A Perfect Villain In A Useless World | Magnifico
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Hey everyone, so Disney's Wish is out and though the movie was okay, i feel the only character that stood out was Magnifico. In that respect i want to give credit to where credit is due and xray what Disney did wrong with the movie and did right with the character Magnifico.
Hope y'all like the video
Love And Peace
#wish #disneywish #disney
John 15:12: My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - The Problem With Wish
2:22 - Lack of character motivation and goal
4:55 - Magnifico
7:51 - Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I really wish they redeemed magnifico, his fate in the end is WAYYYY too cruel, he becomes the man in the mirror, forever a faceless,emotionless slave when all he wants is to build a utopia where everyone can live for free without any worries in exchange of your wishes, the opening song contradicts everything about the conflict cus you can just see everyone is living the life to their fullest
Exactly, His intentions were pure at first, which should have warranted a much softer end. But he is a classic Disney villain and most classic Disney villains end up dying cruelly so maybe they wanted to replicate that without killing off the character.
@@zest2.5 yeah but disney forgot why those villains were punished severely, magnifico was trying to protect his own kingdom, and was corrupted by the book so its not really him entirely, this is just way too cruel for disney, a fate worse than death
Honestly, I’m kinda happy they stuck to their guns once they made him a full blown villain. If he was still of the same mindset as the beginning of the movie I’d agreed he should be redeemed, but the maniacal villain he became…
Wait he’s the mirror from Snow White??
Yes
I liked Magnifico at the individual points in the story. The beginning, he was a great man who genuinely had good intentions. I actually agreed with him on points even if I felt he went too far. Not every wish should be granted. Imagine if a person wished to become a freaking serial killer for crying out loud.
Then his villain song came along and…when did he become that vain? Granted, I like the song and understand his perspective, they do pester him for more at that time but still.
Then he is a full blown “crushing wishes for power” villain. I liked the performance, but how did it suddenly shoot up to this point.
Wish has a good premise and I can see a good movie behind this veil of…average, but the pacing shoots it down so much
Yeah that's the word "pacing". The premise is there but needs better execution
@@zest2.5 Yeah. It just feels like it shot from 0-55-200 instantly. We meet magnifico and he instantly reveals that he won’t grant the wish. He instantly acts like a prick to Asha. It would’ve been so much better if he kept his temper, and gaslit her.
When he and his wife first talk about the book, I genuinely feel their relationship. When AshaS grandfather, refuses to hear the wish you genuinely see why he feels that way, but the next scenes for both of them have them thinking the opposite?
I give this movie props for the premise and if Disney wanted to make this one less of a generic kids film and more of a pg13 movie they could’ve covered the dark side of granting peoples wishes.
@@keybladeduelist And even the reason why magnifico has that book in the first place, maybe something like he wanted a heir or so. There Is so much more to uncover in this movie just left to rot. Hopefully a sequel can revitalize it though I doubt it.
Yes, the pacing is completely off in this movie. I actually said out loud (to myself) "well, that was fast" when he had his little blow up at Asha for daring to question him. Like, he was saying she was quick for asking favors of him, and two seconds later he quickly revealed himself as the villain, like, dude, you just called the hero out for this 😣
I also think the video makes a good point about Asha having no flaws. I didn't connect with her, with her goals or motivations, because she switched so quickly from "I LOVE my town!" to "We need to overturn the system!".
Just off the top of my head, here's a different direction they could have taken that might have fixed some of the issues with the film: First, show Magnifico's backstory and how attaining his own wish backfired on his loved ones in the past, which explains why he now has the philosophy that people cannot be trusted to fulfill their own wishes, and they need someone wiser to pick the wishes that will benefit society. (In the film, the impression I got of his back story was "bad thing happened. he obtained power to stop bad things from happening. also dreams will only crush you so give up on your dreams now while you don't know what they are").
Second, show Magnifico and Asha's father as friends who hold differing philosophies but similar goals, who work together to build the kingdom as a utopia. Show or imply that as Magnifico started requiring citizens to give up their wishes to him, they had a falling out and Asha's father "mysteriously" and suddenly dies (implying Magnifico got rid of him for questioning his methods).
Have Asha already working as Magnifico's apprentice. Her dream is to learn magic and gain the ability to grant wishes like him, but that's the one thing he does not teach, promising that she will learn "someday". Because of her father's death and his close (seeming) friendship with the king, Asha views him as an uncle, as family.
Then show Asha's grandpa is turning 100, and Asha deciding for his birthday, she will grant his wish. She sneaks into Magnifico's lab to find his wish and tries to use her magic to grant it, but something goes wrong - maybe she accidentally corrupts the wish, or her grandpa's wish is impossible to grant and it breaks his heart. Either way, Magnifico finds out what she did and fixes things, but is shaken up by Asha's abilities, recognizing that even though she messed up, she did more than should have been possible without proper training. Maybe this is where he reveals to her that most wishes will never be granted, or that he never intended to teach her how to grant them, basically showing that under the guise of benevolence is a man who wants only control. They get in an argument where he reveals Asha's father had the same ideals and belief in the citizens that she does, but that they're not living in reality and only he knows what's best for everyone.
This is when Asha realizes that the wishes need to be released and returned, because they're living in a dictatorship where no one can choose for themselves what will give them purpose/fulfillment (they could show this throughout with some of Asha's friends, have her baker friend be someone whose wish was granted vs the other friends still waiting, feeling stuck in a limbo because they don't know what they want or need out of life). Magnifico uses forbidden magic in order to match Asha's raw power, revealing himself as the villain he is when he succumbs completely to power. The support of the kingdom helps Asha overcome the villain, wishes are freed, etc etc. Maybe the twist is that Asha's powers come from a wish her father made for her on a star, and the star has been inside her all along, if one wants to keep the whole wishes are stars thing.
I think Magnifico was always vain (in the name much? Who's named Magnifico as a baby? /shrugs) But I do wish (haha, get it?) they took just a little more time, one more scene or two to ramp up going from benevolent/slightly vain to full on malevolent, more than just one scene of people asking questions, or asking for 'more' ... we only get the exposition in the song without really seeing it, at least from his point of view.
At the end of the day, Magnifico had the drive to not be challenged or outdone, to keep his seat of power,... but for what reason? What could have drove him to be so ... paranoid? We don't get any information, not from his backstory, and the questions Asha asked him at the beginning was rather too quick to try to make a reasoned explanation.
Even his mean spirited nature after Asha challenged his logic didn't make sense, forcing her to watch as someone's wish was granted instead of her grandfather's, with the additional salt of rubbing it in her face that her grandfather's nor her mother's wish will ever be granted.
Also, plot hole: Asha hasn't turned 18 year, so at this point... would she just not give Magnifico her wish? Would she try to accomplish getting the wishes herself (no star included?) ... THAT would have made a much more interesting story, seeing Asha struggle to convince people, to strive to work towards her goals without the need of waiting on a lottery system.
THAT would have been a real challenge to Magnifico,... to show the people of Rosas that they didn't need him to grant their wishes, that if they worked together they could do it themselves.
Like Asha could have started small. The lady that wanted to make the finest dresses,... Asha helps her learn sowing and fashion, through trial and error makes a really beautiful dress that the Queen wants to wear, and thus get's the attention of everyone else.
I'm just saying. ... this would have felt more compelling, even in a montage format.. hell, Asha could have started by working with her seven sleepy, dopey, sneeze, bashful, happy, grumpy, and ... doc?... friends.
Magifico is actually the hero. Here's why.
1. You can't make someone fall in love with you.
2. You can't kill anyone.
3. You can't bring anyone back from the dead. It's not a pretty picture. AND I DON'T LIKE DOING IT!
As per genie.
That's a unique way to look at it... Though to call him a hero might be a bit much cause he does commit evil acts for his own gain later on. But I totally agree with your points, his intentions were pure at first.
I seen heelturns more convincing. To be fair. Wish 2: the rising dead would be a great sequel. Seeing a zombie apocalypse cause by how many bringing back the dead.
Lol this makes me wanna watch Aladdin (the animated original of course!)
@@nihilismistheonlyway4680 perfect movie.. limited characters though cliche, gives us enough time to fall in love with each character
He is the hero of the story, which is why the movie flopped
Wish seems unfinished, there are so many question marks they don't answer. Asha isn't a Bad character but the movie doesn't tell us anything about her, they hint on her dad passing, okay?. What is the significance of that they don't build on it. They show us an evil magnifico who at first was good what's the significance of giving him contradictions if that isn't built on. They have a lot of themes capable of giving a strong movie but they went the sell out route with a souless story that just at the end of the day comes of lackluster. Magnifico is a brilliant character but to me he still had a lot of holes that needed explaining to make he seem complete
Totally agree... I felt the dad passing plot could have been built on more. Than bombarding us with screentime of her friends who were barely influential to the story.
If they make a sequel, they can explain why Asha's father passed away
@@ninmarbob Hmm I guess so, though I really doubt they would
I’m so glad that even negative reviews of the movie they all still praise Magnifico because yeah he was definitely was a pretty good villain.
I believe that him developing a savior complex and narcissism was explained in his backstory of learning music following tragedy. But yeah, you're right in that it wasn't adequately fleshed out.
Ohh wow I didn't take note of that. Tnks for pointing it out
Magnifico was the most fun character in the movie, especially the most emotive and energetic.
What would have been nice is if Disney had done something with his hinted backstory,.. like maybe where Magnifico came from, the ruler of his people had started out with 'good intentions' that somehow got out of control and then ended up destroying his home and his family.
So Magnifico created a kingdom where he'd try to not 'repeat' these same mistakes,... but with not understanding how those 'good intentions' of the previous ruler became corrupted, is doomed to repeat.
And then Asha, having also 'good intentions' is on the same path of 'doomed to repeat' but she learns instead of the origins of Magnifico, the previous ruler, and what Magnifico himself is doing, and tries to show there's a better way, even her own goals and expectations being tempered or revisited.
There could still be no redemption for Magnifico, but it would have felt more satisfying to know his mindset a bit, and how Asha can learn and grow from that to not repeat the mistakes of her predecessors.
Brilliantly Said... But they didn't go that route unfortunately, so we can only wait for a sequel or wait for the next Disney movie expecting a better approach
I think there are a few things to critique in this movie but the villain is not one of them. so I'm happy to see a positive review of his character at the least. he stole every scene he was in and i think he's defnitley a step in the right direction as far as villains go. I actually really liked this film even with its flaws and honestly its the disney movie with the most potential for a good sequel. like they can flesh out so many characters and knowing how the book curse is said to effect him permanently they could totally bring magnifico back for a new story
I agree... Give credit to where is due. Magnifico is a good addition to the Disney villain lineup something we haven't said Abt any other villain close to a decade now..
What struck me odd with Magnifico was- He’s married but doesn’t have an heir. He literally doesn’t need an apprentice if he had a son or daughter to carry on his work. And the conflict with his wife being maybe she kept miscarrying, they tried to wish for a son or daughter but something went wrong and that’s why he kept the book of dark magic for safe keeping.
Ohh wow... Another plot point left unexplored, the reason for the book. Like what you said would have been such a unique way for us to understand him more and also to build more complexity with him. And even more stories to explore.
@@zest2.5 Which means the Queen doesn't stand up to her husband because he can easily replace her for not giving him an heir.
Yeah, and he seems to be the only married villain if you ignore the king and queen of hearts. Besides the king of hearts was not in Alice in wonderland live action movie
@@zest2.5 Wish is an okay movie for me. Not a meh, or a bad, just okay. I know most of the wishes he was storing are harmless, but that’s because the wish could be harmless to some people, but others would try twisting that reality to being “dangerous”, as Magnifico had seen before hand that one’s harmless dream would become a scary nightmare in the wrong hands; and when Magnifico turned bad, he weaponized a wish that one of Asha’s friends would be a knight in Magnifico’s court, just so he could arrest Asha for questioning his leadership. Does Magnifico have a right to not be questioned or given advice? No. Is Asha wrong to question his behavior over one mistake? Not really? Could there have been a compromise if Magnifico is willing to listen and have Asha as an advisor? Probably.
The thing about a benevolent king suddenly becoming a bad ruler, it’s not really a bad trope, but it is an old one. Not only does it remind me of Gaston from Beauty and the Beast (being considered the town hero before going a dark path), but it reminds me of the oldest story to have used this trope, and it’s about a Biblical hero who use to be a good person: King David (which is funny, because you left a biblical verse in the description). Anyone who saw VeggieTales would know that David once fought against Goliath to save his people, and even decapitated Goliath after the giant fell when hit in the forehead. What Veggietales failed to mention is that when he became king, he acted like a different person as time progressed. The trope in question is from this story: “David and Bathsheba”. His affair with Bathsheba (a Wife of Yuriah the Hittite, Yuriah being David’s best soldier) was what led to a major downfall after he sent Yuriah to a battle, where he would be killed by the enemy. David’s bastard child soon died after David was scolded by God. Though, to be fair, VeggieTales did tell this story, but it was bastardized as “King George and the Ducky”.
Point is, Magnifico *does* feel like the return of a Disney Villain; he’s not the one people wanted, but to me, he’s the Disney villain we needed. If anything, I’ll take “Magnifico abusing his power over a bad wish in his checkered past” over “Mirabel being given no punishment for vilifying Bruno” any day.
His fate was so cruel 😭
I am going to try and go through all the nonsense of this film, and show why the King is a Tragic Hero, Asha a mere *fool,* and the queen a monstrous hypocrite.
I. In the opening sequence, when Asha tells the story of the Kingdom (which will prove that she already knows that not all wishes are granted *before* her interview with the King), she says: '[The King] studied the magic of the world tirelessly and became a mighty sorcerer able to protect from harm or ill will, any wish given to him. And for the good and the worthy, even grant that wish.' The latter sentence implies that even though he accepts any one to live in his orderly Kingdom, he is the one who decides who is good and worthy. The former sentence proves that the only thing he promises to his people is to keep their wishes safe.
II. Asha is the immature and impulsive protagonist of the story. She wants to become King Magnifico's apprentice ONLY to ask him to grant her grandfather's wish. Before her interview with Magnifico, Gabo implies that she only wants to be the King's apprentice because apprentices and their families more often than not have their wishes granted sooner than other people; Asha does not rebuke him (cheers to our dishonest 'heroine'!). The stupid thing is, it is later stated that only the King is allowed to use magic in his Kingdom; for what does he need an apprentice, then? ('How do you enjoy your script, sir?' 'Half-baked, please.')
III. When she is cringely shocked by the King because he does not grant all wishes (which she already knew), she stupidly says, in order to move the plot forward even though it should have been expanded upon, that the people of Rosas are good, as if the audience should accept that unconvincing statement without proof from a dishonest and hypocritical seventeen year-old girl, who is going to also become a thief later on haha The people gave their wishes to the King willingly Asha, taking them away from him without his consent *is* stealing! My apologies, I digress, I know, it is not her fault if she is a plot device personified: it is that of the incompetent screenwriters.
IV. The King is more heroic than Asha and he has such an unfair fate in the end. He starts using 'forbidden magic' (what an inspired plot device!) in order to protect his Kingdom and he cannot be saved from this dark magic because... the 'evil' book says so! Lazy writing! The worst part is, when he ends up being trapped in the mirror, he seems to be his normal self again, and the queen (his wife!) does not care at all! Let us punish the man who wants to protect the Kingdom he worked hard to build because he *wished* to keep people safe! They introduce us to the idea that all living things are connected to one another, and they do not redeem the King? It was the perfect opportunity, Disney!
V. The queen is the real villain of the story, she switches sides instead of trying to save her husband and feels no compassion towards him. She clearly knew how her husband ran his Kingdom and did not mind one bit until Asha started being a threat to Magnifico. She is nothing but a hypocritical opportunist. She turned on him the second he made a bad choice. She is the most pathetic character ever written in a Disney film.
VI. The people of Magnifico are so 'empty' without their wishes that they live happily without them--except for Simon who is sooo tired because he gave it away. If they can live happily without their desires, it is all that matters. From the King's perspective (and I mostly agree with him) wishes are burdens. When they give their wish *willingly* to Magnifico, they feel exhausted at first because of the burden that has been lifted off their shoulders, but once they get used to being free of it, they can be truly happy, whether the King grants them their heart's desire or not. He gives them the ability to let go, which most people are not willing to do, as if true happiness could exist while holding on to things like an old miser hoards his money because he unknowingly lives in fear of poverty and cannot/will not loosen his grip on that fear, and therefore contributes to his own unhappiness. Magnifico gives his people true freedom *for free* and they still find cause to complain?
VII. When the star-full but heartless people of Rosas sing together, it unites their souls together, and allows them to defeat Magnifico. But most of them have given their wish to him, have they not? What do I mean by that? If wishes were that important, the persons who had given them away would never have been powerful enough to defeat the King. Which means that they already have all they need inside of them: wishes are a plus, not a necessity to happiness or strength.
VIII. In the end, Star who does not grant wishes, but can only make non-human living things talk (silly plot device again, I have lost count), gives Asha a wand, to use magic, which unlike the King, is given to her, whereas Magnifico worked hard to achieve that in order to protect people. But now, the simple-minded girl with no heart and not wits, who ruined the life of a *good* man and kept prattling on about the fact that people had to make their dreams come true by themselves, will become a fairy godmother who grants wishes! May the gods help whoever crosses her path.
The last thing I would like to point out is that people's wishes change over the course of their lives, this is why a wish or a desire cannot define some one, because if it it did and was truly a part of one's soul, it would be immutable. Wishes are a plus, not who a person truly is.
To conclude, the story has not been thought through, Disney has no respect for their audience. The dialogues are plot-driven, almost none of them allows the characters to be developed in a satisfying manner. But of one thing, I am sure: The queen is an awful character; she deserves the same sympathy she showed the King when he most needed her. The King is not a villain, Asha is not a hero. Magnifico is a Tragic Hero, Asha is nothing but ashen stardust.
Ohh my word you should have a CZcams channel or a blog. You were spot on with all ur points. This level of critical writing I'm incapable of it😅. Okay so I agree with almost everything except the part you say the queen is a villain. If we're going by definition she isn't in my opinion but by face value I'll say she was just the perfect plot device to push the revolution against magnifico. And also the ending scene rubbed me the wrong way, her behavior too. It was like you said, makes her look like an opportunist. Well that's it.
@@zest2.5Thank you so much for saying that :) I also really enjoyed your video. Your critical thinking is top-notch and I absolutely agree with what you said in it. As for the queen, you are right, she is just a plot device, but people wanted a horrible villain, so I gave them one haha
I was waiting for the evil queen the whole movie
@DylanM379 I agree with you, what you said is so true. You can seriously do a channel and talk about this. Because you were "wow" with what you said.
Also I have been watching videos from the Christian community of this movies flaws and dangerous messages from a Bible perspective from scripture text. Especially the songs give very off vibes, they try to make it so up beat or so much like let it go. But I can tell something didn't sound right. Plus I been having trouble trusting the star character. Plus the design of the star was defiantly a Mario star copycat lazy disney.
@@spookykatelyn2161 Thank you so much! I am very glad that some people agree with me. I think that the initial 'message' they hoped to deliver became the opposite. All the characters are flat except for the King, Asha is one of the worst (if not the worst 'heroine') I have every seen, and the queen is a preposterous plot device and a horrid character. They did not think anything through, it is so bad it is actually fascinating. 😂 And I agree with you, Star, every thing, was lazy in this film.
I wish that(no pun intended) King Magifico was a twist hero. And Asha not so adorkable and was stubborn and didn’t like to be reasoned with. The ending will be the kingdom going into chaos while the wishes become true. Then a book turns the page and erases King Magifico as a villain and writes Asha instead. Then the King fixes everything while Asha is in prison she becomes more bitter and stubborn. Then there’s a sequal we’re Asha is the bad guy. (I fixed your movie disney)
Except that Disney films needs a true evil villain with no plot twists or lack of villains like the past few Disney films with and without them so thankfully Wish has a classic Disney villain type in Magnifico to return to it's films and hopefully more in future. Feel free to disagree but understand me all the same please.
Like the idea but, I think that might be too complicated for a Disney movie and for the main demographic to grasp now adays.
they should've hired you ngl your version is way better
@@simonedeluna7397 Yeah i know right..
I don't think King Magnifico is a bad villain by any means.
I agree he isn't.... I don't get why people say he is. He delivers being evil perfectly while still being complex. In my opinion you can see genuine care on his side for his people but then someone who became absorbed by narcissism and embraced evil.
Magnifico should have had a better villain song than what we got.
I kinda liked it though. "This is the thanks I get" had a modern feel to it, and also gave me Moana vibes (Mahwi's ur welcome vibes). To be honest the song were pretty good, which is something I give them credit for. Except the musical piece with her friends, didn't like that one. But that's my opinion though
And this is the song i get?!
Such a potential bad guy wasted on
Yo zest... Appreciate your analysis but the main thing wrong with the movie is the simple fact that Disney doesn't listen to their audience. You can't pack useless characters and expect everyone to love them, if you don't craft them well. Strange world was a clear indication that their audience is not just the little kids demographic (even though it's their main demographic). We don't just eat up one dimensional characters. Yet they still didn't learn. Magnifico was okay though.
Magnifico was an indication that they listened. Stop being overly salty.
More or less... I think they did learn but they put less focus on certain parts of the story that made the movie not cohesive.
I'm not being salty. Just saying the truth
The problem is that they were trying to check off the boxes of a classic Disney villain that the audiences have been wanting, without actually knowing what made those villains classic and great in the first place.
They relied on villain tropes instead of developing a cohesive and interesting character.
They listened to the audience, but they didn't UNDERSTAND the audience..
@@rolarym_ brilliantly said. Totally agree. This year hasn't been great for the animation community 😅. The only stand out movie to me has to be spiderverse or hopefully Hayao Miyazaki boy and heron
Lil bro just wanted to protect his kingdom from getting destroyed by someone with dangerous wishes and then was imprisoned 💀
Exactly 😅
I'm enjoying seeing your channel grow my dude...
"I'm taking you with me" mindset
Was asha not aware of the chaos that would occur if everyone's wish was granted
I want a villain like Fagin or Sykes.
Hmm... You must be a lover of Oliver twist book and the Disney adaptation. Sykes is way more sadistic to be in this century Disney lineup for villains. He'll be too evil to put on screen. The man is what pure evil represents in reality.
Yep! Well, sort of for the book (I prefer the Oliver musical and Oliver & Company but overall good) Also, that's what was cool about Sykes. We don't see villains like him in animated movies anymore! The only villain we got was Death! We need more villains like Sykes! And maybe Fagin, I don't know. @@zest2.5
Magifico is defiantly going to be remembered fondly, I love to see him return in some form. Heck he has potential for Kingdom Hearts with an important role outside of Wish like Maleficent and Yan Sid were given.
Hmm that could be nice
Strange/ hot take, the story of wish would have been perfect for a stage musical provided they add a few more songs, other then that I really love this movie even though it's not a masterpiece it might be one of my new favorites, oh and this was a really good video
😅... Tnks for the compliment. Hands down it had a brilliant lineup of songs the only one I didn't like was the one she sung with her friends.
Not sure he's a great villain when his motivation changes for no reason. At first he wants to prevent dangers like what happen to his village then became evil out of nowhere. There was no transition. Also, he has nothing unique. Jafar has his beard and his cool snake staff, Hades has his fire hair and shadow cloak, Hook has his elegant outfit, Gaston have his muscles and his chin. What does Magnifico has? A cape and grey hair. Not very special compare to others villains 😐
He Is a unique blend of all the villains you called. And I'm down with it. He's not a great villain, he lacks a lot but that comes down to poor writing, we went from 0-100 without understanding his motivation to do so. But though most Disney villains are kinda like that so.
I agree he ain't special.. but is the best they've come up with In a while. In my opinion that's a step in the right direction.
I feel like Asha is just more of a villain than the main "villain" King Magnifico himself. How are you going to grant every wish to every people in the entire kingdom? That doesn't make any sense! *SPOILER*
Asha first wish to the star was to realize every wish for everyone and the star doesn't made this real because King Magnifico was keeping their dreams in his kingdom! And King Magnifico is defeated by a song? They don't know how to make heroins like Mulan who actually fought the main villain in the end? Even Simba fought against Scar! Tiana destroyed the necklace from Dr. Facilier and he was dragged by his "other side" friends! There was no fight, not even climax in Wish, just the entire kingdom singing and the main villain being defeated? The movie had a bad writting, no excuse for that.
Asha did NOT wish for all wishes to be magically granted. Her wish was that all people should be free to pursue their wishes on their own if they are not magically granted. She was perfectly fine with the idea that not all wishes are granted when we first meet her. She only started objecting when she found out that some wishes are not even considered because the King thinks that they may be dangerous on a Minority Report basis. Asha simply argued that those wishes should be returned, for example her grandfather should be allowed to try to inspire others with his music. Asha even says that if people try to do something dangerous with their wishes, they can be stopped (Magnifico is a magician so it is not a problem for him to stop evil-doers). And none of the wishes we saw was actually a bad one. Really this Asha-is-the-villain thing has to stop; people keep repeating it like parrots when many have of them have not even seen the movie. And I personally thought that the climax where the whole community unites and uses their connection to cosmic forces in order to defeat the villain was excellent. They did not defeat him with song; they defeated hi with pure magic and team spirit against his own dark magic. They could not fight the villain like Mulan or Simba did because he possesses magic and they don't. Some villains such as Eric, Aladdin and Philip did manage to fight magical beings but some had help from other magic entities and Magnifico could still not be a match for them. At that point, not only was he all powerful but he had magically enslaved and chained everyone and they could hardly move.Then again I speak as someone who grew up in the 80s and 90s. I still haven't seen most of the animated movies that came out after 2000 ( with relatively few exceptions) but Wish was much closer in spirit to 80s/90s movies for me.
PS. Princess and the Frog is one of the post 2000 movies that I have seen and in her case, like Anastasia or Aladdin, the villain was one way or another tied to a magical object. In Aladdin 2, you destroyed the lamp and you destroyed Jafar, in Anastasia once the reliquary was destroyed, demons came to colelct Rasputin and. Magnifico was not tied to any object. His spirit was absorbed into his own staff in the end but breaking the staff was not an option. The Queen and Asha's best friend tried to find ways to destroy his magic powers and they found that it was impossible. It helps if one watches the movie carefully befofre making such comparisons.
Kay totally get you. Me personally I work by definitions so Asha is not a villain. But the character is not well done and I'm sure you know it. She has one layer to her that runs the whole entire movie that's my issue. No emotion nothing, just be quirky and curious, with the most lazy backstory ever that doesn't do anything to push the story. Now as for the end of the movie where they sing, I saw that coming and it was super super cliche, sure it's a kids movie okay but let's try something new. The song with star and the animals was the connotation of the end o the movie. Were they realize everyone had it in them. super basic. Now this is me being critical though so yh, but taking the movie for what it is. It's alright.
@@NorthStar8211 All of the reasons you gave for Magnifico being unbeatable is just how bad the story is written. There's no climax that justify a powerful magicial being defeated by a song. There's no such a thing as "the whole community unites and uses their connection to cosmic forces in order to defeat the villain" it's rdiculous. In the end a powerful magician was defeated by the people of the kingdom singing, it doesn't make any sense. Now compare this by how Jafar was defeated, he wish to became a genie and now he must follow the rules of being one and was trapped in a magic lamp. Magnifico weakness should have been tied to the forbidden magic, but I'm asking too much for a current Disney movie to be decent in terms of story telling. You say this movie is close to the 80's and 90's movies? No. Just don't evern try it. There's no Disney magic, no catch songs, o good protagonist, no interesting story. The movie was bad and the box office show how bad it is...
@@moondoor9031 I said that it reminded me of 80s and 90s movies as a woman who is currently 41 years old and grew up on that stuff. I am not necessarily saying the quality is the same; it just gave me vibes. It is my opinion and I can say it just like you can say yours. I can disagree with you and you can disagree with me. None of what you say is a fact and what I say is not necessarily a fact either. Reviewers as mixed and I have read as many bad reviews as good ones. Even the score on imdb indicates that the movie is mediocre but not bad. Box office indication does not necessarily reflect quality; otherwise movies such as Pinocchio, Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty would have been considered bad movies. Of course this movie may not be in the same league but I found it pretty decent and the 80% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes by audiences indicates that average families with kids liked if and that is what it is all about. The same was said for Elemental when it was first released and it became a success after a few weeks in the international box office. Also, you seem to be one of those people who still don't get that the songs are not organic to the plot; it is just a medium of describing the events and the people are not actually singing as is the case with most songs in musicals. Pretty much like people who think that Simba, Timon and Pumba had been walking on that tree trunk all their lives. Just because you did not like the climax it does not mean that there was not one and just becauise you did not like the movie, it does not mean it is bad; just the kind of movie that would be more suitable for streaming and home releases or may have done better if it was released years ago. And yes, most 90s movies had great climaxes (Ursulla, Jafar, Scar,,Frollo) but this one was quite powerful too as the villain was defeated with magic, connection with the powers of the universe etc. You don't have to like it but this does not mean that nobody did. I personally found it better than the climax in Mulan where the villain was defeated in a cartoony way with fireworks (again, not saying that the movie was better than Mulan, even though Mulan was one of my least favourite 90s movies; just that i did not like it). I foresee Wish becoming more appreciated as time passes but that remains to be seen. In the meantime, learn to be civil and respect people's opinions just as others should respect yours. Remember that quality and appeal are very subjective.
He was a father figure stuk with a bonch of spoiled milinal who ultimately drove him made with there intitalment
Asha felt like more of a villain than king magnifico , the main reason she even when to confront the King was to Grant her family members their grandfather wish even if the wish is to vague, she was perfectly connected until the king refused to grant a near impossible wish. She went out of her way to slander the king even after getting the wish, which the king would rightfully be mad for. What dumb is that she reason he even turned into a "villain". I don't get why she was willing to forgive her "friend" who legit backstab her to get his wish but down right is going to impression your king because he the villain now. Even though he said that giving your dreams are optional, you don't have to worry about food, money or a place to live. Funny the advertisement says be careful what you wish for now that she the fairly godmother granting any wish no matter who it is,let see how long the kingdom will last.
What is at the end of the movie, people couldn’t have their wishes granted anymore. Like there wasn’t even a chance for them to be granted. The lesson could actually be, instead of wishing for things to be better, take steps for things to be better. Asha with learn that in order to get her grandfathers wish granted, she needs to give him the motivation to make music and perform it to others. He needs to do something, not just wait. I know that this is very similar to what Tianas goal was, but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. After all, it was argued for Tiana that she actually didn’t need to learn that lesson because she was already taking steps to get her restaurant. With Asha, she’s not taking steps to get her wish granted, or at least not when she makes the wish. The star was the thing that pushed her in the right direction. I think to get her wish, she needs to be that force for others if that’s truly what she wants.
Yhh that could have been an interesting route to explore.
Hey I just thought of something, what if we kept the villain but it actually was contained inside the book?
We could have the movie start with Asha telling us the myth behind Magnifico and why he's so loved by all beyond just granting wishes and being a silver fox.
The island could have been previously inhabited by a very powerful creature, which Magnifico defeated and only then built his kingdom.
Everything happens like it does and Asha selfishly wants all the wishes to be granted because she naively thinks everybody has good intentions. She learns about the king not granting all the wishes when he tells her and makes him strangely snap at her. She figures his attitude hides something and she decides to go look for answers where it all started. She breaks in and as she grows more and more desperate for answers, she wishes upon a start to help her. In comes the 'new plushy to have' and it directs her towards a secret passage inside Magnifico's lab. There she finds the book but is startled when she hears the king and queen walking down the hallway as Magnifico rambles on and on about Asha and how much he can't understand why she couldn't understand his logic as the queen looks at him in both understanding and confusion at how agitated and unsure he seems.
She escapes with both the book and wishes as the king and queen enter the lab with Magnifico having finally been soothed by his wife's encouraging words. That is until he notices his study is a mess and all the wishes have disappeared and that, more importantly, the secret passage to where the book had been kept has been left open. He rushes there in a panic, screaming and searching for the missing book but finds nothing.
He then starts acting like a maniac, snapping at his own wife, acting unhinged and quickly suspects Asha to being the culprit sending the whole lot of his guards to find her.
Meanwhile, Asha ends up in the forest and starts to look through all the wishes to find the one her grand father made only to find a very peculiar one. It shows the book she has found in the secret room but it seems to be talking. She decides to satisfy her curiosity first and presents the star with this wish granting the book the ability to speak.
It tells her that he is the true Magnifico and was trapped into this book by the powerful creature who used to live here previously. Asha doesn't quite believe it even though he snapped ONCE, the king had always been good to his people. The book then tells her to go and look at how the king acts, now that the wishes he used to have have been taken away from him and now that he 'the book' was 'roaming free'.
She decides not to listen (ha funny) and returns to granting the wishes. She's startled by a group of guards and flees from them until she stumbles back into the city and her friends and sees for herself how unhinged the King seems to have become.
She then starts to believe what the book told her and decides to listen to it. It tells her to go sneak back into the castle and trap Magnifico into the book. She asks for her friends' help and gets back into the castle where she's caught before ever managing to trap the king but manages to catch the queen's attention with her ravings. She pays her a visit in the dungeon and asks for the whole story. Asha sees an ally in her and tells her to ask the book. She reluctantly does so, thinking back to how much her beloved has changed in just one night and goes through with the plan unwittingly unleashing an evil force, which revels in the chaos brought by all wishes being granted all at once.
In this chaos, she only manages to save the book before dying at the hand of the spirit now inhabiting Magnifico's body as Asha flees with it to relative safety.
There starts a relationship between her and Magnifico who, for the very first time, relents in telling the full story of his arrival on the island and who the great evil is, but mostly, how he first managed to seal it long ago.
Damn u just created a fanfic here😅. It so well done. And I love the part that we get to understand more Abt Magnifico
I dont think Magnifico is a good villain because I dont think he even IS a villain. They made him with plenty of good motives to do what he does, plus nothing really is wrong with the kingdom until Asha just went like a spoiled brat to say stuff she was supposed to already know.
So much so they had to use a evil book to actually try to make him evil.
So yeah, I think Disney still is FAR from what they used to be with villains, even when they try they make the supposed villain better then the protagonist.
King Magnifico is Bob Iger, destroying dreams and wishes he views as PROBLEMATIC in his own eyes without giving any logical reasons why they're problematic, doing only what he wants best for himself for power and glory, even control.
More evidence of the drop in quality in Disney thanks to Bob Iger and his board of diverse yes folk.
So you think it's a corporate problem and not the individuals who work on the movies?
@@zest2.5 Well He puts the mandates on the type of people he wanted to work in this production, set the standards and so on. Employees are paid hands that do what they are paid to do. The writers and artists have to deal with the reality that people don't care for their entertainment, by not paying for it.
King Candy was already a better Magnifico:
Benevolent facade, prosperous kingdom where (most) of his subjects had happy lives... and the horror when main characters and viewers discover WHO he is, and WHAT he did to get into power. And from that point, everything goes downhill.
Best thing is, the contrast between the two indentities, Candy and Turbo, doesn't seem forced at all: a narcissist who can pull a nice act as long as he is getting his way.
Yeah, damn nice spot... King candy was a by far better version of Magnifico. Wreck it Ralph really explored him as a villain and that's what edges him over Magnifico. Magnifico has no base just a slight not so strong motivation
This company no longer represents Walt Disney values of art and storytelling, let it be known you tread in Iger Land, make it a woman, lame and gay, consume the eye goop and make sure you pay handsomely while doing it, also no bad reviews or your a big baddie.
Why is he a villain
Cause he does commit acts of evil even though it's at the end of the movie
@@zest2.5 gasp like what
Its a stupid bad movie very generic not at all what i hoped for Disney's 100. Villian was very flat . Every character was there to act their roles . This movie is about magic but there seems to be a void that's sucks magic out of this film 😂😂. As for animation they tried but in some scenes rendering fucked it up .
he's the only good part of the film, tbh
The entire premise of this video essay is flawed because Magnifico was a terrible villain.
The first half of the movie portrayed him as a man who grew up from nothing. Became a powerful magician through his own effort. Built a kingdom that people flocked to. Then granted wishes that would make the kingdom prosper. Even if his song made him out to be a narcissist, there was nothing evil about his deeds.
Forcing the writers to shoehorn in some nonsense in the 2nd half, to make this great man into a villain worthy of the most inhumane punishment allowed in a Disney movie.