😏😅😂🤣😅😂🤣!

  • @christopherherbert8062
    @christopherherbert8062 Před 7 měsíci

    Does the AV1 on the Encore make it better for single PC streaming?

  • @mitsuhh
    @mitsuhh Před 7 měsíci

    Will you be getting any of the Nvidia 40 supers?

  • @itraumatik6550
    @itraumatik6550 Před 7 měsíci

    Yep i couldnt beleive the PCH temp on my gigabyte also. My z790 hero was hitting 72c.

  • @koford
    @koford Před 7 měsíci

    good review

  • @JXDNL050
    @JXDNL050 Před 7 měsíci

    just clicked this one exited to watch hopefully ill know if it can compete or not. we shall see

  • @EzBreezy750
    @EzBreezy750 Před 7 měsíci

    Can we get a Jufes bloopers reel one day 😂

  • @_kardus
    @_kardus Před 7 měsíci

    Been out of the scene for a while. What are the best 2 dimm/atx boards available right now?

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture Před 7 měsíci +1

      the Apex. period. I'd argue it just is the best board for overclocking has been most generations at number 1 and if in not mistaken more oc world records on that board than any of the others (that said the MSI unfy x and tachyon are still excellent oc board the evga dark kingpin as well but evga is done making motherboards) for CPU and ram records which it holds both rn and its cheaper the PCB is better like no other z790 boards should exist. also and idk why but MSI hasn't released a unify x since 12th gen so unless you bought a dark when they were in stock the apex and tachyon are the only option's for 2 dimm enthusiast ocing dedicated boards.

  • @JeepBully
    @JeepBully Před 7 měsíci +3

    Do you even get any noticeable gains on a 600$ board over a 250$ one. Like how much difference are you gaining at 8000mt vs 6400mt running the same cas?

    • @Thirdeyestrappd
      @Thirdeyestrappd Před 7 měsíci

      12-20fps increase in 1% lows I assume for more memory intensive workloads that aren’t just gaming it’s much more noticeable

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 Před 7 měsíci

      If you overclock, the higher end boards give you a better overclock for a few hundred mhz, it just depends on your memory controller in your CPU and how good of a lotto you hit with your ram chip quality wise

    • @killerrf
      @killerrf Před 7 měsíci

      6400 well tuned primary/secondary/tertiary timings will be faster then 8000 basic xmp settings. Plus you can run that speed easy on z790 4 dimm boards.

  • @ericvalentine1497
    @ericvalentine1497 Před 7 měsíci

    Good Vid.

  • @Multimeter1
    @Multimeter1 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I cannot trust Gigabyte anymore, their cracking GPUs blaming customers, their exploding PSU, their crappy monitors, they are THE customer support IN MY opinion is also bad from past experience .... I would never buy their motherboard. Rather save up more for a quality Asus, EVGA board

    • @natalie2070
      @natalie2070 Před 7 měsíci

      Asus has building their stuff increasingly sketchy too

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 Před 7 měsíci

      @@natalie2070they are better now. Just a few screw ups before

    • @keepitsexyFM
      @keepitsexyFM Před 7 měsíci

      Trust me you don’t wanna go ASUS I’ve had nothing but lies and lies

  • @stefanhodgden
    @stefanhodgden Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for doing this. I almost bought this today

  • @BankboyFilthy
    @BankboyFilthy Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yea that intel arc showdown would be gold

  • @SundayFoggyNotions
    @SundayFoggyNotions Před 7 měsíci +1

    Does ANYONE KNOW IF 14900KS WILL BE "ALL CORE" 6GHZ? 6.2GHZ is gravy.
    I've been enjoying my 9900KS 5GHZ "ALL CORE" rock solid grandma proof out of the box for years now, looking to upgrade to the same.
    I use arctic freezer 420 AIO cooler and NEVER going back to 360 ever for life!

  • @BaBaNaNaBa
    @BaBaNaNaBa Před 7 měsíci

    gigabyte the old 4060 ti?

  • @maag78
    @maag78 Před 7 měsíci

    I would love to see the a380 used like that.

  • @okerac8344
    @okerac8344 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You never mentioned, does it have the latest bios?

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yep

    • @okerac8344
      @okerac8344 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@FrameChasers I was thinking since the Apex encore doesn’t have an integrated GPU can you get an A380 and combine it with a 4090 for the benefit of quick sync in gaming?
      I was thinking about getting the tachyon.
      But now may get the apex. If I can add quick sync.
      How would you set that up?

  • @johnnyevolution3829
    @johnnyevolution3829 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's too expensive. Looking forward to the review of the Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX.

  • @3889011
    @3889011 Před 7 měsíci +5

    My favorite tech channel. No BS only truth.

  • @itnews1202
    @itnews1202 Před 6 měsíci

    Tier from 1 month not working website

  • @SKHYJINX
    @SKHYJINX Před 7 měsíci

    I hope these videos perform okay, cmon people 💪😘

  • @laz7354
    @laz7354 Před 7 měsíci

    FrameChasers can *compete* !

  • @xdi1733
    @xdi1733 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I have two Aorus Master Z790 boards and I love them. Very full featured and awesome looking boards.

  • @AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz
    @AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz Před 7 měsíci

    Acpi error. Devcon acpi pci hid usb uefi

  • @onslaugh7pc
    @onslaugh7pc Před 7 měsíci

    Not kidding about the PCH temp my gaming rig is in a server chassis with delta fans and my PCH temp isn't as good as that

  • @FireTwo
    @FireTwo Před 7 měsíci

    new year new pc buildin croc's?

  • @z590iGeeeKReBoRN
    @z590iGeeeKReBoRN Před 7 měsíci

    What's a disquord, I don't have 12thgen + to test but on 11th, gear 1 is better for GAMING for Gamers, can you try maybe

  • @BossOGx
    @BossOGx Před 7 měsíci

    ya but WILL IT BLEND?

  • @jagenaudas8605
    @jagenaudas8605 Před 7 měsíci +1

    would you please straighten the cat picture? It drives me crazy

  • @ConteXCrown
    @ConteXCrown Před 7 měsíci

    i like how u talk its like u took to much preworkout or sm

  • @theodanielwollff
    @theodanielwollff Před 7 měsíci

    13th and 14th gen use the same voltages :)

  • @shanebrownlee69
    @shanebrownlee69 Před 6 měsíci

    I attempted to subscribe to get Discord access this morning and was prompted with an uncooperative "PayPal is being a dick" message. Are subs still possible via your website?

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 6 měsíci

      What was the actual PayPal message? haha

    • @shanebrownlee69
      @shanebrownlee69 Před 6 měsíci

      @@FrameChasers "Things don't appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later."
      Edit: Logged in fine separately on browser and mobile, no issues there. Seems there's some sort of technical issue between the website and PayPal.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 6 měsíci

      Interesting which option did you try to sub? Il check to see if it’s broken, thanks for the help

    • @shanebrownlee69
      @shanebrownlee69 Před 6 měsíci

      @@FrameChasers tried tier 2 monthly. I'll try again when I wake up tonight. Thanks for the replies.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Your right it’s broken for me too, I will regenerate the button when I get back to my hotel room, thanks man

  • @wevsky
    @wevsky Před 7 měsíci

    why would anyone want 8000xmp cl38 ?

  • @subgx0079
    @subgx0079 Před 7 měsíci

    Tachyon X already has X7o bios.

  • @recapturedcountry
    @recapturedcountry Před 7 měsíci

    lets' go

  • @6r3ys0n
    @6r3ys0n Před 7 měsíci

    And to think I was holding out for this board... MFs. Thanks as always Jufes

  • @brandonprenger8186
    @brandonprenger8186 Před 7 měsíci

    One day I'll compete. Until then my 13900k MSI z690-a pro with ddr4-4000 will have to do.

  • @terminator9099
    @terminator9099 Před 7 měsíci

    the only NA channel I trust about hardware

  • @zerzes
    @zerzes Před 7 měsíci +1

    Aorus is like Apple. Here's the same product, but its named a bigger number.

  • @hamslice839
    @hamslice839 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Thanks to the supporters and most importantly Jufes for the incredible content.

  • @devent5181
    @devent5181 Před 7 měsíci

    You should review the Asrock Livemixer z790

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 7 měsíci

      I’m good

    • @MadMexism
      @MadMexism Před 7 měsíci

      If this $700 motherboard cant compete, you think this guys gonna review one thats $300?

    • @devent5181
      @devent5181 Před 7 měsíci

      @@MadMexism trying to fire shots when you dont have common sense. if a 300 board can do it why spend 700.... wow your so smart

    • @MadMexism
      @MadMexism Před 7 měsíci

      @@devent5181 not firing shots at all. Just saying this guy only does top tier products. $300 boards can be reviewed on other mainstream channels. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @HarkaranSinghBindra
    @HarkaranSinghBindra Před 7 měsíci

    Adding an ARC GPU alongside a 4090 is not going to give you what the iGPU will give. Remember the PCIE lanes are limited.

  • @zachhayes4954
    @zachhayes4954 Před 7 měsíci

    SEO as an ex JarJar

  • @unitybeing777
    @unitybeing777 Před 7 měsíci

    You rocking it, you killing it, you owning, you pwning it, you are great.

  • @reloadingdontshoot1
    @reloadingdontshoot1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Damn, that's a massive letdown. Was hyped for this board. Now I'd give it a hard pass

  • @metromelvin
    @metromelvin Před 7 měsíci

  • @PiPoLiNiO_
    @PiPoLiNiO_ Před 7 měsíci

    Hi. I love your complaining about companies and ddr5. I have already processed 7 pieces of 14900K + Apex Encore, Dark Hero and 2 pieces of Aorus Master X. What irritates me is that you don't show the voltages for 7800 and 8000 when it's already working stably. Could you add the voltages from this Gigabyte to all under 7800 or 8000?

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've got the apex encore. im sure if you run 2 graphics cards, they go to 8x from 16

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  Před 7 měsíci

      The 4x slot

    • @toonnut1
      @toonnut1 Před 7 měsíci

      @FrameChasers oh I thought you said the bottom slot no problem thanks

  • @l.u.k.e.c.r.e.n
    @l.u.k.e.c.r.e.n Před 7 měsíci

    surprise surprise, another motherboard most people won’t even dream of spending the money on garnering exactly zero benefits over much cheaper options…

  • @tony_bauer
    @tony_bauer Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not a fan of Gigabyte at all. One of their PSU’s blew on me and just last week one of their 4090’s went bad. I’m done with them.

  • @TronTonics
    @TronTonics Před 7 měsíci

    How to they go from a nice Master board to this ugly thing smh.

  • @subramaniamchandrasekar1397
    @subramaniamchandrasekar1397 Před 7 měsíci

    "Happy new year boys".. So you don't expect grown people would watch your channel?

  • @lordace8795
    @lordace8795 Před 7 měsíci

    667th like

  • @YTMS879
    @YTMS879 Před 7 měsíci

    gigabyte always screws me with memory

  • @savobaus3491
    @savobaus3491 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Gigabyte is ass