Here’s The Luxury EV SUV You should Buy! Tesla Model X vs BMW iX vs Audi e-tron
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2022
- Kyle takes you on a tour of three of the most popular electric luxury SUVs! He takes you on a tour of each car and then goes for a drive in each as he shares his thoughts on which to purchase.
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IX is the king!
LOL, 'Ive parked the BMW so you don't have to look at the front of it'. Nice one Kyle. You made me, nearly spill tea over my keyboard...😀😄
This made me chuckle too!
I actually like the grill on the BMW..
Looking forward to them including the R1S (and hoping they work out some of Kyle’s complaints before then). The Rivian interior looks and feels amazing!
Tbh the R1S would be the winner if included. But given these 3 I would take the BMW.
I see what you did there…got the beaver front of the IX 50 facing away😂. Despite all the flack this car receives for its design I absolutely love mine.
Have been driving etron for 2 years now. Lovely car. Low efficiency is fine for my lifestyle. The other two cars are significantly more expensive. When I test drove them, MX didn't feel special. iX was awesome. I like the styling too but it is too big for my needs. With that size I would like a third row
The model X will actually appreciate in value so it’s the best investment. The Audi doesn’t offer over air updates so your 2019 Etron will always be a 2029 technology EV. Audi will never have FSD but Tesla will. Can buy an Audi new today but Tesla is six months wait. Can’t get dedicated charging and have to suffer range anxiety but with Tesla you’re never more than 10 miles to fast charge on dedicated network. The list is endless. Why people buy other EVs is because they advertise. Only car company on the planet to not advertise? You guessed it!
@@Johntalkstesla > The model X will actually appreciate in value so it’s the best investment.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had one of the first 3,000 Model X’s made. A Tesla engineer once told me that the first 5,000 X’s were basically made by hand. Consequently, I never had any of the build quality or mechanical issues with the falcon wing doors. Sold it a couple of months ago for a Ford F-150 Lightning. I have nothing but great things to say about the X, though I think it took them several years to catch up to the quality of the ones they built by hand in the early deliveries.
Careful the Tesla purist fanboys don't wanna hear about that Lightning...
Built by hand typically doesn’t mean great quality control. Ask an Aston Martin owner
@@Crono454 They sign the engine covers so the owner knows who they should hunt down for the shitty QC
Did you pop up wing function the entire time or did they turn in into a fixed wing?
I’d love to hear about the Lightning. Only if it didn’t have ridiculous markups and being overpriced.
I had both a 19 and 21 e-tron and loved them both. There's nothing else as comfortable to get into and just relax on your drive. It's honestly the best car I've ever had to live with and it's any absolute beast in the snow.
I briefly had a model 3 performance and now have a GV60 performance and truthfully, the e-tron's shorter range didn't matter. I have a 280 mile round trip commute so no matter what, I need one charge to make it in any car.
How does the etron compare to the gv60?
We were shopping for a new car for my dad in 2019. He wanted the ultimate isolation hwy cruiser and the etron prestige would have been perfect - especially since he doesn’t drive long distances anymore. But at the time, we didn’t know anything about EVs (besides Tesla) so my dad ended up getting a fully loaded x5 w air suspension and acoustic windows, etc. he traded it in recently for an Ioniq 5 which he loves. But it’s a little too low for his aging knees. The etron would have been perfect. But it’s hard to justify paying msrp+ on the etron now considering we could Have gotten $20k discounts on the prestige back in 2019.
@@Wasabi9111 Like Kyle said, the e-tron is like driving a bank vault. It feels like a true luxury car and is honestly probably the most comfortable car I've ever had.
The GV60 has all of the same luxury features and is super quiet and well built, but for some reason you just don't get that same luxury feeling as in the e-tron. I think Savage Geese said it best, it's like someone described luxury to the GV60 designers but they never actually felt it. The GV60 is an amazing car, but the e-tron is just truly exceptional in the feeling of luxury and comfort it provides.
@@symawd Did you try the IX? I'm trying to decide between the IX, e-tron 55 sportback, Mach-e GT PE, EQC and EQE.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 No, it wasn't out at the time
I’m picking up my Model X in 2 weeks after waiting over a year. I’ve never been in a Model X. I currently have a 2022 Model Y and absolutely love it. Not sure which one I’m going to keep.
Would be nice to hear about your experience with the X after a year.
Helpful reviews, thanks!
I think Tesla Model X would be my pick if it was cheaper. …I think the price of the X will eventually come down but won’t for now since there is such a backlog.
yep especially if performance is a consideration as well. Hard to beat the long range on performance, near impossible to beat the plaid on performance for the price.
Price just came down a second time a couple days ago. Wonder how that will effect the used Model X market..
Instant smile as soon as you were in the IX says it all, just ordered mine in oxide to replace my Etron 55 black edition I bought new in 2020 40k trouble free miles, tried a Tesla I found it decent enough but not in same quality league as the German cars.
Awesome job! Appreciate the comparison and your honest assessments. Thanks!
Lift up that back shelf in the model X and you can fit 4 medium suitcase standing up and then layer duffle bags and backpack over top . My luggage fits in the frunk. We do lots of 5 person road-trips in our 6 seater model X.
Interesting review but you should do this round up again when the Mercedes EQS SUV is available for press reviews. Thanks Kyle.
About the e-tron’e regen, I think you can set the regen to a specific level and have it keep it there all the time by setting recuperation to manual mode
Really appreciate your journalism keep up the great work.
Great comparison quickie, thanks. I would love to see you do a charging video in a Tesla that challenges the Tesla network. By that I mean, drive the car off the main highways. Plan a route that has very few Tesla charge stations and see how you have to adapt to make it over those empty regions. For example: South on 285 out of Denver, charge at Poncha Springs then arrive in Durango and use the CCS adapter at one of 2 chargepoint fast charge stations. If you want to continue on to the Grand Canyon, you can't go through the Navajo Reservation on State 160 as there are no charge stations. There's a great Tesla station in Tusayan but getting there is sketchy. Anyway, see what it's like and drive safely.
Best description of Tesla vehicles I've ever heard: "Let's start with fart mode and work backwards". 🤣
When I saw the way the iX was parked 🤣
While you are in the Seattle area drive the south burbs. In the south burbs most of the traffic lights are vehicle sensing so you typically wait very little.
Thanks for the content. FYI, when viewing this in 4k (2160p60) the upper 2/3 of the frame seems a bit washed out (like there is a film on the lens or perhaps you are having a really bad air quality day in CO)
37:31 is it possible to disable active noise cancellation? it would be interesting to know how much of the quietness is due to software and how much is due to build quality!
I was wondering the same thing but I don’t think you could turn it off. I was disappointed the iX doesn’t have acoustic side windows like the x5. Although the iX was very quiet on my test drive, wo the acoustic windows, you could def hear more of the loud vehicles driving next to you.
Very informative video, thank you 👍
Thanks for sharing this video! I’m curious to see how the Cadillac Lyriq AWD will hold up against this competition… Range and charging abilities should put it in the middle of the pack, but value for money may make it the best luxury EV to recommend
The iX definitely has some design issues and quirks, but many of the issues you're specifically taking with the car have to do with it being the M60. Harsher suspension and harsher pedal feel are both M60 tuning issues that other reviewers have complained about. It has a lot of positives; the interior is super nice, the HUD is nice. The infotainment is solid, but could be improved further. However, I kind of take issue with 'settings location'. How often will an owner mess with the settings once they have it all setup? The mapping software could be better, but with Android Auto / Apple Carplay, I imagine it's fine. The steering wheel really depends on preferred hand placement. Some have said it's amazing, some say they don't like it. I do like that you can get multiple different paint, wheel, and interior color / fabric options for either free or for a low price. The blue fabric option looks amazing; even if you can't get ventilated seats with it.
The seats should have more bolstering and better thigh extension. Another odd oversight. There's no excuse for the hard to reach front cup holder location and I don't understand why they left that gap between the center console and front of the wheel well for things to roll between. That space is essentially unusable except as extra foot room or pet walkthrough. It was a missed opportunity where they could have added more storage, where they could have pushed the cup holders more forward and higher, or could have put in an extra glove box. Removing the reflective crystal controls is no longer an option due to BMW's new options package setup. Reflective stuff inside a car's interior is literally the dumbest blunder a car company can make. IMO, they should have gone with a high quality wooden knob and wooden seat controls... maybe a darker contrasting wood to what's on the wood panel. Now that would have been really nice. It would have added to the lounge cozy feel. The only option may be to wrap it.
The removal of the B&W system from the M50 is a major blunder, meant only to try and push people into the more expensive M60 trim; although I hear the standard system is fine. The rear storage could have been better, but the door hinge placement eats up some space, and the lack of side storage seems like a silly oversight. Door closing sound could definitely be better. The radiant heating in both front and back may be a game changer once this is tested in the winter.
While there are some obvious blunders and missed opportunities in the BMW, I still think it's the best value for money... at least until the refreshed e-tron gets here; which will supposedly see a huge jump in range. I guess we'll see how price is affected. The e-tron is probably the best daily driver, but its really been handcuffed its demand primarily due to its weak efficiency and sparse range.
Real quick... when you're talking about car ownership... it really is a culmination of little things that can determine how someone feels about the vehicle. This is why it was such a shame the amount of criticism Audi got for their e-tron when it first came out. At that time, the EV media made it all about range, and didn't consider any other specs on the vehicle before crapping all over it. You really should go more into livability differences. For daily driving, sound system is actually a huge deal. Handling. Navigating a parking lot or backing into a driveway / garage. Camera quality and usability in both day and night. Highway road noise. How does it handle bumps? How's the traction control in winter? Comfort getting in and out? Long term seat comfort? How well does it hold the lane on the highway and how easily can you pass? Preciseness of lane placement? How does the cruise control and/or ADAS system perform in various situations? How is cabin comfort in the winter? Some cars have cold spots in the foot well for example.
BTW, asking the buyers opinion of a guy who's channel name is "Tesla Flex", who owns a model X, and is probably a Tesla shareholder... ummm... I think it's a hard sell to say bias isn't gonna come into play. You personally own a Tesla, but you and Alyssa both own multiple vehicle brands, so I do think you have less bias on this front than a clear Tesla fan / investor / youtube content provider. Maybe instead of bringing along a Tesla person, you get some friends who have no skin in the game and don't currently own electric vehicles at all. Let them drive the vehicles, and let them say what they would spend their money on.
@@updlate4756 Good point beside on the Audi. I remember the e-tron going into development around the same time as BMW, atleast I think not massivly earier and that sounded strange. How is their car already finished when bmw like waited and waited with the release.
It was like AMG mercs in the old days, BMW fine tuned M-s atleast a year after the basic model was out, but the AMG-s were out the same day as basic promising to be just as good.
E-tron did have quality issues because of that I think. But maybe all are fixed.
The Rivian R1S is currently shipping to customers, I got mine over 2 weeks ago...
Is the e-Tron actually all that inefficient when you look at real-world data? My 2021 averages 2.8 mi/kWh in high-speed interstate cruising (~240 mi range) and as high as 3.6 mi/kWh in 30 mph stop-and-go traffic (~300 mi range). You have to know how to drive it and take advantage of true coasting with two induction motors by paying attention to terrain and flow of traffic and keep it in Dynamic mode for the lower ride height (10% efficiency advantage over Auto).
Agreed and similar experiences with mine. I often get a longer range with it than I did with my 2020 Model Y, which had a serious case of false advertising in terms of range.
I love when you do these tests - Which one should you buy? 👌👍
Just so people know usa and canada e-tron use use led matrix design lights and the digital matrix light are on chronos editon (usa only) or the sports back version (both) the usa approved the digital in 2021.
We have a 2019 Etron and love it.
So you’d buy the bmw ix with the flawed head rest thing instead of the x to test the flawed ccs charging network? Tesla has a ccs adapter you can test though doesn’t it? Any reason that wouldn’t work?
iX is among top seller in Norway. Actually as a package it s the best out of the three. E tron (2023) in the second place.
I live in Norway and am in the process of buying an IX 40, I worked out I don’t need the range of the 50, so long as I can drive to Trondheim and Lilliehamar from Molde I’m ok.
@@MasterChief37same 😀 how is the range on the 40 here? Doable?
What price and equipment did you get?
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 I went on a long trip today, started at 100%, drove 380km, 27% of the battery is remaining, it’s GOM says it has 80km of range left. If I’d kept going I guess I would get 450km, which is better than WLTP.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 the car I bought is 12 month old, but it was never used, it had only done 57km, I paid 699,000. The only option I would like which it doesn’t have it rear wheel steering.
I vote model X for SC network and the most storage for 6-7 passenger vehicle
We had a '2019 Prestige and traded it for a '21 Presitge. The little things that you point out to be so perfect is exactly my feeling about the eTron and makes it so hard to think about anyting else.
We have completed several long road trips sucessfully and CCS will get better shortly. So range will become less of a consideration. Wonder what the next eTron will be like.
Audi E-Tron facelift will have a lot more range due to a new-generation battery, more efficient motors with greater energy recuperation, and new electronics that work together to increase range by nearly 50%, going from 259 miles to 373 miles. It should be revealed before the end of this year.
How come you traded it in for a 2021?
@@Wasabi9111 There were still big discounts on the '21 so had the same payment for the newer car. There was nothing wrong with the '19 car.
did you get audi care? is there really no maintenance..... just a checkup every 2 years? how many miles did you have on the 2019? Thanks for your time
@@cjceeez9897 14K on the MY2019
You can definitely get the Bowers & Wilkens sound system in the iX 50 now.
“Quick” video at 55 minutes long??? I can’t imagine how much longer the in-depth video will be when it comes out 😂.
Great information nonetheless!
I was looking for this comment lol
Thanks, All! Great review!
100% an Audi guy, still driving my prehistoric ajgae-powered S-6 Premium sleigh which I still dearly love, but it's time. Time to jump into the future, and I must concur. This video made it an easy choice for me.
And thanks Elon, for saving the planet and freely and openly sharing your ground-breaking patents which revealed your genius for innovation and commercialization with other car companies, not to mention some less appreciative civilian space-Xers. It's reminiscent of our old soap box derby days where we were forced to play nice with each other. Look how quickly the other mfgrs have responded with quality production vehicles of their own.
The ix is a great vehicle. I didnt even bother to test drive the tesla but the ix felt the best compared to the mercs and the audi
Lol thank you Kyle for pointing the BMW iX's nose away from the camera. But I guess you can't hide the rear end either. Oh well.
Good review. I don’t think I would never select the Tesla because of cost and styling. The windshield comes up too high and would be a lousy experience driving if the sun was shining in my eyes continually. The Audi e-tron sounds like a nice care unless the suspension is too floating. I remember driving a Lincoln Town car with air suspension and the floating cycle started getting to my stomach. I actually like the looks of BMW iX 60. But the control knob area might drive me crazy and perhaps the steering wheel. I really have to drive a car before I buy. I don’t understand how people are buying Rivian’s and Ford Lightning without a test drive.
e-Tron suspension is not floating at all. Very taught, it feels like other MLBevo platform cars (Q7, Cayenne).
People complain many things about the model x, the windshield isn’t one of them.
@@nelauren right? I had to lol at that silly comment.
Really? What do u do when the sun is low and straight in your face?
It's winter and low sun is almost a daily issue here.
This guy, probably some kid or someone that’s very indecisive. I’m actually confused as to why I replied 😂
I love my Audi etron sportback but after test driving the ix50, it drove a lot nicer and acceleration was neck snapping quick compared to my etron. Then test drive the Tesla model x and felt that it still feels like a completely unique experience cause of the tech but I didn’t like the rattles and minor sounds it makes in the interior. I am looking forward to the lotus Eletre to come out that will be the best of all worlds if they can keep the price competitive.
very well done video your knowledge is very good over others
#1 Tesla
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#3 Audi
I like the IX design...
Do you have a review comparing rivian R1S and ionic 5 ?
Can’t stand the look of the IX
Hideous all the way around.
Minivan for road trip. Your favourite crossover for daily pain.
Enjoying your videos. These luxury branded cars are too pricey for an average buyer in either form - the EV or the ICE. I am glad you are going to start reviewing cars that most ordinary folk can actually afford.
I have the IX50. The front will grow on you after awhile 😂. The ride and drive is awesome
I am picking up an iX 50 this week in Dark Graphite - M Sport. Was blown away by the vehicle during an extended test drive.
I haven't even ordered mine yet and I already like it now
Will the Cadillac Lyriq be the most similar to the e-tron? But cheaper.
Ordered iX50, but delivery time is 1 year. Must be here mid-summer 2023.
A lot of the issues you mention with the iX are better with the 50. The suspension is more comfortable and the pedal is mapped less sporty.
Fantastic video. This channel is legit and Kyle you and I have the same view on cars. No reason to hate on brands/models that don’t scratch your itch… it’s more about taste and finding the car that’s right for your use case.
We're you doing the acceleration test in a residential area? I saw houses in the background. That is concerning.
Would you still choose a different vehicle over the Tesla Model X with the recent price drop?
Bang and Olufsen Sound system in the Audi
When will you review the EQS SUV?
No radar system on a 130000$ car is just insane
My Plaid X has radar but it's not used anymore. I'm on my second cross country >6k miles and I might drive 10 miles myself. Why do I need radar?
Do you even know what the purpose of Radar is? Do you have Radar-sense?
@@DescartesRenegade oh you are so wise!
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 my reply was aimed at Martin. I was implying that if he doesn't have radar sense, the car doesn't need it either. Eventually, with high enough resolution cameras and powerful enough processors, the human influence on driving will become obsolete
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 How can be you be positiv about that? You had radar, but now its no longer used. I think that just shows how much Tesla is able to do, even after you bought the car. No other manufacture would do that
I’ll pick Rivian R1S 😀
How can you seat so close to the steering wheel in MX?!!! Why do you hug it with your knees? 😀
52:18 you know the trick how to get the full depth? = increase the size by 2x3
since model x so cheaper or comparable to other SUV then model X is winner?
Audi is always five or six years behind the market in their eiectronics.
Model X all the way, that windshield is too special to give up
I’m really looking forward to you reviewing the Cadillac Lyriq. Jay Leno reviewed it on his show, and everything he really liked about it, is all the things you love about the e-Tron. The AWD version will sell for mid-$60k range and it has about 300 mile range.
Leather, good quality leather, wears like iron especially if you put leather dressing or saddle soap on it once a year. Unlike plastic imitations, it also does not burn. If you are ever in a crash, you may appreciate the slight extra cost of getting flammable plastics and upholstery out of the car.
I believed e-tron Prestige's audio system is B&O, not B&W like the iX
Well done!
The Etron is a best seller in EU countries! Talk about how different countries can value different things!
Wouldn’t the BMW be marked up? So same price as the X if not more?
I saved over 25k on my IX 50 vs the cost of a new Tesla X. Love my IX, however I agree with Kyle on the software. Tesla has the absolute best software and BMW could learn a lot from Tesla on that front.
Got ours at MSRP
What are the parameters to call a vehicle "SUV" ?
It seems like the BMW is the way to go!
Uh what is the year of these vehicles?
Mercedes electric 2022 SUV?
NOT AVAILABLE YET
EQB is on sale now.
EQS suv is in stock at the dealers near me.
@@tychang8669 EQC and EQB, EQA are already on road in Europe for sometime.
model x is now 80k- does this change your pick? etron most outdated, stuck in 2012.
You have had a Model X LR several times, and we still do not have a 1/4 time for this car?
How is that even possible!
I'm so glad that it's not fast... Hmm. U don't have to push the pedal hard.
Kyle didn’t show the space in the back of the X - that panel lifts up- there’s way more storage back there
Might get model X
Technology is evolving so quickly - you have to compare similar production years
e-Tron is great...except that long trip is almost impossible. Which is quite a caveat if you ask me for some people.
Now that you can get a Model X for $72k brand new, it’s the no-brainer.
Nice comparison. BMW gets the W for me. But perfer the Lyriq AWD over these.
Model X 140000$ ??? Without tax? Weird, in Europe with 20% tax, it is 105k. The Plaid is at this price of 140....
Exactly and plaid is the fastest suv in the world after all...
Review video. Present rates for model x and model s. Now 25,000$ less compared to corona prices
Thanks for the video. But really most people can't afford anything even close to these cars. Love them and what they bring.
How about Mercedes EQS Suv? I’m driving a Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo GTS 😉
good job.. can't wait to include R1S to this price range. MB EQS SU would be a good add on to this list. Model X really needs those 4680 batteries at $130k.
Actually I think rather then 4680, tesla really needs to bump up their luxury feeling in the seats, noise, and suspension.
I hate the front of the BMW and for that reason do not even consider it. The Tesla is a great car with a great charging system but here in USA it does take an exceptionally long time to get. I love the ride and inside of the E Tron. There are some 2019’s on the market at acceptable prices. It charges quickly but is very thirsty. Since I only take long trips once in awhile and most charging will be done at home my choice is the Audi.
my issue with the iX is that i'd rather just get an X5 and save some money for a better looking car with the same comfort. With the Model X it is one of the very few EVs with a usable third row.
X5 does not have the same comfort at all. The ride and quietness is far superior in the iX. Overtime you will pay for all that gas and the maintenance. The insurance is cheaper with the iX as well.
@@kkgolf5371 Well, I voted with my wallet. I actually had reserved an iX and this was when it still qualified for the $7,500 tax credit. In the end I felt that I was really paying $30k more for an iX over a X5. I would never get that back.
Also I hated that it lacked a frunk not necessarily that I need it but that it meant that it wasn't nearly as well engineered as EVs that have a frunk.
In the end I went with the Plaid X.
I have reservations for R1S and Lucid Air to replace my Y. Lucid for its efficiency and enormous rear leg room and R1S because it has an even better 3rd row but sacrificing efficiency.
I feel like the model Y could’ve also been on this list 🤷♂️ cheaper but very similar in size.
Hard drive train
The Y drives like a carry, very fast but not comparable in styling, luxury or things talked about in this video.
Having had the Model Y, and now driving an e-torn, and test driven an iX M50, the Y really doesn’t belong here. It’s simply not luxurious in any way, from interior materials, to the bumpy ride, to the lack of cooled or massage seats to the interior materials, it doesn’t compete in this league luxury wise.
I already checked and I decide to buy genesis gv60
Does’nt the E-tron have Bang & Olufsen sound system?? Not B&W…
Missing I Pace from your channel!
In Europe the Model X price has dropped a lot. IX50 has kept it's value the best.
Rivian R1S
How do you pay only $100 a year for the services on the Audi Etron they want to charge me $365 a year
First comment! Cool review, appreciate it. Also sorry we missed you at the fully charged live event in San Diego. Next year.
You are not first
A quick precursor he said. So I look and it’s an hour long video 😂